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always the student, never the master.
November 14, 2013, 02:02:02 AM
And then, TF goes and scams 4100 btc, making team scotaloo look like sheeps in wolves clothing. the plot has thickened once more.
newbie
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November 13, 2013, 06:54:45 PM
BTCtalkaccounts/Scotaloo please check your email.
newbie
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October 17, 2013, 01:57:28 PM
really REALLY?

dafuq people nobody wants to let this thread die? let it die peacefully, especially when nobody has anything but lies to say.

Here's a hint on how the forum was really hacked:

I don't need your hints because your wrong (if your referring to the 'hacked' forum accounts)

Wait.. Moon as in the guy who ran that SolidCoin exchange a couple years ago and ended up bailing with everybody's money?

No, moon as in Stefan Thomas an admin on this forum - thats who the email belongs to thats very much well known, but he's irrelevant to the whole thing - its likely a diversion or someone trying to cover their ass - I don't fucking care anyways.
legendary
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October 17, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
Hey BTCTalkAccounts, remember our convo early on? I bm'd you about the hacked accounts.

We never followed up, we could've caused so much damage together. Here's a hint on how the forum was really hacked:

[email protected]

Password reuse is bad, okay?

Wait.. Moon as in the guy who ran that SolidCoin exchange a couple years ago and ended up bailing with everybody's money?



This actually makes no sense. I've lost track of what's been happening.

the scammers are using smoke and mirrors to make it appear they aren't full of shit, and its having the opposite effect

Exactly, "team Scotaloo" looks like a wannabe LulzSec right now.
hero member
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always the student, never the master.
October 17, 2013, 12:53:44 PM
Hey BTCTalkAccounts, remember our convo early on? I bm'd you about the hacked accounts.

We never followed up, we could've caused so much damage together. Here's a hint on how the forum was really hacked:

[email protected]

Password reuse is bad, okay?

Wait.. Moon as in the guy who ran that SolidCoin exchange a couple years ago and ended up bailing with everybody's money?



This actually makes no sense. I've lost track of what's been happening.

the scammers are using smoke and mirrors to make it appear they aren't full of shit, and its having the opposite effect
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1112
October 17, 2013, 12:52:08 PM
Hey BTCTalkAccounts, remember our convo early on? I bm'd you about the hacked accounts.

We never followed up, we could've caused so much damage together. Here's a hint on how the forum was really hacked:

[email protected]

Password reuse is bad, okay?

Wait.. Moon as in the guy who ran that SolidCoin exchange a couple years ago and ended up bailing with everybody's money?



This actually makes no sense. I've lost track of what's been happening.
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
October 17, 2013, 12:30:19 PM
Hey BTCTalkAccounts, remember our convo early on? I bm'd you about the hacked accounts.

We never followed up, we could've caused so much damage together. Here's a hint on how the forum was really hacked:

[email protected]

Password reuse is bad, okay?

Wait.. Moon as in the guy who ran that SolidCoin exchange a couple years ago and ended up bailing with everybody's money?
legendary
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October 17, 2013, 12:23:32 PM
Many thanks for this testimony, Atruk. I'd still would like to hear more, but I'm starting to wonder about scotaloo team agenda, looks a bit more complex than just "gimme dat monies".

A number of 'end goals' - all of which were achieved Wink

Pfff, like your cryptic minecraft.exe shit? I still remember when old scotty was all like "lol here's your dox dc" and it was entirely fake.

I don't get it. Nothing adds up with "// team scotaloo". >_<
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October 17, 2013, 04:43:41 AM
Hey BTCTalkAccounts, remember our convo early on? I bm'd you about the hacked accounts.

We never followed up, we could've caused so much damage together. Here's a hint on how the forum was really hacked:

[email protected]

Password reuse is bad, okay?
newbie
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October 17, 2013, 04:23:50 AM
Many thanks for this testimony, Atruk. I'd still would like to hear more, but I'm starting to wonder about scotaloo team agenda, looks a bit more complex than just "gimme dat monies".

I've been dying to answer this for the past 24 hours, but I shouldn't. Yes there is another agenda other than just the btc. A number of 'end goals' - all of which were achieved Wink

A certain someone has been very quiet recently on this thread...probably for good reason

Anyways it's about time I dump this account, this being my only account means that I'm leaving forever...again

bye bye

Here is my pm inbox - to save you guys the hassle of attempting to access the pm's on this account Wink

Hey, you know who it is, its me from bitmessage, I knew I would get back in contact with you Tongue give me your email or safemail address

hello?


ok emailing you now

sent you will know who it is after you read it

you there?

Why wont you talk to me now?

can you delete that post? And Tradefortress has my dox!?
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October 17, 2013, 03:32:39 AM

This isn't directed to you or team scotaloo, but more to people in general.

Honestly I have no idea if this is true or false. In the Bitcoin space a lot of people's dox are held by a lot of other people. Bringing yourself into the Bitcoin space means exposing yourself into a lot of counterparty risks of the sort you wouldn't have conceived of until it is too late.

Forums as a rule tend to fill themselves with lolcows. Generally it is boring business unless it does something like enrich the LabCoin scammers who were identified as a probable scam months before "momentum trades" and full frontal idiots latched onto them. As problematic as scotaloo was in particular and phishers, skiddies, and scammers are in general the larger problem isn't in bitcoin, but in idiots who think they can unprotected and without reading and understanding risk.

I don't want to sound too sympathetic to scotaloo or team scotaloo, but in most scams, especially the big ones like Pirateat40 and LabCoin, the scam happens less because there is a bad buy scammer than because people don't take the time to read how these scams have happened before. I'll probably have even less sympathy for the people who get burned when mcxnow goes bust than the people who fell for scotaloo or furrycoat.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3256239 is the wrong attitude for bitcoin if you want to keep it. Scammers are like tornadoes, earthquakes, flood or fire. They exist, just like any natural thing. The wrong course of action is to assume nature will politely avoid you. The right course of action is to harden yourself for nature's indifference to your snowflakeness.

Many thanks for this testimony, Atruk. I'd still would like to hear more, but I'm starting to wonder about scotaloo team agenda, looks a bit more complex than just "gimme dat monies".

They've always struck me as more troll than anything else. Maybe they just want to scam bigger money though. It is hard to say.

I mean Something Awful is full of idiots playing smarter than they are while 4chan is full of relatively smarter people playing dumber. That though is a generalization. The internet is only ever truly simple when simple people are looking at it.

Not knowing or caring enough about scotaloo to look deep their actions that I know of seem to follow patterns more endemic to some classical forms of trolling than scamming as such. Where before someone would normally be limited to harvesting tears and butthurt, bitcoin seems to have allowed them to harvest tears, butthurt, and money.

Still, you can't assume that these things won't happen. Generally social engineering is a much cheaper way to defeat cryptography than rubber hoses, five dollar wrenches and such things.
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October 16, 2013, 06:29:18 PM

This isn't directed to you or team scotaloo, but more to people in general.

Honestly I have no idea if this is true or false. In the Bitcoin space a lot of people's dox are held by a lot of other people. Bringing yourself into the Bitcoin space means exposing yourself into a lot of counterparty risks of the sort you wouldn't have conceived of until it is too late.

Forums as a rule tend to fill themselves with lolcows. Generally it is boring business unless it does something like enrich the LabCoin scammers who were identified as a probable scam months before "momentum trades" and full frontal idiots latched onto them. As problematic as scotaloo was in particular and phishers, skiddies, and scammers are in general the larger problem isn't in bitcoin, but in idiots who think they can unprotected and without reading and understanding risk.

I don't want to sound too sympathetic to scotaloo or team scotaloo, but in most scams, especially the big ones like Pirateat40 and LabCoin, the scam happens less because there is a bad buy scammer than because people don't take the time to read how these scams have happened before. I'll probably have even less sympathy for the people who get burned when mcxnow goes bust than the people who fell for scotaloo or furrycoat.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3256239 is the wrong attitude for bitcoin if you want to keep it. Scammers are like tornadoes, earthquakes, flood or fire. They exist, just like any natural thing. The wrong course of action is to assume nature will politely avoid you. The right course of action is to harden yourself for nature's indifference to your snowflakeness.

Many thanks for this testimony, Atruk. I'd still would like to hear more, but I'm starting to wonder about scotaloo team agenda, looks a bit more complex than just "gimme dat monies".
legendary
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October 16, 2013, 12:35:02 PM
BTCtalkaccounts/Scotaloo, YOU MUST SPEAK TO ME!

This person is ironcross360.

This doesn't surprise me. He's been a suspected scammer since day 1 and posts like a complete retard.
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October 16, 2013, 04:47:50 AM
Most of the people who scotaloo scammed were refunded, Atruk who just posted on this thread can confirm that as he was one such person.

I can confirm this much. I'm rather but not entirely resistant to the butthurt so I didn't do much more than post polite request for a refund whenever I saw a scotaloo post. Eventually I got the BTC0.04 back from a trade with a CoinChat account Scotaloo had phished. I didn't care to do much more, because getting butthurt over BTC0.04 wasn't worth it.

I never escalated because first, negotiating with terrorists makes poor policy, and second because I was honestly more pissed at the first dude for getting phished. Asshole presented himself as some sort of dev and months later he still struggles running some BTC faucet. At that time that screen name begging to trade $5 in paypal for BTC didn't seem too out of character and as time goes on it would seem even less out of character, but I'd make him GPG a contract really quick before entertaining the idea of a trade with him.

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It's over man, sorry you got fucked over and didn't hit the cash but it's your own fault for snitching and for being stupid. You caused a lot of problems just because you wanted to buy a fucking alienware laptop. If you had not snitched and waited you could've bought 10 of them. TradeFortress has your dox btw so there's that too, you really shouldn't be scamming especially when you're so obvious.

We've been 'data mined' as you call it by pretty much everyone and the results they have come up with are pretty hilarious. When it comes to computers and the internet, evidence is very easy to destroy, modify and create. I'm hoping one of them posts our 'dox' someday, thats a thread I will come back to read!    No wonder so many scammers run wild here - I suspect 80% of the dox posted on bitcointalk are not the actual scammers, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Ross Ulbricht has been framed and he was just someone who had something to hide and had nothing to do with silk road at all - the kind of evidence the feds found is the exact kind of evidence I would've planted as a safe guard if I was DPR.

No point contacting me there ain't nothing I can do for you. We sold all the accounts that were not banned months ago. Now run along to your next username or fuck off please. I don't know what you expected us to do for you - but we're not doing shit.

This isn't directed to you or team scotaloo, but more to people in general.

Honestly I have no idea if this is true or false. In the Bitcoin space a lot of people's dox are held by a lot of other people. Bringing yourself into the Bitcoin space means exposing yourself into a lot of counterparty risks of the sort you wouldn't have conceived of until it is too late.

Forums as a rule tend to fill themselves with lolcows. Generally it is boring business unless it does something like enrich the LabCoin scammers who were identified as a probable scam months before "momentum trades" and full frontal idiots latched onto them. As problematic as scotaloo was in particular and phishers, skiddies, and scammers are in general the larger problem isn't in bitcoin, but in idiots who think they can unprotected and without reading and understanding risk.

I don't want to sound too sympathetic to scotaloo or team scotaloo, but in most scams, especially the big ones like Pirateat40 and LabCoin, the scam happens less because there is a bad buy scammer than because people don't take the time to read how these scams have happened before. I'll probably have even less sympathy for the people who get burned when mcxnow goes bust than the people who fell for scotaloo or furrycoat.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3256239 is the wrong attitude for bitcoin if you want to keep it. Scammers are like tornadoes, earthquakes, flood or fire. They exist, just like any natural thing. The wrong course of action is to assume nature will politely avoid you. The right course of action is to harden yourself for nature's indifference to your snowflakeness.
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October 16, 2013, 02:06:46 AM
BTCtalkaccounts/Scotaloo, YOU MUST SPEAK TO ME!

Just tell me, wtf do you want - what do you expect from us?

I'm sorry for basically leaving you out to dry, but I don't have any forum accounts to give you and scotaloo is separated and defunct.

Most of the people who scotaloo scammed were refunded, Atruk who just posted on this thread can confirm that as he was one such person. Anyone is welcome to try and find someone we didn't refund who didn't deserve to be scammed.

It's over man, sorry you got fucked over and didn't hit the cash but it's your own fault for snitching and for being stupid. You caused a lot of problems just because you wanted to buy a fucking alienware laptop. If you had not snitched and waited you could've bought 10 of them. TradeFortress has your dox btw so there's that too, you really shouldn't be scamming especially when you're so obvious.

We've been 'data mined' as you call it by pretty much everyone and the results they have come up with are pretty hilarious. When it comes to computers and the internet, evidence is very easy to destroy, modify and create. I'm hoping one of them posts our 'dox' someday, thats a thread I will come back to read!    No wonder so many scammers run wild here - I suspect 80% of the dox posted on bitcointalk are not the actual scammers, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Ross Ulbricht has been framed and he was just someone who had something to hide and had nothing to do with silk road at all - the kind of evidence the feds found is the exact kind of evidence I would've planted as a safe guard if I was DPR.

No point contacting me there ain't nothing I can do for you. We sold all the accounts that were not banned months ago. Now run along to your next username or fuck off please. I don't know what you expected us to do for you - but we're not doing shit.
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October 16, 2013, 01:33:33 AM
What the fuck is going on here? 

Got dox, will travel?  Roll Eyes Huh

Seems like it.
sr. member
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October 15, 2013, 10:15:39 PM
What the fuck is going on here? 

Got dox, will travel?  Roll Eyes Huh
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October 15, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
BTCtalkaccounts/Scotaloo, YOU MUST SPEAK TO ME!
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October 13, 2013, 08:00:15 AM
BTCTalkaccounts/Scotaloo, SPEAK TO ME!
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October 12, 2013, 08:11:35 AM
He does not want to speak to me anymore.
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