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July 02, 2022, 07:57:34 AM

What van Rijthoven has shown is underestimated by many people, I think. It's not like he had a good day and beat a good player. He has knocked home at least 5 players from the top 20 since the Rosmalen tournament. And in Rosmalen, he wiped Medvedev off the track, who had no chance against him. If you are so good that you can leave Medvedev without a chance, then you could also beat Djokovic, right? Although you cannot compare Djokovic with Medvedev. Van Rijthoven can also feel the tension and then he can lose without a chance. In any case, it is a game to look forward to.

The bookies don't agree as Djokovic is the big favorite to win with an odd of 1.06. Van Rijthoven is in form and beat some top players at the Rosmalen tournament, but winning against Djokovic will be a too big hurdle I think. However, I do think that Van Rijthoven stands a chance to win a set, so I placed a small bet on over 3.5 sets @2.5.
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July 02, 2022, 05:38:27 AM
I have Norrie to reach SF at 8,50 odds - placed it before the tournament began. Looks like it will be close - it will probably be him vs Goffin for that SF spot.

I have to say that Goffin does look really good so far - and so does Alcaraz. Tommy Paul however is the biggest surprise to me so far and he's playing Norrie next.

If i new it was 8.50 on Norrie to reach the semis i would have thrown some of my money on it. Norrie plays amazing and just destroyed Johnson yesterday and with how the home crowd is pushing him i really see him at the very top of the tournament. Goffin finally after such a long time playing on a good level
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July 02, 2022, 05:29:18 AM
Man, results went the complete opposite of my accas, but that's what you get deciding the bookies got the favourites wrong. Humbert was the disappointment for me, won first set with a series of awesome serves, just as he did in Round2, and then for some reason gave it all away in 2nd set, fought back in 3rd to no avail, bladibla. Wasted my Friday watching a loss instead of getting some early work done for next week.

Maybe we will have to reconsider Alcaraz, I watched him today and he played very good. I guess he was just so young that he did not have a chance to play on grass before. Lost my bet today but after this match I don't think I will be betting against him on any surface.

Yeah, after a couple of days of upsets, think yesterday largely went as scripted. I only have one outright riding here: Tsitsipas to reach final so I would have hedged on Kyrgios but he's not enough odds for me to consider. Maybe live.
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July 02, 2022, 04:03:26 AM
So Novak Djokovic is playing another good game against Kecmanovic. He won the first set by class,  6-0 and the 2nd set is in progress with 4-3 in favor of Djokovic.

I have a gut feeling, that he will win the title though he may not be in his best of forms like in previous years. Whom you people consider favorites ?

Novak Djokovic is the main favorite to win the title and with how he his playing i dont see anyone coming close to him at all.
Nadal is looking really bad,Alcaraz isnt so good on grass. Berrettini due to covid is out so i honestly dont see anyone beating him.
Nadal isn't that bad. He have played good against Berankis. Possibly the finals will be between Nadal and Djokovic. Most of the odds were in favour of Novak Djokovic to win Wimbledon.

I dont know if we watched the same match man. Nadal was really really bad and made so many unforced errors. If there was someone slightly better then Berankis he would have won against Nadal pretty easily. I have watched him during this tournament and he dosent look even close to the level that Djokovic is on

Yea but nobody is going to have an easy game against Nadal. Being one of the top players
he isnt there for nothing, he can 99% of the time lift his game to get the job done.

I have Norrie to reach SF at 8,50 odds - placed it before the tournament began. Looks like it will be close - it will probably be him vs Goffin for that SF spot.

I have to say that Goffin does look really good so far - and so does Alcaraz. Tommy Paul however is the biggest surprise to me so far and he's playing Norrie next.
My biggest surprise is maybe Alcaraz, really did not expect him to do well on grass, but it seems like he is better player with each passing day and now I consider him as legit contender for the title.

Match of the day, or match of the tournament so far is Kyrgios - Tsitsipas later today and my money is on crazy Smiley Just hope Kyrgios will be able to concentrate on the game and not on the some beef with the crowd or ref. Over games/sets also looks like a great bet. These 2 never finished a match in straight sets.

Yea Alcaraz is improving with every match here at Wimbledon. His confidence
and belief is high and he thrives on those.

Ah Kyrgios v Tsitsipas is a match I definitely wont be betting on but I will try and
watch it for the voyeurism of it. I pity the chair umpire for this one, both can be whiney.
I will be a spectacle anyway
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July 02, 2022, 03:51:53 AM
I have Norrie to reach SF at 8,50 odds - placed it before the tournament began. Looks like it will be close - it will probably be him vs Goffin for that SF spot.

I have to say that Goffin does look really good so far - and so does Alcaraz. Tommy Paul however is the biggest surprise to me so far and he's playing Norrie next.
My biggest surprise is maybe Alcaraz, really did not expect him to do well on grass, but it seems like he is better player with each passing day and now I consider him as legit contender for the title.

Match of the day, or match of the tournament so far is Kyrgios - Tsitsipas later today and my money is on crazy Smiley Just hope Kyrgios will be able to concentrate on the game and not on the some beef with the crowd or ref. Over games/sets also looks like a great bet. These 2 never finished a match in straight sets.
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July 02, 2022, 03:25:06 AM
I have Norrie to reach SF at 8,50 odds - placed it before the tournament began. Looks like it will be close - it will probably be him vs Goffin for that SF spot.

I have to say that Goffin does look really good so far - and so does Alcaraz. Tommy Paul however is the biggest surprise to me so far and he's playing Norrie next.
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July 01, 2022, 07:48:48 PM
So Novak Djokovic is playing another good game against Kecmanovic. He won the first set by class,  6-0 and the 2nd set is in progress with 4-3 in favor of Djokovic.

I have a gut feeling, that he will win the title though he may not be in his best of forms like in previous years. Whom you people consider favorites ?

Novak Djokovic is the main favorite to win the title and with how he his playing i dont see anyone coming close to him at all.
Nadal is looking really bad,Alcaraz isnt so good on grass. Berrettini due to covid is out so i honestly dont see anyone beating him.
Maybe we will have to reconsider Alcaraz, I watched him today and he played very good. I guess he was just so young that he did not have a chance to play on grass before. Lost my bet today but after this match I don't think I will be betting against him on any surface.

True, he did played pretty well in a match against a good grass player in Otte. So this kid has a lot of surprises for us? So he proves he can play clay at the same time be very strong at the grass.

Gasquest vs van de Zandschulp, the French man never ceases to amaze us, I will be betting on the handicap +4.5 on him.

Outright favorite is still Djokovic, Nadal, Alcaraz and then Kyrgios.
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July 01, 2022, 04:41:44 PM
Novak Djokovic is the main favorite to win the title and with how he his playing i dont see anyone coming close to him at all.
Nadal is looking really bad,Alcaraz isnt so good on grass. Berrettini due to covid is out so i honestly dont see anyone beating him.
Nadal isn't that bad. He have played good against Berankis. Possibly the finals will be between Nadal and Djokovic. Most of the odds were in favour of Novak Djokovic to win Wimbledon.
Sometime happened this we have good player in bad situation, but player like Nadal can settle things very quickly in his favor because he is a legendary player with amazing record, but grass is never been ideal for him which is having some impact on his game.

Currently, nothing is sure any player on his day can do upset, and we can watch some entertaining game like tomorrow we have Tsitsipas vs nick kyrgiose both are very talented players and now trying their best for coming out of shadow of these big three hopefully someone will stand against Djokovic in this tournament, and we can watch new champion in 2022 even its just personal view because Djokovic is having strong start of this tournament.
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July 01, 2022, 04:28:43 PM
missed info that Djokovic next rival is Van Rijthoven, if I looked at draw, would not pursue win for Basil, when it was clear that he will lose next one
interesting draw, Djokovic and Alcaraz in QF, if goes as expected, and clear way for Norrie to SF with probably Djokovic

Norrie won easily today let only five gems to Johnson, and he just need to let down pressue that is mounting around him as domestic player with a clear chance to reach SF
It was expected for djokovic to run throuth kecmanovic he is far away from a good performance not to mention how heavily was djokovic favourite, i think van rijthoven will give some resistance but i don't think it will be enough to resist djokovic , the semi final is looking in favor of djokovic and norrie, and it seems that nadal will make it atleast to the quarter final, it will be interesting.
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July 01, 2022, 04:14:57 PM
Djokovic really won today with playful ease. If you see his matches or look at the results, you would say that he has won against someone who is number 250 in the world. But today's opponent was certainly not a bad player, he was just 30th in the world ranking. I'm looking forward to the next round, when Djokovic will play against van Rijthoven, who is currently beating everything and everyone that stands in his way. This is a party that can go either way. Also 3-0 for van Rijthoven would be possible.

What van Rijthoven has shown is underestimated by many people, I think. It's not like he had a good day and beat a good player. He has knocked home at least 5 players from the top 20 since the Rosmalen tournament. And in Rosmalen, he wiped Medvedev off the track, who had no chance against him. If you are so good that you can leave Medvedev without a chance, then you could also beat Djokovic, right? Although you cannot compare Djokovic with Medvedev. Van Rijthoven can also feel the tension and then he can lose without a chance. In any case, it is a game to look forward to.
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July 01, 2022, 03:51:22 PM
Djokovic really won today with playful ease. If you see his matches or look at the results, you would say that he has won against someone who is number 250 in the world. But today's opponent was certainly not a bad player, he was just 30th in the world ranking. I'm looking forward to the next round, when Djokovic will play against van Rijthoven, who is currently beating everything and everyone that stands in his way. This is a party that can go either way. Also 3-0 for van Rijthoven would be possible.
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July 01, 2022, 03:21:07 PM
So Novak Djokovic is playing another good game against Kecmanovic. He won the first set by class,  6-0 and the 2nd set is in progress with 4-3 in favor of Djokovic.

I have a gut feeling, that he will win the title though he may not be in his best of forms like in previous years. Whom you people consider favorites ?

Novak Djokovic is the main favorite to win the title and with how he his playing i dont see anyone coming close to him at all.
Nadal is looking really bad,Alcaraz isnt so good on grass. Berrettini due to covid is out so i honestly dont see anyone beating him.
Nadal isn't that bad. He have played good against Berankis. Possibly the finals will be between Nadal and Djokovic. Most of the odds were in favour of Novak Djokovic to win Wimbledon.

I dont know if we watched the same match man. Nadal was really really bad and made so many unforced errors. If there was someone slightly better then Berankis he would have won against Nadal pretty easily. I have watched him during this tournament and he dosent look even close to the level that Djokovic is on
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July 01, 2022, 01:47:16 PM
missed info that Djokovic next rival is Van Rijthoven, if I looked at draw, would not pursue win for Basil, when it was clear that he will lose next one
interesting draw, Djokovic and Alcaraz in QF, if goes as expected, and clear way for Norrie to SF with probably Djokovic

Norrie won easily today let only five gems to Johnson, and he just need to let down pressue that is mounting around him as domestic player with a clear chance to reach SF
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July 01, 2022, 01:10:36 PM
So Novak Djokovic is playing another good game against Kecmanovic. He won the first set by class,  6-0 and the 2nd set is in progress with 4-3 in favor of Djokovic.

I have a gut feeling, that he will win the title though he may not be in his best of forms like in previous years. Whom you people consider favorites ?

Novak Djokovic is the main favorite to win the title and with how he his playing i dont see anyone coming close to him at all.
Nadal is looking really bad,Alcaraz isnt so good on grass. Berrettini due to covid is out so i honestly dont see anyone beating him.
Nadal isn't that bad. He have played good against Berankis. Possibly the finals will be between Nadal and Djokovic. Most of the odds were in favour of Novak Djokovic to win Wimbledon.
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July 01, 2022, 12:28:35 PM
So Novak Djokovic is playing another good game against Kecmanovic. He won the first set by class,  6-0 and the 2nd set is in progress with 4-3 in favor of Djokovic.

I have a gut feeling, that he will win the title though he may not be in his best of forms like in previous years. Whom you people consider favorites ?

Novak Djokovic is the main favorite to win the title and with how he his playing i dont see anyone coming close to him at all.
Nadal is looking really bad,Alcaraz isnt so good on grass. Berrettini due to covid is out so i honestly dont see anyone beating him.
Maybe we will have to reconsider Alcaraz, I watched him today and he played very good. I guess he was just so young that he did not have a chance to play on grass before. Lost my bet today but after this match I don't think I will be betting against him on any surface.
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July 01, 2022, 12:05:14 PM
So Novak Djokovic is playing another good game against Kecmanovic. He won the first set by class,  6-0 and the 2nd set is in progress with 4-3 in favor of Djokovic.

I have a gut feeling, that he will win the title though he may not be in his best of forms like in previous years. Whom you people consider favorites ?

Novak Djokovic is the main favorite to win the title and with how he his playing i dont see anyone coming close to him at all.
Nadal is looking really bad,Alcaraz isnt so good on grass. Berrettini due to covid is out so i honestly dont see anyone beating him.
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July 01, 2022, 10:17:26 AM
So Novak Djokovic is playing another good game against Kecmanovic. He won the first set by class,  6-0 and the 2nd set is in progress with 4-3 in favor of Djokovic.

I have a gut feeling, that he will win the title though he may not be in his best of forms like in previous years. Whom you people consider favorites ?
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July 01, 2022, 06:58:24 AM
My small bet for the day:

Backing Isner to do himself a favour and get another good showing, Sinner's rightly the favourite but think the American's serve is really doing him wonders... plus of course to avenge his straight set defeat last year. Over 25/10, and I parlayed that with Humbert for almost 6/1.

Well he has said before that his girlfriend now is one of the best things which has happened
for him and she is court side nearly every match. I recon they are all working on his mental side
of the tennis. I have nothing else to back this up, its just a sense I get from watching them but
yea we have to wait and see what happens from here on in, even past Wimbledon.

I have to say though, and this isn't sexist I hope, it's simply the way I think works for either (multiple) side(s) of a partnership -- if you're doing it for someone else, it's not sustainable.

But well if that's true, then all the better for everyone enjoying the game. Just that I've seen it in football myself, no one can help you out of a spiral if you don't do it for yourself (not on your own, mind you, but for yourself).

Yea I agree, the change or motivation has to start with yourself and others can help you
keep a momentum up. Those other people can be the key though especially a spouse or
intimate someone, they can be closer in a different way to a coach and can "influence" you
to change your way of thinking generally for the better


Ah we all know Kyrgios' weakness as well as his talent and we get frustrated
watching him 99% of the time but I cant believe he doesnt care and that deep down he doesnt
want to do well. I think he is on the verge of doing something great.

Why do I think that?

Well he has said before that his girlfriend now is one of the best things which has happened
for him and she is court side nearly every match. I recon they are all working on his mental side
of the tennis. I have nothing else to back this up, its just a sense I get from watching them but
yea we have to wait and see what happens from here on in, even past Wimbledon.

When he's good he's great, when he's not he's not. If his girlfriend had changed his attitude, and he was playing at maximum Kyrgios every match, he'd be almost untouchable and one of the top favourites for the tournament.
But we only have to go back to his match in the earlier round against the unknown 200+ ranked Paul Jubb. At break-point down at 5-5 in the fifth, Kyrgios was nearly out. He won that game with a sudden flurry of three unreturnable serves, and from there won the match. But he was probably a single point away from going out there, just a couple of days ago.

Of course he may win the tournament, but equally, he may have another off-day or off-thirty-minutes at a crucial moment. The problem from a betting perspective is we just can never tell. I don't think I've ever placed a bet for or against him, he's too unpredictable.

yea well I bet against him yesterday, I had a +6.5 handicap on Krajinovic yesterday thinking
he would at least give Nick a right good game, nah, 2:6, 3:6 and 1:6. So yea way too unpredictible
from Nick.
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July 01, 2022, 06:39:32 AM
Ah we all know Kyrgios' weakness as well as his talent and we get frustrated
watching him 99% of the time but I cant believe he doesnt care and that deep down he doesnt
want to do well. I think he is on the verge of doing something great.

Why do I think that?

Well he has said before that his girlfriend now is one of the best things which has happened
for him and she is court side nearly every match. I recon they are all working on his mental side
of the tennis. I have nothing else to back this up, its just a sense I get from watching them but
yea we have to wait and see what happens from here on in, even past Wimbledon.

When he's good he's great, when he's not he's not. If his girlfriend had changed his attitude, and he was playing at maximum Kyrgios every match, he'd be almost untouchable and one of the top favourites for the tournament.
But we only have to go back to his match in the earlier round against the unknown 200+ ranked Paul Jubb. At break-point down at 5-5 in the fifth, Kyrgios was nearly out. He won that game with a sudden flurry of three unreturnable serves, and from there won the match. But he was probably a single point away from going out there, just a couple of days ago.

Of course he may win the tournament, but equally, he may have another off-day or off-thirty-minutes at a crucial moment. The problem from a betting perspective is we just can never tell. I don't think I've ever placed a bet for or against him, he's too unpredictable.
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July 01, 2022, 06:18:52 AM
Kyrgios was absolutely flying today. I don't remember seeing somebody returning like this on grass for a very long time. He was untouchable on serve and very clinical throughout the match. Now if he was just stable enough to continue with performances like today I would have my new favorite to bet on. But him being Kyrgios after all, I am afraid he will just turn mentally and gift someone a pass in one of next rounds.

That's always the main problem with Kyrgios, he has the talent to win it, but the chances equally exist that he gets mad for something and throws it away. Maybe this year can be different, he withdraw from the Mens double to focus on his single match and his upcoming match against Tsitsipas can also tell us something. According to the bookies, Kyrgrios is the favorite to win with an odd of 1.7.
I did not know he plays against Tsitsipas next. This is a good match to bet on Kyrgios, I mean as good as it gets. Good odds against opponent who is not at his best on grass and against opponent who is big enough name to inspire him.

H2H is strongly on Kyrgios side as well, 3 wins and one loss, with last win coming on grass just few weeks ago.
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