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Quote from: Kemarit on September 24, 2021, 10:09:20 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on September 24, 2021, 12:58:55 PM

I wouldnt bet on Murray if i knew he was gone a win. He is not close to his prime at all. Hurkacz can go really far im this tournament maybe even win it. Rune has a really hard challenge and will take something big from him to win against Carreno Busta.

Carreno Busta already won in three sets against Rune and will be facing Monfils in the semifinals.
I like Carreno Busta chances against Monfils. So Murray lost, it is expected already, but it good to see him at least winning in this tournament and progressing, but it's obvious that he is no longer on his prime.
I'm expecting the two top seeds to meet in the finals, Hurkacz vs Carreno Busta.

In a head-to-head, Monfils has won 3 times whereas Carreno Busta has won 2 times. I think even this time Monfils will win. Monfils has been on the scene since 2004 compared to Busta starting his career in 2009. So Monfils definitely has the experience needed and though he is aged than Busta, but I feel like he will win. And Murray has left his prime time way before and now maybe he's just playing for fun. I would have liked it if he had won some more tournaments but his time is nearing very fast.

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I just came across this news and was very surprised:
''Emma Raducanu: British number one splits with coach after US Open win''

Okay, I understand that she thinks she needs a little more experienced coach but it seems to me that she could have shown a little more respect and gratitude to the current coach, who obviously helped her a lot to achieve the greatest success in life.
In fact, it is not unusual for tennis players to have more coaches and a bigger team behind them, which helps them.
One of my favorite tennis players, Murray, has lost a tennis match again and he is further and further away from the expected return to the top of world tennis.
This is his statement after the match:

"I'm not that interested in playing well and losing. I want to be winning these matches. But the consistency this week was better than it was over in the States," Murray said.
"My goal's not to get in the top 100. I would want to get back in the top 10, [that] would be more something that would motivate me in terms of a goal. Winning tournaments and getting up towards the top of the rankings is motivating to me.

Do you think these plans are realistic?

Sources: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/58682151
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Quote from: blue Snow on September 23, 2021, 08:52:01 PM

Has anyone watched the J&T Banka Ostrava Open? it doesn't seem so festive, even though I saw there are some famous women like Sakarri and Martincova where she can meet on quarter-final today.
Martincova has won on 16 rounds vs Pavlyuchenkova while Sakarri has won vs Ostapenko on 16 rounds yesterday. I think Sakari will win the match and going to the semifinal.

I watched the game between Sakkari and Ostapenko and Sakkari destroyed Ostpenko in straight 6-2 6-4. For me Sakkari looks really good in this tournament and i think she can even win it if she continues to play like this. Should be an easy win against Martincova in todays match

Yeah, lots of potential on Sakkari.

Lost my parlay bet on the Metz Open, and regarding Andy Murray march on this tournament, it has ended as he lost to the top seed Hurkacz in straight sets, 7-6, 6-3. So Hurkacz will be facing Gojowczyk in the quarterfinals. Then Carreno-Busta vs Rune on the other hand. I bet both top seeds are going to win in 3 sets.

I wouldnt bet on Murray if i knew he was gone a win. He is not close to his prime at all. Hurkacz can go really far im this tournament maybe even win it. Rune has a really hard challenge and will take something big from him to win against Carreno Busta.

Carreno Busta already won in three sets against Rune and will be facing Monfils in the semifinals.

I like Carreno Busta chances against Monfils. So Murray lost, it is expected already, but it good to see him at least winning in this tournament and progressing, but it's obvious that he is no longer on his prime.

I'm expecting the two top seeds to meet in the finals, Hurkacz vs Carreno Busta.

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Anyone going to be following the Laver Cup?

The second game is being played now, Berrettini v Felix AA, and he looks like he will
take that first set.

Its 1-0 to Team Europe after Ruud beat Opelka in 2 sets.

Team World should really fancy their chances this year with the Big 3 missing for
Team Europe although we have a very strong team with, Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Rublev,
Zverev, Ruud, Berrettini and Lopez.

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Quote from: Jating on September 24, 2021, 12:01:18 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on September 24, 2021, 04:32:10 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on September 23, 2021, 08:52:01 PM

Has anyone watched the J&T Banka Ostrava Open? it doesn't seem so festive, even though I saw there are some famous women like Sakarri and Martincova where she can meet on quarter-final today.
Martincova has won on 16 rounds vs Pavlyuchenkova while Sakarri has won vs Ostapenko on 16 rounds yesterday. I think Sakari will win the match and going to the semifinal.

I watched the game between Sakkari and Ostapenko and Sakkari destroyed Ostpenko in straight 6-2 6-4. For me Sakkari looks really good in this tournament and i think she can even win it if she continues to play like this. Should be an easy win against Martincova in todays match

Yeah, lots of potential on Sakkari.

Lost my parlay bet on the Metz Open, and regarding Andy Murray march on this tournament, it has ended as he lost to the top seed Hurkacz in straight sets, 7-6, 6-3. So Hurkacz will be facing Gojowczyk in the quarterfinals. Then Carreno-Busta vs Rune on the other hand. I bet both top seeds are going to win in 3 sets.

I wouldnt bet on Murray if i knew he was gone a win. He is not close to his prime at all. Hurkacz can go really far im this tournament maybe even win it. Rune has a really hard challenge and will take something big from him to win against Carreno Busta.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 24, 2021, 04:32:10 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on September 23, 2021, 08:52:01 PM

Has anyone watched the J&T Banka Ostrava Open? it doesn't seem so festive, even though I saw there are some famous women like Sakarri and Martincova where she can meet on quarter-final today.
Martincova has won on 16 rounds vs Pavlyuchenkova while Sakarri has won vs Ostapenko on 16 rounds yesterday. I think Sakari will win the match and going to the semifinal.

I watched the game between Sakkari and Ostapenko and Sakkari destroyed Ostpenko in straight 6-2 6-4. For me Sakkari looks really good in this tournament and i think she can even win it if she continues to play like this. Should be an easy win against Martincova in todays match

Yeah, lots of potential on Sakkari.

Lost my parlay bet on the Metz Open, and regarding Andy Murray march on this tournament, it has ended as he lost to the top seed Hurkacz in straight sets, 7-6, 6-3. So Hurkacz will be facing Gojowczyk in the quarterfinals. Then Carreno-Busta vs Rune on the other hand. I bet both top seeds are going to win in 3 sets.

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Quote from: casperBGD on September 24, 2021, 01:58:17 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on September 24, 2021, 01:45:28 AM

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@Kemarit I’ll second your analysis about the women’s side, but I feel it’s only a matter of time before we see a consistent champion and I’m eagerly waiting to see who it’ll be. Lastly the men’s side is getting more difficult with each tournament and with Nadal fading away only Djokovic is left from the old guard, and I wonder how long will he be able to keep up against the young talents.

which young talents are you talking about?
all players that we are mentioning (Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas) are above 23 years - Nadal had five RG trophies at that age, they are not that young, although much younger than Djokovic
it is easy to see that there is no new talents in men tennis, maybe Alcaraz would prove me wrong, or Sinner, but I would not count above mentioned three as young talents, they are great players, but certainly not young anymore, and not close to previous top three

You are correct they are good players but sadly their timing is also not good even now they are coming out of shadows, and we have something good from their side but still Djokovic and Nadal presence is tough for them and their age for this game is also not as we have last 3 guards because day by day we are losing many things which was unique in past too many players stay 15 to 20 years in court but now injuries and other many issues giving them not time like this they have very short period, so they can't do records like we have from 3 guards in future.

Andy Murray lost in straight sets against Hurkacz No 1 ranked for this tournament in first set Murray done good resistance but in second he was helpless.

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Quote from: blue Snow on September 23, 2021, 08:52:01 PM

Has anyone watched the J&T Banka Ostrava Open? it doesn't seem so festive, even though I saw there are some famous women like Sakarri and Martincova where she can meet on quarter-final today.
Martincova has won on 16 rounds vs Pavlyuchenkova while Sakarri has won vs Ostapenko on 16 rounds yesterday. I think Sakari will win the match and going to the semifinal.

I watched the game between Sakkari and Ostapenko and Sakkari destroyed Ostpenko in straight 6-2 6-4. For me Sakkari looks really good in this tournament and i think she can even win it if she continues to play like this. Should be an easy win against Martincova in todays match

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Quote from: blue Snow on September 23, 2021, 08:52:01 PM

Has anyone watched the J&T Banka Ostrava Open? it doesn't seem so festive, even though I saw there are some famous women like Sakarri and Martincova where she can meet on quarter-final today.
Martincova has won on 16 rounds vs Pavlyuchenkova while Sakarri has won vs Ostapenko on 16 rounds yesterday. I think Sakari will win the match and going to the semifinal.

A few days ago I watched the match between Martincova vs Siniakova but didn't finish it, and this post surprised me a bit because Martincova was able to win and advance to round 16.
Regarding the festivities, women's special tournament often doesn't get much attention, even though when compared to men, winner is often more surprising, especially on major tournament.
Swiatek vs Rybakina both my favorite player, 3 sets very likely.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on September 23, 2021, 12:55:43 AM

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Federer and Nadal will have to go first, and Djokovic which is the younger of the 3 will be the one. And then we have new set of big 3, most probably Medvedev, Tsitsipas and Zverev. That's how the cycle goes for any sports for that matter, new generations are going to come in and replace the old guard.

I don't think the new incoming big players will be as good as the outgoing ones. It's a very unusual situation to have three players as good as Federer, Nadal and Djokovic all playing at the same time. They each have 20 slams, which is crazy... but imagine the situation if we'd only had one of these players, without the other two - whoever it was would probably have 30 slams at least, likely more.

Why not? Before we have McEnroe, Borg and then Lendl. And then we have Sampras, Agassi and Courier. So it's just the era, maybe if Nadal and Federer retires, a new set of big 3 will emerge in the likes of Medvedev, Tsitsipas and Zverev.

Quote from: Cnut237 on September 23, 2021, 12:55:43 AM

And it's unlucky for Murray that he was playing at the same time as these three... of none of them had been there, he would likely have won 10 slams instead of 3.

Sadly it's true, just like in basketball, there are a lot of NBA greats in the 90's. Unfortunately, they played on the era of the greatest, Michael Jordan.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 24, 2021, 01:45:28 AM

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@Kemarit I’ll second your analysis about the women’s side, but I feel it’s only a matter of time before we see a consistent champion and I’m eagerly waiting to see who it’ll be. Lastly the men’s side is getting more difficult with each tournament and with Nadal fading away only Djokovic is left from the old guard, and I wonder how long will he be able to keep up against the young talents.

which young talents are you talking about?
all players that we are mentioning (Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas) are above 23 years - Nadal had five RG trophies at that age, they are not that young, although much younger than Djokovic
it is easy to see that there is no new talents in men tennis, maybe Alcaraz would prove me wrong, or Sinner, but I would not count above mentioned three as young talents, they are great players, but certainly not young anymore, and not close to previous top three

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 23, 2021, 09:04:34 PM

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What keeps me watching is to see how far the next gen players get and if they can overcome the
top 3, like Medvedev did in the U.S open, thats interesting.

I also like the womens side too, its very open with a lot of contenders for titles.
Look at the U.S open this year, 2 names which made the womens side very exciting
playing a really entertaining brand of tennis, Raducanu and Fernandez.

In men, we can say we will have some tough competition between top ranked players like Medvedev Tsitsipas and Zverve but in women side we have some very quick changes because on this side after few top ranked players like Steffi Graf Monica Sales and Martina Hinges only lady with good record in William after her, we have nothing consistent because many are facing some different type issues so here we will not able to have some world-class lady who can stay for long time but again on men side we will be able to have two or three players will stay for very long time on court for their good game.

Women's side has always been very interesting to watch, specially now that we have two sensations, Raducanu and Fernandez. And there's no one dominating the game, as we can see there's always a different champion. Yeah, since Williams is no longer in her prime, there's no one that can replace her because so many ladies are upcoming, Osaka could be one, however, her game has deteriorated, there's no one that is consistent.

In the men's its hard to predict, you can also analyze base on the surface that they play. For instance Tsitsipas is known to be good on clay, so it's good to bet on him when he is playing his favorite surface.

@Kemarit I’ll second your analysis about the women’s side, but I feel it’s only a matter of time before we see a consistent champion and I’m eagerly waiting to see who it’ll be. Lastly the men’s side is getting more difficult with each tournament and with Nadal fading away only Djokovic is left from the old guard, and I wonder how long will he be able to keep up against the young talents.

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What keeps me watching is to see how far the next gen players get and if they can overcome the
top 3, like Medvedev did in the U.S open, thats interesting.

I also like the womens side too, its very open with a lot of contenders for titles.
Look at the U.S open this year, 2 names which made the womens side very exciting
playing a really entertaining brand of tennis, Raducanu and Fernandez.

In men, we can say we will have some tough competition between top ranked players like Medvedev Tsitsipas and Zverve but in women side we have some very quick changes because on this side after few top ranked players like Steffi Graf Monica Sales and Martina Hinges only lady with good record in William after her, we have nothing consistent because many are facing some different type issues so here we will not able to have some world-class lady who can stay for long time but again on men side we will be able to have two or three players will stay for very long time on court for their good game.

Women's side has always been very interesting to watch, specially now that we have two sensations, Raducanu and Fernandez. And there's no one dominating the game, as we can see there's always a different champion. Yeah, since Williams is no longer in her prime, there's no one that can replace her because so many ladies are upcoming, Osaka could be one, however, her game has deteriorated, there's no one that is consistent.

In the men's its hard to predict, you can also analyze base on the surface that they play. For instance Tsitsipas is known to be good on clay, so it's good to bet on him when he is playing his favorite surface.

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Has anyone watched the J&T Banka Ostrava Open? it doesn't seem so festive, even though I saw there are some famous women like Sakarri and Martincova where she can meet on quarter-final today.
Martincova has won on 16 rounds vs Pavlyuchenkova while Sakarri has won vs Ostapenko on 16 rounds yesterday. I think Sakari will win the match and going to the semifinal.

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Yes, I agree completely. The men's side of the US Open I didn't really pay any attention to, it was inevitable that Djokovic would get to the final. Even when he was a set down in a lot of matches, there was never any doubt. Even if he went two sets down, I wouldn't have any doubt that he would reach the final. The only real surprise is that he lost the final, which I think is due largely to the pressure he felt at being on the brink of winning all four slams in the same year.
Of course there were some good matches, and some exciting new players coming through... but when you know that Djokovic will beat everyone he plays, it does take away some of the interest.

I don't really agree. I still like Men's tennis more than the Women just because of the pace, the shots they can play, ... Even if you know that somebody of the big 3 will win, I still like to watch it as it is entertaining (most of the times).

What keeps me watching is to see how far the next gen players get and if they can overcome the
top 3, like Medvedev did in the U.S open, thats interesting.
I also like the womens side too, its very open with a lot of contenders for titles.
Look at the U.S open this year, 2 names which made the womens side very exciting
playing a really entertaining brand of tennis, Raducanu and Fernandez.

Male Tennis has been a bit predictable for some time, there are only a handful of players we see in the semi-finals or sometimes in the finals as well. But I have a feeling that this might change in the coming years or two. The senior players are aging fast and it is only a matter of time that the big 3 eras will eventually come to an end. Djokovic is still in very good form but he is aging. Nadal and Federer are kind of out of the picture now and players like Medvedev and Zverev are stepping their game up.

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Quote from: aoluain on September 23, 2021, 02:20:14 PM

What keeps me watching is to see how far the next gen players get and if they can overcome the
top 3, like Medvedev did in the U.S open, thats interesting.

I also like the womens side too, its very open with a lot of contenders for titles.
Look at the U.S open this year, 2 names which made the womens side very exciting
playing a really entertaining brand of tennis, Raducanu and Fernandez.

In men, we can say we will have some tough competition between top ranked players like Medvedev Tsitsipas and Zverve but in women side we have some very quick changes because on this side after few top ranked players like Steffi Graf Monica Sales and Martina Hinges only lady with good record in William after her, we have nothing consistent because many are facing some different type issues so here we will not able to have some world-class lady who can stay for long time but again on men side we will be able to have two or three players will stay for very long time on court for their good game.

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Quote from: babygun on September 23, 2021, 06:00:50 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on September 23, 2021, 05:45:29 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on September 23, 2021, 04:08:43 AM

in most GS, all rounds to semi-finals were not that interesting, since you know that tournament has three secured spots in semi-final, and just one player could join these three [...]
men tennis is not that interesting at the moment, because you already know winners

Yes, I agree completely. The men's side of the US Open I didn't really pay any attention to, it was inevitable that Djokovic would get to the final. Even when he was a set down in a lot of matches, there was never any doubt. Even if he went two sets down, I wouldn't have any doubt that he would reach the final. The only real surprise is that he lost the final, which I think is due largely to the pressure he felt at being on the brink of winning all four slams in the same year.

Of course there were some good matches, and some exciting new players coming through... but when you know that Djokovic will beat everyone he plays, it does take away some of the interest.

I don't really agree. I still like Men's tennis more than the Women just because of the pace, the shots they can play, ... Even if you know that somebody of the big 3 will win, I still like to watch it as it is entertaining (most of the times).

What keeps me watching is to see how far the next gen players get and if they can overcome the
top 3, like Medvedev did in the U.S open, thats interesting.

I also like the womens side too, its very open with a lot of contenders for titles.
Look at the U.S open this year, 2 names which made the womens side very exciting
playing a really entertaining brand of tennis, Raducanu and Fernandez.

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Quote from: babygun on September 23, 2021, 06:00:50 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on September 23, 2021, 05:45:29 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on September 23, 2021, 04:08:43 AM

in most GS, all rounds to semi-finals were not that interesting, since you know that tournament has three secured spots in semi-final, and just one player could join these three [...]
men tennis is not that interesting at the moment, because you already know winners

Yes, I agree completely. The men's side of the US Open I didn't really pay any attention to, it was inevitable that Djokovic would get to the final. Even when he was a set down in a lot of matches, there was never any doubt. Even if he went two sets down, I wouldn't have any doubt that he would reach the final. The only real surprise is that he lost the final, which I think is due largely to the pressure he felt at being on the brink of winning all four slams in the same year.
Of course there were some good matches, and some exciting new players coming through... but when you know that Djokovic will beat everyone he plays, it does take away some of the interest.

I don't really agree. I still like Men's tennis more than the Women just because of the pace, the shots they can play, ... Even if you know that somebody of the big 3 will win, I still like to watch it as it is entertaining (most of the times).

It's true that Djokovic is one of the best players in the world so he is supposed to win and that does somewhat effect the mindset of the viewers. But to me him being the best player in the world is the exact reason why I like to see him play. I don't want to nitpick but I think women's open just doesn't bring the same amount of skill that the men's open does.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on September 23, 2021, 05:45:29 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on September 23, 2021, 04:08:43 AM

in most GS, all rounds to semi-finals were not that interesting, since you know that tournament has three secured spots in semi-final, and just one player could join these three [...]
men tennis is not that interesting at the moment, because you already know winners

Yes, I agree completely. The men's side of the US Open I didn't really pay any attention to, it was inevitable that Djokovic would get to the final. Even when he was a set down in a lot of matches, there was never any doubt. Even if he went two sets down, I wouldn't have any doubt that he would reach the final. The only real surprise is that he lost the final, which I think is due largely to the pressure he felt at being on the brink of winning all four slams in the same year.

Of course there were some good matches, and some exciting new players coming through... but when you know that Djokovic will beat everyone he plays, it does take away some of the interest.

I don't really agree. I still like Men's tennis more than the Women just because of the pace, the shots they can play, ... Even if you know that somebody of the big 3 will win, I still like to watch it as it is entertaining (most of the times).

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Quote from: casperBGD on September 23, 2021, 04:08:43 AM

in most GS, all rounds to semi-finals were not that interesting, since you know that tournament has three secured spots in semi-final, and just one player could join these three [...]
men tennis is not that interesting at the moment, because you already know winners

Yes, I agree completely. The men's side of the US Open I didn't really pay any attention to, it was inevitable that Djokovic would get to the final. Even when he was a set down in a lot of matches, there was never any doubt. Even if he went two sets down, I wouldn't have any doubt that he would reach the final. The only real surprise is that he lost the final, which I think is due largely to the pressure he felt at being on the brink of winning all four slams in the same year.

Of course there were some good matches, and some exciting new players coming through... but when you know that Djokovic will beat everyone he plays, it does take away some of the interest.

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