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legendary
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September 18, 2021, 03:25:25 PM
Medvedev is handsome.   Smiley
But I did not understand why the hell he collapsed on the court like a dead fish and showed everyone his tongue.   Huh
This is a stupid gesture, I do not approve of it. 
Although the victory was certainly a big grief for the Djokovic.
I wouldn't take that gesture to seriously as it wasn't meant to be disrespectful or anything like that. He had just beaten the strongest tennis player in the world in straight three sets in a Grand Slam tournament. Not sure if we would be able to control our emotions fully and don't make a weird gesture as well. He deserved this one although I am still shocked that game ended 3 - 0. I wonder if anyone placed a bet on that result? Cheesy

I think some bets on that match cost people a lot of money. But that's what betting is, sometimes one gets lucky, sometimes one gets broke. and about the gesture, we honestly have seen people make different kinds of gestures in the past, and some got heavily punished for those. But as a sportsman, he's representing his country on one of the biggest stages. So he should keep his certain emotions in check. But depending on the adrenaline rush of human body, it can be really hard to do at times. Again, it's not about being guilty or not, it's about the little kid who thinks of the sportsperson as his idol.

Oh indeed, Djokovic was the favorite for everyone. I talked to so many people, I was myself bloody certain he is going to go for the 21st Grand Slam title, and yet Medvedev got in his way. And seriously I just watched his gesture again, that gesture was just peaceful and in no way disrespectful. He even had a double fault to 40 : 30, imagine his pressure. No, that gesture isn't something I'd particularly dislike about his match.
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September 18, 2021, 12:06:01 PM
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It's just that Medvedev is a big fan of the FIFA series of games, so he decided to demonstrate a gesture from this game  Wink However, Medvedev promised not to repeat such an action again, because he hit his foot at the same time and received a bruise. In any case, Daniel went to this for two years and therefore decided to celebrate in the most unusual way possible and at the same time understandable to people familiar with the nuances and of course there is no disregard for the audience and the opponent. Especially after the match, Djokovic and Medvedev spoke respectfully about each other both directly at the awarding of prizes and then on social networks.

What we can know from the celebration is that Medvedev is a big FIFA fan. He won his first-ever grand slam and he wanted to make that more memorable by using something 'unique'.
He said that 'Only legends will understand' and by this, he meant Fifa players obviously. So this is a good sign, bringing something unique rather than the usual celebrations.
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September 18, 2021, 01:29:22 AM
But I did not understand why the hell he collapsed on the court like a dead fish and showed everyone his tongue.   Huh
This is a stupid gesture, I do not approve of it. 
Although the victory was certainly a big grief for the Djokovic.
It is goal celebration from FIFA game. There was lots of people who did not understand the gesture but there were also some who were thrilled by it.

Personally, I find i a bit strange, but I understand the idea and intentions behind it, so well done. Tennis is a sport that can use all the extra media attention and even few bad boys. It has been too long from last Kyrgios incident  Grin

Yeah, it was just a part of a celebration I guess. Kyrgios is gone for now, no more antics from him as compared to last year, not just in court but out court revelations (sleeping with a fan), and drama (Nadal bickering).  Grin

Anyone looking at the Istanbul Atp challenger tournament?

Just saw some odds, but I'm not familiar with the players name. Not sure if others are betting or skipping this one.

There's still a lot of tennis tournament going on around, just like the Istanbul ATP challenger.

But as you have said, this kind of tournament are relatively small so no known players are entering. Better just wait for other tournaments in the calendar like the Astana Open, and then we have Moselle Open or the Laver Cup in the US.
legendary
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September 17, 2021, 06:51:59 PM
Medvedev is handsome.   Smiley
But I did not understand why the hell he collapsed on the court like a dead fish and showed everyone his tongue.   Huh
This is a stupid gesture, I do not approve of it.  
Although the victory was certainly a big grief for the Djokovic.
I wouldn't take that gesture to seriously as it wasn't meant to be disrespectful or anything like that. He had just beaten the strongest tennis player in the world in straight three sets in a Grand Slam tournament. Not sure if we would be able to control our emotions fully and don't make a weird gesture as well. He deserved this one although I am still shocked that game ended 3 - 0. I wonder if anyone placed a bet on that result? Cheesy
I think some bets on that match cost people a lot of money. But that's what betting is, sometimes one gets lucky, sometimes one gets broke. and about the gesture, we honestly have seen people make different kinds of gestures in the past, and some got heavily punished for those. But as a sportsman, he's representing his country on one of the biggest stages. So he should keep his certain emotions in check. But depending on the adrenaline rush of human body, it can be really hard to do at times. Again, it's not about being guilty or not, it's about the little kid who thinks of the sportsperson as his idol.
It's just that Medvedev is a big fan of the FIFA series of games, so he decided to demonstrate a gesture from this game  Wink However, Medvedev promised not to repeat such an action again, because he hit his foot at the same time and received a bruise. In any case, Daniel went to this for two years and therefore decided to celebrate in the most unusual way possible and at the same time understandable to people familiar with the nuances and of course there is no disregard for the audience and the opponent. Especially after the match, Djokovic and Medvedev spoke respectfully about each other both directly at the awarding of prizes and then on social networks.
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September 17, 2021, 04:24:03 PM
Fun fact which I don't think anybody shared yet:
This year women's final had higher number of views then men's final. This really surprised me since it is usually the other way around and not even close. I guess people wanted to see new faces battling it on girls side and/or maybe we can attribute this to viewers in UK. I believe tennis is very big there and having their girl in the final must have been magnet for many to tune in.

That's surprising indeed especially as also in the men's final there were a lot of stakes on the table. Tennis is indeed big in UK (together with some other sports including track cycling) and we can only imagine what it would give if Radanescu would be able to win Wimbledon. Last British female winner dates already back from 1977.
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September 17, 2021, 02:45:52 PM
Medvedev is handsome.   Smiley
But I did not understand why the hell he collapsed on the court like a dead fish and showed everyone his tongue.   Huh
This is a stupid gesture, I do not approve of it. 
Although the victory was certainly a big grief for the Djokovic.
I wouldn't take that gesture to seriously as it wasn't meant to be disrespectful or anything like that. He had just beaten the strongest tennis player in the world in straight three sets in a Grand Slam tournament. Not sure if we would be able to control our emotions fully and don't make a weird gesture as well. He deserved this one although I am still shocked that game ended 3 - 0. I wonder if anyone placed a bet on that result? Cheesy

I think some bets on that match cost people a lot of money. But that's what betting is, sometimes one gets lucky, sometimes one gets broke. and about the gesture, we honestly have seen people make different kinds of gestures in the past, and some got heavily punished for those. But as a sportsman, he's representing his country on one of the biggest stages. So he should keep his certain emotions in check. But depending on the adrenaline rush of human body, it can be really hard to do at times. Again, it's not about being guilty or not, it's about the little kid who thinks of the sportsperson as his idol.
legendary
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September 17, 2021, 07:05:27 AM
Medvedev is handsome.   Smiley
But I did not understand why the hell he collapsed on the court like a dead fish and showed everyone his tongue.   Huh
This is a stupid gesture, I do not approve of it. 
Although the victory was certainly a big grief for the Djokovic.

I wouldn't take that gesture to seriously as it wasn't meant to be disrespectful or anything like that. He had just beaten the strongest tennis player in the world in straight three sets in a Grand Slam tournament. Not sure if we would be able to control our emotions fully and don't make a weird gesture as well. He deserved this one although I am still shocked that game ended 3 - 0. I wonder if anyone placed a bet on that result? Cheesy
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September 17, 2021, 06:50:10 AM
But I did not understand why the hell he collapsed on the court like a dead fish and showed everyone his tongue.   Huh
This is a stupid gesture, I do not approve of it. 
Although the victory was certainly a big grief for the Djokovic.
It is goal celebration from FIFA game. There was lots of people who did not understand the gesture but there were also some who were thrilled by it.

Personally, I find i a bit strange, but I understand the idea and intentions behind it, so well done. Tennis is a sport that can use all the extra media attention and even few bad boys. It has been too long from last Kyrgios incident  Grin

Yeah, it was just a part of a celebration I guess. Kyrgios is gone for now, no more antics from him as compared to last year, not just in court but out court revelations (sleeping with a fan), and drama (Nadal bickering).  Grin

Anyone looking at the Istanbul Atp challenger tournament?

Just saw some odds, but I'm not familiar with the players name. Not sure if others are betting or skipping this one.
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September 17, 2021, 06:34:22 AM
But I did not understand why the hell he collapsed on the court like a dead fish and showed everyone his tongue.   Huh
This is a stupid gesture, I do not approve of it. 
Although the victory was certainly a big grief for the Djokovic.
It is goal celebration from FIFA game. There was lots of people who did not understand the gesture but there were also some who were thrilled by it.

Personally, I find i a bit strange, but I understand the idea and intentions behind it, so well done. Tennis is a sport that can use all the extra media attention and even few bad boys. It has been too long from last Kyrgios incident  Grin
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September 17, 2021, 04:22:57 AM
The no1 position in tennis matters the most to the players.Who wouldnt like to finish first and stay first for a long time in tennis.Knowing you are the best currently in the world.But im still shocked that after 3 GS for Djokovic,Medvedev still has a chance to be first by the end of this year

Nah, not true at all. Ask any player if he'd rather win a GS or be at the no. 1 spot and they will all choose the GS win. No. 1 spot in tennis sometimes really does mean you are the best but can often mean that you simply play every tournament.

It is the same for the ATP finals - only the 8 best players of the year attend and they play for the no. 1 spot and it is more of an exhibition than a serious tournament. Even famous Masters 1000 tournaments carry more weight than the ATP finals.
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September 17, 2021, 02:18:04 AM
Medvedev is handsome.   Smiley
But I did not understand why the hell he collapsed on the court like a dead fish and showed everyone his tongue.   Huh
This is a stupid gesture, I do not approve of it. 
Although the victory was certainly a big grief for the Djokovic.
legendary
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September 17, 2021, 12:00:39 AM
@Juggy777 - yes that's what I'm trying to say, mathematically, Medvedev can't overtake him at the end of the year because there are tournaments that both are entered and chances are they can win it or at least least reach semi finals and earn ranking points. As for Nadal, we can't really say the same, hopefully he can bounce back and still win clay court tournaments.
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September 16, 2021, 12:11:59 PM
Fun fact which I don't think anybody shared yet:
This year women's final had higher number of views then men's final. This really surprised me since it is usually the other way around and not even close. I guess people wanted to see new faces battling it on girls side and/or maybe we can attribute this to viewers in UK. I believe tennis is very big there and having their girl in the final must have been magnet for many to tune in.

Yes, it's really surprising, maybe the ladies side, specially two teenagers attract more tennis fans to see instead of the Djokovic vs Medvedev, which they thought could all the way be Djokovic. And maybe fans wanted new faces in the ladies and what better to watch upcoming players Fernandez and Raducanu. So this is rejuvenate the womens side because for sure everyone are going to follow this two to whatever tournaments they enter and this could be a rivalry in the making.
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September 16, 2021, 11:35:42 AM
Fun fact which I don't think anybody shared yet:
This year women's final had higher number of views then men's final. This really surprised me since it is usually the other way around and not even close. I guess people wanted to see new faces battling it on girls side and/or maybe we can attribute this to viewers in UK. I believe tennis is very big there and having their girl in the final must have been magnet for many to tune in.

Another fun fact: Leylah Fernandez, who obviously has a break out tournament in the US Open, still a teenager just like her counterpart, Raducanu, has a Filipino blood. And we all know that Filipinos love to support their athletes, like Manny Pacquiao and they are proud if they see athletes of Filipino blood many names for themselves (Philippines also just won their first gold medal in the Olympics). There's a lot of billboards of Leylah around in the country as well. So maybe we can attribute the increase of viewership to Filipinos in Canada and in the Philippines and around the world.
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September 16, 2021, 11:23:05 AM
Fun fact which I don't think anybody shared yet:
This year women's final had higher number of views then men's final. This really surprised me since it is usually the other way around and not even close. I guess people wanted to see new faces battling it on girls side and/or maybe we can attribute this to viewers in UK. I believe tennis is very big there and having their girl in the final must have been magnet for many to tune in.
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September 16, 2021, 08:18:53 AM
I think that it's even theoretically impossible for Medvedev to take the no. 1 spot this season. He'll have a much better shot next year, when Đoković is defending 3 GS titles.

In tennis the no. 1 spot isn't that important anyway, it does show who collected the most points but personally, not who the best player during that year was.
For example - a player who played only Grand slams and won 3 of them would be behind a player who won 2 masters and lost 4 GS semi-finals.

The no1 position in tennis matters the most to the players.Who wouldnt like to finish first and stay first for a long time in tennis.Knowing you are the best currently in the world.But im still shocked that after 3 GS for Djokovic,Medvedev still has a chance to be first by the end of this year
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September 16, 2021, 04:25:07 AM
I think that it's even theoretically impossible for Medvedev to take the no. 1 spot this season. He'll have a much better shot next year, when Đoković is defending 3 GS titles.

In tennis the no. 1 spot isn't that important anyway, it does show who collected the most points but personally, not who the best player during that year was.
For example - a player who played only Grand slams and won 3 of them would be behind a player who won 2 masters and lost 4 GS semi-finals.
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September 16, 2021, 01:39:51 AM

Exactly, I doubt that Medvedev can overtake Djokovic at the end of the year even if he won all the tournaments. So probably next year will be big for both players, Djokovic aiming to remain at the top, while Medvedev is closing in. And there could be surprises as well that can take away their race for the top spot. There's still Zverev and Tsitsipas that might spoil Medvedev chances and then the wave of young guys, Alcaraz, Sinner.
I also think that Medvedev is unlikely to be able to fulfill this extra task.  First of all, Djokovic is an extremely strong fighter, able to easily recover, as I think, not only physically but also psychologically after this unfortunate loss.  However, the score of the match was such that it showed the equality of the rivals.  And of course, we must not forget the players you listed.  In any case, very interesting matches and events await us in the near future and next year. 
Let's watch ... Smiley
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September 15, 2021, 10:23:39 PM
It could be neck and neck between them, battling for #1.

If we are asking whether he can overtake Djokovic by the end of the year, then there's no need to look at current ranking points, and who has what from last year to drop.

Instead we only need to look at the race points, from the season so far. Medvedev has a 2,000 point deficit, or thereabouts. It's a big ask to overcome that by the end of the season. Even if he won everything, it would need Djokovic to score very very low points.

Exactly, I doubt that Medvedev can overtake Djokovic at the end of the year even if he won all the tournaments. So probably next year will be big for both players, Djokovic aiming to remain at the top, while Medvedev is closing in. And there could be surprises as well that can take away their race for the top spot. There's still Zverev and Tsitsipas that might spoil Medvedev chances and then the wave of young guys, Alcaraz, Sinner.

@Kemarit don’t we all know Djokovic’s history as he always bounces well from a loss, and I’m pretty sure that he’s not going to lose all the tournaments till the end of the year hence it’s safe that Medvedev won’t be able to dethrone him this year.

However next year both can have a fresh go at each other, and even Nadal should be fitter by then so it’ll be a really entertaining contest as to who’ll claim the top spot next year.
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September 15, 2021, 09:54:30 PM
It could be neck and neck between them, battling for #1.

If we are asking whether he can overtake Djokovic by the end of the year, then there's no need to look at current ranking points, and who has what from last year to drop.

Instead we only need to look at the race points, from the season so far. Medvedev has a 2,000 point deficit, or thereabouts. It's a big ask to overcome that by the end of the season. Even if he won everything, it would need Djokovic to score very very low points.

Exactly, I doubt that Medvedev can overtake Djokovic at the end of the year even if he won all the tournaments. So probably next year will be big for both players, Djokovic aiming to remain at the top, while Medvedev is closing in. And there could be surprises as well that can take away their race for the top spot. There's still Zverev and Tsitsipas that might spoil Medvedev chances and then the wave of young guys, Alcaraz, Sinner.
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