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legendary
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But it seems to me that among the gamblers who write their observations in posts on our forum there are completely different players.  I think there are also those who can make very large bets in cryptocurrencies, since almost everyone here is well versed in cryptocurrency payments, and those who have been on the forum for a long time are probably not at all poor people from slums in remote areas of third world countries.  Such statements are perhaps not entirely appropriate and in general it is not clear why you should open an account and a topic on a specialized technology forum if you have no idea what and for what audience you are writing your information.  Still, you should study this first and then take some actions on the forum. 
Well, of course, without serious guarantees, not a single normal, sensible person will transfer money anywhere and to just anyone.
I see sometimes such statements from cheaters. They try to attract players telling them that they such service only for serious gamblers/rich people/big investor/etc(depends on situation).
I don`t see any reason to believe the OP or ask him something in telegram. If he has some proves - he can post it, it he has nothing to interest members - i have nothing to ask him about.
Well, of course it is.  However, I think that without some real and compelling evidence here on our forum, which is obviously a forum with smart, intelligent and respectable users, accusing someone of fraud simply based on your own considerations, but also, of course, communication experience is also not worth it. First we need to figure it out and such new users who pursue fraudulent goals will still be exposed and disappear from the forum.
hero member
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But it seems to me that among the gamblers who write their observations in posts on our forum there are completely different players.  I think there are also those who can make very large bets in cryptocurrencies, since almost everyone here is well versed in cryptocurrency payments, and those who have been on the forum for a long time are probably not at all poor people from slums in remote areas of third world countries.  Such statements are perhaps not entirely appropriate and in general it is not clear why you should open an account and a topic on a specialized technology forum if you have no idea what and for what audience you are writing your information.  Still, you should study this first and then take some actions on the forum. 
Well, of course, without serious guarantees, not a single normal, sensible person will transfer money anywhere and to just anyone.
I see sometimes such statements from cheaters. They try to attract players telling them that they such service only for serious gamblers/rich people/big investor/etc(depends on situation).
I don`t see any reason to believe the OP or ask him something in telegram. If he has some proves - he can post it, it he has nothing to interest members - i have nothing to ask him about.
legendary
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Hey! After posting this topic, we realized that vast majority of bitcointalk bettors are not exactly our target group, considering that 99% of them are bettors at a "low-level", with small stakes, and most of them have never even heard of betting agents. We are still looking for bettors who stake a few hundred dollars per bet at least. The average stake per bet that we stake for our customers is a few thousand dollars at the moment I would say, with the fact that we have clients who regularly stake four-digit amounts per bet.

We are not your target group to scam so you are having a hard time explaining, you did not mention the escrow in your thread, it's all about give me your money and I will bet it for you and monitor it for you, you think that people here at that gullible to fall into your trap, you don't even have a proof that can prove that what you offer is legit
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Regarding the escrow service, I can say that we are ready to use it if there is an customer that is interesting to us
You should use it in all your dealings because you have no reputation to talk about, you can easily run away with money this is easy for you.
But it seems to me that among the gamblers who write their observations in posts on our forum there are completely different players.  I think there are also those who can make very large bets in cryptocurrencies, since almost everyone here is well versed in cryptocurrency payments, and those who have been on the forum for a long time are probably not at all poor people from slums in remote areas of third world countries.  Such statements are perhaps not entirely appropriate and in general it is not clear why you should open an account and a topic on a specialized technology forum if you have no idea what and for what audience you are writing your information.  Still, you should study this first and then take some actions on the forum. 
Well, of course, without serious guarantees, not a single normal, sensible person will transfer money anywhere and to just anyone.
legendary
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Well, I think there is definitely a way they can get back to their patronizers if Para adventure, their telegram account got deleted - which rarely happens though.
And that way is that for them to save the contact information of all their customers so that if for what ever reason, their account got deleted and the number used to sign up got banned for life, they can use another number to sign up/join telegram back, and use the backup contant of their patronizers stored on their device to reach to their customers again.

So what if those guys are scammers with the aim to only collect people's money and disappear, how will their patronizers get back their money after they have deleted their account? What kind of busy person that will even trust this kind of service that is not registered and doesn't have office any  where apart from telegram. Are you even on the opinion that that stuff is real?
Maybe you should learn to patiently read a comment, understand it fully before posting a useless reply (sorry I called your reply "useless" but that's exactly what it is).

In a post of like for example, 2, 3, 4 or even 5 paragraphs, you can't read just one paragraph ans assume you have gotten the details of that post, and the proceed to posting a reply, this is what many users on this forum tag as a spam.

Go back to my comment you quoted, read everything, understand it properly before you give a reply, and incase you find anything I said confusing, then feel free to ask nicely, don't reply to a post you have not completly read and understood.
legendary
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Hmm, this doesn't make sense in any way. Who will be so lazy to the extent that they cannot even stake their games on their own? Even if the person is so busy, I believe they should have friends who can do it for them. Gambling has already been simplified due to the creation of online gambling. No one is relying on offline gambling before they can make their bets. So, why do anyone need to send their games and money to you? Sorry, but this idea is not encouraged. 
This idea is already a red flag for him and their co-members because there is no one who can't just click on any of these aids displayed here all time even if the person is too lazy in a way he can't go out to gamble or place his bets he could just click to sign up start making using of his funds and games predicted already.
Gambling and betting is now a thing that is so digitalized and broaden were someone can stay at their comfort zone to gamble without seeking permissions from anyone else to place their bets after all the can have total control of their winning amount than solely reply on someone for payments even though there are lot of people who still uses the local road side shop to gamble, at least there is trust and hope that you knows the shop at any given time you could asked for the winning with his or her ticket over there than just sending money to a random fellow here.

First, they are carrying out such services on a platform that is very easy for them to lose access to. If their telegram account gets reported, it can be deleted, and they don't have any backup plans to keep up with their petronizers because I didn't see where they explain how they can continue further communication with their customers if, by chance, they get deleted from telegram. That's another red flag. 

I don't even see any gambler that cannot  stake their favorite games by themselves in the online casinos. It's nothing difficult to do. 
Well, I think there is definitely a way they can get back to their patronizers if Para adventure, their telegram account got deleted - which rarely happens though.
And that way is that for them to save the contact information of all their customers so that if for what ever reason, their account got deleted and the number used to sign up got banned for life, they can use another number to sign up/join telegram back, and use the backup contant of their patronizers stored on their device to reach to their customers again.

This is something op should have explained, but he didn't mention any thing like this because, they have no good intentions at all, they just gonna take your money and block you, that's all.

And to further talk about how telegram works in terms of banning/deleting user accounts, telegram doesn't just ban and delete a user account upon the report of another user, your account can only be banned/deleted forever if you are caught trying to scam/hack telegram itself, or any of its official channels.
What telegram commonly does to your account upon another user reporting your account is restrict your account for some time, how long the restriction will last depends on how many reports they received concerning your account.
hero member
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First, they are carrying out such services on a platform that is very easy for them to lose access to. If their telegram account gets reported, it can be deleted, and they don't have any backup plans to keep up with their petronizers because I didn't see where they explain how they can continue further communication with their customers if, by chance, they get deleted from telegram. That's another red flag. 

I don't even see any gambler that cannot  stake their favorite games by themselves in the online casinos. It's nothing difficult to do. 
Yeah this is one thing I don't like about telegram because its vulnerability to lose access immediately being reported and I wouldn't encourage anyone to much deal on telegram especially that relates with money because it's easier to manipulate and change username and profile details without being tracked, I know these people can just be targeting a particular amount to accumulates from their victim after which they may decide to shut down and zoom.

Yea, that's right. When I started using Telegram, there were just some comments I would make in some groups, and before I knew it, I had been permanently restricted from sending messages to friends or to a group, which is very bad. It happened to me more than three times, and sometimes the account will just be permanently deleted. Sometimes happened recently to my telegram account. I saw a scammer online, so I decided to follow him up so that I could reveal his plot, but at some points, it seems he was aware that I was not his bait, so he stopped responding. Not just more than 1 hour after he stopped responding, my account was logged out. I tried to gain back access but was told I had been blocked. So bad. It seems the idiot reported my account multiple times with his crew. There was this time in 2022 that I wanted to buy a gadget on Telegram from a stranger. After price negotiations, I paid, waiting for him to send my stuff, but the next day I checked, our chat was wiped, and I couldn't even get his account again because such a username didn't exist again. So bad. 

Just saying all that for people to be careful with what they are doing out there, trusting those dudes. 
legendary
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Hmm, this doesn't make sense in any way. Who will be so lazy to the extent that they cannot even stake their games on their own? Even if the person is so busy, I believe they should have friends who can do it for them. Gambling has already been simplified due to the creation of online gambling. No one is relying on offline gambling before they can make their bets. So, why do anyone need to send their games and money to you? Sorry, but this idea is not encouraged. 
This idea is already a red flag for him and their co-members because there is no one who can't just click on any of these aids displayed here all time even if the person is too lazy in a way he can't go out to gamble or place his bets he could just click to sign up start making using of his funds and games predicted already.
Gambling and betting is now a thing that is so digitalized and broaden were someone can stay at their comfort zone to gamble without seeking permissions from anyone else to place their bets after all the can have total control of their winning amount than solely reply on someone for payments even though there are lot of people who still uses the local road side shop to gamble, at least there is trust and hope that you knows the shop at any given time you could asked for the winning with his or her ticket over there than just sending money to a random fellow here.

First, they are carrying out such services on a platform that is very easy for them to lose access to. If their telegram account gets reported, it can be deleted, and they don't have any backup plans to keep up with their petronizers because I didn't see where they explain how they can continue further communication with their customers if, by chance, they get deleted from telegram. That's another red flag. 

I don't even see any gambler that cannot  stake their favorite games by themselves in the online casinos. It's nothing difficult to do. 
Yeah this is one thing I don't like about telegram because its vulnerability to lose access immediately being reported and I wouldn't encourage anyone to much deal on telegram especially that relates with money because it's easier to manipulate and change username and profile details without being tracked, I know these people can just be targeting a particular amount to accumulates from their victim after which they may decide to shut down and zoom.
I make use of telegram every day, that is, let me say that I am very much active on telegram, far much more than I am active on this forum, and I've learnt alot there as well..
I have had my account limited on several occasions, far much in numbers than I can count, and what I did tell you about that is that, if you don't want to be reported, don't share links in groups without authorization, don't send unsolicited PMs to strangers, people you don't have their number on your phone contant.
And lastly, but the most important one is to get yourself a telegram premium, telegram premium is very cheap, as with about $11, you can get up to three months premium service, having a telegram premium simply means that when ever another user reports you, they can't outrightly limit your account, they will have to first of all look at your case specifically, and chances of getting limited through that process is very low.

But then on the other hand, when it comes to the issue of trust, I did say that you are absolutely right, trust no one telegram, there are a lot of scammers, impersonators impersonating different people around the world through telegram - this is just one of the downsides.
newbie
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Which bookmakers are you guys using?

Hi. Of course, we cannot give you exact list of bookmakers we are using, but we can give you some sites for odd & offer reference before your request for bet placement.

Best odds on market plus Telegram betting scream scam to anyone with a half-decent brain. I don't understand why these dumb scammers even bother advertising such transparent bullshit in this forum frankly speaking.

Personally, I receive the best odds for the matches that I want to bet on through Pinnacle, Orbit exchange etc.

Hi. Are you 100% sure Pinnacle is always giving you best odds? What about Pinnacle low liquidity on lower leagues? Some of our clients want to stake a few thousand on the actual odds on the league where the pinnacle click is $220. What about leagues that are not being priced by exchange? This is why there are a solid number of other Asian bookies, otherwise our business would not make sense because most of bettors can access pinnacle and bfex.

Not to mention that there are a dozen of other problems that our clients can potentially encounter, especially with Orbit, which we as a broker do not.

We are still of the opinion that the vast majority of people on this forum did not quite understand what type of bettors actually mostly uses brokers. These are certainly not bettors who place $50 on Stake.com, because it is less important to them whether they get 1.83 or 1.91 as odds. But people who keep statistics, and who have a good ROI long term, of course the important factor for them is the odds.
hero member
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Hmm, this doesn't make sense in any way. Who will be so lazy to the extent that they cannot even stake their games on their own? Even if the person is so busy, I believe they should have friends who can do it for them. Gambling has already been simplified due to the creation of online gambling. No one is relying on offline gambling before they can make their bets. So, why do anyone need to send their games and money to you? Sorry, but this idea is not encouraged. 
This idea is already a red flag for him and their co-members because there is no one who can't just click on any of these aids displayed here all time even if the person is too lazy in a way he can't go out to gamble or place his bets he could just click to sign up start making using of his funds and games predicted already.
Gambling and betting is now a thing that is so digitalized and broaden were someone can stay at their comfort zone to gamble without seeking permissions from anyone else to place their bets after all the can have total control of their winning amount than solely reply on someone for payments even though there are lot of people who still uses the local road side shop to gamble, at least there is trust and hope that you knows the shop at any given time you could asked for the winning with his or her ticket over there than just sending money to a random fellow here.

First, they are carrying out such services on a platform that is very easy for them to lose access to. If their telegram account gets reported, it can be deleted, and they don't have any backup plans to keep up with their petronizers because I didn't see where they explain how they can continue further communication with their customers if, by chance, they get deleted from telegram. That's another red flag. 

I don't even see any gambler that cannot  stake their favorite games by themselves in the online casinos. It's nothing difficult to do. 
Yeah this is one thing I don't like about telegram because its vulnerability to lose access immediately being reported and I wouldn't encourage anyone to much deal on telegram especially that relates with money because it's easier to manipulate and change username and profile details without being tracked, I know these people can just be targeting a particular amount to accumulates from their victim after which they may decide to shut down and zoom.
hero member
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Hmm, this doesn't make sense in any way. Who will be so lazy to the extent that they cannot even stake their games on their own? Even if the person is so busy, I believe they should have friends who can do it for them. Gambling has already been simplified due to the creation of online gambling. No one is relying on offline gambling before they can make their bets. So, why do anyone need to send their games and money to you? Sorry, but this idea is not encouraged. 
This idea is already a red flag for him and their co-members because there is no one who can't just click on any of these aids displayed here all time even if the person is too lazy in a way he can't go out to gamble or place his bets he could just click to sign up start making using of his funds and games predicted already.
Gambling and betting is now a thing that is so digitalized and broaden were someone can stay at their comfort zone to gamble without seeking permissions from anyone else to place their bets after all the can have total control of their winning amount than solely reply on someone for payments even though there are lot of people who still uses the local road side shop to gamble, at least there is trust and hope that you knows the shop at any given time you could asked for the winning with his or her ticket over there than just sending money to a random fellow here.

First, they are carrying out such services on a platform that is very easy for them to lose access to. If their telegram account gets reported, it can be deleted, and they don't have any backup plans to keep up with their petronizers because I didn't see where they explain how they can continue further communication with their customers if, by chance, they get deleted from telegram. That's another red flag. 

I don't even see any gambler that cannot  stake their favorite games by themselves in the online casinos. It's nothing difficult to do. 
hero member
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Newbie account without any information? Do you serious? I hear just: we have the best odds, give me your money.
You must have something to prove your words. At least any information about you, website, some guarantees, few screenshots.

OP is on a fishing expedition... but I don't think he will find here anything. As some members pointed out, why would anyone here risk any amount of money (even a little one, to not even think about some big one) with a telegram betting agent when we have so many sportsbooks around? And people with some higher levels already have some perks, why would they change that?

Well, I wouldn't trust anyone to place bets for me. Especially some anonymous from telegram...
I can`t find any reason to give someone unknown my money. And the OP even don`t try to be serious. I`d prefer to lose some money due to lower odds, than lose all my money giving it to unknown user.


Newbie account without any information? Do you serious? I hear just: we have the best odds, give me your money.
You must have something to prove your words. At least any information about you, website, some guarantees, few screenshots.

He is not even talking about a webpage or anything. He is offering his services through Telegram, though.
And to be honest, with the high percentage of scams and the thousands or hundreds of thousands of scammers there must be within the Crypto ecosystem these days, I am not surprised this guy is not being taken seriously by anyone here.
This offer would be even received with skepticism if a legendary member decided to start their own betting business from the ground up, in my opinion, ...let alone a newbie account with no previous history or reputation.
It is kind of good but also impressive how skeptical a community has to become in order to protect itself from anyone who may have bad intentions.

Even if I come up with a legal and reasonable offer, the skepticism would not allow a single red flag unchecked, that is how much internet has devolved in these modern times, at least in places with a minimum of knowledge of how Bitcoin works.
I don`t sure about giving money, but at least i read attentively thread from legendary accounts. Here i don`t see any reason to spend my money.
Everybody will be skeptical when he hear "give me your money" Smiley
hero member
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Hey! After posting this topic, we realized that vast majority of bitcointalk bettors are not exactly our target group, considering that 99% of them are bettors at a "low-level", with small stakes, and most of them have never even heard of betting agents. We are still looking for bettors who stake a few hundred dollars per bet at least. The average stake per bet that we stake for our customers is a few thousand dollars at the moment I would say, with the fact that we have clients who regularly stake four-digit amounts per bet.

We are not your target group to scam so you are having a hard time explaining, you did not mention the escrow in your thread, it's all about give me your money and I will bet it for you and monitor it for you, you think that people here at that gullible to fall into your trap, you don't even have a proof that can prove that what you offer is legit
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Regarding the escrow service, I can say that we are ready to use it if there is an customer that is interesting to us
You should use it in all your dealings because you have no reputation to talk about, you can easily run away with money this is easy for you.
legendary
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Which bookmakers are you guys using?

Are you asking ironically? Because it is obvious they would not tell you, assuming they are actually trying to start a business with bets, it is within their own interest you not getting access to the same books they have contacted, otherwise their services would not be necessary as a third party.  Actually, any betting agent with an good reputation already established would never allow you to know where they are getting the liquidity from and how the whole chain of bets is managed, it would be translated in puting their own business model in jeopardy.  Roll Eyes

If you were a merchant, how would you react if some client came to you asking where you get your merchandise from at lower price? It is plain common sense.
newbie
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Which bookmakers are you guys using?
legendary
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Good idea. But I don’t understand why I need a telegram? If I can place a bet myself in an Asian bookmaker)
from what I have read the usual target audience of betting agents are people who do not have access to certain market odds, "Asian bookmakers", people who have been restricted or limited, etc... so if you have access to certain market odds, Asian bookmakers, etc... then you don't really need their service and you are not their target audience.

But honestly, are there still people who don't have access to online sportsbooks? I mean, OP wants us to contact him through Telegram, and that already requires an internet connection. Nowadays, as long as we can access the internet, we can find a sportsbook to gamble with. If the IP is restricted or the gambler is afraid of getting caught, then they should risk using a VPN. I'm sure there's always a way if someone is really eager to gamble.
I'm sure almost all people have access to sportsbooks but I'm also sure there are some who don't have access to certain sportsbooks that have certain market odds that they are looking for. as for using VPN to bypass geological restrictions, maybe they can use that, but then again, there are casinos that require KYC upon registration.
That's already a fail if a gambler chooses to pass the KYC first and then use a VPN, as it would be easier for the casino to track and match the information submitted in the KYC to the IP address where a gambler is accessing. Since VPN changes location, that will likely trigger the controls of the casino and create a problem on the gambler's end. Maybe choosing a non-KYC casino is the best solution. It's risky, but not riskier than using an online betting agent.

anyway, just to be clear, I am not trying to side with the OP or anything and I still think that betting agents are risky and prone to scamming(especially if it is online).
With all the comments here, I'm sure it's very transparent and users can use it as a reference before making a decision.
At least they know the risk now, if they'll still proceed, then that's really up to them.
hero member
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Regarding this, all I will have to give as warning is for us to be able to know that not all this telegram platforms are reliable, some could be genuine while some may not, as we have already know that many of them were taking time to discover more ways through which they can generate income from it's pathways, this is all about gambling, trust and nothing more.
hero member
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Hmm, this doesn't make sense in any way. Who will be so lazy to the extent that they cannot even stake their games on their own? Even if the person is so busy, I believe they should have friends who can do it for them. Gambling has already been simplified due to the creation of online gambling. No one is relying on offline gambling before they can make their bets. So, why do anyone need to send their games and money to you? Sorry, but this idea is not encouraged. 
This idea is already a red flag for him and their co-members because there is no one who can't just click on any of these aids displayed here all time even if the person is too lazy in a way he can't go out to gamble or place his bets he could just click to sign up start making using of his funds and games predicted already.
Gambling and betting is now a thing that is so digitalized and broaden were someone can stay at their comfort zone to gamble without seeking permissions from anyone else to place their bets after all the can have total control of their winning amount than solely reply on someone for payments even though there are lot of people who still uses the local road side shop to gamble, at least there is trust and hope that you knows the shop at any given time you could asked for the winning with his or her ticket over there than just sending money to a random fellow here.
legendary
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Good idea. But I don’t understand why I need a telegram? If I can place a bet myself in an Asian bookmaker)
from what I have read the usual target audience of betting agents are people who do not have access to certain market odds, "Asian bookmakers", people who have been restricted or limited, etc... so if you have access to certain market odds, Asian bookmakers, etc... then you don't really need their service and you are not their target audience.

But honestly, are there still people who don't have access to online sportsbooks? I mean, OP wants us to contact him through Telegram, and that already requires an internet connection. Nowadays, as long as we can access the internet, we can find a sportsbook to gamble with. If the IP is restricted or the gambler is afraid of getting caught, then they should risk using a VPN. I'm sure there's always a way if someone is really eager to gamble.
I'm sure almost all people have access to sportsbooks but I'm also sure there are some who don't have access to certain sportsbooks that have certain market odds that they are looking for. as for using VPN to bypass geological restrictions, maybe they can use that, but then again, there are casinos that require KYC upon registration.

anyway, just to be clear, I am not trying to side with the OP or anything and I still think that betting agents are risky and prone to scamming(especially if it is online).
copper member
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If your focusing on high valued sports betting users that are looking for that 1-2% additional vig on traditional EU brands, you should know that without trust no one is going to entrust $10,000 to you. It makes no sense.
Why dont you just make an  intro to the brand and cut yourself a referral/affiliate deal based on rev share or something?

There is no reason for you to be withholding money
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Best odds on market plus Telegram betting scream scam to anyone with a half-decent brain. I don't understand why these dumb scammers even bother advertising such transparent bullshit in this forum frankly speaking.

Personally, I receive the best odds for the matches that I want to bet on through Pinnacle, Orbit exchange etc.
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