I would have thought he didnt know what to do in the second set because Alcaraz was
everywhere, he was definitely the dominant player of that set and played at a higher level
than the first, it took him 3 games to get going in the first set. I think against anyone else
apart from maybe Sinner or Djokovic as Serveria.com points out Medvedev would have
had a better day out.
I know its a bit premature to say but at that level yesterday I can see anyone beating
Alcaraz in Miami
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What is wrong with Medvedev?
His mentality is often like this. If he'd won the 1st TB, he'd have played a lot better.
He has huge fluctuations in the matches he's playing, you can never know what to expect.
On his dominant surface he shouldn't ever be losing sets like the 2nd one he lost yesterday.
Alcaraz is a deserved winner after all, he beat Zverev, Sinner and Medvedev for the title. By far the most difficult draw from all players in the tournament.
Yeah, in fact only Djokovic in his draw would have made it harder!
Alcaraz showed some great performance, perhaps his best this year, but Medvedev was not on top of his game too, that's true! He had runny nose and was coughing intermittently so I suspect he was a bit sick. Definitely not an excuse, but that's what I spotted during the changeovers.
What is wrong with Medvedev?
His mentality is often like this. If he'd won the 1st TB, he'd have played a lot better.
He has huge fluctuations in the matches he's playing, you can never know what to expect.
On his dominant surface he shouldn't ever be losing sets like the 2nd one he lost yesterday.
Alcaraz is a deserved winner after all, he beat Zverev, Sinner and Medvedev for the title. By far the most difficult draw from all players in the tournament.
Carlos got the better of Sinner to reach the finals. Sinner won the first set but Carlos made a comeback to win the semis. Now, Medvedev is playing shockingly poorly during the first set, losing the set 1-6 against Tommy Paul. 2nd set is on the way. Medvedev is still the favourite to win the match, after losing the first set. 1.8x on him, might be a decent gamble. Medvedev if he fixes his shortcomings, he has a bigger upsides than Tommy Paul.
What is wrong with Medvedev?Thought he played alot better than the way he is looking now into the second set of the finals.
He is playing poorly just like he did during the match yesterday against Paul in the first set.
Carlos Alcaraz is looking like he will take this Indian Wells final the way he has been playing with those amazing shots. Just like his match against Sinner, his form is 100% and showing how good those aerobatic skills of his really are.
Can't see this one going into another tie breaker as with the first set. Carlos is currently dominating Daniil with being up 4-1 in the second set.
Missed both semis yesterday due to rain delay. It was too late and I went to bed unfortunately missing these two great matches.
Missed whole tournament because of poor hours for my time zone. Hopefully I will be able to catch something of the final. Odds on Medvedev seem like bookies are not rating him high enough on his best surface (by some margin). Again difficult to judge without actually watching them play but I think he should get at least one set, which pays nice @1.68This match is 50/50 for me or maybe 60/40 to Alcaraz, nowhere near what the odds suggest.
Hey Trofo!
Yea a lot of the matches are in our sleep time.
The Mens final has just started so a decent time for us.
Medvedev is 3.15, I have a small bet on him eventhough Alcaraz looks so strong in
this tournament. The H2H is 2:1 to Alcaraz on hard courts... I agree though that
the odds seem very skewed
On the WTA side Swiatek had what looks like an easy win over Sakkari, even Bagel'd
her in the second set. 6-4 and 6-0.
Yeah the match was very similar to the 2022 Indian Wells final where Iga defeated Maria 6:4, 6:1.
Men's final really tight so far: it's 6:6 and tie break will start in a moment.
Missed both semis yesterday due to rain delay. It was too late and I went to bed unfortunately missing these two great matches.
Missed whole tournament because of poor hours for my time zone. Hopefully I will be able to catch something of the final. Odds on Medvedev seem like bookies are not rating him high enough on his best surface (by some margin). Again difficult to judge without actually watching them play but I think he should get at least one set, which pays nice @1.68This match is 50/50 for me or maybe 60/40 to Alcaraz, nowhere near what the odds suggest.
Hey Trofo!
Yea a lot of the matches are in our sleep time.
The Mens final has just started so a decent time for us.
Medvedev is 3.15, I have a small bet on him eventhough Alcaraz looks so strong in
this tournament. The H2H is 2:1 to Alcaraz on hard courts... I agree though that
the odds seem very skewed
On the WTA side Swiatek had what looks like an easy win over Sakkari, even Bagel'd
her in the second set. 6-4 and 6-0.
Missed both semis yesterday due to rain delay. It was too late and I went to bed unfortunately missing these two great matches.
Missed whole tournament because of poor hours for my time zone. Hopefully I will be able to catch something of the final. Odds on Medvedev seem like bookies are not rating him high enough on his best surface (by some margin). Again difficult to judge without actually watching them play but I think he should get at least one set, which pays nice @1.68This match is 50/50 for me or maybe 60/40 to Alcaraz, nowhere near what the odds suggest.
a famous online newspaper here in italy (repubblica.it) yesterday reported the statistic that between sinner and alcaraz neither of them was ever able to win more than 3 consecutive matches...
And yes! It was conforme the statistica!
good show for sure, sorry to lose the best and see a follow Italiano loss an important match but it's part of the game
And yes! It was conforme the statistica!
good show for sure, sorry to lose the best and see a follow Italiano loss an important match but it's part of the game
Carlos got the better of Sinner to reach the finals. Sinner won the first set but Carlos made a comeback to win the semis. Now, Medvedev is playing shockingly poorly during the first set, losing the set 1-6 against Tommy Paul. 2nd set is on the way. Medvedev is still the favourite to win the match, after losing the first set. 1.8x on him, might be a decent gamble. Medvedev if he fixes his shortcomings, he has a bigger upsides than Tommy Paul.
aaaaarh I was thinking that was going to happen, I posted about it above and was shocked
to see the actual result this morning. I was a good run by Sinner and I'm sure he will have
more runs this year. More and more people must have favoured Alcaraz as time closed
in on the start with the odds down to 1.80 v 1.90 as bitbollo posted.
Today its a great day for tennis lover since there Is a "new Classic" Sinner vs Alcaraz.
Yes I believe some of the shot making in this semi final was stellar from both players,
serious talent on display, "Classic" meeting indeed.
Carlos got the better of Sinner to reach the finals. Sinner won the first set but Carlos made a comeback to win the semis. Now, Medvedev is playing shockingly poorly during the first set, losing the set 1-6 against Tommy Paul. 2nd set is on the way. Medvedev is still the favourite to win the match, after losing the first set. 1.8x on him, might be a decent gamble. Medvedev if he fixes his shortcomings, he has a bigger upsides than Tommy Paul.
I think Tommy Paul is actually very underrated to be honest, he's not there at the very top of the food chain of tennis, but I don't think he's far off either, himself and Alex De Minaur are probably at the top of my currently top most underrated tennis players.
That said, Medvedev is always going to be a huge forceto sweep over even despite being down a set against any opponent, even on an average day, but he was below par for the first set and seemed to have got things figured out for the second, he's currently up serving for the 2nd Set with a 5-3 lead, but complacency still could be the real enemy here, if care isn't taken now, or in a highly probable deciding set.
Medvedev is very underrated also I think, he game is not a stand out style really and he kind
of flew under the radar in this tournament.
I think Alcaraz will take the final though.
Missed both semis yesterday due to rain delay. It was too late and I went to bed unfortunately missing these two great matches. Btw, does anyone know where you can watch ATP/WTA matches in record?
Carlos got the better of Sinner to reach the finals. Sinner won the first set but Carlos made a comeback to win the semis. Now, Medvedev is playing shockingly poorly during the first set, losing the set 1-6 against Tommy Paul. 2nd set is on the way. Medvedev is still the favourite to win the match, after losing the first set. 1.8x on him, might be a decent gamble. Medvedev if he fixes his shortcomings, he has a bigger upsides than Tommy Paul.
I think Tommy Paul is actually very underrated to be honest, he's not there at the very top of the food chain of tennis, but I don't think he's far off either, himself and Alex De Minaur are probably at the top of my currently top most underrated tennis players.
That said, Medvedev is always going to be a huge forceto sweep over even despite being down a set against any opponent, even on an average day, but he was below par for the first set and seemed to have got things figured out for the second, he's currently up serving for the 2nd Set with a 5-3 lead, but complacency still could be the real enemy here, if care isn't taken now, or in a highly probable deciding set.
Carlos got the better of Sinner to reach the finals. Sinner won the first set but Carlos made a comeback to win the semis. Now, Medvedev is playing shockingly poorly during the first set, losing the set 1-6 against Tommy Paul. 2nd set is on the way. Medvedev is still the favourite to win the match, after losing the first set. 1.8x on him, might be a decent gamble. Medvedev if he fixes his shortcomings, he has a bigger upsides than Tommy Paul.
Was waiting for this match to resume after only having a few hits but two and a half hours later they are still indoors.
Nice photos of them sitting under the umbrellas, shows you who is the gentleman of the match.
Sinner is on a 19 match winning streak without dropping a set going into this one and he is leading the H2H 4-3.
Carlos also has a winning streak but at 10.
Have a few bets on this match so hopefully it won't get cancelled for today and then resume tomorrow.
Nice photos of them sitting under the umbrellas, shows you who is the gentleman of the match.
Sinner is on a 19 match winning streak without dropping a set going into this one and he is leading the H2H 4-3.
Carlos also has a winning streak but at 10.
Have a few bets on this match so hopefully it won't get cancelled for today and then resume tomorrow.
Match suspended. Meanwhile some of my friend send to me this image "the class Is not water"
Well, Italians do It Better as already said Madonna.
I don't know if this Is a plot for building the image of gentleman but at least to me, It seems that he Is really acting gentle in any occasion.
Probably this will not interfer with final result but its really nice to see as example.
I haven't had my eyes on the ATP ranking all the time, but yesterday or I saw that it must have been a while ago when for the last time two players were so close to Djokovic. I know the last time it was Alcaraz when he kicked Djokovic of the throne, but now that Djokovic got eliminated from Indian Wells, Sinner and Alcaraz can both make a good step forward in his direction. This was an unexpected and hefty loss for Djokovic, but he will get over it. He has these moments, I think more often in the tournaments that are not Grand Slams, but still Indian Wells is a big one. Huge game though Sinner vs. Alcaraz and I am undecided who could be the winner.
Ah TBH I havent felt any sort if pity for any Djokovic loss over the last few years,
he is a super Tennis player, has won everything a couple of times and has earned enough
from it to probably trump what we here on this thread earn in a lifetime. He's is doing
alright for himself!
I agree that the semi final later on is more about getting to this final, its points too.
I think we now have 2 definite next generation players to take over from the Top 3
(fab 4) and with Medvedev, Ruud and Zverev Tennis is in good shape.
I watched a replay if Zverev v Alcaraz and K have to say Alcaraz is in top form and
I really fear for Sinners chances to beat him today. The odds have closed a bit to
reflect this 1.73 v 2.05. I hope I'm wrong though, would love to see Sinner continue
his run!
No regrets for Djokovic at all, I am all for some action at the top of the rankings as long as it is not due to everyone becoming weaker or retiring, but due to new talents finally making the next step in their career and become the world's best players while being fiercely challenged.
I think Djokovic is still up for some intense fights on the court at the Grand Slams as in those tournaments I am sure he feels a different motivation. He is one of the best competitors in the world regardless of the sport, but when 20 years of that level have passed, it is probably more than normal that there is a tiny bit of negligence sneaking into the level of motivation even of the best competitors. He will emphasize the Grand Slams and Djokovic - Alcaraz or Djokovic - Sinner will still be worth watching for a few years I guess.
Today its a great day for tennis lover since there Is a "new Classic" Sinner vs Alcaraz.
This time the Italian player Is the favorite (odds are around @1.70/1.80).
Of course no one would be surprised by his win... Winning 20 consecutive matches at this level Is a a big big result
In Italy all media and news papers continue to celebrate his talent. But Sinner Is completely different from the Classic sport superstar... He has not a super model as fiance, he Is not acting spreading his luxury Life style or his achievement, he Is not "aggressive" but always really kind with every one... Definitely a great man not only a great player!
This time the Italian player Is the favorite (odds are around @1.70/1.80).
Of course no one would be surprised by his win... Winning 20 consecutive matches at this level Is a a big big result
In Italy all media and news papers continue to celebrate his talent. But Sinner Is completely different from the Classic sport superstar... He has not a super model as fiance, he Is not acting spreading his luxury Life style or his achievement, he Is not "aggressive" but always really kind with every one... Definitely a great man not only a great player!
Match was stopped for almost 2 hours and this was the only match with strange incident during the Indian Wells championship in the title since the start.
also the bee attack only occurred in stadium 1 which caused the match to stop while in the other fields all the matches still played because there were women's and women's doubles matches too.I'm sure many people will favor Sinner vs Medvedev in the final over others and so do I, and looking at this fact Sinner's winning streak will still continue, maybe at the Miami Open or another tournament in clay court his winning streak will be broken.
Novak Djokovic is certain to miss the Miami Open and prefers to prepare for the clay season, last year he was not good at the opening clay season tournament but managed to become the French Open champion, but this year everything is different and he will again be in doubt to be able to defend the title, there was quite a noticeable decline in his appearance. Source
The pictures shown of the invasion from the pests which covered those court cameras completely.
It was so bad the court officials had to call in beekeepers and they showed them using vacuums to transport the insects off site.
Found it quite amusing there is a movie in theatres called The Beekeeper with Jason Statham released a couple of weeks ago then this happens on court at a tournament where you rarely see a suspension of a match due to a bee invasion.
About Djokovic. Didn't know he was missing these tournaments due to his court surface preferences and preparing for the next one.
If this is the reason for missing this one at Indian Wells and possibly Miami, then that is his decision and probably better for his career since it will reflect for the winning percentage on his record. Which is what matters most to him at this point in his career.
Another win for Iga Swiatek beating Kostyuk quite convincingly 6-2 6-1 and it was looking as if her opponent was going to reitre due to a foot injury at the end of the first set. As her previous opponent Wozniacki had done starting the second set.
A very important challenge between Alcaraz and Sinner.
Not only for winning the tournament but also for the ATP ranking.
If Sinner managed to beat the Spanish player, he would gain the number two position in the world for the 1st time in his carrier.
They have just decided the time of the match which will be played tomorrow evening at 8pm, European time.
Jokovic however is still very far away in the leaderboard with a massive amount of points ahead of both.
Not only for winning the tournament but also for the ATP ranking.
If Sinner managed to beat the Spanish player, he would gain the number two position in the world for the 1st time in his carrier.
They have just decided the time of the match which will be played tomorrow evening at 8pm, European time.
Jokovic however is still very far away in the leaderboard with a massive amount of points ahead of both.
I haven't had my eyes on the ATP ranking all the time, but yesterday or I saw that it must have been a while ago when for the last time two players were so close to Djokovic. I know the last time it was Alcaraz when he kicked Djokovic of the throne, but now that Djokovic got eliminated from Indian Wells, Sinner and Alcaraz can both make a good step forward in his direction. This was an unexpected and hefty loss for Djokovic, but he will get over it. He has these moments, I think more often in the tournaments that are not Grand Slams, but still Indian Wells is a big one. Huge game though Sinner vs. Alcaraz and I am undecided who could be the winner.
Ah TBH I havent felt any sort if pity for any Djokovic loss over the last few years,
he is a super Tennis player, has won everything a couple of times and has earned enough
from it to probably trump what we here on this thread earn in a lifetime. He's is doing
alright for himself!
I agree that the semi final later on is more about getting to this final, its points too.
I think we now have 2 definite next generation players to take over from the Top 3
(fab 4) and with Medvedev, Ruud and Zverev Tennis is in good shape.
I watched a replay if Zverev v Alcaraz and K have to say Alcaraz is in top form and
I really fear for Sinners chances to beat him today. The odds have closed a bit to
reflect this 1.73 v 2.05. I hope I'm wrong though, would love to see Sinner continue
his run!
A very important challenge between Alcaraz and Sinner.
Not only for winning the tournament but also for the ATP ranking.
If Sinner managed to beat the Spanish player, he would gain the number two position in the world for the 1st time in his carrier.
They have just decided the time of the match which will be played tomorrow evening at 8pm, European time.
Jokovic however is still very far away in the leaderboard with a massive amount of points ahead of both.
Not only for winning the tournament but also for the ATP ranking.
If Sinner managed to beat the Spanish player, he would gain the number two position in the world for the 1st time in his carrier.
They have just decided the time of the match which will be played tomorrow evening at 8pm, European time.
Jokovic however is still very far away in the leaderboard with a massive amount of points ahead of both.
I haven't had my eyes on the ATP ranking all the time, but yesterday or I saw that it must have been a while ago when for the last time two players were so close to Djokovic. I know the last time it was Alcaraz when he kicked Djokovic of the throne, but now that Djokovic got eliminated from Indian Wells, Sinner and Alcaraz can both make a good step forward in his direction. This was an unexpected and hefty loss for Djokovic, but he will get over it. He has these moments, I think more often in the tournaments that are not Grand Slams, but still Indian Wells is a big one. Huge game though Sinner vs. Alcaraz and I am undecided who could be the winner.
A very important challenge between Alcaraz and Sinner.
Not only for winning the tournament but also for the ATP ranking.
If Sinner managed to beat the Spanish player, he would gain the number two position in the world for the 1st time in his carrier.
They have just decided the time of the match which will be played tomorrow evening at 8pm, European time.
Jokovic however is still very far away in the leaderboard with a massive amount of points ahead of both.
Not only for winning the tournament but also for the ATP ranking.
If Sinner managed to beat the Spanish player, he would gain the number two position in the world for the 1st time in his carrier.
They have just decided the time of the match which will be played tomorrow evening at 8pm, European time.
Jokovic however is still very far away in the leaderboard with a massive amount of points ahead of both.
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