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May 24, 2023, 04:03:26 PM
Martinez Pedro got quite a satisfying victory over Dan Added with a 2 - 0 result.
I didn't watch the match until it was over but at the start of the game Martinez Pedro dominated the game in my opinion so that it could provide an opportunity to choose Martinez Pedro as the winner.
Even though I won, it was a shame from this match that the Odds that I got were quite low.

Feel happy that you've won the match. The first set of the match was a real fight and finally Martinez won at the tie breaker 7-68. Maybe if you've placed the bet at those moments of close fight you could've got the chance to make the bet at better odds. The second set went completely in favour of Martinez as he was able to win 6-2.
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May 24, 2023, 08:50:13 AM
Martinez Pedro got quite a satisfying victory over Dan Added with a 2 - 0 result.
I didn't watch the match until it was over but at the start of the game Martinez Pedro dominated the game in my opinion so that it could provide an opportunity to choose Martinez Pedro as the winner.
Even though I won, it was a shame from this match that the Odds that I got were quite low.
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May 24, 2023, 08:34:20 AM
IMO I dont see him winning anything in the near future no matter what tournament.
Qualifying at Roland Garros is in play now so he really only has this tournament to get
extra play time in before he starts in RG.
Unfortunately for him with the recovery from injury many players have progressed while
he seems to have stayed static. this is reflected in his ATP ranking outside the top 20!

I agree. Unfortunately. The problem is his thoughts and mind. Tennis is decided a lot in the head. His fitness is fine. But something happens during his game that he thinks about too much. He said that in a recent interview. And if the opponent takes advantage of this time, even if it only lasts a few minutes, then it will be difficult for Zverev to get back into the match. Time will tell if he will mange it.

This is just his opponent winning the psychological warfare in my opinion. Let's not forget every man has to face the demons which he has created in his mind. You have to conquer yourself before you conquer the world.

As a top level athlete, you absolutely cannot let any doubts get close to your mind. And that's the thing which he seems to be not able to do in certain situations. He has to learn how to not doubt himself in key situations. Probably he needs a good psychologist by himself.
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May 24, 2023, 08:11:32 AM
IMO I dont see him winning anything in the near future no matter what tournament.

Qualifying at Roland Garros is in play now so he really only has this tournament to get
extra play time in before he starts in RG.

Unfortunately for him with the recovery from injury many players have progressed while
he seems to have stayed static. this is reflected in his ATP ranking outside the top 20!

I agree. Unfortunately. The problem is his thoughts and mind. Tennis is decided a lot in the head. His fitness is fine. But something happens during his game that he thinks about too much. He said that in a recent interview. And if the opponent takes advantage of this time, even if it only lasts a few minutes, then it will be difficult for Zverev to get back into the match. Time will tell if he will mange it.
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May 24, 2023, 07:22:05 AM
Zverev is already in the quarter finals. Zverev vs Wu is on 25th May. The other six players of the three matches in the quarter final are still to be decided.
Fritz, Rudd, and Dimitrov are certainly popular choices to go through. Let's see what happens.

Zverev has been given a wildcard in Genf. Since he needs match practice and more self-confidence, I am not so sure whether it was the right decision for him to accept the wildcard. For him it is a preparation tournament for the Fench Open. Maybe it would be better if he played more matches. It is important that he improves his mentality in his head.
He has to reach the semi-finals in Genf. There he will meet Ruud or Griekspoor.

IMO I dont see him winning anything in the near future no matter what tournament.

Qualifying at Roland Garros is in play now so he really only has this tournament to get
extra play time in before he starts in RG.

Unfortunately for him with the recovery from injury many players have progressed while
he seems to have stayed static. this is reflected in his ATP ranking outside the top 20!
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May 24, 2023, 04:09:18 AM
Zverev is already in the quarter finals. Zverev vs Wu is on 25th May. The other six players of the three matches in the quarter final are still to be decided.
Fritz, Rudd, and Dimitrov are certainly popular choices to go through. Let's see what happens.

Zverev has been given a wildcard in Genf. Since he needs match practice and more self-confidence, I am not so sure whether it was the right decision for him to accept the wildcard. For him it is a preparation tournament for the Fench Open. Maybe it would be better if he played more matches. It is important that he improves his mentality in his head.
He has to reach the semi-finals in Genf. There he will meet Ruud or Griekspoor.
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May 23, 2023, 07:15:10 PM
Yes, the quality has certainly improved on the WTA. The players are performing well and also improving. I generally did not follow WTA because of the unpredictable nature and inconsistent performance of players. But now it feels like actually becoming more competitive and somewhat predictable.
Dunno, I don't see any particular difference between ATP and WTA in terms of predictable/unpredictable results. For example Alcaraz losing in Rome to qualifier. It wasn't too predictable was it?  Grin
Anyway, tennis world is getting ready for Roland Garros but meanwhile there are some top players hitting the courts in Geneva. Ruud, Zverev and Fritz are top seeds there. I also spotted Dimitrov in the draw. 

Well, Alcaraz is not very consistent anyway. But I have to say you got me there xD.

Zverev is already in the quarter finals. Zverev vs Wu is on 25th May. The other six players of the three matches in the quarter final are still to be decided.
Fritz, Rudd, and Dimitrov are certainly popular choices to go through. Let's see what happens.

In passing I quickly glanced over an article about an underwater tennis court being built for professional use...  No idea if that was true or what but it looked pretty awesome.  I'll admit that the idea of watching a tennis match has never excited me, but I would jump at the chance to see a sporting event underwater.  Although when you think about it, it really is a recipe for quite a spectacular disaster.
And this got me thinking about how are they going to work that with players wearing
oxygen tanks and breathing masks and what would the ball be made from so that
it doesnt sink or float to the top......

But of course "under water" means actually under the water not in the water. Interesting
though, a very unique experience.
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/industries/construction/423745-where-are-they-now-dubais-underwater-tennis-stadium

Well at first I also thought that it is going to be interesting to see players jumping literally in the water and trying to play tennis. But on a more serious note, I will say that it is still going to be hard to arrange this one. Because I don't think the supply of oxygen in the air, wherever it is going to be held underwater, is going to be actually good.

And I think that is going to cause the players to actually not perform at the top of their capability. But this is certainly a unique idea and this certainly will be able to attract more audience in my opinion.
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May 23, 2023, 04:39:21 PM
In passing I quickly glanced over an article about an underwater tennis court being built for professional use...  No idea if that was true or what but it looked pretty awesome.  I'll admit that the idea of watching a tennis match has never excited me, but I would jump at the chance to see a sporting event underwater.  Although when you think about it, it really is a recipe for quite a spectacular disaster.

And this got me thinking about how are they going to work that with players wearing
oxygen tanks and breathing masks and what would the ball be made from so that
it doesnt sink or float to the top......

But of course "under water" means actually under the water not in the water. Interesting
though, a very unique experience.

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/industries/construction/423745-where-are-they-now-dubais-underwater-tennis-stadium
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May 23, 2023, 04:02:21 PM
Yes, the quality has certainly improved on the WTA. The players are performing well and also improving. I generally did not follow WTA because of the unpredictable nature and inconsistent performance of players. But now it feels like actually becoming more competitive and somewhat predictable.

Dunno, I don't see any particular difference between ATP and WTA in terms of predictable/unpredictable results. For example Alcaraz losing in Rome to qualifier. It wasn't too predictable was it?  Grin

Anyway, tennis world is getting ready for Roland Garros but meanwhile there are some top players hitting the courts in Geneva. Ruud, Zverev and Fritz are top seeds there. I also spotted Dimitrov in the draw. 
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May 23, 2023, 03:36:55 PM
In passing I quickly glanced over an article about an underwater tennis court being built for professional use...  No idea if that was true or what but it looked pretty awesome.  I'll admit that the idea of watching a tennis match has never excited me, but I would jump at the chance to see a sporting event underwater.  Although when you think about it, it really is a recipe for quite a spectacular disaster.
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May 23, 2023, 03:24:17 PM
Alcaraz has just 20 years but has played very strongly. It's really hard find players that can reach such success at that age... and... this is "typical of young number ones".
I have seen several statistics and he is performing like a top player (Murray, Nadal, Federer, Djokovic etc) more or less they were a kind of top players even at younger age...


Alcaraz really is at top of his form but i still wonder how he would play against the big 3 at that age. If he would be close to their level. Rune is really good and i think he will play a lot of good matches against Rune. This two will dominate for a long time for sure.
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Alcaraz has just 20 years but has played very strongly. It's really hard find players that can reach such success at that age... and... this is "typical of young number ones".
I have seen several statistics and he is performing like a top player (Murray, Nadal, Federer, Djokovic etc) more or less they were a kind of top players even at younger age...
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May 23, 2023, 01:08:00 PM
Alcaraz definitely has to improve his consistency, I suppose the same could be said for a lot of
top players really. He is still young though and is still learning, no doubt his consistency will improve.

Medvedev being more smarter is subjective, he is older and has more experience, he is a different
type of player with different skills.

On the WTA side what I have learned this year so far is that Swiatek is beatable and the points
gap is closing between here and Sabalenka and the next 3 spots are very close so I suppose the
WTA is becoming more interesting for me. there are more defined top 5 and top 10 players who
can hopefully stay in the top 10 for a while.

Taking into account that he also came back from an injury, I would not say just yet that he has issues with consistency. Sometimes I believe you have these days where your shots don't hit the line but miss it by an inch almost every time you go for it. When tennis players experience that, you can often see it while they are playing that they almost already know they can't win on that day.

But the successes this year so far for Alcaraz has still been amazing. He won more tournaments this year than others win in five years. He should have done better of course in Rome, but he also knows better than everyone else. The early ending in Rome may have also given hime some time to rest before he goes all out at the French Open. He has been injured quite often for his young age. It might have been for good that he lost in the Rome tournament early.

At the French Open he will once more demonstrate his skills. I am looking forward to those matches and let's hope he is going to make it far.
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May 22, 2023, 04:12:41 PM
Alcaraz certainly has a lot of talent. But he will have to be more consistent with his performance. I actually think Medvedev being smarter can cause him a lot of problems. But after all, it does come down to who can play better on a given day. If I have to predict a match between them I will say 50-50 right now.
Alcaraz definitely has to improve his consistency, I suppose the same could be said for a lot of
top players really. He is still young though and is still learning, no doubt his consistency will improve.

Medvedev being more smarter is subjective, he is older and has more experience, he is a different
type of player with different skills.

Experience can actually be a really good asset for a lot of players in a lot of circumstances. If you ask me I will say, Medvedev is of course a lot more experienced compared to Alcaraz. And of course, him being quite young at 27 I don't think it is going to be any problem when it comes to the stamina. At 27 he is at his peak.

So, I think it is actually going to be really hard for Alcaraz to actually beat Medvedev. And of course, there is the consistency thing. Without being consistent I don't think Alcaraz will actually be able to finish in the final let alone win the grand slam.


On the WTA side what I have learned this year so far is that Swiatek is beatable and the points
gap is closing between here and Sabalenka and the next 3 spots are very close so I suppose the
WTA is becoming more interesting for me. there are more defined top 5 and top 10 players who
can hopefully stay in the top 10 for a while.

Yes, the quality has certainly improved on the WTA. The players are performing well and also improving. I generally did not follow WTA because of the unpredictable nature and inconsistent performance of players. But now it feels like actually becoming more competitive and somewhat predictable.
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Perhaps Alcaraz has more talent, I woudn't question that but Medvedev is much smarter. I've read somewhere he was really good at maths in school and was even planning to become a mathematician but chose a tennis career eventually. It's a pleasure to watch how he chooses the most logical and efficient shot most of the time.

WTA has progressed a lot lately. They are female players with a 200km/h+ serve for example. I remember Djokovic was serving 150-160km/h at around 2015-2016 and it was ok. Jelena Ostapenko has a higher average winner speed than Andy Murray, Maria Sakkari has better physique than many male players etc etc

Alcaraz certainly has a lot of talent. But he will have to be more consistent with his performance. I actually think Medvedev being smarter can cause him a lot of problems. But after all, it does come down to who can play better on a given day. If I have to predict a match between them I will say 50-50 right now.

WTA has certainly improved a lot also. The female players are certainly getting better day by day. I think maybe the female players are trying to give the spectators something similar to the male players. That is certainly going to be very hard but it is good that they are actually trying to give the customer a good product.

Alcaraz definitely has to improve his consistency, I suppose the same could be said for a lot of
top players really. He is still young though and is still learning, no doubt his consistency will improve.

Medvedev being more smarter is subjective, he is older and has more experience, he is a different
type of player with different skills.

On the WTA side what I have learned this year so far is that Swiatek is beatable and the points
gap is closing between here and Sabalenka and the next 3 spots are very close so I suppose the
WTA is becoming more interesting for me. there are more defined top 5 and top 10 players who
can hopefully stay in the top 10 for a while.
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May 22, 2023, 01:11:11 PM
Well, this was certainly a surprise for me. I thought the match was surely going to go to the third set. But obviously, that did not happen. Medvedev was able to win the match in the first two sets.
Quite surprised to see how Medvedev played in this tournament from the first rounds to the final. He only occasionally lost focus and was able to return to his best performance, including in the match against Rune, I'm quite sure the second set would go to Rune and the match would be decided via the third set which could have changed the outcome a lot, but Medvedev didn't let that happen and he was able to take his game back well and close out the second set and seal the title for him and it's a first title on clay for him.
This year Medvedev and Rune have been of the players who have impressed, and Medvedev's transformation on clay was truly beyond expectations, and with the results at this tournament Alcaraz will face a big challenge not only from Djokovic who might start to improve at this Grand Slam but also from Medvedev, so Alcaraz's target of getting his second Grand Slam title will not be easy.

The competition is certainly getting not more harder for Alcaraz. He cannot be inconsistent at all. He will have to be really performing well and he cannot be inconsistent at all like he has been in a lot of cases. Otherwise, he is not going to win the grand slam of this year. I actually want to know what people think regarding the fact that Medvedev is also actually a very big competitor for Alcaraz right now alongside Djokovic, so which two people  actually want to see in the finals? I would still want to see a final between Djokovic and Alcaraz. I don't think it gets any better than this to be honest.


Perhaps Alcaraz has more talent, I woudn't question that but Medvedev is much smarter. I've read somewhere he was really good at maths in school and was even planning to become a mathematician but chose a tennis career eventually. It's a pleasure to watch how he chooses the most logical and efficient shot most of the time.

WTA has progressed a lot lately. They are female players with a 200km/h+ serve for example. I remember Djokovic was serving 150-160km/h at around 2015-2016 and it was ok. Jelena Ostapenko has a higher average winner speed than Andy Murray, Maria Sakkari has better physique than many male players etc etc

Alcaraz certainly has a lot of talent. But he will have to be more consistent with his performance. I actually think Medvedev being smarter can cause him a lot of problems. But after all, it does come down to who can play better on a given day. If I have to predict a match between them I will say 50-50 right now.

WTA has certainly improved a lot also. The female players are certainly getting better day by day. I think maybe the female players are trying to give the spectators something similar to the male players. That is certainly going to be very hard but it is good that they are actually trying to give the customer a good product.
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Medvedev Vs Rune
The match is underway and one set has been completed. Medvedev is currently leading because he got the win in the first set. This is going to be a very close encounter between both of them. I honestly believe that this is going to be very close and also is going to go to the third set.

I also expected this match go to the third set. Fortunately Medvedev have won it earlier on direct set wins. In the second set Medvedev have got four match points as the points were 0 : 40. Finally 7-5 7-5 and the title is won by Medvedev, and Rune needs to learn more. In the previous encounter between the two, it was Rune who won the match and this time it is Medvedev.

Well, this was certainly a surprise for me. I thought the match was surely going to go to the third set. But obviously, that did not happen. Medvedev was able to win the match in the first two sets.

Congratulations to Medvedev. He did really well to win this Italian Open. The final could have been a little more closer, but it is what it is. I absolutely agree that Rune is still a very young player. He still needs a lot more experience when it comes to playing in the finals of any competition. And with experience, he will be able to handle the pressure situations better.

Medvedev is still one of the best tennis players in the world, but he does have a distinct playing style. it all doesn't look that smooth, and in terms of talent Alcaraz is a lot more talented. You can't make it with talent alone. The most talented tennis player ever is undoubtedly Federer. In the past, Agassi and Sampras had to work much harder for it, I think. Tennis was more fun to watch back then. Maybe there are just too many tennis tournaments these days? I don't think you can compare the generations well at the moment. Women's tennis is of a completely different/lower level than men's tennis.

Perhaps Alcaraz has more talent, I woudn't question that but Medvedev is much smarter. I've read somewhere he was really good at maths in school and was even planning to become a mathematician but chose a tennis career eventually. It's a pleasure to watch how he chooses the most logical and efficient shot most of the time.

WTA has progressed a lot lately. They are female players with a 200km/h+ serve for example. I remember Djokovic was serving 150-160km/h at around 2015-2016 and it was ok. Jelena Ostapenko has a higher average winner speed than Andy Murray, Maria Sakkari has better physique than many male players etc etc
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Well, this was certainly a surprise for me. I thought the match was surely going to go to the third set. But obviously, that did not happen. Medvedev was able to win the match in the first two sets.
Quite surprised to see how Medvedev played in this tournament from the first rounds to the final. He only occasionally lost focus and was able to return to his best performance, including in the match against Rune, I'm quite sure the second set would go to Rune and the match would be decided via the third set which could have changed the outcome a lot, but Medvedev didn't let that happen and he was able to take his game back well and close out the second set and seal the title for him and it's a first title on clay for him.
This year Medvedev and Rune have been of the players who have impressed, and Medvedev's transformation on clay was truly beyond expectations, and with the results at this tournament Alcaraz will face a big challenge not only from Djokovic who might start to improve at this Grand Slam but also from Medvedev, so Alcaraz's target of getting his second Grand Slam title will not be easy.

Women's tennis is often not to be seen. But I make that assumption if you first watched a game of the men. The difference is very big between men and women in the world of tennis, but isn't that the case with every sport? Men are more athletic and stronger built, as a woman you cannot influence that. By the way, the Williams sisters were quite massive back in the day. They often won with brute force and technique. But there will be no one to dominate the sport as much as Serena Williams did a few years ago. There was little to that either, always 6-1 6-0 or something in that trend.
Not something that can be compared of course, but the women's section still provides interesting things if you like it, some women tennis players play with amazing power like Aryna Sabalenka, and some of them also have serve that are no less fast like the male players, Sabalenka and Rybakina are one of women players who has a fast serve.
I still often watch women's matches and what's interesting is that after the two Williams no longer dominated the competition here it became very open that anyone could become a champion, and also in the men's section it seemed that the same thing was starting to happen after the big 3 were only Djokovic who was still playing
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Women's tennis is often not to be seen. But I make that assumption if you first watched a game of the men. The difference is very big between men and women in the world of tennis, but isn't that the case with every sport? Men are more athletic and stronger built, as a woman you cannot influence that. By the way, the Williams sisters were quite massive back in the day. They often won with brute force and technique. But there will be no one to dominate the sport as much as Serena Williams did a few years ago. There was little to that either, always 6-1 6-0 or something in that trend.
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Medvedev Vs Rune
The match is underway and one set has been completed. Medvedev is currently leading because he got the win in the first set. This is going to be a very close encounter between both of them. I honestly believe that this is going to be very close and also is going to go to the third set.

I also expected this match go to the third set. Fortunately Medvedev have won it earlier on direct set wins. In the second set Medvedev have got four match points as the points were 0 : 40. Finally 7-5 7-5 and the title is won by Medvedev, and Rune needs to learn more. In the previous encounter between the two, it was Rune who won the match and this time it is Medvedev.

Well, this was certainly a surprise for me. I thought the match was surely going to go to the third set. But obviously, that did not happen. Medvedev was able to win the match in the first two sets.

Congratulations to Medvedev. He did really well to win this Italian Open. The final could have been a little more closer, but it is what it is. I absolutely agree that Rune is still a very young player. He still needs a lot more experience when it comes to playing in the finals of any competition. And with experience, he will be able to handle the pressure situations better.

Medvedev is still one of the best tennis players in the world, but he does have a distinct playing style. it all doesn't look that smooth, and in terms of talent Alcaraz is a lot more talented. You can't make it with talent alone. The most talented tennis player ever is undoubtedly Federer. In the past, Agassi and Sampras had to work much harder for it, I think. Tennis was more fun to watch back then. Maybe there are just too many tennis tournaments these days? I don't think you can compare the generations well at the moment. Women's tennis is of a completely different/lower level than men's tennis.
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