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Quote from: Joca97 on December 30, 2022, 10:43:13 AM

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Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

Could be, we are already in 2022 era, so most likely this old guard will have to retire because they have max their potential already. To the point that when they tried, their body is no longer responding to them, the way we see on Federer and then it starts to deteriorate, wear and tear on this body caught up with the. But the good news is that we have a new set of players going to take over from them.

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

I agree, by leaps and bounds, sure in 2022 he had a break out run, but Alcaraz would dominate next year just like Djokovic did when he was younger. So it's good to see the old and the young generations fighting it out in any of the Grand Slams for next year.

That is something to really look forward to. The older generation and the next generation are playing at a better level than they did 10 years ago. The older players are losing their energy more slowly than the players 10 years ago. I always find it interesting to see how a new generation grows up and how the older players slowly understand that their time is over.

We only have the last 2 standing, Federer has retired and it seems that Rafa might be the next one, his body is also not doing good specially in the surface that he specialized because it really put a lot of stress.

So it might just be Djokovic against all new comers, he could be good for at least 2 years to battle and fought against the young generations lead by Alcaraz. So definitely next year will be an litmus test for them against Djokovic and to some extend Nadal if he can still play at clay.

@kemarit I strongly believe that Nadal and Djokovic will both play at least for one more year, but in 2024 either one of them or both could possibly call it quits as their bodies are barely keeping up these days. Furthermore I’m keen to see who’ll be the long term champion, because so far I don’t see any consistency in the current set of player’s and which makes me wonder if the records set by these 3 will ever be broken?.

Djokovic is honestly in much better shape then Nadal is. Djokovic is on his diets and his body can recover much faster and dosent have any injuries at all. While Nadals foot injury is fatal for him . So i think Djokovic can play for 3-4 years more while Nadal has maybe even just this year left.

That's true. In terms of fitness Djokovic stands high. The injuries Djokovic have got over the years is less compared to that of Nadal. Once Nadal was dominant and later he missed his momentum. From that point he wasn't able to take it back and he nowadays plays simple and never force himself hard.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 30, 2022, 07:52:43 AM

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Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

Could be, we are already in 2022 era, so most likely this old guard will have to retire because they have max their potential already. To the point that when they tried, their body is no longer responding to them, the way we see on Federer and then it starts to deteriorate, wear and tear on this body caught up with the. But the good news is that we have a new set of players going to take over from them.

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

I agree, by leaps and bounds, sure in 2022 he had a break out run, but Alcaraz would dominate next year just like Djokovic did when he was younger. So it's good to see the old and the young generations fighting it out in any of the Grand Slams for next year.

That is something to really look forward to. The older generation and the next generation are playing at a better level than they did 10 years ago. The older players are losing their energy more slowly than the players 10 years ago. I always find it interesting to see how a new generation grows up and how the older players slowly understand that their time is over.

We only have the last 2 standing, Federer has retired and it seems that Rafa might be the next one, his body is also not doing good specially in the surface that he specialized because it really put a lot of stress.

So it might just be Djokovic against all new comers, he could be good for at least 2 years to battle and fought against the young generations lead by Alcaraz. So definitely next year will be an litmus test for them against Djokovic and to some extend Nadal if he can still play at clay.

@kemarit I strongly believe that Nadal and Djokovic will both play at least for one more year, but in 2024 either one of them or both could possibly call it quits as their bodies are barely keeping up these days. Furthermore I’m keen to see who’ll be the long term champion, because so far I don’t see any consistency in the current set of player’s and which makes me wonder if the records set by these 3 will ever be broken?.

Djokovic is honestly in much better shape then Nadal is. Djokovic is on his diets and his body can recover much faster and dosent have any injuries at all. While Nadals foot injury is fatal for him . So i think Djokovic can play for 3-4 years more while Nadal has maybe even just this year left.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 30, 2022, 07:52:43 AM

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Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

Could be, we are already in 2022 era, so most likely this old guard will have to retire because they have max their potential already. To the point that when they tried, their body is no longer responding to them, the way we see on Federer and then it starts to deteriorate, wear and tear on this body caught up with the. But the good news is that we have a new set of players going to take over from them.

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

I agree, by leaps and bounds, sure in 2022 he had a break out run, but Alcaraz would dominate next year just like Djokovic did when he was younger. So it's good to see the old and the young generations fighting it out in any of the Grand Slams for next year.

That is something to really look forward to. The older generation and the next generation are playing at a better level than they did 10 years ago. The older players are losing their energy more slowly than the players 10 years ago. I always find it interesting to see how a new generation grows up and how the older players slowly understand that their time is over.

We only have the last 2 standing, Federer has retired and it seems that Rafa might be the next one, his body is also not doing good specially in the surface that he specialized because it really put a lot of stress.

So it might just be Djokovic against all new comers, he could be good for at least 2 years to battle and fought against the young generations lead by Alcaraz. So definitely next year will be an litmus test for them against Djokovic and to some extend Nadal if he can still play at clay.

@kemarit I strongly believe that Nadal and Djokovic will both play at least for one more year, but in 2024 either one of them or both could possibly call it quits as their bodies are barely keeping up these days. Furthermore I’m keen to see who’ll be the long term champion, because so far I don’t see any consistency in the current set of player’s and which makes me wonder if the records set by these 3 will ever be broken?.

For me it will be Djokovic who might stay a bit as obviously he is the younger of the big 3 and his worst injury if I'm not mistaken was in 2019, but he was able to come back win another slam and it was smooth sailing for him tennis wise, (not decision wise though like his covid stance).

As for the new set of players, again this is just me, it could still be Alcaraz, and he could be the most consistent of this new breed of players who wants to take over as the news set of big 3. But I do agree though, consistency will be the key for them to stay on top and be competitive.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 30, 2022, 07:13:24 AM

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Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

Could be, we are already in 2022 era, so most likely this old guard will have to retire because they have max their potential already. To the point that when they tried, their body is no longer responding to them, the way we see on Federer and then it starts to deteriorate, wear and tear on this body caught up with the. But the good news is that we have a new set of players going to take over from them.

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

I agree, by leaps and bounds, sure in 2022 he had a break out run, but Alcaraz would dominate next year just like Djokovic did when he was younger. So it's good to see the old and the young generations fighting it out in any of the Grand Slams for next year.

That is something to really look forward to. The older generation and the next generation are playing at a better level than they did 10 years ago. The older players are losing their energy more slowly than the players 10 years ago. I always find it interesting to see how a new generation grows up and how the older players slowly understand that their time is over.

We only have the last 2 standing, Federer has retired and it seems that Rafa might be the next one, his body is also not doing good specially in the surface that he specialized because it really put a lot of stress.

So it might just be Djokovic against all new comers, he could be good for at least 2 years to battle and fought against the young generations lead by Alcaraz. So definitely next year will be an litmus test for them against Djokovic and to some extend Nadal if he can still play at clay.

@kemarit I strongly believe that Nadal and Djokovic will both play at least for one more year, but in 2024 either one of them or both could possibly call it quits as their bodies are barely keeping up these days. Furthermore I’m keen to see who’ll be the long term champion, because so far I don’t see any consistency in the current set of player’s and which makes me wonder if the records set by these 3 will ever be broken?.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

Could be, we are already in 2022 era, so most likely this old guard will have to retire because they have max their potential already. To the point that when they tried, their body is no longer responding to them, the way we see on Federer and then it starts to deteriorate, wear and tear on this body caught up with the. But the good news is that we have a new set of players going to take over from them.

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

I agree, by leaps and bounds, sure in 2022 he had a break out run, but Alcaraz would dominate next year just like Djokovic did when he was younger. So it's good to see the old and the young generations fighting it out in any of the Grand Slams for next year.

That is something to really look forward to. The older generation and the next generation are playing at a better level than they did 10 years ago. The older players are losing their energy more slowly than the players 10 years ago. I always find it interesting to see how a new generation grows up and how the older players slowly understand that their time is over.

We only have the last 2 standing, Federer has retired and it seems that Rafa might be the next one, his body is also not doing good specially in the surface that he specialized because it really put a lot of stress.

So it might just be Djokovic against all new comers, he could be good for at least 2 years to battle and fought against the young generations lead by Alcaraz. So definitely next year will be an litmus test for them against Djokovic and to some extend Nadal if he can still play at clay.

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Quote from: sempak on December 16, 2022, 03:12:24 PM

I am not easily concerned about Djokovic's health. And corona now also seems to have largely disappeared from the face of the earth. This means that we no longer have to work with certain vaccinations. That would be very beneficial for Djokovic, as I don't think he will be vaccinated again. So if Corona comes back, we can be pretty sure that Djokovic will be banned from certain tournaments again. Own choice and own responsibility of course. But he has an exemplary role and has made quite a mess.

Wasn't Djokovic banned from attending the Australian Open for atleast 2023 season?
Thought I seen him mentioning at a press conference earlier today talking about playing in this one.
But he can't appeal with the ATP to attend and play at a tournament that he has been previously banned from could he?

He was barred from entering the country until 2025 after being deported this year but
back in November I think that order was reversed and he is allowed back for the 2023
season. I recon there will be mixed reaction to this closer to the tournament, I would say
this has been missed by a lot of Tennis enthusiasts.

Yes, but I think Djokovic status has been reversed, so he is allowed for next year and obviously he is going to compete. And with the Corona virus outbreak almost a foregone conclusion one and Djokovic sticking to his believed on Covid flu shot that makes him very controversial and affected his tennis to some countries including Australia, I think it has been settled already.

So come next year I'm expecting Djokovic to be battle ready in the next Australian Open, sort of revenge time for him and with the new generations, it will be a great battle.

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Quote from: sempak on December 16, 2022, 03:12:24 PM

I am not easily concerned about Djokovic's health. And corona now also seems to have largely disappeared from the face of the earth. This means that we no longer have to work with certain vaccinations. That would be very beneficial for Djokovic, as I don't think he will be vaccinated again. So if Corona comes back, we can be pretty sure that Djokovic will be banned from certain tournaments again. Own choice and own responsibility of course. But he has an exemplary role and has made quite a mess.

Wasn't Djokovic banned from attending the Australian Open for atleast 2023 season?
Thought I seen him mentioning at a press conference earlier today talking about playing in this one.
But he can't appeal with the ATP to attend and play at a tournament that he has been previously banned from could he?

He was barred from entering the country until 2025 after being deported this year but
back in November I think that order was reversed and he is allowed back for the 2023
season. I recon there will be mixed reaction to this closer to the tournament, I would say
this has been missed by a lot of Tennis enthusiasts.

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Quote from: sempak on December 16, 2022, 03:12:24 PM

I am not easily concerned about Djokovic's health. And corona now also seems to have largely disappeared from the face of the earth. This means that we no longer have to work with certain vaccinations. That would be very beneficial for Djokovic, as I don't think he will be vaccinated again. So if Corona comes back, we can be pretty sure that Djokovic will be banned from certain tournaments again. Own choice and own responsibility of course. But he has an exemplary role and has made quite a mess.

Wasn't Djokovic banned from attending the Australian Open for atleast 2023 season?
Thought I seen him mentioning at a press conference earlier today talking about playing in this one.
But he can't appeal with the ATP to attend and play at a tournament that he has been previously banned from could he?

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I haven't paid too much attention to the United Cup before. It seems like the players play
in teams per country. Kyrgios was indeed set to play but has pulled out, which is a bit
of a shocker I think.

Everyone knows he doesn't play a full season, he skips tournaments but was expected
to play this as it's a home tournament.

Yes, the format is really interesting. But the last minute cancellation of Kyrgios is not good. I read that he got an injury on his foot at the tournament in Dubai and it is probably not completely healed yet. So of course it is better if he does not play to be fit and healthy for the Australian Open.

Injuries were big problem with every sportsman. This break could keep him from Australian Open and we don't know how long his rest gets continued. The worst part, after recovery it takes him little time to make himself with a comeback. The form once disturbed out of injury is a big setback for the player.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 28, 2022, 07:27:17 PM

I haven't paid too much attention to the United Cup before. It seems like the players play
in teams per country. Kyrgios was indeed set to play but has pulled out, which is a bit
of a shocker I think.

Everyone knows he doesn't play a full season, he skips tournaments but was expected
to play this as it's a home tournament.

Yes, the format is really interesting. But the last minute cancellation of Kyrgios is not good. I read that he got an injury on his foot at the tournament in Dubai and it is probably not completely healed yet. So of course it is better if he does not play to be fit and healthy for the Australian Open.

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The indirect successor of the Hopman Cup in Australia starts at Thursday. Some interesting players starts at the United Cup and use this tournament as preparation for the Australian Open. One of them is Alexander Zverev who will be back in action after his injury. Furthermore, Kyrgios will be there, who of course, as an Australian, cannot be missed. His first match will be against Norrie.

It is going to be exciting to watch how Kyrgios performs during the tournament. There is no doubt that the players will use this as a warm-up for the Australian Open. Alexander Zverev is going to be very determined to prove that he is still the number one player in the world after suffering that injury. I am looking forward to seeing him perform well at the Hopman Cup next season.

Kyrgios is expected to win his first match against Norrie, according to my predictions.

Take a look at my previous post it renders your predictions void!

The first set of matches have started, USA v CZE. USA with Fritz and Keys win 2-0.

This is an interesting tournament being a mixed gender team event.

Having a quick look at the betting format on Rollbit, it looks like there are bets possible
on country v country and on the players themselves.

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Quote from: bct_ail on December 27, 2022, 06:20:40 PM

The indirect successor of the Hopman Cup in Australia starts at Thursday. Some interesting players starts at the United Cup and use this tournament as preparation for the Australian Open. One of them is Alexander Zverev who will be back in action after his injury. Furthermore, Kyrgios will be there, who of course, as an Australian, cannot be missed. His first match will be against Norrie.

It is going to be exciting to watch how Kyrgios performs during the tournament. There is no doubt that the players will use this as a warm-up for the Australian Open. Alexander Zverev is going to be very determined to prove that he is still the number one player in the world after suffering that injury. I am looking forward to seeing him perform well at the Hopman Cup next season.

Kyrgios is expected to win his first match against Norrie, according to my predictions.

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I haven't paid too much attention to the United Cup before. It seems like the players play
in teams per country. Kyrgios was indeed set to play but has pulled out, which is a bit
of a shocker I think.

Everyone knows he doesn't play a full season, he skips tournaments but was expected
to play this as it's a home tournament.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/dec/28/nick-kyrgios-stuns-united-cup-teammates-by-withdrawing-at-11th-hour

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World No 22 Kyrgios was expected to spearhead the Australian team, facing Great Britain’s
Cameron Norrie in Sydney on Thursday night, but withdrew from the mixed-gender
tournament just before Wednesday’s scheduled press conference.

Kyrgios was also due to play Rafael Nadal in the most eagerly anticipated match-up
of the event when Australia meet Spain next week.

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The indirect successor of the Hopman Cup in Australia starts at Thursday. Some interesting players starts at the United Cup and use this tournament as preparation for the Australian Open. One of them is Alexander Zverev who will be back in action after his injury. Furthermore, Kyrgios will be there, who of course, as an Australian, cannot be missed. His first match will be against Norrie.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on December 26, 2022, 06:57:34 PM

Quote from: KennyR on December 26, 2022, 05:09:47 PM

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

2023 will be even better for Alcaraz. Born after 2000 and reaching the No.1 position is really big thing in Tennis. When we talk of the experience from Djokovic, he have got almost double the years of Alcaraz age. So, the matches will be between the experience and the young ones. For now one match is being faced by the two. So, upcoming matches between them will have big expectation.

I'm expecting 2023 to be a really exciting season for tennis, a lot of players will be back and probably play more than they did in 2022, we didn't see a lot from Alexander Zverev and Dominik thiem who were on fire before, injuries and the pandemic really ruined it for them, but I'm expecting them to get back strong next yea for sure.

Yea it should be a massive year with things more or less back to normal and big players
back in action again, Djokovic^unrestricted, Zverev and Thiem, Nadal should
be fresh.

Hard court season starts next week in Adelaide Australia ending on the 8th and the first
GS of the season starting on the 16th. Can't wait!

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Quote from: Rabi3 on December 26, 2022, 06:57:34 PM

Quote from: KennyR on December 26, 2022, 05:09:47 PM

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

2023 will be even better for Alcaraz. Born after 2000 and reaching the No.1 position is really big thing in Tennis. When we talk of the experience from Djokovic, he have got almost double the years of Alcaraz age. So, the matches will be between the experience and the young ones. For now one match is being faced by the two. So, upcoming matches between them will have big expectation.

I'm expecting 2023 to be a really exciting season for tennis, a lot of players will be back and probably play more than they did in 2022, we didn't see a lot from Alexander Zverev and Dominik thiem who were on fire before, injuries and the pandemic really ruined it for them, but I'm expecting them to get back strong next yea for sure.

Injuries were common with the players and mostly they'll recover physically at the earliest. The difficulty arises coming back to the form. Most of the players will be in good form before the injury and after recovering from the injury it takes them lot of time to comeback to the form. Once again the pandemic situation have shut the normal moving condition in few countries. We don't know how far the restrictions gonna get implemented.

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Quote from: KennyR on December 26, 2022, 05:09:47 PM

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

2023 will be even better for Alcaraz. Born after 2000 and reaching the No.1 position is really big thing in Tennis. When we talk of the experience from Djokovic, he have got almost double the years of Alcaraz age. So, the matches will be between the experience and the young ones. For now one match is being faced by the two. So, upcoming matches between them will have big expectation.

I'm expecting 2023 to be a really exciting season for tennis, a lot of players will be back and probably play more than they did in 2022, we didn't see a lot from Alexander Zverev and Dominik thiem who were on fire before, injuries and the pandemic really ruined it for them, but I'm expecting them to get back strong next yea for sure.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 26, 2022, 04:42:14 AM

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

Could be, we are already in 2022 era, so most likely this old guard will have to retire because they have max their potential already. To the point that when they tried, their body is no longer responding to them, the way we see on Federer and then it starts to deteriorate, wear and tear on this body caught up with the. But the good news is that we have a new set of players going to take over from them.

Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

I agree, by leaps and bounds, sure in 2022 he had a break out run, but Alcaraz would dominate next year just like Djokovic did when he was younger. So it's good to see the old and the young generations fighting it out in any of the Grand Slams for next year.

That is something to really look forward to. The older generation and the next generation are playing at a better level than they did 10 years ago. The older players are losing their energy more slowly than the players 10 years ago. I always find it interesting to see how a new generation grows up and how the older players slowly understand that their time is over.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 26, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Theoretically the way I look at it is that Nadal and Djokovic have pretty much developed their
game to the max whereas the younger generation and in particular Alcaraz are still developing.

I would like to think that Alcaraz in 2023 will be much better than 2022 and should pose more
of a threat to everyone including Djokovic.

2023 will be even better for Alcaraz. Born after 2000 and reaching the No.1 position is really big thing in Tennis. When we talk of the experience from Djokovic, he have got almost double the years of Alcaraz age. So, the matches will be between the experience and the young ones. For now one match is being faced by the two. So, upcoming matches between them will have big expectation.

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