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legendary
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Is it similar with Skype Betting before? but this time on telegram?
I believe so. A service where you tell other people to bet on your behalf quickly. But OP just went offline and no longer replies to any inquiry, I don't think it's worth your time to test it out even if you have some money to burn. If this kind of service is interesting to you just scroll around the sub-board for a bit or make a new thread asking for recommendations from reputable members to lower the chance of getting scammed.
newbie
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Is it similar with Skype Betting before? but this time on telegram?
hero member
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If you live in the UK (or allowed to gamble there) then JenningsBet (JoeJennings) allows you to bet via Telegram, they used to take only phone betting but added Telegram into the list.

They also have physical betting stores.

Just for comparison a few days ago when Trump was in BetFair with 1.40 then Ladbrokes had him for 1.33 and JenningsBet for 1.25 so the odds aren't always the best ones, but it seems like their business model works, so if anyone is looking into a similar operation try to "copy-paste" what they do.
Physical stores means guarantees. And there are some situations where it would be interesting to use betting agent, even with smaller odds.
But i don`t think that we see the same situation here. Just "give me your money, i have the best odds". I could believe in such things when was 10 years old i think. Or when i will be 80 years old probably.
legendary
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if you have a service to advertise you will be at least present to provide details and explain as much as you can so people can trust what you're offering.
if OP decide to "evaporate" isn't a good sign. Moreover if this service has not a ToS it's pretty clear that trust a complete stranger in telegram... this sound like the start of a big scam.... definitely avoid anything similar... pretty useless and with tons of serious risks.
legendary
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But there may be another goal - to advertise oneself, although such a topic is more of an anti-advertising than an advertisement.  On the other hand, anti-advertising is also information that is remembered.  Maybe this was his goal? 
By the way, if he starts speaking negatively about BTT users or about the forum itself on other sites, then this will also be like advertising.
Whether there is another purpose or not is, no longer important, the OP also does not appear again and replies to this thread.
If he wanted to explain something and reinforce that he had a legitimate business, then he would show up.

But he has already gotten negative Tag as a scammer, and yes now it is no longer important to discuss it.
And this is a warning for everyone to remain cautious in every various scammer mode.
sr. member
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If you live in the UK (or allowed to gamble there) then JenningsBet (JoeJennings) allows you to bet via Telegram, they used to take only phone betting but added Telegram into the list.

They also have physical betting stores.

Just for comparison a few days ago when Trump was in BetFair with 1.40 then Ladbrokes had him for 1.33 and JenningsBet for 1.25 so the odds aren't always the best ones, but it seems like their business model works, so if anyone is looking into a similar operation try to "copy-paste" what they do.
legendary
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Quote from: taufik123 link=topic=5502638.msg64339118#msg64339118 date=1721331154

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But there is also something negative for our forum itself.  What I mean is that OP may start speaking negatively about those forum users who wrote to him about their doubts about the integrity of his business (which was actually a logical thing to do).  And he can continue to say everywhere that the forum is a gathering of some too demanding people.  However, he was the first to position himself this way on the forum and he was wrong from the very beginning.
It's kind of dissatisfaction when he (OP) posts his business on this forum, but of course he is only playing victim because in fact he only posts his business without a good portfolio and proof of trust that his business is legal and has a lot of customers.
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Here the question always arises about the motives of what made the OP open a topic on our forum.  If he was simply hoping to find simpletons who send their money anywhere, then he was clearly mistaken. 
But there may be another goal - to advertise oneself, although such a topic is more of an anti-advertising than an advertisement.  On the other hand, anti-advertising is also information that is remembered.  Maybe this was his goal? 
By the way, if he starts speaking negatively about BTT users or about the forum itself on other sites, then this will also be like advertising.
hero member
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Hello to everyone at this forum. I want to introduce you to a sports betting service that I run with my 5 colleagues.

Why should you be trusted, do you have any reputation on this forum, can you imagine if everyone of us is doing same and we all claim to be trusted just like that, moreover, the use of an agent is a barrier serving as third party, what makes you think one cannot make use of the platform directly without going through an agent, scam and trust are most considered in this kind of your offer.
No one should trust any telegram deal, so regardless of his forum reputations, it still ball down to the fact that since this is a telegrams based service, everyone should be extremely careful, and look out for safety because the possibility of losing all or part of your deposits or even winning is high and there is slim chances of getting dispute resolved on telegram most especially because of the privacy policy of telegram.
Again what is not available also is the ability to have active support that will attend to you on telegram is low, since everyone on this platforms are all apps users who likely have different time schedule to run with and won't be available all the time to attend to issues, so there is alot to be considered about this platforms and their services.
hero member
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Hello to everyone at this forum. I want to introduce you to a sports betting service that I run with my 5 colleagues.

Why should you be trusted, do you have any reputation on this forum, can you imagine if everyone of us is doing same and we all claim to be trusted just like that, moreover, the use of an agent is a barrier serving as third party, what makes you think one cannot make use of the platform directly without going through an agent, scam and trust are most considered in this kind of your offer.
legendary
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Even if he agrees to use escrow, nobody is going to spend thousands of dollars just to try a service from some random guy on the internet. Btw, there seem to be new services/crypto projects based on Telegram nowadays, whether it's related to gambling or not.
It should be like that, who wants to hand over thousands of dollars just for a bet managed by someone else that even that can be done by themselves.

And for services or projects based on Telegram now it is indeed hype and there are many projects created, including gambling or other projects.
There are many bots provided for each project and these are easy to use.
The telegram-based project is on the TON network and of course directly integrated with the TON Telegram Wallet.



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But there is also something negative for our forum itself.  What I mean is that OP may start speaking negatively about those forum users who wrote to him about their doubts about the integrity of his business (which was actually a logical thing to do).  And he can continue to say everywhere that the forum is a gathering of some too demanding people.  However, he was the first to position himself this way on the forum and he was wrong from the very beginning.
It's kind of dissatisfaction when he (OP) posts his business on this forum, but of course he is only playing victim because in fact he only posts his business without a good portfolio and proof of trust that his business is legal and has a lot of customers.
hero member
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The stress it will take me to dash you my money as an agent is far higher than that which it will take me to deposit my money in a reputable casino. Well your services and whatever you intend to accomplish can only make sense for people from countries where gambling as well as cryptocurrency are banned not for my country where we have freedom to do both of them without confrontation from the authorities and no tax involved. Maybe that is why whatever you represent seem to me like an outright scam.
If gambling or cryptocurrencies are banned in your country, using "betting agent" is banned too. I don`t see any reason to work with unknown telegram user. It would be better to lose some money due to smaller odds, but be sure that your money is safe(if such words are possible to be used for gambling:) ).
legendary
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Well, of course it is.  However, I think that without some real and compelling evidence here on our forum, which is obviously a forum with smart, intelligent and respectable users, accusing someone of fraud simply based on your own considerations, but also, of course, communication experience is also not worth it. First we need to figure it out and such new users who pursue fraudulent goals will still be exposed and disappear from the forum.
Won't accuse anyone, but it is necessary to be careful with this kind of betting agent.
After all, are you going to give money to someone you really don't know and there is no clear portfolio about the business.


And as a betting agent who created this thread also has to prove that what he is offering is real and really about the betting agent business, not a scam and such.
Without any evidence and portfolio, it will only generate bad opinions and no one will use your services.
And here, it seems to me, there are two options for the development of events.  Either OP will disappear from the forum altogether, or he will begin to prove to us here that he is an honest and respectable agent who is looking for clients for his business in different ways.  In any case, the result will not bring him new clients, since it will not be possible to provide really serious guarantees simply by writing something in this topic. 

But there is also something negative for our forum itself.  What I mean is that OP may start speaking negatively about those forum users who wrote to him about their doubts about the integrity of his business (which was actually a logical thing to do).  And he can continue to say everywhere that the forum is a gathering of some too demanding people.  However, he was the first to position himself this way on the forum and he was wrong from the very beginning.
legendary
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And as a betting agent who created this thread also has to prove that what he is offering is real and really about the betting agent business, not a scam and such.
Without any evidence and portfolio, it will only generate bad opinions and no one will use your services.
It doesn't feel like OP intends to do that, judging from his posts and how he feels about the user on this forum. I don't think that's a good approach for a legitimate business that wants to gain new users, so who knows? Even if he agrees to use escrow, nobody is going to spend thousands of dollars just to try a service from some random guy on the internet. Btw, there seem to be new services/crypto projects based on Telegram nowadays, whether it's related to gambling or not.
legendary
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Well, of course it is.  However, I think that without some real and compelling evidence here on our forum, which is obviously a forum with smart, intelligent and respectable users, accusing someone of fraud simply based on your own considerations, but also, of course, communication experience is also not worth it. First we need to figure it out and such new users who pursue fraudulent goals will still be exposed and disappear from the forum.
Won't accuse anyone, but it is necessary to be careful with this kind of betting agent.
After all, are you going to give money to someone you really don't know and there is no clear portfolio about the business.


And as a betting agent who created this thread also has to prove that what he is offering is real and really about the betting agent business, not a scam and such.
Without any evidence and portfolio, it will only generate bad opinions and no one will use your services.
sr. member
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The stress it will take me to dash you my money as an agent is far higher than that which it will take me to deposit my money in a reputable casino. Well your services and whatever you intend to accomplish can only make sense for people from countries where gambling as well as cryptocurrency are banned not for my country where we have freedom to do both of them without confrontation from the authorities and no tax involved. Maybe that is why whatever you represent seem to me like an outright scam.
hero member
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First, they are carrying out such services on a platform that is very easy for them to lose access to. If their telegram account gets reported, it can be deleted, and they don't have any backup plans to keep up with their petronizers because I didn't see where they explain how they can continue further communication with their customers if, by chance, they get deleted from telegram. That's another red flag. 

I don't even see any gambler that cannot  stake their favorite games by themselves in the online casinos. It's nothing difficult to do. 
Yeah this is one thing I don't like about telegram because its vulnerability to lose access immediately being reported and I wouldn't encourage anyone to much deal on telegram especially that relates with money because it's easier to manipulate and change username and profile details without being tracked, I know these people can just be targeting a particular amount to accumulates from their victim after which they may decide to shut down and zoom.

Yea, that's right. When I started using Telegram, there were just some comments I would make in some groups, and before I knew it, I had been permanently restricted from sending messages to friends or to a group, which is very bad. It happened to me more than three times, and sometimes the account will just be permanently deleted. Sometimes happened recently to my telegram account. I saw a scammer online, so I decided to follow him up so that I could reveal his plot, but at some points, it seems he was aware that I was not his bait, so he stopped responding. Not just more than 1 hour after he stopped responding, my account was logged out. I tried to gain back access but was told I had been blocked. So bad. It seems the idiot reported my account multiple times with his crew. There was this time in 2022 that I wanted to buy a gadget on Telegram from a stranger. After price negotiations, I paid, waiting for him to send my stuff, but the next day I checked, our chat was wiped, and I couldn't even get his account again because such a username didn't exist again. So bad. 

Just saying all that for people to be careful with what they are doing out there, trusting those dudes. 
It has happened to me during my primary stage on the forum I never had much experience to follow up with the activities here and I felt everyone is so genuine that I can trust that much, after all discussion I noticed that all our discussion were deleted and username was changed even when I tried searching for him with the previous username i can't find him neither did I know him.
hero member
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I see sometimes such statements from cheaters. They try to attract players telling them that they such service only for serious gamblers/rich people/big investor/etc(depends on situation).
I don`t see any reason to believe the OP or ask him something in telegram. If he has some proves - he can post it, it he has nothing to interest members - i have nothing to ask him about.
Well, of course it is.  However, I think that without some real and compelling evidence here on our forum, which is obviously a forum with smart, intelligent and respectable users, accusing someone of fraud simply based on your own considerations, but also, of course, communication experience is also not worth it. First we need to figure it out and such new users who pursue fraudulent goals will still be exposed and disappear from the forum.
It costs money to prove that the OP is a cheater. I don`t ready to spent my money in such a way. May be he is honest betting agent, but anyway this thread means that he has to prove his words. Today it is normally, that we can`t trust anybody unknown in the internet. Using cryptocurrencies and telegram don`t increase trust level.
legendary
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But it seems to me that among the gamblers who write their observations in posts on our forum there are completely different players.  I think there are also those who can make very large bets in cryptocurrencies, since almost everyone here is well versed in cryptocurrency payments, and those who have been on the forum for a long time are probably not at all poor people from slums in remote areas of third world countries.  Such statements are perhaps not entirely appropriate and in general it is not clear why you should open an account and a topic on a specialized technology forum if you have no idea what and for what audience you are writing your information.  Still, you should study this first and then take some actions on the forum. 
Well, of course, without serious guarantees, not a single normal, sensible person will transfer money anywhere and to just anyone.
I see sometimes such statements from cheaters. They try to attract players telling them that they such service only for serious gamblers/rich people/big investor/etc(depends on situation).
I don`t see any reason to believe the OP or ask him something in telegram. If he has some proves - he can post it, it he has nothing to interest members - i have nothing to ask him about.
Well, of course it is.  However, I think that without some real and compelling evidence here on our forum, which is obviously a forum with smart, intelligent and respectable users, accusing someone of fraud simply based on your own considerations, but also, of course, communication experience is also not worth it. First we need to figure it out and such new users who pursue fraudulent goals will still be exposed and disappear from the forum.
hero member
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But it seems to me that among the gamblers who write their observations in posts on our forum there are completely different players.  I think there are also those who can make very large bets in cryptocurrencies, since almost everyone here is well versed in cryptocurrency payments, and those who have been on the forum for a long time are probably not at all poor people from slums in remote areas of third world countries.  Such statements are perhaps not entirely appropriate and in general it is not clear why you should open an account and a topic on a specialized technology forum if you have no idea what and for what audience you are writing your information.  Still, you should study this first and then take some actions on the forum. 
Well, of course, without serious guarantees, not a single normal, sensible person will transfer money anywhere and to just anyone.
I see sometimes such statements from cheaters. They try to attract players telling them that they such service only for serious gamblers/rich people/big investor/etc(depends on situation).
I don`t see any reason to believe the OP or ask him something in telegram. If he has some proves - he can post it, it he has nothing to interest members - i have nothing to ask him about.
legendary
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Hey! After posting this topic, we realized that vast majority of bitcointalk bettors are not exactly our target group, considering that 99% of them are bettors at a "low-level", with small stakes, and most of them have never even heard of betting agents. We are still looking for bettors who stake a few hundred dollars per bet at least. The average stake per bet that we stake for our customers is a few thousand dollars at the moment I would say, with the fact that we have clients who regularly stake four-digit amounts per bet.

We are not your target group to scam so you are having a hard time explaining, you did not mention the escrow in your thread, it's all about give me your money and I will bet it for you and monitor it for you, you think that people here at that gullible to fall into your trap, you don't even have a proof that can prove that what you offer is legit
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Regarding the escrow service, I can say that we are ready to use it if there is an customer that is interesting to us
You should use it in all your dealings because you have no reputation to talk about, you can easily run away with money this is easy for you.
But it seems to me that among the gamblers who write their observations in posts on our forum there are completely different players.  I think there are also those who can make very large bets in cryptocurrencies, since almost everyone here is well versed in cryptocurrency payments, and those who have been on the forum for a long time are probably not at all poor people from slums in remote areas of third world countries.  Such statements are perhaps not entirely appropriate and in general it is not clear why you should open an account and a topic on a specialized technology forum if you have no idea what and for what audience you are writing your information.  Still, you should study this first and then take some actions on the forum. 
Well, of course, without serious guarantees, not a single normal, sensible person will transfer money anywhere and to just anyone.
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