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Quote from: babygun on October 18, 2022, 06:50:51 PM

Quote from: Jating on October 16, 2022, 07:24:22 AM

Yes, although he made a comeback and get his fans excited, I doubt think that he can bring back the clock. He might be satisfied on entering tournament and see how far he can go or even winning (and losing) against young guys.

I guess though the competitive spirit is still inside of him. Nevertheless, might be in a couple of years he might go and retire.

I think he also enjoys it just too much. Otherwise, why would you keep competing if you know that you can't win anymore against players that you defeated easy on years ago.
He can indeed win the first couple of rounds, even against keep players, but that's about it.

Maybe, he is still enjoying playing against this young players and he wanted to proved that he still has it. However, it's two different things, maybe your mind is telling you to go and play, but if your body is not cooperating because of injuries and you are already way past your prime. Then sooner or later you will have to make that difficult decision just like any other athletes, it's just to retire and no need to push yourself anymore and let this young blood be the next of the generation.

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Quote from: KennyR on October 18, 2022, 06:24:12 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on October 18, 2022, 03:49:09 PM

Quote from: aoluain on October 18, 2022, 03:08:35 PM

Of course, there are players who are really not going to make it back to their former
glory with the new talent making their mark on the tour.

Next year it will be even more difficult for them as the younger players will have
become stronger and developed their games more.

Although we have seen Djokovic meaning a comeback and back to be number 1 after getting injured. I remember that he had a open letter or something after winning a grand slam or a tournament. And it took him sometime to recover and bounce back to his form. But probably his injury might not be as severe as Murray and so Djokovic is a "exception to the rule".

@Rabi3 - I do agree, some players you mentioned bring nostalgia to me, specially Wawrinka you really gave the big 3 a run during his prime years.

More young players line-up. Even at their 20's they're making big progress. This makes the senior players work more to give competence. It is the experience that helps them stay high, whereas with the young players the stamina and the injury free scenario keeps them moving high defeating popular players. Djokovic was able to make a recovery, but he can't continue with this for a long as the competence level is quite high compared to the past days of tennis.

I still think that Djokovic an still maintain his level against their young players, although he has lost his rankings to Alcaraz, but I still believed that Djokovic will have the advantage over other players, not just his superior skills but his approach and mentality towards the game.

I'm seeing Djokovic still winning at least 2 Grand Slams before his game really deteriorates like Federer and Nadal. But that will be his goal to become the winningest tennis player so he will look for it before retiring.

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Quote from: Jating on October 16, 2022, 07:24:22 AM

Yes, although he made a comeback and get his fans excited, I doubt think that he can bring back the clock. He might be satisfied on entering tournament and see how far he can go or even winning (and losing) against young guys.

I guess though the competitive spirit is still inside of him. Nevertheless, might be in a couple of years he might go and retire.

I think he also enjoys it just too much. Otherwise, why would you keep competing if you know that you can't win anymore against players that you defeated easy on years ago.
He can indeed win the first couple of rounds, even against keep players, but that's about it.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 18, 2022, 03:49:09 PM

Quote from: aoluain on October 18, 2022, 03:08:35 PM

Of course, there are players who are really not going to make it back to their former
glory with the new talent making their mark on the tour.

Next year it will be even more difficult for them as the younger players will have
become stronger and developed their games more.

Although we have seen Djokovic meaning a comeback and back to be number 1 after getting injured. I remember that he had a open letter or something after winning a grand slam or a tournament. And it took him sometime to recover and bounce back to his form. But probably his injury might not be as severe as Murray and so Djokovic is a "exception to the rule".

@Rabi3 - I do agree, some players you mentioned bring nostalgia to me, specially Wawrinka you really gave the big 3 a run during his prime years.

More young players line-up. Even at their 20's they're making big progress. This makes the senior players work more to give competence. It is the experience that helps them stay high, whereas with the young players the stamina and the injury free scenario keeps them moving high defeating popular players. Djokovic was able to make a recovery, but he can't continue with this for a long as the competence level is quite high compared to the past days of tennis.

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Quote from: aoluain on October 18, 2022, 03:08:35 PM

Of course, there are players who are really not going to make it back to their former
glory with the new talent making their mark on the tour.

Next year it will be even more difficult for them as the younger players will have
become stronger and developed their games more.

Although we have seen Djokovic meaning a comeback and back to be number 1 after getting injured. I remember that he had a open letter or something after winning a grand slam or a tournament. And it took him sometime to recover and bounce back to his form. But probably his injury might not be as severe as Murray and so Djokovic is a "exception to the rule".

@Rabi3 - I do agree, some players you mentioned bring nostalgia to me, specially Wawrinka you really gave the big 3 a run during his prime years.

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Of course, there are players who are really not going to make it back to their former
glory with the new talent making their mark on the tour.

Next year it will be even more difficult for them as the younger players will have
become stronger and developed their games more.

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Quote from: aoluain on October 16, 2022, 02:47:02 AM

Quote from: Joca97 on October 15, 2022, 03:44:07 PM

Quote from: Jating on October 15, 2022, 03:35:55 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on October 15, 2022, 01:37:54 PM

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Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.

After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda.

Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda.

So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon.

Andy Murray is finished and that happened a long time ago. Now he just plays tournaments and if he gets to the quarter finals its a big achievement for him. He goes on the tournament just because those tournaments invite him because he is a large name,but he aint a threat to anyone.

I would say he will retire soon, He isn't progressing at all. He can still get through the first
round and maybe the second round of a competition depending on who he plays. He
got to the quarter final here mostly because there were not as many top players. It's a
pity but there has to be a time when he pulls the plug.

i'm seeing a lot of players like him struggling but they keep playing, like Stanislas Wawrinka, Fabio Fognini, Fernando Verdasco...etc but it's about time we see them retire, we can enjoy what's left of them for now, and soon they will be gone but never forgotten.

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Quote from: n0ne on October 17, 2022, 11:39:59 AM

Quote from: aoluain on October 17, 2022, 12:36:00 AM

Swiatek beat Pegula comprehensively in the semi and Vekic beat Collins after a lengthy
delay in their match meaning she had to play twice yesterday. I doubled my bet on Swiatek
with a handicap of -5.5. The match went to 3 sets with the last a bagel for Vekic.

Swiatek dominant again.

It is known that Swiatek is going to be the champion. Placing bets on her assure with the win, but I find you to be an expertise in tennis. Going for a handicap of -5.5 and winning the same isn't an easy thing. I believe, the luck is on your side. If not, the match would've ended by the 2nd set.

No no I'm not an expert at all. I was lucky though because the first and second sets were
both the same score for each player, 6-3, 3-6 and if Vekic had won only one game in the
third set my bet was lost.

One other WTA tournament running ATM - Guadalajara, I wonder if Swiatek will play there?

In the ATP there are three tournaments running now, Naples, Antwerp and Stockholm,
some of the top players are spread between the three.

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Quote from: aoluain on October 17, 2022, 12:36:00 AM

Swiatek beat Pegula comprehensively in the semi and Vekic beat Collins after a lengthy
delay in their match meaning she had to play twice yesterday. I doubled my bet on Swiatek
with a handicap of -5.5. The match went to 3 sets with the last a bagel for Vekic.

Swiatek dominant again.

It is known that Swiatek is going to be the champion. Placing bets on her assure with the win, but I find you to be an expertise in tennis. Going for a handicap of -5.5 and winning the same isn't an easy thing. I believe, the luck is on your side. If not, the match would've ended by the 2nd set.

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Quote from: Ratash on October 16, 2022, 03:53:01 PM

Gijon atp final was not as one would hope it was totaly one sided for rublev it was an easy 2 0 win but it was good to see rublev and dominic thiem in such a good shape, it seems that thiem is getting slowly to his shape by each passing tournament.

I would say Thiem could be a real force next year, he could challenge for a grand slam again
at some stage.

I have been following the tennis over at San Diego

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Quote from: wiss19 on October 14, 2022, 11:43:01 AM

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Over at the WTA San Diego, two more semi finals are scheduled later, Swiatek v Pegula
and Vekic v Collins. I think Pegula has a small chance here against Swiatek, the odds are 1.35
to 3.15. IMO Swiatek has not looked super convincing in some of her matches but I think I
will back her anyway regardless, the best handicap I can get on Pegula is +4.5......hmmm

Swiatek beat Pegula comprehensively in the semi and Vekic beat Collins after a lengthy
delay in their match meaning she had to play twice yesterday. I doubled my bet on Swiatek
with a handicap of -5.5. The match went to 3 sets with the last a bagel for Vekic.

Swiatek dominant again.

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Gijon atp final was not as one would hope it was totaly one sided for rublev it was an easy 2 0 win but it was good to see rublev and dominic thiem in such a good shape, it seems that thiem is getting slowly to his shape by each passing tournament.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 16, 2022, 11:37:22 AM

Andy Murray is a tennis legend, one of the greatest tennis players in history, but unfortunately two factors in his career prevented him from becoming an even bigger and better tennis player.
The first fact is that he played in the era of the three greatest tennis players in history, and the second fact is his numerous injuries that ruined his tennis career.
If it weren't for that, his tennis career would have been even bigger.
It's obvious how much he loves playing tennis and that it is difficult for him to end his tennis career, but it is obvious that it will happen soon.

Some people are hard worker but they don't get what they deserve in their life. Andy Murray is one of them
His injuries have not let him excel in his game. But I believe he is a legend he has ruled the heart of people

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 16, 2022, 11:37:22 AM

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Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.

After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda.

Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda.
So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon.

Andy Murray is finished and that happened a long time ago. Now he just plays tournaments and if he gets to the quarter finals its a big achievement for him. He goes on the tournament just because those tournaments invite him because he is a large name,but he aint a threat to anyone.

Yes, although he made a comeback and get his fans excited, I doubt think that he can bring back the clock. He might be satisfied on entering tournament and see how far he can go or even winning (and losing) against young guys.
I guess though the competitive spirit is still inside of him. Nevertheless, might be in a couple of years he might go and retire.

Andy Murray OBE is quite old at this point. It is doubtful that there is a lot of expectation from him after this win, regardless of the fact that he has reached the highest position in this tournament so far in his career.

I would have to say that it was an exceptionally remarkable performance from him at this age (35 years old). It is one of the things that I like about him that he is competitive. It's unclear whether he possesses the physical attributes needed to maintain his competitive nature. In any case, it won't be for very long.

Furthermore, I also think that there is a good chance that he will play one or two more years. However, I am not expecting him to do anything spectacular during that time.

Andy Murray is a tennis legend, one of the greatest tennis players in history, but unfortunately two factors in his career prevented him from becoming an even bigger and better tennis player.
The first fact is that he played in the era of the three greatest tennis players in history, and the second fact is his numerous injuries that ruined his tennis career.
If it weren't for that, his tennis career would have been even bigger.
It's obvious how much he loves playing tennis and that it is difficult for him to end his tennis career, but it is obvious that it will happen soon.

But still though, he hold his piece against the era of big 3 and we can even insert his name there that's why there is big 4. But the injury though, he had numerous injuries, but the last one really ruined it for him and we can call it career ending injuries.

And he tried to make a comeback in his career, play good matches but we know that he won't win any trophy at this point and just a matter of time before he quit.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on October 16, 2022, 11:19:52 AM

Quote from: Jating on October 16, 2022, 07:24:22 AM

Quote from: Joca97 on October 15, 2022, 03:44:07 PM

Quote from: Jating on October 15, 2022, 03:35:55 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on October 15, 2022, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on October 14, 2022, 06:43:27 PM

Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.

After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda.

Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda.
So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon.

Andy Murray is finished and that happened a long time ago. Now he just plays tournaments and if he gets to the quarter finals its a big achievement for him. He goes on the tournament just because those tournaments invite him because he is a large name,but he aint a threat to anyone.

Yes, although he made a comeback and get his fans excited, I doubt think that he can bring back the clock. He might be satisfied on entering tournament and see how far he can go or even winning (and losing) against young guys.
I guess though the competitive spirit is still inside of him. Nevertheless, might be in a couple of years he might go and retire.

Andy Murray OBE is quite old at this point. It is doubtful that there is a lot of expectation from him after this win, regardless of the fact that he has reached the highest position in this tournament so far in his career.

I would have to say that it was an exceptionally remarkable performance from him at this age (35 years old). It is one of the things that I like about him that he is competitive. It's unclear whether he possesses the physical attributes needed to maintain his competitive nature. In any case, it won't be for very long.

Furthermore, I also think that there is a good chance that he will play one or two more years. However, I am not expecting him to do anything spectacular during that time.

Andy Murray is a tennis legend, one of the greatest tennis players in history, but unfortunately two factors in his career prevented him from becoming an even bigger and better tennis player.
The first fact is that he played in the era of the three greatest tennis players in history, and the second fact is his numerous injuries that ruined his tennis career.
If it weren't for that, his tennis career would have been even bigger.
It's obvious how much he loves playing tennis and that it is difficult for him to end his tennis career, but it is obvious that it will happen soon.

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Quote from: Jating on October 16, 2022, 07:24:22 AM

Quote from: Joca97 on October 15, 2022, 03:44:07 PM

Quote from: Jating on October 15, 2022, 03:35:55 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on October 15, 2022, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on October 14, 2022, 06:43:27 PM

Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.

After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda.

Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda.
So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon.

Andy Murray is finished and that happened a long time ago. Now he just plays tournaments and if he gets to the quarter finals its a big achievement for him. He goes on the tournament just because those tournaments invite him because he is a large name,but he aint a threat to anyone.

Yes, although he made a comeback and get his fans excited, I doubt think that he can bring back the clock. He might be satisfied on entering tournament and see how far he can go or even winning (and losing) against young guys.
I guess though the competitive spirit is still inside of him. Nevertheless, might be in a couple of years he might go and retire.

Andy Murray OBE is quite old at this point. It is doubtful that there is a lot of expectation from him after this win, regardless of the fact that he has reached the highest position in this tournament so far in his career.

I would have to say that it was an exceptionally remarkable performance from him at this age (35 years old). It is one of the things that I like about him that he is competitive. It's unclear whether he possesses the physical attributes needed to maintain his competitive nature. In any case, it won't be for very long.

Furthermore, I also think that there is a good chance that he will play one or two more years. However, I am not expecting him to do anything spectacular during that time.

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Sebastian Korda wasn't able to make his win continue on the Gijon Open Final. After the win against Andy Murray, Sebastian Korda direct set win against Arthur Rinderknech in the semifinals. In the finals it was Andrey Rublev to win the match 6-2 6-3.

Tomorrow Andy Murray is playing against Munar in the European Open round of 32. This is going to be an easy win for Andy Murray.

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 15, 2022, 03:44:07 PM

Quote from: Jating on October 15, 2022, 03:35:55 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on October 15, 2022, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on October 14, 2022, 06:43:27 PM

Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.

After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda.

Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda.

So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon.

Andy Murray is finished and that happened a long time ago. Now he just plays tournaments and if he gets to the quarter finals its a big achievement for him. He goes on the tournament just because those tournaments invite him because he is a large name,but he aint a threat to anyone.

Yes, although he made a comeback and get his fans excited, I doubt think that he can bring back the clock. He might be satisfied on entering tournament and see how far he can go or even winning (and losing) against young guys.

I guess though the competitive spirit is still inside of him. Nevertheless, might be in a couple of years he might go and retire.

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 15, 2022, 03:44:07 PM

Quote from: Jating on October 15, 2022, 03:35:55 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on October 15, 2022, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on October 14, 2022, 06:43:27 PM

Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.

After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda.

Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda.

So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon.

Andy Murray is finished and that happened a long time ago. Now he just plays tournaments and if he gets to the quarter finals its a big achievement for him. He goes on the tournament just because those tournaments invite him because he is a large name,but he aint a threat to anyone.

I would say he will retire soon, He isn't progressing at all. He can still get through the first
round and maybe the second round of a competition depending on who he plays. He
got to the quarter final here mostly because there were not as many top players. It's a
pity but there has to be a time when he pulls the plug.

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Quote from: Jating on October 15, 2022, 03:35:55 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on October 15, 2022, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on October 14, 2022, 06:43:27 PM

Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.

After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda.

Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda.

So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon.

Andy Murray is finished and that happened a long time ago. Now he just plays tournaments and if he gets to the quarter finals its a big achievement for him. He goes on the tournament just because those tournaments invite him because he is a large name,but he aint a threat to anyone.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on October 15, 2022, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on October 14, 2022, 06:43:27 PM

Andy Murray lost today in Gijon against Korda 2-1 , Murray was the underdog so it was not shocking that he lost, the American is one of my personal favorite young players, i saw him play a couple of matches before, he is pretty good, he didn't quite blow up but he's still young, i'm pretty sure he can win a big title in the future.

After short break this is the highest reach of Andy Murray reaching Quarter Final. In his previous tournaments he used to end with group stages or by the third round. As age pass, his performance keeps moving downwards. More young players are ready to dominate the tennis world. One amongst them is Korda.

Yeah, I think this is the highest that Andy Murray has reach in a tournament thus far, so it's not that bad however still very tough tournament for him as he lost to a young Korda.

So Korda will be facing Rublev now. I will go with Rublev in this one. I thight Rublev has some confidence but probably this will be extended into 3 sets, I reckon.

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