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Quote from: Trofo on January 25, 2023, 04:16:34 PM

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Hell, Marin Čilić is still in top 20 and I have a feeling he had a constant struggle with form and injuries last season. What the hell are others doing then?

honestly, I thought that he retired last season

just looking at Murray with artificial hip, that is playing competitive is enough to judge current situation in tennis world

in the end, it suits Djokovic great, he could get 4x GS this season easily with this competition if they allow him to play on US, and he probably thought that it is over when lost from Medvedev in 2021 on US Open

Both Cilic and Murray are currently at the same level and now Murray even looks better then Cilic. But still Djokovic is same age as them but he takes care of his body in a special way so thats why he isnt struggling both of them. Plus Murray with the hip is doing the best he can so far

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Quote from: Trofo on January 25, 2023, 04:16:34 PM

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Hell, Marin Čilić is still in top 20 and I have a feeling he had a constant struggle with form and injuries last season. What the hell are others doing then?

honestly, I thought that he retired last season

just looking at Murray with artificial hip, that is playing competitive is enough to judge current situation in tennis world

in the end, it suits Djokovic great, he could get 4x GS this season easily with this competition if they allow him to play on US, and he probably thought that it is over when lost from Medvedev in 2021 on US Open

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 25, 2023, 11:34:39 AM

I think it is a combination of both.
Đoković has a claim to be the tennis GOAT and still performs on a really high level, but tennis in general hasn't been this weak in a long time.
I recall the beginning of the Federer era in which there simply weren't dominant players around and I feel that's what awaits us soon again.
From the current crop of players there are a lot of good ones, but other than Alcaraz not a single great one - and even Alcaraz is not there yet.
We were kinda spoiled with how good we've had it with Fed, Rafa and Novak.

Yeah best way to judge how strong tour is at the moment is to check top 20 players. I don't have anything against Ruud but player of his qoulity to be comfortably on 3rd spot is a bit disappointing. He is very good on clay and just solid on other surfaces. Best thing I can say about him is that he is constant with his results but I don't see him as top 5 player for sure.
Hell, Marin Čilić is still in top 20 and I have a feeling he had a constant struggle with form and injuries last season. What the hell are others doing then?

Yea I kind of agree, we have been spoiled with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic and add
Murray in there too but from a spectators point of view it's nicer if there is more variety,
personally speaking.
The fans of the top 3 will always what them to win but for me I want change every so
often.
I remember back in the 90's in F1 when Schumacher was dominant, I stopped watching
because it became too predictable.
Back to Tennis, yea looking at the top 20, there isn't anyone apart from Alcaraz who has that
'X Factor" and that's really what everyone is looking for...

The problem is we have seen the best at work. So now most of us expect players to play like that or even better. And that is really hard to see in every generation, to be honest.
I knew after this retirement of so much great players at almost the same time, there is going to be a period like this when everyone going to want to see performances like they used to see. But they are most probably not going to get that. That's why we are thinking that the tournament is not one which is of very high quality.

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Quote from: casperBGD on January 25, 2023, 09:13:04 AM

agree here, and it was obvious before the AO as well
I just cannot decide is Djokovic that good at the moment, or competition is on a really low level - and later seems as closer option

looking at semi-finalists, maybe Tsitsi and Khachanov can play longer match, but Djokovic will probably play 6 more sets till title

I think it is a combination of both.
Đoković has a claim to be the tennis GOAT and still performs on a really high level, but tennis in general hasn't been this weak in a long time.

I recall the beginning of the Federer era in which there simply weren't dominant players around and I feel that's what awaits us soon again.
From the current crop of players there are a lot of good ones, but other than Alcaraz not a single great one - and even Alcaraz is not there yet.

We were kinda spoiled with how good we've had it with Fed, Rafa and Novak.

Yeah best way to judge how strong tour is at the moment is to check top 20 players. I don't have anything against Ruud but player of his qoulity to be comfortably on 3rd spot is a bit disappointing. He is very good on clay and just solid on other surfaces. Best thing I can say about him is that he is constant with his results but I don't see him as top 5 player for sure.

Hell, Marin Čilić is still in top 20 and I have a feeling he had a constant struggle with form and injuries last season. What the hell are others doing then?

Yea I kind of agree, we have been spoiled with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic and add
Murray in there too but from a spectators point of view it's nicer if there is more variety,
personally speaking.

The fans of the top 3 will always what them to win but for me I want change every so
often.

I remember back in the 90's in F1 when Schumacher was dominant, I stopped watching
because it became too predictable.

Back to Tennis, yea looking at the top 20, there isn't anyone apart from Alcaraz who has that
'X Factor" and that's really what everyone is looking for...

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on January 25, 2023, 02:41:14 PM

Djokovic has made a big impression, this time on the tennis court. He wins against opponents as if they were on the tennis court for the first time. Only Tstitsipas seems to be a serious challenger in a possible final. Djokovic will also have little trouble in the semi-final. He was visibly irritated during his match about certain supporters, but as a top tennis player you also have to be able to handle criticism. And completely in his situation. There are still many people who disagree with how Djokovic went through the Corona period and deliberately did not get vaccinated. You should draw a line under that, but in the station some people had been drinking and then they can get annoying.

This is much expected win and for that reason none to be make a fault and loss to him. His game is different and he is to hold the title after a break. This is his decision and we can't comment on it, because different people had different opinion on vaccination. People who are with hatred on his success makes criticism. These are all quite simple things for him and he handles well in a gentle way.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 25, 2023, 11:34:39 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on January 25, 2023, 09:13:04 AM

agree here, and it was obvious before the AO as well
I just cannot decide is Djokovic that good at the moment, or competition is on a really low level - and later seems as closer option

looking at semi-finalists, maybe Tsitsi and Khachanov can play longer match, but Djokovic will probably play 6 more sets till title

I think it is a combination of both.
Đoković has a claim to be the tennis GOAT and still performs on a really high level, but tennis in general hasn't been this weak in a long time.

I recall the beginning of the Federer era in which there simply weren't dominant players around and I feel that's what awaits us soon again.
From the current crop of players there are a lot of good ones, but other than Alcaraz not a single great one - and even Alcaraz is not there yet.

We were kinda spoiled with how good we've had it with Fed, Rafa and Novak.

Yeah best way to judge how strong tour is at the moment is to check top 20 players. I don't have anything against Ruud but player of his qoulity to be comfortably on 3rd spot is a bit disappointing. He is very good on clay and just solid on other surfaces. Best thing I can say about him is that he is constant with his results but I don't see him as top 5 player for sure.

Hell, Marin Čilić is still in top 20 and I have a feeling he had a constant struggle with form and injuries last season. What the hell are others doing then?

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Djokovic has made a big impression, this time on the tennis court. He wins against opponents as if they were on the tennis court for the first time. Only Tstitsipas seems to be a serious challenger in a possible final. Djokovic will also have little trouble in the semi-final. He was visibly irritated during his match about certain supporters, but as a top tennis player you also have to be able to handle criticism. And completely in his situation. There are still many people who disagree with how Djokovic went through the Corona period and deliberately did not get vaccinated. You should draw a line under that, but in the station some people had been drinking and then they can get annoying.

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Quote from: casperBGD on January 25, 2023, 09:13:04 AM

agree here, and it was obvious before the AO as well
I just cannot decide is Djokovic that good at the moment, or competition is on a really low level - and later seems as closer option

looking at semi-finalists, maybe Tsitsi and Khachanov can play longer match, but Djokovic will probably play 6 more sets till title

I think it is a combination of both.
Đoković has a claim to be the tennis GOAT and still performs on a really high level, but tennis in general hasn't been this weak in a long time.

I recall the beginning of the Federer era in which there simply weren't dominant players around and I feel that's what awaits us soon again.
From the current crop of players there are a lot of good ones, but other than Alcaraz not a single great one - and even Alcaraz is not there yet.

We were kinda spoiled with how good we've had it with Fed, Rafa and Novak.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 25, 2023, 09:32:31 AM

What sort of a chance does Paul have? he finished last year very strong, can he at least
take a set from Djokovic?

Yeah, damned Rublev didn't even give us a set so ended up putting no money down, no idea who Tommy Paul is or how he plays to be frank but I reckon there's a slight bit of value in a 3:1 Djoko score (almost 4/1)... I know he's perfect but doesn't he like to put himself a mountain to climb?

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 25, 2023, 07:32:13 AM

Nothing more than a training for Đoković. I have to say that it looks like one of the easiest GS's that he'll win.

He's got Paul in the semis, and probably Tsitsipas in the final. He's got a 10-2 score against him and won last 5 matches on hard, with only 1 lost set.

If he loses more than 1 set in these 2 games, I'll be surprised.

It's really hard to see this going any other way than Djokovic clocking up another GS.

Really surprised by the straight set win today, 1-6, 2-6, 4-6. I recon Rublev had himself beaten
in the dressing room.

What sort of a chance does Paul have? he finished last year very strong, can he at least
take a set from Djokovic?

Djokovic is unstoppoble. 3-0 for Djokovic against Paul for sure in the upcoming match. Djokovic even with his injury is playing with every single player on the tour. This is just shamefull that a guy that has 35 years plays against others like against children. Only an injury can make that Djokovic losses the title

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 25, 2023, 07:32:13 AM

Nothing more than a training for Đoković. I have to say that it looks like one of the easiest GS's that he'll win.

He's got Paul in the semis, and probably Tsitsipas in the final. He's got a 10-2 score against him and won last 5 matches on hard, with only 1 lost set.

If he loses more than 1 set in these 2 games, I'll be surprised.

It's really hard to see this going any other way than Djokovic clocking up another GS.

Really surprised by the straight set win today, 1-6, 2-6, 4-6. I recon Rublev had himself beaten
in the dressing room.

What sort of a chance does Paul have? he finished last year very strong, can he at least
take a set from Djokovic?

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 25, 2023, 07:32:13 AM

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If he loses more than 1 set in these 2 games, I'll be surprised.

agree here, and it was obvious before the AO as well
I just cannot decide is Djokovic that good at the moment, or competition is on a really low level - and later seems as closer option

looking at semi-finalists, maybe Tsitsi and Khachanov can play longer match, but Djokovic will probably play 6 more sets till title

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Nothing more than a training for Đoković. I have to say that it looks like one of the easiest GS's that he'll win.

He's got Paul in the semis, and probably Tsitsipas in the final. He's got a 10-2 score against him and won last 5 matches on hard, with only 1 lost set.

If he loses more than 1 set in these 2 games, I'll be surprised.

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That was really a great performance from Djokovic. I did not see that Rublev having the slightest chance to win a set. The problems with the thigh from Djokovic seem to have disappeared. But the powerful serve also helped him to run not so much today. That was a good performance. He has already booked the final. Paul will not have a chance. But it will be a great experience for him to play against Djokovic in the semi-final.

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Had a bad record in grandslam quarterfinals 0-6 made Rublev get so depressed and could barely develop his game, didn't expect he would lose so easily to Djokovic and extend his bad record, I thought it would be a 5 set match or at least 4 set but Djokovic always could easily break Rublev's serve and it didn't take long to end this match.

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Djokovic against Rublev must of not been much of a contest.
Just finished watching Tommy Paul's match end but couldn't stay awake to watch the next one. So decided I'll just watch the ending sets of the Novak match when I get up. When I did, they were just clearing up the courts of the equipment.

Djokovic won all three sets and after watching the highlights it was with ease.
So it looks like the problem with his hamstring isn't bothering him at all if he can dismantle a seasoned player like Rublev like that 6-1, 6-2, 6-4.

Let us see if he can make it to the finals of the AO and have the grand slam championship this year so to tie Nadal at 22.

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I also was thinking that Rublev must see the raining field of players and thinks yes
'once I get past Djokovic I will have lesser more beatable players'.

I also share the same concern as you guys, mentally he is not as strong as he needs to be.

Also I think there is a small red flag as to Djokovic' fitness/injury and to how
serious it is if there is one.

That is all true and I just decided to place small bet on Rublev winning it 3:0 @26. Those are some odds and I feel like they have same probability of hitting like simple ML which pays just @6.5. Rublev is winning this in straight sets or loosing as soon as Djoković takes one set. No way Rublev comes on top in close match.

I was also thinking the same that Rublev might have a good chance against Djokovic, but didn't pull the trigger.

And then just surprised to see the Djokovic didn't allow any from Rublev, as he won in 3 straight sets. And from the look of the score, might be easy route for Rublev.

Tsitsipas vs Khachanov, Stefanos the favorite here, but I'm going at the handicap of -3.5 at 1.80.

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Quote from: bct_ail on January 25, 2023, 04:04:11 AM

Tommy Paul is in the second semi-final. He won against his compatriot Ben Shelton after 4 sets. Paul and Shelton played on a very similar level. Individual mistakes decided the match at the end and Shelton made too many. Now Paul will play against Djokovic or Rublev. This match has just started. I am excited and looking forward to the match.

Shelton vs Tommy Paul both played really well in this match, but Tommy Paul played better. yeah, I also agree that individual mistakes decided this match in the end. If he could avoid those mistakes, probably he could give Paul, a few more problems and probably would have eventually won the match as well. In the end, he made enough mistakes. Anyway, I can say that Paul deserved to win the match.

Let's see who Tommy Paul is going to face in the second semi-final.

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Tommy Paul is in the second semi-final. He won against his compatriot Ben Shelton after 4 sets. Paul and Shelton played on a very similar level. Individual mistakes decided the match at the end and Shelton made too many. Now Paul will play against Djokovic or Rublev. This match has just started. I am excited and looking forward to the match.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 25, 2023, 02:25:49 AM

I also was thinking that Rublev must see the raining field of players and thinks yes
'once I get past Djokovic I will have lesser more beatable players'.

I also share the same concern as you guys, mentally he is not as strong as he needs to be.

Also I think there is a small red flag as to Djokovic' fitness/injury and to how
serious it is if there is one.

That is all true and I just decided to place small bet on Rublev winning it 3:0 @26. Those are some odds and I feel like they have same probability of hitting like simple ML which pays just @6.5. Rublev is winning this in straight sets or loosing as soon as Djoković takes one set. No way Rublev comes on top in close match.

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