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Quote from: aoluain on November 22, 2022, 02:13:24 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on November 21, 2022, 03:51:24 PM

Quote from: aoluain on November 21, 2022, 02:49:51 PM

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Who are going to be his main competitors for each grand slam? Alcaraz, Medvedev, Nadal,
Rune . . . anyone else?

looking at those mentioned, Alcaraz is only one that can disrupt him next year, if he is fit
Medvedev does not stand a chance, Rune won was accidental, and Nadal is pretty close to career end (probably looking to one more RG and nothing more)
from not mentioned, I would count on Zverev, when he is back playing, others are pointing that tennis is a bit in crisis at the moment, there is no much fresh blood

Ah yes, Zverev - I so wasn't factoring him into the mix at all. Yes he is definitely another
who could trouble Djokovic.
I know it's hard to count Rune, I suppose he only came good towards the end of the season
after making a name for himself earlier in the year. He will have to prove himself early on
in 2023, the same with Felix AA.

I am inclined to agree with @casperBGD and would like to say that Alcaraz is probably the only one who can actually trouble Novak Djokovic next year. These two are probably the leading players in the world right now. Actually, in my opinion, I think these two are currently the top two, and no one else is close. Yes, we can say that there are other players who are doing well. But I think those players still have a lot to work through. Nadal is just too old at this point. So I don't believe he will be able to compete at the top level and win consistently.

Quote from: babygun on November 21, 2022, 06:52:39 PM

Alcaraz should indeed be the nr 1 contender for Djokovic but I wouldn't rule out Medvedev also. He came pretty close to win the ATP final last week against Djokovic... I think for Rune it will be too early this year to really shine at the grandslams but you never know.

Novak Djokovic's best content is Alcaraz. Obviously, there are other players like Medvedev and Rune who are playing really well right now. But I think the upper hand belongs to Alcaraz. Don't get me wrong, they are also very capable players and they have very solid skills. However, regardless of them being able to beat Novak Djokovic, they are still going to be in the top tier of players in the world. But I just think Alcaraz is the most appropriate candidate among all of them.

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Quote from: casperBGD on November 21, 2022, 03:51:24 PM

Quote from: aoluain on November 21, 2022, 02:49:51 PM

~snip

Who are going to be his main competitors for each grand slam? Alcaraz, Medvedev, Nadal,
Rune . . . anyone else?

looking at those mentioned, Alcaraz is only one that can disrupt him next year, if he is fit
Medvedev does not stand a chance, Rune won was accidental, and Nadal is pretty close to career end (probably looking to one more RG and nothing more)

from not mentioned, I would count on Zverev, when he is back playing, others are pointing that tennis is a bit in crisis at the moment, there is no much fresh blood

Ah yes, Zverev - I so wasn't factoring him into the mix at all. Yes he is definitely another
who could trouble Djokovic.

I know it's hard to count Rune, I suppose he only came good towards the end of the season
after making a name for himself earlier in the year. He will have to prove himself early on
in 2023, the same with Felix AA.

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Quote from: casperBGD on November 21, 2022, 03:51:24 PM

looking at those mentioned, Alcaraz is only one that can disrupt him next year, if he is fit
Medvedev does not stand a chance, Rune won was accidental, and Nadal is pretty close to career end (probably looking to one more RG and nothing more)

from not mentioned, I would count on Zverev, when he is back playing, others are pointing that tennis is a bit in crisis at the moment, there is no much fresh blood

Alcaraz should indeed be the nr 1 contender for Djokovic but I wouldn't rule out Medvedev also. He came pretty close to win the ATP final last week against Djokovic... I think for Rune it will be too early this year to really shine at the grandslams but you never know.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 21, 2022, 02:49:51 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on November 20, 2022, 07:08:46 PM

Quote from: KennyR on November 20, 2022, 06:57:52 PM

Quote from: Ratash on November 20, 2022, 06:50:22 PM

An easy win today for djokovic against casper Ruud he looked so dominant all tournament long, there no doubt he is the best performer at the moment he has beaten all the top players, too bad nadal didn't made it far so we could see the novak nadal classic.

Novak Djokovic won in the direct sets 7-5 6-3 which looks like the first set going closer. In the second set Ruud have given up. An easy win for Novak Djokovic and he once again proved he's the lead with the 6th ATP Finals Crown.

Like i said yesterday this would be the easiest match for Novak Djokovic and it was. He won easily in straight sets against Ruud that wasnt even close to a break point in this match. Ruud still was in the final and that is a huge result. Novak Djokovic can now rest up and focus on Australian open that is in over 1 month.

And as I said earlier, Djokovic' 2023 season has already started. He is for sure going
to make up in 2023 for lost ground in 2022.

Who are going to be his main competitors for each grand slam? Alcaraz, Medvedev, Nadal,
Rune . . . anyone else?

It is quite hard to make a prediction as the main competitor. All the mentioned players are able ones. However we haven't reached a position to state Alcaraz or Medvedev or the mentioned players will win in this match same as that we say with the matches of Novak Djokovic. When a match is being played between Djokovic and someone else, we can say Djokovic will win the match. So, it is the scenario that decide who is going to be the better competitor.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 21, 2022, 02:49:51 PM

~snip

Who are going to be his main competitors for each grand slam? Alcaraz, Medvedev, Nadal,
Rune . . . anyone else?

looking at those mentioned, Alcaraz is only one that can disrupt him next year, if he is fit
Medvedev does not stand a chance, Rune won was accidental, and Nadal is pretty close to career end (probably looking to one more RG and nothing more)

from not mentioned, I would count on Zverev, when he is back playing, others are pointing that tennis is a bit in crisis at the moment, there is no much fresh blood

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Quote from: Joca97 on November 20, 2022, 07:08:46 PM

Quote from: KennyR on November 20, 2022, 06:57:52 PM

Quote from: Ratash on November 20, 2022, 06:50:22 PM

An easy win today for djokovic against casper Ruud he looked so dominant all tournament long, there no doubt he is the best performer at the moment he has beaten all the top players, too bad nadal didn't made it far so we could see the novak nadal classic.

Novak Djokovic won in the direct sets 7-5 6-3 which looks like the first set going closer. In the second set Ruud have given up. An easy win for Novak Djokovic and he once again proved he's the lead with the 6th ATP Finals Crown.

Like i said yesterday this would be the easiest match for Novak Djokovic and it was. He won easily in straight sets against Ruud that wasnt even close to a break point in this match. Ruud still was in the final and that is a huge result. Novak Djokovic can now rest up and focus on Australian open that is in over 1 month.

And as I said earlier, Djokovic' 2023 season has already started. He is for sure going
to make up in 2023 for lost ground in 2022.

Who are going to be his main competitors for each grand slam? Alcaraz, Medvedev, Nadal,
Rune . . . anyone else?

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Quote from: LGD2Business on November 20, 2022, 06:46:22 PM

I read that he has won 18 of the last 19 games. A great success indeed.

He received some huge bonus of about $4.7 million for not loosing any game in the ATP. Ruud has never won against Djokovic, and Djokovic knowing that entering the game already had the mental advantage over Ruud. Djokovic played the final like a 35 year old man on a mission, he was aggressive and knew exactly how to work Ruud to get his victory. Djokovic's current form is a good sign in anticipation of his return to the Australian Open next year.

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Quote from: Ratash on November 20, 2022, 06:50:22 PM

An easy win today for djokovic against casper Ruud he looked so dominant all tournament long, there no doubt he is the best performer at the moment he has beaten all the top players, too bad nadal didn't made it far so we could see the novak nadal classic.

It was a very difficult year for Novak Djokovic. But in the final against Ruud he showed his best tennis and it was like a message to his competitors. He was well focused and physically fit. His serve, his forehand, everything was perfect. He had to wait 7 years for his world title Number 6. And that at the age of 35.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 20, 2022, 06:38:46 PM

I don't think I'll be backing Ruud in the near future, as Trofo suggests it's hard to see anything
extraordinary in his game.

His individual ranking is quite good because this year's achievements are good for him but indeed his game is not too special, it's easy enough for his opponents to read his game flow.

Quote from: LGD2Business on November 20, 2022, 06:46:22 PM

Novak Djokovic beat Casper Ruud and won his sixth ATP Finals title. In this way, he shares the top of the list with Federer in the list of winners of the most ATP championships. It was an easy bet for the people who bet on him. Djokovic is also the oldest person to win this trophy. Although he is 35 years old, he still plays at the top level. If he plays like this for 2 more years, he will break all tennis records. As long as Djokovic's performance goes like this, I wouldn't hesitate to bet on him. Even though the odds are low, the man wins almost every match. I read that he has won 18 of the last 19 games. A great success indeed.

With the pandemic rules that will no longer prevent him from playing in many countries especially the 4 Grand Slams next year, there will be many new records for him could achieve, and his main competitors will be young players one of which is Rune who beat him at the Paris Masters.

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Quote from: KennyR on November 20, 2022, 06:57:52 PM

Quote from: Ratash on November 20, 2022, 06:50:22 PM

An easy win today for djokovic against casper Ruud he looked so dominant all tournament long, there no doubt he is the best performer at the moment he has beaten all the top players, too bad nadal didn't made it far so we could see the novak nadal classic.

Novak Djokovic won in the direct sets 7-5 6-3 which looks like the first set going closer. In the second set Ruud have given up. An easy win for Novak Djokovic and he once again proved he's the lead with the 6th ATP Finals Crown.

Like i said yesterday this would be the easiest match for Novak Djokovic and it was. He won easily in straight sets against Ruud that wasnt even close to a break point in this match. Ruud still was in the final and that is a huge result. Novak Djokovic can now rest up and focus on Australian open that is in over 1 month.

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Quote from: Ratash on November 20, 2022, 06:50:22 PM

An easy win today for djokovic against casper Ruud he looked so dominant all tournament long, there no doubt he is the best performer at the moment he has beaten all the top players, too bad nadal didn't made it far so we could see the novak nadal classic.

Novak Djokovic won in the direct sets 7-5 6-3 which looks like the first set going closer. In the second set Ruud have given up. An easy win for Novak Djokovic and he once again proved he's the lead with the 6th ATP Finals Crown.

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An easy win today for djokovic against casper Ruud he looked so dominant all tournament long, there no doubt he is the best performer at the moment he has beaten all the top players, too bad nadal didn't made it far so we could see the novak nadal classic.

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Novak Djokovic beat Casper Ruud and won his sixth ATP Finals title. In this way, he shares the top of the list with Federer in the list of winners of the most ATP championships. It was an easy bet for the people who bet on him. Djokovic is also the oldest person to win this trophy. Although he is 35 years old, he still plays at the top level. If he plays like this for 2 more years, he will break all tennis records. As long as Djokovic's performance goes like this, I wouldn't hesitate to bet on him. Even though the odds are low, the man wins almost every match. I read that he has won 18 of the last 19 games. A great success indeed.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 20, 2022, 02:30:47 PM

Quote from: aoluain on November 20, 2022, 02:17:10 PM

Although Novak was complaining of not feeling well early in the first set....are they just mind games?

He already looked unwell against Medvedev, Likewise, when played against Fritz looked so tired, but wasn't sure what he was going through.
He was already leading in the second set there was no doubt he would win this match and lift the trophy to close the year very weill.

Well whatever was wrong it didn't have too much of an affect on him at all, he win that
second set quite easy really. The only player who can seriously challenge him was
Medvedev, he was the only one who took a set from him!

I don't think I'll be backing Ruud in the near future, as Trofo suggests it's hard to see anything
extraordinary in his game.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 20, 2022, 02:17:10 PM

Although Novak was complaining of not feeling well early in the first set....are they just mind games?

He already looked unwell against Medvedev, Likewise, when played against Fritz looked so tired, but wasn't sure what he was going through.
He was already leading in the second set there was no doubt he would win this match and lift the trophy to close the year very weill.

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Well Trofo, Novak has the first set and I see what you mean about Ruud. He is very level
headed and doesn't seem to do anything exceptionally great. I suppose we could call him
Steady!

I think your bet is safe, mine....not so sure.
Although Novak was complaining of not feeling well early in the first set....are they just mind games?

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 20, 2022, 07:45:05 AM

I watched the key moments in the Đoković - Fritz match - Đoković's mental strength showed how important it is once again.
Fritz had an advantage in the 1st tie-break, and served for the 2nd set. The result? He lost 2-0.

Đoković will be a big favorite tonight - Ruud is without a set won in their 3 matches so far.

I had a -3.5 handicap on Djokovic, I now realise I should have gone with Fritz, hindsight
is 20/20 vision of course. I have gone for Ruud in the final +4.5 @ 1.59. I think Djokovic will
win but hopefully it will be a close 2 set affair.

I have lost most of my bets that included Rudd this season. I just don't see what he has in his game to get the results he is getting other than better mental state then most of his opponents. But no matter how good he is in the head, Djoković is the absolute champion of mind games. I really don't see how Ruud can win tonight but he will probably find a way to do it and kill my extra high stake bet where I am waiting only for Djoković.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 20, 2022, 07:45:05 AM

I watched the key moments in the Đoković - Fritz match - Đoković's mental strength showed how important it is once again.
Fritz had an advantage in the 1st tie-break, and served for the 2nd set. The result? He lost 2-0.

Đoković will be a big favorite tonight - Ruud is without a set won in their 3 matches so far.

I had a -3.5 handicap on Djokovic, I now realise I should have gone with Fritz, hindsight
is 20/20 vision of course. I have gone for Ruud in the final +4.5 @ 1.59. I think Djokovic will
win but hopefully it will be a close 2 set affair.

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I watched the key moments in the Đoković - Fritz match - Đoković's mental strength showed how important it is once again.
Fritz had an advantage in the 1st tie-break, and served for the 2nd set. The result? He lost 2-0.

Đoković will be a big favorite tonight - Ruud is without a set won in their 3 matches so far.

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Quote from: KennyR on November 19, 2022, 06:20:04 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on November 19, 2022, 01:52:40 PM

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 19, 2022, 07:49:54 AM

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In the semifinals he will fight Fritz, just look at what kind of thread Fritz can do for this match and how to beat Djokovic

one more win for Djokovic, a bit tougher than expected, but it is hard to get Fritz break on this surface
in the end, Fritz was the one not mentally prepared to enter third set, he did not had the strength to finish second set before tie break

looking to finals, cannot see how Rublev/Ruud can play against Djokovic, almost secured trophy

Djokovic played good today but i think Fritz had an amazing chance to maybe win against Djokovic that was really tired from the match against Medvedev. The important thing for Djokovic is that he won in straight sets and now he can rest for the final. I think the trophy is in the bag for Djokovic

Djokovic won the straight sets, but those two sets were really hard for him. If he had made small mistake, the match could've moved towards Fritz. This is how the match went, 7⁷-6⁵ 7⁸-6⁶. Much closer win, and the final doesn't look to be fighting one for Djokovic as the match is against Ruud.

@Joca97 in this match Djokovic used all his experience to win, and it was evidently clear that Fritz almost came close to winning this match and I’m sure that his performance against Djokovic will boost his morale for future tournaments. Also while Djokovic looks set to win this tournament I feel that player’s are stepping up to him, and sooner or later he’ll be beaten as other player’s are no longer afraid when they face him these day’s.

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