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Quote from: babygun on March 23, 2024, 05:36:41 AM

Quote from: aoluain on March 22, 2024, 03:11:47 AM

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Yea and I agree with you there too but unfortunately we cant manufacture our own player
pool, that will happen organically. On a positive note the GOAT's have laid down a legacy and
a target for other players to work hard to try and emulate their successes. There are records
there which I would like to see broken, hopefully there is someone to do that.

And also from a betting point of view, there is definitely money to be made when there are
the likes of those top 3 players around.

And on top players Sinner plays today against countryman Vavassori and is 1.02 favourite,
best to parlay him with someone else like Humbert 1.23 who plays against van de Zandshulp
and maybe Paul 1.10 who plays Damm?

There is really no use in using that odds in parlays; yes they are the big favorite but surprises always happen and there is simply no value in odds like that. Everybody has a different strategy but more often than not, the bet with the lowest odd in a parlay will fail. I don't really play a lot of parlays anymore, prefer single value bets.

Totally agree with this. Odds that low are usually not worth it. I am always looking for handicaps in situations like that. I mean we all agree Sinner is favorite but if bookies are offering 1.02 on his win and 1.6 on his opponent covering 6.5 handicap I know which one I am taking.

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Quote from: aoluain on March 22, 2024, 03:11:47 AM

^
Yea and I agree with you there too but unfortunately we cant manufacture our own player
pool, that will happen organically. On a positive note the GOAT's have laid down a legacy and
a target for other players to work hard to try and emulate their successes. There are records
there which I would like to see broken, hopefully there is someone to do that.

And also from a betting point of view, there is definitely money to be made when there are
the likes of those top 3 players around.

And on top players Sinner plays today against countryman Vavassori and is 1.02 favourite,
best to parlay him with someone else like Humbert 1.23 who plays against van de Zandshulp
and maybe Paul 1.10 who plays Damm?

There is really no use in using that odds in parlays; yes they are the big favorite but surprises always happen and there is simply no value in odds like that. Everybody has a different strategy but more often than not, the bet with the lowest odd in a parlay will fail. I don't really play a lot of parlays anymore, prefer single value bets.

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Quote from: serveria.com on March 22, 2024, 03:20:48 PM

Rainy day in Miami today so matches got delayed.

The most anticipated encounters include:

Rublev v Machac
Humbert v v.d. Zandschulp
Shapovalov v Tsitsipas

Nothing happening ATM in Miami, everything is suspended because of extreme
weather. A few matches got played, among them Rublev v Machac. Rublev was beaten
in 2 sets 4-6, 4-6. The Czech player is continuing his great performance.

Humbert beat van de Zandschulp too as I expected 6-4, 6-3.
On the WTA side Sabalenka beat Badosa and wins also for Gauff, Navarro and
Azarenko.

Looking at the weather forecast it doesnt look like there will be any matches played
until tomorrow.

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Rainy day in Miami today so matches got delayed.

The most anticipated encounters include:

Rublev v Machac
Humbert v v.d. Zandschulp
Shapovalov v Tsitsipas

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^
Yea and I agree with you there too but unfortunately we cant manufacture our own player
pool, that will happen organically. On a positive note the GOAT's have laid down a legacy and
a target for other players to work hard to try and emulate their successes. There are records
there which I would like to see broken, hopefully there is someone to do that.

And also from a betting point of view, there is definitely money to be made when there are
the likes of those top 3 players around.

And on top players Sinner plays today against countryman Vavassori and is 1.02 favourite,
best to parlay him with someone else like Humbert 1.23 who plays against van de Zandshulp
and maybe Paul 1.10 who plays Damm?

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Quote from: aoluain on March 21, 2024, 03:46:00 AM

Quote from: temple on March 20, 2024, 03:31:42 PM

Ah yes the 3 way competition has been discussed a few times but do we have to have a 3 top
players like Federer, Djokovich and Nadal all the time? It had been brilliant for everyone to
witness that era of those 3 players but things change, we might have only 2 going forward for
the next 10+ years or there might not be a even 2 dominant players.

Its an interesting discussion, would Tennis suffer if all the competitions over the next 10 years
was to be won by a mixture of players in the top10? would that not be refreshing?

If I could make a comparison to F1 in the mid 90's and early 00's when Michael Schumacher was
racing and won almost every race and won 7 drivers championships, for me F1 became Veeeeery
boring and I switched off.

Ok that didnt happen when we had the 3[4] top players in Tennis but I dont think it would be a
bad think if we didnt have that scenario again.

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Its an interesting discussion, would Tennis suffer if all the competitions over the next 10 years
was to be won by a mixture of players in the top10? would that not be refreshing?

I agree with you, but there is an important differentiation that should be made. Let's take a scale of 1-10 where a 1 is a bad player and a 10 is the highest a player can achieve. If over the course of the next ten years we will see a mixture of players win the titles, then it would be amazing if that mixture of players has an average of 9+. If it means that the whole sport experiences a significant drop in quality and the mixture of players averages a 6, it would be bad. If one player is a 10 and five players are hunting the best player down to steal titles from him, then I am cool with it.

Federer, Nadal and Djokovic all were a 10 like Messi and Ronaldo in football were a 10. Formula 1 is a bit different because so much depends on the car and overall the technology. I am certainly ok with several players owning the tennis courts, but please let them be high quality players. But I admit that being spoiled can be a problem. Witnessing Messi vs. Ronaldo in the same league in football and the three GOATS in tennis is a pretty unique situation.

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A lot of people will be watching Monfils, he is having a great season lately and is definitely
a contender for another quarter final at least.

Anyone watch the Murray v Berrettini match yesterday? was it me or was it a tedious 2 hours
and 48 minutes watch over 3 sets?

Berrettini and Murray both had great shots and were kind of on similar levels, Berrettini was
obviously just coming back to playing high intensity tennis but couldnt beat Murray.
It would be nice to see him increase his form but has a long way to go IMO.

On the WTA side, I'm following Osaka again, she won yesterday against a player I havent
heard of before that I can remember Cocciaretto. Osaka plays Svitolina tomorrow, big
challenge ahead.

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Auger Aliassime vs Adam Walton
Walton came through the qualifiers, but both the players he beat were clay court players and were not really tested at this level. Felix, on the other hand, has not been able to reach the level he dreamed of, but he is one step ahead with his effective serve and powerful forehand.

Dusan Lajovic Vs Gael Monfils
Gael Monfils narrowly missed the quarterfinals in Indian Wells and will try his luck this time in Miami. The experienced racket is playing very professional tennis at the last stage of his career. Lajovic, on the other hand, is not very effective on hard courts. I see Monfils one step ahead.

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Quote from: temple on March 20, 2024, 03:31:42 PM

Quote from: aoluain on March 19, 2024, 07:33:30 AM

Quote from: temple on March 18, 2024, 12:13:10 PM

Quote from: aoluain on March 18, 2024, 04:13:03 AM

I would have thought he didnt know what to do in the second set because Alcaraz was
everywhere, he was definitely the dominant player of that set and played at a higher level
than the first, it took him 3 games to get going in the first set. I think against anyone else
apart from maybe Sinner or Djokovic as Serveria.com points out Medvedev would have
had a better day out.

I know its a bit premature to say but at that level yesterday I can see anyone beating
Alcaraz in Miami

Alcaraz put in the right effort at the right time. That is exactly the way how you beat Medvedev. Once you broke him mentally, it comes down to avoiding unforced errors and not bring him back into the game with your own weakness. I think that playing against Medvedev can then even become easy. It is the first set often times. Of course Medvedev had games where he was able to come back, but it doesn't happen very often and most of the time once he got broken, he is broken for the whole game.

Now we will see whetehr Alcaraz is about to have a good run this year or whether he will show his second face once again anytime soon and loses games that he is supposed to dominate normally.

But not everyone can play like Alcaraz, and to keep up such a performance for a full match.
It will be very interesting to see if he can keep that level of performance up. I would love to
see him in the final of Miami against Sinner!
I think they are opposite ends of the draw so it looks possible . . .

Agree and I think Sinner and Alcaraz at the moment are the only players who could be able to build a real legacy over many years. There are obviously many good players, but none of them seems to be stable enough to get something big going. Zverev has good games, then crashes. Tsitsipas has amazing games, then crashes. Medvedev has meltdowns all the time, but somehow manages to reach finals quite often.

Alcaraz has the potential to become someone like Nadal or any of the GOATS. But I think for everyone of us who likes tennis, it become more and more evident that we have been spoiled over all those years. The chance to have a three-way competition like Federer, Djokovic and Nadal at the same time is extremely slight.

Ah yes the 3 way competition has been discussed a few times but do we have to have a 3 top
players like Federer, Djokovich and Nadal all the time? It had been brilliant for everyone to
witness that era of those 3 players but things change, we might have only 2 going forward for
the next 10+ years or there might not be a even 2 dominant players.

Its an interesting discussion, would Tennis suffer if all the competitions over the next 10 years
was to be won by a mixture of players in the top10? would that not be refreshing?

If I could make a comparison to F1 in the mid 90's and early 00's when Michael Schumacher was
racing and won almost every race and won 7 drivers championships, for me F1 became Veeeeery
boring and I switched off.

Ok that didnt happen when we had the 3[4] top players in Tennis but I dont think it would be a
bad think if we didnt have that scenario again.

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Quote from: aoluain on March 19, 2024, 07:33:30 AM

Quote from: temple on March 18, 2024, 12:13:10 PM

Quote from: aoluain on March 18, 2024, 04:13:03 AM

I would have thought he didnt know what to do in the second set because Alcaraz was
everywhere, he was definitely the dominant player of that set and played at a higher level
than the first, it took him 3 games to get going in the first set. I think against anyone else
apart from maybe Sinner or Djokovic as Serveria.com points out Medvedev would have
had a better day out.

I know its a bit premature to say but at that level yesterday I can see anyone beating
Alcaraz in Miami

Alcaraz put in the right effort at the right time. That is exactly the way how you beat Medvedev. Once you broke him mentally, it comes down to avoiding unforced errors and not bring him back into the game with your own weakness. I think that playing against Medvedev can then even become easy. It is the first set often times. Of course Medvedev had games where he was able to come back, but it doesn't happen very often and most of the time once he got broken, he is broken for the whole game.

Now we will see whetehr Alcaraz is about to have a good run this year or whether he will show his second face once again anytime soon and loses games that he is supposed to dominate normally.

But not everyone can play like Alcaraz, and to keep up such a performance for a full match.
It will be very interesting to see if he can keep that level of performance up. I would love to
see him in the final of Miami against Sinner!
I think they are opposite ends of the draw so it looks possible . . .

Agree and I think Sinner and Alcaraz at the moment are the only players who could be able to build a real legacy over many years. There are obviously many good players, but none of them seems to be stable enough to get something big going. Zverev has good games, then crashes. Tsitsipas has amazing games, then crashes. Medvedev has meltdowns all the time, but somehow manages to reach finals quite often.

Alcaraz has the potential to become someone like Nadal or any of the GOATS. But I think for everyone of us who likes tennis, it become more and more evident that we have been spoiled over all those years. The chance to have a three-way competition like Federer, Djokovic and Nadal at the same time is extremely slight.

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Quote from: serveria.com on March 19, 2024, 12:47:17 PM

Some of today's headlines:

Sabalenka's bf passed away at the age of 42! Shocking loss for the world #2 right before the Miami Masters tournament! Sad

Tonight we're going to witness the return of the former world's #1 Simona Halep. The Romanian will be back on court just 9 months into her 4 year ban. The was allowed to compete after a successful appeal. Tonight she's going to face Paula Badosa. That is going to be fun!

Yea those two are best friends, it will be difficult for both of them I'm sure. Is it a
bit strange that Sabalenka is actually playing? I believe she was out practicing
the morning after the BF incident.

Quote from: vennali on March 19, 2024, 05:46:12 PM

Quote from: serveria.com on March 19, 2024, 12:47:17 PM

Yes, I want to warn people from wagering on Sabalenka. Apparently, it was a suicide which makes the situation a lot more traumatic for Sabalenka. Sabalenka has notified that she will play the tournament and was seen on practice courts today but she's mentioned that she won't be doing or attending any press conference.

Well as I said above it seems like it hasnt phased her.

Up next is Murray v Berrettini!
The Italian is slight favourite at 1.71 compared to 2.1 for Murray, I dont think I would
bet on any, hard to pick a winner for this one. Its interesting to see Berrettini back and
being favourite. The conditions are hot and humid, that will take its toll on the players.

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Quote from: serveria.com on March 19, 2024, 12:47:17 PM

Some of today's headlines:

Sabalenka's bf passed away at the age of 42! Shocking loss for the world #2 right before the Miami Masters tournament! Sad

Yes, I want to warn people from wagering on Sabalenka. Apparently, it was a suicide which makes the situation a lot more traumatic for Sabalenka. Sabalenka has notified that she will play the tournament and was seen on practice courts today but she's mentioned that she won't be doing or attending any press conference.

Quote from: serveria.com on March 19, 2024, 12:47:17 PM

Tonight we're going to witness the return of the former world's #1 Simona Halep. The Romanian will be back on court just 9 months into her 4 year ban. The was allowed to compete after a successful appeal. Tonight she's going to face Paula Badosa. That is going to be fun!

Simona is finally back in for competitive tennis after serving the shortened suspension after getting caught taking in banned substances, which she says she was unaware of and her medications were contaminated. Badosa has hit a rut herself with sub par performances as well as retiring twice in her past 5 matches.

Badosa came out on top in her encounter against Halep after losing the first set 1-6. She managed to turn the match around winning the next 2 sets 6-4,6-3. All in all, it was a decent show from Halep after being out of the competitive Tennis scene for a long time. The former world no.1 (Halep) is ranked 1138 in the world at the moment and will need a few more wildcards in upcoming tournaments to up her rankings or she'll have to go through the grind of playing ITF and challenger circuit. Which will be physically draining and financially, won't be optimal for her.

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Some of today's headlines:

Sabalenka's bf passed away at the age of 42! Shocking loss for the world #2 right before the Miami Masters tournament! Sad

Tonight we're going to witness the return of the former world's #1 Simona Halep. The Romanian will be back on court just 9 months into her 4 year ban. The was allowed to compete after a successful appeal. Tonight she's going to face Paula Badosa. That is going to be fun!

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Quote from: temple on March 18, 2024, 12:13:10 PM

Quote from: aoluain on March 18, 2024, 04:13:03 AM

I would have thought he didnt know what to do in the second set because Alcaraz was
everywhere, he was definitely the dominant player of that set and played at a higher level
than the first, it took him 3 games to get going in the first set. I think against anyone else
apart from maybe Sinner or Djokovic as Serveria.com points out Medvedev would have
had a better day out.

I know its a bit premature to say but at that level yesterday I can see anyone beating
Alcaraz in Miami

Alcaraz put in the right effort at the right time. That is exactly the way how you beat Medvedev. Once you broke him mentally, it comes down to avoiding unforced errors and not bring him back into the game with your own weakness. I think that playing against Medvedev can then even become easy. It is the first set often times. Of course Medvedev had games where he was able to come back, but it doesn't happen very often and most of the time once he got broken, he is broken for the whole game.

Now we will see whetehr Alcaraz is about to have a good run this year or whether he will show his second face once again anytime soon and loses games that he is supposed to dominate normally.

But not everyone can play like Alcaraz, and to keep up such a performance for a full match.
It will be very interesting to see if he can keep that level of performance up. I would love to
see him in the final of Miami against Sinner!
I think they are opposite ends of the draw so it looks possible . . .

Quote from: vennali on March 19, 2024, 07:23:42 AM

Emma Raducanu withdraws from the Miami Open due to back injury. She's just 21 and has been sidelined more than playing in her young career. Can she ever reach her full potential? She's won the US Open om 2021, which was 3 years ago but has barely played since. She's earning more money from endorsements than actually playing tennis and winning, at the moment. Don't know how long will that last.

Ah poor Emma, after the US open win she looked like she had a massive career ahead but yea
nobody knows the future.
I would say it is possible for her to be a strong performer in the future but it wont be instant,
she has to get game time and if she is injured so much it will be difficult.
On the endorsements, I think they will only last so long, I imagine they will evaporate at some stage.

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Emma Raducanu withdraws from the Miami Open due to back injury. She's just 21 and has been sidelined more than playing in her young career. Can she ever reach her full potential? She's won the US Open om 2021, which was 3 years ago but has barely played since. She's earning more money from endorsements than actually playing tennis and winning, at the moment. Don't know how long will that last.

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Quote from: aoluain on March 18, 2024, 04:13:03 AM

I would have thought he didnt know what to do in the second set because Alcaraz was
everywhere, he was definitely the dominant player of that set and played at a higher level
than the first, it took him 3 games to get going in the first set. I think against anyone else
apart from maybe Sinner or Djokovic as Serveria.com points out Medvedev would have
had a better day out.

I know its a bit premature to say but at that level yesterday I can see anyone beating
Alcaraz in Miami

Alcaraz put in the right effort at the right time. That is exactly the way how you beat Medvedev. Once you broke him mentally, it comes down to avoiding unforced errors and not bring him back into the game with your own weakness. I think that playing against Medvedev can then even become easy. It is the first set often times. Of course Medvedev had games where he was able to come back, but it doesn't happen very often and most of the time once he got broken, he is broken for the whole game.

Now we will see whetehr Alcaraz is about to have a good run this year or whether he will show his second face once again anytime soon and loses games that he is supposed to dominate normally.

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I would have thought he didnt know what to do in the second set because Alcaraz was
everywhere, he was definitely the dominant player of that set and played at a higher level
than the first, it took him 3 games to get going in the first set. I think against anyone else
apart from maybe Sinner or Djokovic as Serveria.com points out Medvedev would have
had a better day out.

I know its a bit premature to say but at that level yesterday I can see anyone beating
Alcaraz in Miami

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Quote from: cryptofrka on March 18, 2024, 04:02:44 AM

Quote from: rdbase on March 17, 2024, 05:48:21 PM

What is wrong with Medvedev?

His mentality is often like this. If he'd won the 1st TB, he'd have played a lot better.
He has huge fluctuations in the matches he's playing, you can never know what to expect.

On his dominant surface he shouldn't ever be losing sets like the 2nd one he lost yesterday.

Alcaraz is a deserved winner after all, he beat Zverev, Sinner and Medvedev for the title. By far the most difficult draw from all players in the tournament.

Yeah, in fact only Djokovic in his draw would have made it harder! Grin

Alcaraz showed some great performance, perhaps his best this year, but Medvedev was not on top of his game too, that's true! He had runny nose and was coughing intermittently so I suspect he was a bit sick. Definitely not an excuse, but that's what I spotted during the changeovers.

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Quote from: rdbase on March 17, 2024, 05:48:21 PM

What is wrong with Medvedev?

His mentality is often like this. If he'd won the 1st TB, he'd have played a lot better.
He has huge fluctuations in the matches he's playing, you can never know what to expect.

On his dominant surface he shouldn't ever be losing sets like the 2nd one he lost yesterday.

Alcaraz is a deserved winner after all, he beat Zverev, Sinner and Medvedev for the title. By far the most difficult draw from all players in the tournament.

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Quote from: vennali on March 16, 2024, 09:49:36 PM

Carlos got the better of Sinner to reach the finals. Sinner won the first set but Carlos made a comeback to win the semis. Now, Medvedev is playing shockingly poorly during the first set, losing the set 1-6 against Tommy Paul. 2nd set is on the way. Medvedev is still the favourite to win the match, after losing the first set. 1.8x on him, might be a decent gamble. Medvedev if he fixes his shortcomings, he has a bigger upsides than Tommy Paul.

What is wrong with Medvedev?
Thought he played alot better than the way he is looking now into the second set of the finals.
He is playing poorly just like he did during the match yesterday against Paul in the first set.
Carlos Alcaraz is looking like he will take this Indian Wells final the way he has been playing with those amazing shots. Just like his match against Sinner, his form is 100% and showing how good those aerobatic skills of his really are.
Can't see this one going into another tie breaker as with the first set. Carlos is currently dominating Daniil with being up 4-1 in the second set.

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