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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on January 21, 2023, 01:01:41 PM

Murray was empty today. It was great that he still managed to win the 2nd set, but when you see him walking down the track it looks like he could fall down at any moment. He was already close to elimination in the previous round. I don't know in what perspective to put Murray's performance. Would it be a prelude to more successes or was it just incidental? Djokovic suffers a lot from his hamstring injury, but still managed to win convincingly against Dimitrov today. I don't know who his next opponent is but I hope for his sake he gets a few days rest now to let his injury heal if at all possible.

At this point I want Murray to stop putting. So much pressure on himself. And retire. It is actually making me really sad to see him like this. I also thought that between sets when he was walking he might actually fall down. But I have to say he got a big heart because he kept going. However, his body is not as strong as his mind.

Novak Djokovic played really well even though he did have a hamstring injury. He will play against Alex de Minaur. The problem is the match is tomorrow. He really could have used some rest.

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Murray was empty today. It was great that he still managed to win the 2nd set, but when you see him walking down the track it looks like he could fall down at any moment. He was already close to elimination in the previous round. I don't know in what perspective to put Murray's performance. Would it be a prelude to more successes or was it just incidental? Djokovic suffers a lot from his hamstring injury, but still managed to win convincingly against Dimitrov today. I don't know who his next opponent is but I hope for his sake he gets a few days rest now to let his injury heal if at all possible.

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Murray does not look good, he is fighting but he can barley walk between the points at the moment. Sort of expected with two five setters back to back. Would be heroic if he can turn this one as well.
Djoković is wrapping thing up in his usual way, it was a though first set but after that it was all Djoković with just a couple of good points by Dimitrov here and there. By the way Djoković also had some injury problems, this is the best opportunity for many players to actually win Grand Slam title. Just push trough and hope Djoković stumbles along the way, most top players are out already.

Looks like he sustained a knee injury just when he was closing out the first set of this match. His trainers were out right before the second set really working on that knee and it looks like his thigh was wrapped up on that same leg.
But Djokovic does what Djokovic does and soldiered on with a flawless win over Dimitrov.
Murray just lost against Agut but it was an impressive journey for a guy who was planning on retiring back in 2021 when he was saying Wimbledon was going to be his last tournament that same year.
The guy is 35 years old but was winning against guys a decade younger.

Murray really played fantastically in this tournament, beyond all expectations, and reminded us of his best tennis days.
I'm really sorry that he lost today because this was really a wonderful tennis story, the kind that people love.
After previously playing two very long tennis matches in 5 sets, he clearly did not have the strength for another big tennis comeback.
After Nadal and Medvedev dropped out of the tournament, Djokovic seems to have a great chance to win this tournament.
Whether he is really seriously injured or not, probably only he knows.

Murray did not look good at all in this match. RBA won the match relatively easily in the end. And I am also quite certain that he has picked up an injury. He is already 35 years old and if he has picked up any serious injury, I think his career is not going to be very long.

About the Djokovic match, I was not very uncertain. I almost knew that he was going to win this match. He is definitely a very good player and of course, he was better in this match compared to his opponent.

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Quote from: MiliMil on January 21, 2023, 05:01:52 AM

Is novak playing mind games out there?

Maybe he isn't as injured as he wants us to believe? Undecided

Who knows,with him everything is possible. But i think he has an injury but not a bad one. We will see in the next couple of rounds if it is serious or after the tournament. He currently looks unstoppable and looks like he will win the tournament easily.

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Quote from: MiliMil on January 21, 2023, 05:01:52 AM

Is novak playing mind games out there?

Maybe he isn't as injured as he wants us to believe? Undecided

Wouldn't be a first time that Djoković looks like he is barely standing and then magically recovers and wins the match and probably whole tournament. This time it was done a bit differently, less drama involved so I am thinking actual injury but very minor one so far.

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 21, 2023, 11:17:10 AM

Finally great odds on Sinner, he's an outsider against Tsitsipas.
I know he's got a negative H2H and that he lost in straight sets against him here last year, but I'll play both Sinner to win and +3,5h on Sinner.

Both players have been in great form so far during this AO, should be a terrific match.

Without looking at the draws I will go out on a limb and say this is probably the only part of the draw where both seeds came trough and first really interesting match we have this year in AO. H2H is heavy on Tsitsi side but most of those games were played on clay and if I had to choose a surface where Tsitsi should beat Sinner it would be clay. Sinner is also 3 years younger so it is probable that match-up will even up trough time. I believe odds should be even in this match so odds @2.5 on Sinner defiantly have value. Will play on him as well, just ML or set handicap. Game handicap with margin 3.5 means almost nothing in BO5 matches. Too many ways it can go wrong.

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Finally great odds on Sinner, he's an outsider against Tsitsipas.
I know he's got a negative H2H and that he lost in straight sets against him here last year, but I'll play both Sinner to win and +3,5h on Sinner.

Both players have been in great form so far during this AO, should be a terrific match.

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Murray v RBA up soon as well as Dimitrov v Djokovic, hopefully Dimitrov takes the first
set from Djokovic and we get a value bet because it's hard to see Djokovic losing.

Murray does not look good, he is fighting but he can barley walk between the points at the moment. Sort of expected with two five setters back to back. Would be heroic if he can turn this one as well.

Djoković is wrapping thing up in his usual way, it was a though first set but after that it was all Djoković with just a couple of good points by Dimitrov here and there. By the way Djoković also had some injury problems, this is the best opportunity for many players to actually win Grand Slam title. Just push trough and hope Djoković stumbles along the way, most top players are out already.

Looks like he sustained a knee injury just when he was closing out the first set of this match. His trainers were out right before the second set really working on that knee and it looks like his thigh was wrapped up on that same leg.
But Djokovic does what Djokovic does and soldiered on with a flawless win over Dimitrov.
Murray just lost against Agut but it was an impressive journey for a guy who was planning on retiring back in 2021 when he was saying Wimbledon was going to be his last tournament that same year.
The guy is 35 years old but was winning against guys a decade younger.

Murray really played fantastically in this tournament, beyond all expectations, and reminded us of his best tennis days.
I'm really sorry that he lost today because this was really a wonderful tennis story, the kind that people love.
After previously playing two very long tennis matches in 5 sets, he clearly did not have the strength for another big tennis comeback.
After Nadal and Medvedev dropped out of the tournament, Djokovic seems to have a great chance to win this tournament.
Whether he is really seriously injured or not, probably only he knows.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 21, 2023, 04:52:05 AM

Quote from: aoluain on January 21, 2023, 01:34:14 AM

Murray v RBA up soon as well as Dimitrov v Djokovic, hopefully Dimitrov takes the first
set from Djokovic and we get a value bet because it's hard to see Djokovic losing.

Murray does not look good, he is fighting but he can barley walk between the points at the moment. Sort of expected with two five setters back to back. Would be heroic if he can turn this one as well.

Djoković is wrapping thing up in his usual way, it was a though first set but after that it was all Djoković with just a couple of good points by Dimitrov here and there. By the way Djoković also had some injury problems, this is the best opportunity for many players to actually win Grand Slam title. Just push trough and hope Djoković stumbles along the way, most top players are out already.

Looks like he sustained a knee injury just when he was closing out the first set of this match. His trainers were out right before the second set really working on that knee and it looks like his thigh was wrapped up on that same leg.
But Djokovic does what Djokovic does and soldiered on with a flawless win over Dimitrov.
Murray just lost against Agut but it was an impressive journey for a guy who was planning on retiring back in 2021 when he was saying Wimbledon was going to be his last tournament that same year.
The guy is 35 years old but was winning against guys a decade younger.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 21, 2023, 01:34:14 AM

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Cannot believe Medvedev is out, well done to Korda.
I believe Medvedev is becoming a very average player, he hasn't really been able to build
on his success of 2021.

Murray v RBA up soon as well as Dimitrov v Djokovic, hopefully Dimitrov takes the first
set from Djokovic and we get a value bet because it's hard to see Djokovic losing.

Gallant effort by Dimitrov in the first set, but Djokovic didn't get an inch and won in a tie break. I thought he will give Dimitrov some breather in the first, but maybe he doesn't want to extend and he need to take a rest, 2 sets to nil, and most probably he will end the 3rd set as well as he is 4-1 ahead.

I agree with @Trofo, Murray doesn't look good and I don't know how he can survived against Agut, but it seems he still had the second wind, he is up 2-0 in the 4th set and server. So let's see if he has some magic and heroic comeback once more.

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Is novak playing mind games out there?

Maybe he isn't as injured as he wants us to believe? Undecided

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Quote from: aoluain on January 21, 2023, 01:34:14 AM

Murray v RBA up soon as well as Dimitrov v Djokovic, hopefully Dimitrov takes the first
set from Djokovic and we get a value bet because it's hard to see Djokovic losing.

Murray does not look good, he is fighting but he can barley walk between the points at the moment. Sort of expected with two five setters back to back. Would be heroic if he can turn this one as well.

Djoković is wrapping thing up in his usual way, it was a though first set but after that it was all Djoković with just a couple of good points by Dimitrov here and there. By the way Djoković also had some injury problems, this is the best opportunity for many players to actually win Grand Slam title. Just push trough and hope Djoković stumbles along the way, most top players are out already.

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Cannot believe Medvedev is out, well done to Korda.
I believe Medvedev is becoming a very average player, he hasn't really been able to build
on his success of 2021.

Murray v RBA up soon as well as Dimitrov v Djokovic, hopefully Dimitrov takes the first
set from Djokovic and we get a value bet because it's hard to see Djokovic losing.

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Right now Medvedev is playing against Korda. It is quite impressive that even Medvedev, one of the top players, does not have it so easy. Korda won the first set in a tiebreak and he is on his way to win the second set as well. It seems that many good players and favourites will not have it so easy after all. But just like the in game from Sinner it could also comes down to the "5 set" mentality in the end.

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I thought Fucsovics might trouble him a bit but did not expect Sinner to go 2 sets down.
Still, quite an impressive comeback, to win 3 sets while losing only 3 games is something you don't see that often.

Murray's was the story of the day though, I am really happy he finally seems to be playing without pain. I always liked the guy.

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Quote from: Joca97 on January 19, 2023, 07:53:23 PM

Well we are used to Djokovic losing one set at grand slams in the first couple of rounds. He always losses one set them dominates the opponents. Djokovic lost the second set then destroyed his opponent but what is worring is that he has that injury and hopefully it wont slow him down. Next match against Dimitrov will be intense.

Djokovic always seems to struggle sometimes but everything will return to his level unless his opponent can really make him down, an injury will make him doubtful when he is in the 3rd round, quarterfinals and so on because he will start to face tougher opponents as it will be against Dimitrov later but from H2H Djokovic is far superior.

Sinner 2 set down from Fucsovic was quite surprising even though in the next set he played better and ended up winning the match.

That was impressive by Sinner to drop the first two sets against Fucsovics and
come back to win the final 3 sets 1-6, 2-6 and 0-6 - fairly easy in the end.

That's the "5 set" mentality, one one side, the player may not have the strength to
carry the momentum into the third set after winning the first two and on the other
side a player has to more or less play a 3 set match and has the mental strength
to do so.

Sinner has been quietly going about his business these are the first two sets he
has dropped so far.

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Yea unbelievable by Murray, that was a 5 hour 45 minute match, a bit of a marathon really.
Murray's next match against Roberto Bautista Agut has to be compromised now for sure,
how much does he have left? is a big question.

Did anyone pick up any decent odds on Djokovic today after he dropped the second set
tie break against Couacaud today?

On the WTA side Ons got beaten today by Vondrousova kind of easy enough, 6-1, 5-7, 6-1
Betting on the women's side really is tricky.

I've been following this game for a long time. It was still a miracle that Djokovic lost the 2nd set, as he also led 5-4 in the Tiebreak, but then lost 2 serves in a row. If you want to know the odds when it was 1-1 in sets, I think you would get something around 1.1 for a Djokovic win. That's all it will be. From that moment on, Djokovic was very strong again and he only lost 2 more games. the 7-6 tiebreak thus seemed to be something of an incident. There are a lot of parties going on every day. I also read that a number of matches had been moved due to rain. I always thought it was sunny there and great tennis weather? No Wimbledon rain anyway.

Well we are used to Djokovic losing one set at grand slams in the first couple of rounds. He always losses one set them dominates the opponents. Djokovic lost the second set then destroyed his opponent but what is worring is that he has that injury and hopefully it wont slow him down. Next match against Dimitrov will be intense.

Yes, and we have also discussed i Djokovic is doing it intentionally, I mean losing a set in GS and then totally destroyed his opponents in the next couple of rounds. I think that's more destroying your opponent mentally that's why they were not able to recover after that.

Dmitrov will be a tough match for Djokovic is he is injured. And even if he won this and advance, he will have to find a way to overcome it.

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Quote from: Joca97 on January 19, 2023, 07:53:23 PM

Well we are used to Djokovic losing one set at grand slams in the first couple of rounds. He always losses one set them dominates the opponents. Djokovic lost the second set then destroyed his opponent but what is worring is that he has that injury and hopefully it wont slow him down. Next match against Dimitrov will be intense.

Djokovic always seems to struggle sometimes but everything will return to his level unless his opponent can really make him down, an injury will make him doubtful when he is in the 3rd round, quarterfinals and so on because he will start to face tougher opponents as it will be against Dimitrov later but from H2H Djokovic is far superior.

Sinner 2 set down from Fucsovic was quite surprising even though in the next set he played better and ended up winning the match.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 19, 2023, 01:18:15 PM

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Yea unbelievable by Murray, that was a 5 hour 45 minute match, a bit of a marathon really.
Murray's next match against Roberto Bautista Agut has to be compromised now for sure,
how much does he have left? is a big question.

Did anyone pick up any decent odds on Djokovic today after he dropped the second set
tie break against Couacaud today?

On the WTA side Ons got beaten today by Vondrousova kind of easy enough, 6-1, 5-7, 6-1
Betting on the women's side really is tricky.

I've been following this game for a long time. It was still a miracle that Djokovic lost the 2nd set, as he also led 5-4 in the Tiebreak, but then lost 2 serves in a row. If you want to know the odds when it was 1-1 in sets, I think you would get something around 1.1 for a Djokovic win. That's all it will be. From that moment on, Djokovic was very strong again and he only lost 2 more games. the 7-6 tiebreak thus seemed to be something of an incident. There are a lot of parties going on every day. I also read that a number of matches had been moved due to rain. I always thought it was sunny there and great tennis weather? No Wimbledon rain anyway.

Well we are used to Djokovic losing one set at grand slams in the first couple of rounds. He always losses one set them dominates the opponents. Djokovic lost the second set then destroyed his opponent but what is worring is that he has that injury and hopefully it wont slow him down. Next match against Dimitrov will be intense.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 19, 2023, 01:18:15 PM

^

Yea unbelievable by Murray, that was a 5 hour 45 minute match, a bit of a marathon really.
Murray's next match against Roberto Bautista Agut has to be compromised now for sure,
how much does he have left? is a big question.

Did anyone pick up any decent odds on Djokovic today after he dropped the second set
tie break against Couacaud today?

On the WTA side Ons got beaten today by Vondrousova kind of easy enough, 6-1, 5-7, 6-1
Betting on the women's side really is tricky.

I've been following this game for a long time. It was still a miracle that Djokovic lost the 2nd set, as he also led 5-4 in the Tiebreak, but then lost 2 serves in a row. If you want to know the odds when it was 1-1 in sets, I think you would get something around 1.1 for a Djokovic win. That's all it will be. From that moment on, Djokovic was very strong again and he only lost 2 more games. the 7-6 tiebreak thus seemed to be something of an incident. There are a lot of parties going on every day. I also read that a number of matches had been moved due to rain. I always thought it was sunny there and great tennis weather? No Wimbledon rain anyway.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 19, 2023, 01:18:15 PM

On the WTA side Ons got beaten today by Vondrousova kind of easy enough, 6-1, 5-7, 6-1
Betting on the women's side really is tricky.

Let's see Cristina Bucsa, #100 against #1. But she won with Andreescu... They never played agains each other before, so hard to say anything except their own records.

I do not expect any extraordinary surprise, Swiatek seems to be going easily for the next title. But if you ask me if it makes sense to bet any money on her, I would say no, I do not like situations when we have clearly defined favourite, to easy to be mistaken.

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