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October 05, 2021, 09:06:01 AM

That is the thing what i dont like about a women tennis is that the best players keep changing every month.Only Barty is holding currently the first place,but in matter of tournaments we keep seeing new winners and newcomers.No body expect that Raducanu to even come to the third round let alone win the US Open and on next tournament we will probobly have a new tennis player win the tournament or someone that isnt at all in the top 10.

Having new winners all the time is also exciting but just makes it very difficult to place a bet on lol. I don't think anybody in the current field for the Women tennis will dominate it the same as S.Williams has done it. I thought that maybe Osaka could step up to the plate as she already won 4 grandslams but she is not mentally stable enough.
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October 05, 2021, 08:12:45 AM
I only follow a handful of female tennis players and of those since Wimbledon and the US Open have come and gone I've had to look in on any and every fixtures I've never previously heard of just in case my following players happen to be appearing at those tournaments.  Does anyone else have that issue??  Admittedly, I've only been placing tennis bets for about six months now.

The womens game is very open, with the decline in Serena Williams' dominance there hasnt
been any one player able to dominate the others to the same extent.

The closest anyone has come in the same era is Sharapova. Wozniacki, Halep,
Muguruza, Barty, Kerber, Svitolina and Pliskova have all had their moments.

There are constantly new comers, recently Naomi Osaka and this year Raducanu.


That is the thing what i dont like about a women tennis is that the best players keep changing every month.Only Barty is holding currently the first place,but in matter of tournaments we keep seeing new winners and newcomers.No body expect that Raducanu to even come to the third round let alone win the US Open and on next tournament we will probobly have a new tennis player win the tournament or someone that isnt at all in the top 10.
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October 05, 2021, 07:40:41 AM
I only follow a handful of female tennis players and of those since Wimbledon and the US Open have come and gone I've had to look in on any and every fixtures I've never previously heard of just in case my following players happen to be appearing at those tournaments.  Does anyone else have that issue??  Admittedly, I've only been placing tennis bets for about six months now.

The womens game is very open, with the decline in Serena Williams' dominance there hasnt
been any one player able to dominate the others to the same extent.

The closest anyone has come in the same era is Sharapova. Wozniacki, Halep,
Muguruza, Barty, Kerber, Svitolina and Pliskova have all had their moments.

There are constantly new comers, recently Naomi Osaka and this year Raducanu.
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October 05, 2021, 06:09:06 AM
https://talksport.com/sport/tennis/956469/emma-raducanu-news-tim-henman-indian-wells-coach/

After reading this article its clear that Raducanu doesnt actually have a full time
coach in place for Indian Wells, does anyone else find that bizzare?

Parting ways with your coach who helps you win the U.S Open bringing you to a
#1 UK ranking and not have someone to take his place.


Yes it seems pretty weird to fire a coach that helped you to win one of the major titles in tennis bascially completely out of nowhere, but you never know what was the reason for that decision. Maybe they just didn't get on well anymore, or one of the two just completely lost grounding and is behaving like a superstar now...no one knows. I also think it is not that big of a deal to be without a coach for a tournament or even longer. As far as i know Nick kyrgios had no trainer for years now and it works pretty will for him and i don't think that he would perform better if he would have a coach on his side. I also think that experienced players like Djokovic or Nadal would not need a trainer at all.

Nick though is a different case, I mean is he coachable to begin with?  Grin

For Raducanu's case, maybe it was not really a coach by decision, it was just someone who accompany here in the US Open and now looking for a full time coach to help here to move in the next direction of career. Hopefully, she can pick up a good and experience coach, as he has the potential, very young, still teachable and can learn a lot through proper coaching and experience playing against the best.
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October 05, 2021, 04:36:34 AM
https://talksport.com/sport/tennis/956469/emma-raducanu-news-tim-henman-indian-wells-coach/

After reading this article its clear that Raducanu doesnt actually have a full time
coach in place for Indian Wells, does anyone else find that bizzare?

Parting ways with your coach who helps you win the U.S Open bringing you to a
#1 UK ranking and not have someone to take his place.


Yes it seems pretty weird to fire a coach that helped you to win one of the major titles in tennis bascially completely out of nowhere, but you never know what was the reason for that decision. Maybe they just didn't get on well anymore, or one of the two just completely lost grounding and is behaving like a superstar now...no one knows. I also think it is not that big of a deal to be without a coach for a tournament or even longer. As far as i know Nick kyrgios had no trainer for years now and it works pretty will for him and i don't think that he would perform better if he would have a coach on his side. I also think that experienced players like Djokovic or Nadal would not need a trainer at all.
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October 05, 2021, 04:34:27 AM
I only follow a handful of female tennis players and of those since Wimbledon and the US Open have come and gone I've had to look in on any and every fixtures I've never previously heard of just in case my following players happen to be appearing at those tournaments.  Does anyone else have that issue??  Admittedly, I've only been placing tennis bets for about six months now.
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October 05, 2021, 04:28:04 AM
https://talksport.com/sport/tennis/956469/emma-raducanu-news-tim-henman-indian-wells-coach/

After reading this article its clear that Raducanu doesnt actually have a full time
coach in place for Indian Wells, does anyone else find that bizzare?

Parting ways with your coach who helps you win the U.S Open bringing you to a
#1 UK ranking and not have someone to take his place.

From the article Henman is suggesting Raducanu will be making serious considerations
as to her coaching later in the year, sounds like he thinks Indian Wells is just for a bit of
practice and making an appearance....

Anyway the eyes of the tennis world will be on her, hooefully she can deal
with that and ignore it on the court.
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October 05, 2021, 02:57:13 AM
''Britain's US Open champion Emma Raducanu has been given a wildcard into the main draw of the WTA 1000 event.''

Will Raducanu with the new coach and under the burden of high expectations after winning the GS title continue with good games and victories?

It will be interesting to see how she copes. As I am from the UK, I hope she continues to win Smiley. Certainly there is a weight of expectation on her now, but I believe she is seeded (despite being a wildcard), which should in theory give her an easy-ish match to start with to settle any nerves.
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October 04, 2021, 02:09:06 PM
~snip
TBH im not put out that Djokovic is missing from IW, I want to see the new players
getting their chances. Whats more interesting is who is in, I.E Raducanu, Fernandez and Medvedev.

agree, he is out, but it counts who is in, to see what they can do
Djokovic will stay on no.1 nevertheless, and he does not need this tournament, and probably he is already tired, he will play more/less GS's next season IMO, other tournament as much he need to keep no.1 on the list, if everything goes well
will be interesting to see who will win it, but I doubt that Medvedev will be the one

Yea there has been an extended discussion about the loints difference between
Djokovic and Medvedev for the #1 spot, 2000 points foe Medvedev to make up.

Anyway yes It matters who is in, and we can keep an eye on Medvedev, Rublev, Ruud,
Zverev, Tsitsipas, Sinner, Swartzman, FAA.


agree, he is out, but it counts who is in, to see what they can do
Djokovic will stay on no.1 nevertheless, and he does not need this tournament, and probably he is already tired, he will play more/less GS's next season IMO, other tournament as much he need to keep no.1 on the list, if everything goes well
will be interesting to see who will win it, but I doubt that Medvedev will be the one

It is bad for the tournament that Djokovic pulls out but good for the rest of the field. Why do you think that Medvedev will not win it? I am tempted to place a (small) bet on him as he has the momentum with winning the US Open.

We have seen too many times where a player wins a tournament and  then in
the following tournament gets knocked out early but Medvedev has had a break
after winning the US open so should be rested, trained and focussed.
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October 04, 2021, 01:10:23 PM

agree, he is out, but it counts who is in, to see what they can do
Djokovic will stay on no.1 nevertheless, and he does not need this tournament, and probably he is already tired, he will play more/less GS's next season IMO, other tournament as much he need to keep no.1 on the list, if everything goes well
will be interesting to see who will win it, but I doubt that Medvedev will be the one

It is bad for the tournament that Djokovic pulls out but good for the rest of the field. Why do you think that Medvedev will not win it? I am tempted to place a (small) bet on him as he has the momentum with winning the US Open.
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October 04, 2021, 10:27:37 AM
~snip
TBH im not put out that Djokovic is missing from IW, I want to see the new players
getting their chances. Whats more interesting is who is in, I.E Raducanu, Fernandez and Medvedev.

agree, he is out, but it counts who is in, to see what they can do
Djokovic will stay on no.1 nevertheless, and he does not need this tournament, and probably he is already tired, he will play more/less GS's next season IMO, other tournament as much he need to keep no.1 on the list, if everything goes well
will be interesting to see who will win it, but I doubt that Medvedev will be the one
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October 04, 2021, 10:24:39 AM
Djokovic pulling out of the Indian Wells is a big blow to the tournament as they are disappointed to hear that he is skipping for this year. He didn't give any reason, but I will speculate that he just wanted to take a rest, after losing to Medvedev in the US Open. And I think he can still maintain his number 1 ranking at the end of the year.
Fun Fact: And this is the first time since 2000 that we won't see any big 3 in Indian Wells.

Pretty unfortunate for tennis fans in general. Not watching Sabalenka or Djokovic is saddening. But I think that he can still remain the no-1 till the end of the year. He got about 2000 points lead of Medvedev in the ranking points and maybe taking a break after that loss in the finals was important to him. Maybe he will freshen up, train harder and come back stronger next year. Pretty saddening to see the big 3 eras almost coming to an end.
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October 04, 2021, 07:05:43 AM
In the San Diego Open, Ruud winner in two sets, he just destroys Norrie, 6-2, 6-0, cover the handicap and even the under if you think that Ruud will win in two sets. Still good to see Norrie played very well in this tournament except the finals, maybe he was too drain in the Rublev match.

That was a surprise for me. Of course Ruud has been great this year, but still, I expected it would be a bit closer than this, even if Ruud was likely to be the winner. I don't think fatigue will play a part as men are used to playing best of 5 set matches in slams, so 3 setters should be no problem.

Ruud is also playing very well this year agree, but with how he dismantle Norrie who is riding on a big win against Rublev is really amazing.

Maybe is more of a psychological thing for Norrie, 6-0 in the second set? We never thought that he can be beaten by that score in the finals. I guess Ruud elevated his game on the second set and Norrie can't catch up.
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October 04, 2021, 06:50:32 AM
In the San Diego Open, Ruud winner in two sets, he just destroys Norrie, 6-2, 6-0, cover the handicap and even the under if you think that Ruud will win in two sets. Still good to see Norrie played very well in this tournament except the finals, maybe he was too drain in the Rublev match.

That was a surprise for me. Of course Ruud has been great this year, but still, I expected it would be a bit closer than this, even if Ruud was likely to be the winner. I don't think fatigue will play a part as men are used to playing best of 5 set matches in slams, so 3 setters should be no problem.
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October 04, 2021, 01:31:52 AM
@aoluain - Yeah, it was a big win by Sinner, at least we still see him win another tournament as he is slowly building up his confidence and experience. No doubt that he will win against Monfils in the finals, the kid is definitely improving a lot.

In the San Diego Open, Ruud winner in two sets, he just destroys Norrie, 6-2, 6-0, cover the handicap and even the under if you think that Ruud will win in two sets. Still good to see Norrie played very well in this tournament except the finals, maybe he was too drain in the Rublev match.

Yes I guess Norrie's final was against Rublev. He would have left a lot out on the court
by beating him. Ruud's win over him looks very flattering 6-0, 6-2. Ruud is a quality player,
ranked #10 and winning 5 out of 5 finals this year, thats impressive.

''World number two Aryna Sabalenka has been ruled out of the Indian Wells Masters after testing positive for Covid-19.''
It's too bad for Sabalenka because she was the first favorite to win this tournament.
Sabalenka said that she is feeling well for now and that she is very sorry that she can't perform in the tournament.
''Britain's US Open champion Emma Raducanu has been given a wildcard into the main draw of the WTA 1000 event.''
Will Raducanu with the new coach and under the burden of high expectations after winning the GS title continue with good games and victories?
''Men's world number one Novak Djokovic, 2018 champion Naomi Osaka and 23-time Grand Slam champion Serena Williams are among others also not competing in the event.''
If Djokovic no longer plays by the end of the year, he could lose first place in the tennis rankings and a chance for a new record.
What do you think?
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/58778566

It's very unfortunate for Sabalenka. This covid-19 has affected many lives and also the sports, Sabalenka is not indifferent over here. I was pretty sure that she would definitely make the finals in this tournament but maybe not anymore. And Raducanu is a young prodigy. She has got a new and experienced coach and I hope this new coach will help her get to new heights and achieve more in this tournament. Djokovic not playing in this one is very saddening. Does anyone know why exactly he won't play? He is no. 1 right now, but not playing till the end of the year might cost him the position. Medvedev is only 2 thousand points behind him.

Djokovic pulling out of the Indian Wells is a big blow to the tournament as they are disappointed to hear that he is skipping for this year. He didn't give any reason, but I will speculate that he just wanted to take a rest, after losing to Medvedev in the US Open. And I think he can still maintain his number 1 ranking at the end of the year.

Fun Fact: And this is the first time since 2000 that we won't see any big 3 in Indian Wells.

TBH im not put out that Djokovic is missing from IW, I want to see the new players
getting their chances. Whats more interesting is who is in, I.E Raducanu, Fernandez and Medvedev.
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October 03, 2021, 09:16:23 PM
''World number two Aryna Sabalenka has been ruled out of the Indian Wells Masters after testing positive for Covid-19.''
It's too bad for Sabalenka because she was the first favorite to win this tournament.
Sabalenka said that she is feeling well for now and that she is very sorry that she can't perform in the tournament.
''Britain's US Open champion Emma Raducanu has been given a wildcard into the main draw of the WTA 1000 event.''
Will Raducanu with the new coach and under the burden of high expectations after winning the GS title continue with good games and victories?
''Men's world number one Novak Djokovic, 2018 champion Naomi Osaka and 23-time Grand Slam champion Serena Williams are among others also not competing in the event.''
If Djokovic no longer plays by the end of the year, he could lose first place in the tennis rankings and a chance for a new record.
What do you think?
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/58778566

It's very unfortunate for Sabalenka. This covid-19 has affected many lives and also the sports, Sabalenka is not indifferent over here. I was pretty sure that she would definitely make the finals in this tournament but maybe not anymore. And Raducanu is a young prodigy. She has got a new and experienced coach and I hope this new coach will help her get to new heights and achieve more in this tournament. Djokovic not playing in this one is very saddening. Does anyone know why exactly he won't play? He is no. 1 right now, but not playing till the end of the year might cost him the position. Medvedev is only 2 thousand points behind him.

Djokovic pulling out of the Indian Wells is a big blow to the tournament as they are disappointed to hear that he is skipping for this year. He didn't give any reason, but I will speculate that he just wanted to take a rest, after losing to Medvedev in the US Open. And I think he can still maintain his number 1 ranking at the end of the year.

Fun Fact: And this is the first time since 2000 that we won't see any big 3 in Indian Wells.
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October 03, 2021, 08:12:35 PM
@aoluain - Yeah, it was a big win by Sinner, at least we still see him win another tournament as he is slowly building up his confidence and experience. No doubt that he will win against Monfils in the finals, the kid is definitely improving a lot.

In the San Diego Open, Ruud winner in two sets, he just destroys Norrie, 6-2, 6-0, cover the handicap and even the under if you think that Ruud will win in two sets. Still good to see Norrie played very well in this tournament except the finals, maybe he was too drain in the Rublev match.
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October 03, 2021, 11:35:12 AM
''World number two Aryna Sabalenka has been ruled out of the Indian Wells Masters after testing positive for Covid-19.''
It's too bad for Sabalenka because she was the first favorite to win this tournament.
Sabalenka said that she is feeling well for now and that she is very sorry that she can't perform in the tournament.
''Britain's US Open champion Emma Raducanu has been given a wildcard into the main draw of the WTA 1000 event.''
Will Raducanu with the new coach and under the burden of high expectations after winning the GS title continue with good games and victories?
''Men's world number one Novak Djokovic, 2018 champion Naomi Osaka and 23-time Grand Slam champion Serena Williams are among others also not competing in the event.''
If Djokovic no longer plays by the end of the year, he could lose first place in the tennis rankings and a chance for a new record.
What do you think?
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/58778566

It's very unfortunate for Sabalenka. This covid-19 has affected many lives and also the sports, Sabalenka is not indifferent over here. I was pretty sure that she would definitely make the finals in this tournament but maybe not anymore. And Raducanu is a young prodigy. She has got a new and experienced coach and I hope this new coach will help her get to new heights and achieve more in this tournament. Djokovic not playing in this one is very saddening. Does anyone know why exactly he won't play? He is no. 1 right now, but not playing till the end of the year might cost him the position. Medvedev is only 2 thousand points behind him.
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October 03, 2021, 10:32:16 AM
^^ Yeah, no one expected that Shapovalov will lost to Norrie in this tournament. Seems that Norrie is really on form this year as he recorded a lot of wins against top 20 opponents, really surprising how he outclassed Dennis in just 2 sets here.

He will be facing Rublev, not sure if he can continue to show his form against Rublev, maybe 3 sets again for Rublev? over 21.5?
Seems like norrie is really at top form he defeated rublev yesterday 2 1 and he was a set behind i did not expect that since rublev was doing really good recently and he will be facing casper ruud who defeated dimitrov 2 1 too and he is really difficult to beat i think we will se another 3 set match.

Right, surprising defeat, but Norrie has been playing very good in this tournaments, so he made it to the finals with two biggest upsets so far.

Casper Ruud is the second seed, so if by chance Norrie wins again, he has knock out the top 2 seed in Sand Diego Open and the 4th seed as well, Shapovalov. So it seems that Norrie has the momentum here, but I'm seeing Ruud ending Norrie's run in the finals.

I think its really too close to call for either to win, Norrie played great to stop Rublev,
not easy because he was playing quite well himself. Being no.2 seed Ruud should be able
to beat Norrie but yea that doesnt always play out.



The final of the Sofia Tournament just ended with a win for Sinner over Monfils, it was a
convincing and strong win by Sinner, 6-3, 6-4.
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October 03, 2021, 10:26:52 AM
^^ Yeah, no one expected that Shapovalov will lost to Norrie in this tournament. Seems that Norrie is really on form this year as he recorded a lot of wins against top 20 opponents, really surprising how he outclassed Dennis in just 2 sets here.

He will be facing Rublev, not sure if he can continue to show his form against Rublev, maybe 3 sets again for Rublev? over 21.5?
Seems like norrie is really at top form he defeated rublev yesterday 2 1 and he was a set behind i did not expect that since rublev was doing really good recently and he will be facing casper ruud who defeated dimitrov 2 1 too and he is really difficult to beat i think we will se another 3 set match.

Right, surprising defeat, but Norrie has been playing very good in this tournaments, so he made it to the finals with two biggest upsets so far.

Casper Ruud is the second seed, so if by chance Norrie wins again, he has knock out the top 2 seed in Sand Diego Open and the 4th seed as well, Shapovalov. So it seems that Norrie has the momentum here, but I'm seeing Ruud ending Norrie's run in the finals.
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