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Quote from: aoluain on November 16, 2022, 05:46:41 AM

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I think Djokovic will win, he will be super psyched about his news from yesterday regarding AO,
so I might do an in play bet if Rublev takes the lead...

have to say that I did not expect to see Djokovic this good, but he looked today as in best days, cannot see someone to take him down on this Masters

AO visa issues are now gone, and he could see himself another GS title as well, looking at Nadal play here, Djokovic is pruned to overcome him in GS numbers next year

Me neither, I cannot see anyone beating him, as I said earlier it is like he is at the top
of his game ATM. His mental state and belief are 100%

I believe his 2023 season has got underway since that AO news!

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Maybe his age is finally affecting his performance, I don't know. But this performance from him certainly did not feel like the Rafael Nadal we all know.

Nadal himself said after his elimination that he is currently lout of self-confidence and mental strength to play at a high level. But without victories he will have a hard time getting all that back.
He had some problems with his health this year and could not play some tournaments. But he is already 36 and he has noticed himself that the young players have it easier to play.

Self confidence is really big part of Nadal's game and he is nowhere near his best when there is even a little doubt in his mind. That is why he has such good record on Grand Slams, they are played BO5 which gives Nadal time to turn the matches around and they start against opponents that are well below his level. Then after Nadal gets a couple of easy wins he raises his game in each consecutive round and becomes that unbeatable beast that runs his opponents into the ground.

Yes, Nadal is one of those elite players as he can completely turn on the switch in a BO5 games and this opponent didn't know what to do as he thought that Nadal is already down and he is about to win the games against him.

Right now though, we understand if he doesn't have that confidence, he is not getting any younger, his body is battered and bruised. But for sure, it will only take just a game for him to have that mentally again and become a beast.

Of course, his injuries which he is probably constantly carrying will eat away at confidence
especially towards the end of the season.

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Maybe his age is finally affecting his performance, I don't know. But this performance from him certainly did not feel like the Rafael Nadal we all know.

Nadal himself said after his elimination that he is currently lout of self-confidence and mental strength to play at a high level. But without victories he will have a hard time getting all that back.
He had some problems with his health this year and could not play some tournaments. But he is already 36 and he has noticed himself that the young players have it easier to play.

Self confidence is really big part of Nadal's game and he is nowhere near his best when there is even a little doubt in his mind. That is why he has such good record on Grand Slams, they are played BO5 which gives Nadal time to turn the matches around and they start against opponents that are well below his level. Then after Nadal gets a couple of easy wins he raises his game in each consecutive round and becomes that unbeatable beast that runs his opponents into the ground.

Yes, Nadal is one of those elite players as he can completely turn on the switch in a BO5 games and this opponent didn't know what to do as he thought that Nadal is already down and he is about to win the games against him.

Right now though, we understand if he doesn't have that confidence, he is not getting any younger, his body is battered and bruised. But for sure, it will only take just a game for him to have that mentally again and become a beast.

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Quote from: BALIK on November 16, 2022, 01:03:55 PM

Maybe his age is finally affecting his performance, I don't know. But this performance from him certainly did not feel like the Rafael Nadal we all know.

Nadal himself said after his elimination that he is currently lout of self-confidence and mental strength to play at a high level. But without victories he will have a hard time getting all that back.
He had some problems with his health this year and could not play some tournaments. But he is already 36 and he has noticed himself that the young players have it easier to play.

Self confidence is really big part of Nadal's game and he is nowhere near his best when there is even a little doubt in his mind. That is why he has such good record on Grand Slams, they are played BO5 which gives Nadal time to turn the matches around and they start against opponents that are well below his level. Then after Nadal gets a couple of easy wins he raises his game in each consecutive round and becomes that unbeatable beast that runs his opponents into the ground.

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Quote from: BALIK on November 16, 2022, 01:03:55 PM

Maybe his age is finally affecting his performance, I don't know. But this performance from him certainly did not feel like the Rafael Nadal we all know.

Nadal himself said after his elimination that he is currently lout of self-confidence and mental strength to play at a high level. But without victories he will have a hard time getting all that back.
He had some problems with his health this year and could not play some tournaments. But he is already 36 and he has noticed himself that the young players have it easier to play.

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Quote from: bct_ail on November 16, 2022, 02:59:13 AM

Nadal must also have hoped that Ruud would lose. But already after the first set Nadal could say goodbye to the semi-finals. Additional to that it was then clear that Alcaraz would definitely remain number one this year. But Nadal woul not have deserved it either. For long periods of the match against Auger-Aliassime he was simply worse and deserved to lose.
Sets 2 and 3 between Ruud and Fritz were exciting. Fritz really did a lot and gave Ruud some difficulties.

Rudd certainly faced a lot of difficulties from Fritz. In the first set, it felt like Rudd is about to run away with things. Fritz, on the other hand, came back and got him some Herbalife. But in the end, even though he gave some real difficulty to Rudd he still was not able to bring victory for himself.

And Nadal did not play well. So, I think you made a valid point that he did not deserve to reach the next stage of the competition. Maybe his age is finally affecting his performance, I don't know. But this performance from him certainly did not feel like the Rafael Nadal we all know.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 16, 2022, 05:46:41 AM

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I think Djokovic will win, he will be super psyched about his news from yesterday regarding AO,
so I might do an in play bet if Rublev takes the lead...

have to say that I did not expect to see Djokovic this good, but he looked today as in best days, cannot see someone to take him down on this Masters

AO visa issues are now gone, and he could see himself another GS title as well, looking at Nadal play here, Djokovic is pruned to overcome him in GS numbers next year

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 16, 2022, 03:21:59 AM

Tough tournament for Nadal, his 2nd straight set loss against FAA yesterday. He's playing Ruud next, based on recent performances he'll lose that one as well.
He's out and has nothing to play for - and he doesn't even look physically able to cope anymore.

I'll try a cheeky bid on Rublev against Đoković today @3.50 odds. He played well against Medvedev, the odds are attractive although I do expect Đoković to win.

I absolutely agree with you. Nadal has not been playing well at all. And certainly, he is not going to be very confident about his next match as well. Especially after knowing how well his opponent is performing. And I think him not being able to play physically. Well, he’s also because of his age.

Rublev versus Djokovic match is currently going on. Novak Djokovic has taken the first set and looking much more comfortable compared to his opponent.

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Fritz won the second Trofo and my bet on Ruud was good, close enough match, just the
3rd set tie break to decide the winner.

First up tomorrow is Rublev v Medvedev, the commentators on Amazon Prime are
giving Rublev a solid chance at winning, I'm not so sure though.

Second match Medvedev v Tsitsipas, that should be a close one, Medvedev is favourite.

I think you've mistakenly made it Rublev vs Medvedev, which is Rublev vs Novak Djokovic. For now the loss of Novak Djokovic against Rune in the Paris Master's seems to be the reason for the Amazon Prime commentators to fix it a winning for Rublev. In the match between Medvedev and Tsitsipas, it is going to be win for Medvedev though both are almost in a same level based on their recent matches win/loss history.

I did! of course it's Djokovic today

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 16, 2022, 03:21:59 AM

Tough tournament for Nadal, his 2nd straight set loss against FAA yesterday. He's playing Ruud next, based on recent performances he'll lose that one as well.
He's out and has nothing to play for - and he doesn't even look physically able to cope anymore.

I'll try a cheeky bid on Rublev against Đoković today @3.50 odds. He played well against Medvedev, the odds are attractive although I do expect Đoković to win.

Agree that Rublev should be good against Djoković but I wanted a safer bet for higher stake. Looked at handicaps but couldn't find +5.5 that pays decent so ended up playing Rublev to win at least one set @1.9.

Hopefully he will storm Djoković in the beginning and get on scoreboard before breaking apart.

Can't get decent odds either, I was looking at a simple bet on whether there will be a tie break,
around 1.8 for YES but it's too hard to call that one so I will hold fire altogether.

I think Djokovic will win, he will be super psyched about his news from yesterday regarding AO,
so I might do an in play bet if Rublev takes the lead...

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 16, 2022, 03:21:59 AM

Tough tournament for Nadal, his 2nd straight set loss against FAA yesterday. He's playing Ruud next, based on recent performances he'll lose that one as well.
He's out and has nothing to play for - and he doesn't even look physically able to cope anymore.

I'll try a cheeky bid on Rublev against Đoković today @3.50 odds. He played well against Medvedev, the odds are attractive although I do expect Đoković to win.

Agree that Rublev should be good against Djoković but I wanted a safer bet for higher stake. Looked at handicaps but couldn't find +5.5 that pays decent so ended up playing Rublev to win at least one set @1.9.

Hopefully he will storm Djoković in the beginning and get on scoreboard before breaking apart.

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Tough tournament for Nadal, his 2nd straight set loss against FAA yesterday. He's playing Ruud next, based on recent performances he'll lose that one as well.
He's out and has nothing to play for - and he doesn't even look physically able to cope anymore.

I'll try a cheeky bid on Rublev against Đoković today @3.50 odds. He played well against Medvedev, the odds are attractive although I do expect Đoković to win.

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Nadal must also have hoped that Ruud would lose. But already after the first set Nadal could say goodbye to the semi-finals. Additional to that it was then clear that Alcaraz would definitely remain number one this year. But Nadal woul not have deserved it either. For long periods of the match against Auger-Aliassime he was simply worse and deserved to lose.
Sets 2 and 3 between Ruud and Fritz were exciting. Fritz really did a lot and gave Ruud some difficulties.

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Quote from: KennyR on November 15, 2022, 04:28:49 PM

Quote from: aoluain on November 15, 2022, 03:39:28 PM

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Fritz won the second Trofo and my bet on Ruud was good, close enough match, just the
3rd set tie break to decide the winner.

First up tomorrow is Rublev v Medvedev, the commentators on Amazon Prime are
giving Rublev a solid chance at winning, I'm not so sure though.

Second match Medvedev v Tsitsipas, that should be a close one, Medvedev is favourite.

I think you've mistakenly made it Rublev vs Medvedev, which is Rublev vs Novak Djokovic. For now the loss of Novak Djokovic against Rune in the Paris Master's seems to be the reason for the Amazon Prime commentators to fix it a winning for Rublev. In the match between Medvedev and Tsitsipas, it is going to be win for Medvedev though both are almost in a same level based on their recent matches win/loss history.

I don't think that's the reason (didn't read or hear about those comments) but rather Rublev's impressive performance beating Medvedev in his previous match, it's not like how often Djokovic has met Tsitsipas in years or also with Medvedev but with Rublev they only met once this year and won by Rublev and earlier in last year's ATP Finals with Djokovic winning, this could be a long match for them and betting on the over looks good.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 15, 2022, 03:39:28 PM

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Fritz won the second Trofo and my bet on Ruud was good, close enough match, just the
3rd set tie break to decide the winner.

First up tomorrow is Rublev v Medvedev, the commentators on Amazon Prime are
giving Rublev a solid chance at winning, I'm not so sure though.

Second match Medvedev v Tsitsipas, that should be a close one, Medvedev is favourite.

I think you've mistakenly made it Rublev vs Medvedev, which is Rublev vs Novak Djokovic. For now the loss of Novak Djokovic against Rune in the Paris Master's seems to be the reason for the Amazon Prime commentators to fix it a winning for Rublev. In the match between Medvedev and Tsitsipas, it is going to be win for Medvedev though both are almost in a same level based on their recent matches win/loss history.

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Fritz won the second Trofo and my bet on Ruud was good, close enough match, just the
3rd set tie break to decide the winner.

First up tomorrow is Rublev v Medvedev, the commentators on Amazon Prime are
giving Rublev a solid chance at winning, I'm not so sure though.

Second match Medvedev v Tsitsipas, that should be a close one, Medvedev is favourite.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 15, 2022, 10:58:13 AM

Nadal as I said earlier has had 10 appearances here and never won and it looks like he is
out with that loss today.

Match tonight with Ruud v Fritz is a crunch one, both players with wins in their first matches.

Didn't expect much from Nadal in this tournament and we are lucky we are getting such good odds on bets against him. All the guys in his group have the shot power to push trough Nadal defense and I am thinking he will leave this tournament with all three loses.

Ruud took first set against Fritz easier than I expected, my bet on this one is over 23.5 games so I need Fritz to take second set. He looks better in second set so hopefully that will be enough.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 15, 2022, 10:58:13 AM

That's big news for Djokovic, he will be pumped up with that and will be driven for next year.

Good news for Djokovic, the change in government has been in his favor, plus the Australians who were angry with him about visiting their country unvaccinated have moved on. That ban cost him a record, he would have had a chance to win the Australian open for the 10th time, but that was cut short. He will have a shot next year, and I am pretty sure that he will be ready to take his opportunity.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 15, 2022, 08:34:09 AM

In accordance with my prediction that Felix will be able to beat Nadal and it happened in straight sets, it can even be said that Felix did not get too much resistance from Nadal. Nadal continues his bad record in this tournament because this is a tournament he has participated in quite a lot but has never won a trophy.

Great news for Djokovic as his three-year ban on entering Australia has been lifted and he can get a visa for early next year's tournament, the Australian Open.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-15/novak-djokovic-to-be-granted-visa-for-australian-open/101657262

That's big news for Djokovic, he will be pumped up with that and will be driven for next year.

Nadal as I said earlier has had 10 appearances here and never won and it looks like he is
out with that loss today.

Match tonight with Ruud v Fritz is a crunch one, both players with wins in their first matches.

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In accordance with my prediction that Felix will be able to beat Nadal and it happened in straight sets, it can even be said that Felix did not get too much resistance from Nadal. Nadal continues his bad record in this tournament because this is a tournament he has participated in quite a lot but has never won a trophy.

Great news for Djokovic as his three-year ban on entering Australia has been lifted and he can get a visa for early next year's tournament, the Australian Open.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-15/novak-djokovic-to-be-granted-visa-for-australian-open/101657262

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After starting his career with a 4-0 run against Rublev, Medvedev now has 3 consecutive losses against him.
2 of these came in a 3rd set tie-break, which does show that Rublev is currently mentally more stable.

Đoković found it easy against Tsitsipas once again, he has a streak of 10 consecutive wins against him.

It will be interesting to watch today's Nadal - FAA match, both players need a win to stay alive in the competition.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 14, 2022, 11:45:26 PM

Two good line ups today, Nadal v Felix AA, I would give Felix a chance here, he is favourite,
my bet is on at 1.6

and Ruud v Fritz, hard to pick a winner with this one IMO, Fritz is favourite but I took Ruud
at + 1.5

Fritz, FAA and Ruud all had impressive performances this year.
The match between Felix vs Nadal will be very troublesome for Nadal, this can be seen in his several appearances against young players.

Quote from: Slow death on November 15, 2022, 01:56:10 AM

Novak Djokovic - Andrey Rublev

this will be a very interesting game

Odds:

Novak = @1.37
Rublev = @3.25

the bookmakers are giving Novak an advantage and I will bet on Novak, I will put him in my parlay, I believe he will have some difficulties in the game, but it will be something he will overcome

As usual the bookmakers will always consider Djokovic as the favorite because he is not an easy player to beat by anyone, Rublev beat him this year in Belgrade seeing how he played and beat Medvedev in the previous match he has a chance for that

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