Some promising-looking matches at WTA Linz event tomorrow:
Yastremska v Vekic Yestremska is on fire after the most successful GS in her career so far.
Mertens v Bronzetti
Ostapenko v Tauson Tauson is yet to find her best tennis after the injury. Ostapenko is back into top 10 and looking dangerous and hungry for winning.
Potapova v Cocciaretto
I highlighted the probable winner in bold.
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^^ I do agree, he has a lot of money, I read one interview of his that what keeps him motivated is that he is still "winning". Not that he can get a Grand Slam, but probably just like he said, he wanted to compete and play and see how far he can go.
Maybe his body can play, but if you look at the rankings and his age, not sure if he can improved it or even break in the top 20 ranking if that is his goal.
He is what now? in his 20th season?
Maybe his body can play, but if you look at the rankings and his age, not sure if he can improved it or even break in the top 20 ranking if that is his goal.
He is what now? in his 20th season?
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BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?
No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.
We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.
At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
Andy just loves tennis and loves playing so much he just can't quit. I remember right after the hip surgery he had, doctors told him he shouldn't play or the artificial joint will wear out too quickly. I guess they mentioned something like 1-2 years. But Andy wants to play so bad he doesn't give a damn.
Ah but the thing is that he openly mentioned that he isnt enjoying his Tennis and hasnt been for a while.
He wants to try and get back to his former glory but everything is stacked against him, Mobility after
the hip surgery, age - he is actually at retirement age now, its only Djokovic of that generation who is left
and still competitive against the younger generations.
Anyway, it would be hard to bet on any Murray match now going forward.
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BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?
No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.
We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.
At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
Yeah, not sure though why he is still playing, is he financially motivated? but I don't think he earned money as he used to be. Maybe he is just enjoying at it is, he has nothing to proved already. And obviously, with his form I do agree that he will struggled with the young set of players.
It's really hard to retire unless this Legend will have to endure a career enjoying injuries. But we don't wish them like that, they should retire when their body is no longer cooperating with them, just like in the case of Murray.
I cannot imagine he needs the finances, he would have earned quite a lot from his tennis career,
here is an article after a quick search, not sure how factual this is but it gives an idea. . .
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Andy Murray career earnings
Combining on-court and off-court activity in the past few years, Murray makes anywhere between $10m-$15
million per annum across the calendar. Roughly, around $5 million (£4.07 million) per year comes from being
on the court, whilst the rest will be distributed through various sponsorship and endorsement agreements.
In total, his earnings on the court factoring in his whole career have amounted to around $62.9 million (£53.5 million).
Only Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, and Rafael Nadal exceed Murray in terms of take-home pay in the history of male tennis.
In 2013, the Scot was rumoured to have earned around $35 million (£28.5 million) in the calendar year, in a
combination of winning his first Wimbledon title and endorsement deals with the likes of Adidas, Bank of Scotland,
and Head Rackets.
Combining on-court and off-court activity in the past few years, Murray makes anywhere between $10m-$15
million per annum across the calendar. Roughly, around $5 million (£4.07 million) per year comes from being
on the court, whilst the rest will be distributed through various sponsorship and endorsement agreements.
In total, his earnings on the court factoring in his whole career have amounted to around $62.9 million (£53.5 million).
Only Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, and Rafael Nadal exceed Murray in terms of take-home pay in the history of male tennis.
In 2013, the Scot was rumoured to have earned around $35 million (£28.5 million) in the calendar year, in a
combination of winning his first Wimbledon title and endorsement deals with the likes of Adidas, Bank of Scotland,
and Head Rackets.
https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/tennis/news/andy-murray-net-worth-career-earnings-prize-money/ei0352vhzqmtcan3ybtfbnap
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BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?
No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.
We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.
At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
Andy just loves tennis and loves playing so much he just can't quit. I remember right after the hip surgery he had, doctors told him he shouldn't play or the artificial joint will wear out too quickly. I guess they mentioned something like 1-2 years. But Andy wants to play so bad he doesn't give a damn.
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BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?
No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.
We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.
At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
Yeah, not sure though why he is still playing, is he financially motivated? but I don't think he earned money as he used to be. Maybe he is just enjoying at it is, he has nothing to proved already. And obviously, with his form I do agree that he will struggled with the young set of players.
It's really hard to retire unless this Legend will have to endure a career enjoying injuries. But we don't wish them like that, they should retire when their body is no longer cooperating with them, just like in the case of Murray.
Quote from: aoluain
BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?
No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.
We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.
At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
I do agree and I would usually not say this because I don't like Medvedev that much, but here it can be said that both deserved to win the final. Medvedev played amazing in the first two sets and his precision was mind blowing. But then again when you consider the whole match and every single set by itself, I still think that Sinner was the deserved winner because he showed an amazing determination to make this miracle happen once he was two sets down. That alone deserves a lot of respect and he gave Medvedev such a hard fight that you could see in Medvedev's eyes how desperate he was to find the right shot against Sinner, but nothing could overcome Sinner anymore. It was an impressive game by both players and finally a great game despite the fact that none of the GOATs was there.
If Sinner had not dropped two sets at once, I think he would have won earlier, but he played horribly in those first sets and gave Medvedev a chance, which he unfortunately did not have time to take.
This is actually one of the very few matches where I have respect for Medvedev's performance. Normally he is not a player I like very much and I know that others feel the same. Obviously, the audience hardly ever support him or not at all if I am not mistaken. But in this game he behaved like a champ and fought to the end. He wasn't ranting all the time and not provoking the audience, he didn't give up until the end and he tried to deliver his best tennis. He was the player with the longest time ever standing on the court during an Australian Open tournament. It could literally be seen in his face that he reached his physical limit and that was Sinner's moment.
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BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?
No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.
We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.
At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
With the Australian Open coming to a close with the singles Champs in Italy's Jannik Sinner[Men] and Belarus's Arnya Sabalenka[Women]. In doubles, Rohan Bopanna(India) / Matthew Ebden(Australia) [Mens]. Women doubles Hsieh Su-Wei (Taiwan) / Elise Mertens (Belgium). While in mixed doubles Hsieh Su-wei(Taiwan) / Jan Zieliński(Poland).
It went under the radar as doubles and mixed doubles aren't half as popular as Singles but Hsieh Su-wei bags 2 grandslam titles in doubles which is incredible for a 38 year old. I don't see her playing singles much, anymore. Maybe that has been the key to conserving her body from wear and tear while focusing solely in doubles. Which has paid off tremendously. Speaking of veterans, my countryman Rohan Bopanna wins his first Grandslam title while also becoming the oldest one to do so. I think he's the oldest world no. 1 doubles player as well at the age of 43!!!
Who are your favs for the other grandslams this year? I think if Nadal doesn't play the French, Carlos Alcaraz might be the fav to win there, other than Novak. The other 2 tournaments, I'd put Sinner and Novak to be the favs to win.
Apparently you are right and Sinner is likely to be one of the top players in big tennis soon. Unfortunately for Medvedev, Sinner's arsenal of moves was higher and technically he is a more interesting tennis player than Medvedev, who takes persistence and character. It was obvious that Medvedev fought to the end, even though he was exhausted from the long matches.
If Sinner had not dropped two sets at once, I think he would have won earlier, but he played horribly in those first sets and gave Medvedev a chance, which he unfortunately did not have time to take.
We have currently few impressive players in new generation but no player having patience and quality like Sinner which is his best weapon while he was facing Medvedev in this final I watch all game, and I am really surprised with his calmness and play even after losing first two sets he has done good job and fight back with Medvedev was losing his patience which was also helpful for the Sinner this all showing how impressive he is, and he is surely going to have good future in front of him for the long time now who is going to give him company in this long race we are not sure.If Sinner had not dropped two sets at once, I think he would have won earlier, but he played horribly in those first sets and gave Medvedev a chance, which he unfortunately did not have time to take.
Medvedev as many mentioned a good player, but mostly he becomes nerves which is his weakness and just because of this now he already lost three finals and won only one Grand Slam in last four years he needs to work on this for having better results in the future.
I do agree and I would usually not say this because I don't like Medvedev that much, but here it can be said that both deserved to win the final. Medvedev played amazing in the first two sets and his precision was mind blowing. But then again when you consider the whole match and every single set by itself, I still think that Sinner was the deserved winner because he showed an amazing determination to make this miracle happen once he was two sets down. That alone deserves a lot of respect and he gave Medvedev such a hard fight that you could see in Medvedev's eyes how desperate he was to find the right shot against Sinner, but nothing could overcome Sinner anymore. It was an impressive game by both players and finally a great game despite the fact that none of the GOATs was there.
If Sinner had not dropped two sets at once, I think he would have won earlier, but he played horribly in those first sets and gave Medvedev a chance, which he unfortunately did not have time to take.
Honestly, I actually think he was trying to have a relaxing moment. After he saw that he had already got two sets and the opponent had zero, he probably took things a little easier and that is probably his downfall.
But I also agree that him playing such long matches in a very short time span might have also had a big effect on his performance.
But we also cannot take anything away from Sinner. He played incredibly well and it also takes a lot of willpower as well to make a comeback from a situation like that.
Medvedev is surely one of the best players in current era, but sadly this was his third lost in last four years while he was trying to win Australian Open with losing after winning two sets is surely more heartbreaker but still he has done good job, but we also need to give credit to Sinner who keep calm in all match and not create anything panic which is surely amazing and with this all he also deserved this win because usually after losing two sets players moral gone down with usually have nothing in control which helps them for staying at this level where we have Sinner in this final.But I also agree that him playing such long matches in a very short time span might have also had a big effect on his performance.
But we also cannot take anything away from Sinner. He played incredibly well and it also takes a lot of willpower as well to make a comeback from a situation like that.
After beating Djokovic his moral was already at the top but after losing two sets coming back with this way is surely giving how strong is this player and have impressive future ahead of him with this quality and mind-set.
2 sets down though is a lot to claw back from, the only one I can remember doing
it in a grand slam is Djokovic...
Well, Medvedev came back from 0:2 in a semi-final against Zverev. Or you meant GS finals?it in a grand slam is Djokovic...
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Yup and those young guns are Sinner, Alcaraz, Rune and Medvedev, and it will be
interesting to see what Zverev can do as the season progresses.
Young? Medvedev is 28, Zverev turning 27 this year. Sinner is 22, I guess we can call him young...interesting to see what Zverev can do as the season progresses.
Alcaraz, Shelton, Prizmic are next-gen players we should focus on. WTA tour: Andreeva, Fruhvirtova, Korneeva...
BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?
I wonder what the odds were on him when he went 2 sets down to Medvedev?
Was writing about it, but in different thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63571325
Oh wow Trofo, that was a great move.
Yea Sinner had only dropped 2 sets before the final and I guess if you were watching
and able to see his game improving it would be a great move.
2 sets down though is a lot to claw back from, the only one I can remember doing
it in a grand slam is Djokovic...
Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.
I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.
Jannik Sinner, who won his first grand slam title in this tournament, to tell you the truth, upset the tennis romantics, including me, a little bit. First he completely paralysed djokovic in the semifinals, djokovic was eliminated without even a break of serve point. His opponent in the final, Medvedev, is not from the generation of the nadal-federer-djokovic big three, but he is one of the stars of the next generation, which we can make a trio as medvedev-zverev-berrettini, and he has been playing in such finals for years. When Sinner didn't show any presence at all in the first two sets of the final match, I was in a good mood, there are still some points for him to improve, but what did this guy do; he took the next three sets and won the match. Jokes aside, it was a great success for him and I enjoy this fresh breath in tennis.I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.
I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.
Well I guess we have to move forward already, I mean, this is the new generation of tennis players, Djokovic is one man standing for the great generations they have. But now it's very different era and so the young guns are finally taking over.
Just hard breaking lost by Medvedev, but this is how someone become a champion. They elevated their games, just like the greats, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic. And as what @aoluain said, we've seen Djokovic giving up 2 sets early and then make a great comeback. So this one is for the books and congrats to those who ride on him after being down with that great odds.
Yup and those young guns are Sinner, Alcaraz, Rune and Medvedev, and it will be
interesting to see what Zverev can do as the season progresses.
Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.
I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.
Jannik Sinner, who won his first grand slam title in this tournament, to tell you the truth, upset the tennis romantics, including me, a little bit. First he completely paralysed djokovic in the semifinals, djokovic was eliminated without even a break of serve point. His opponent in the final, Medvedev, is not from the generation of the nadal-federer-djokovic big three, but he is one of the stars of the next generation, which we can make a trio as medvedev-zverev-berrettini, and he has been playing in such finals for years. When Sinner didn't show any presence at all in the first two sets of the final match, I was in a good mood, there are still some points for him to improve, but what did this guy do; he took the next three sets and won the match. Jokes aside, it was a great success for him and I enjoy this fresh breath in tennis.I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.
I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.
Well I guess we have to move forward already, I mean, this is the new generation of tennis players, Djokovic is one man standing for the great generations they have. But now it's very different era and so the young guns are finally taking over.
Just hard breaking lost by Medvedev, but this is how someone become a champion. They elevated their games, just like the greats, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic. And as what @aoluain said, we've seen Djokovic giving up 2 sets early and then make a great comeback. So this one is for the books and congrats to those who ride on him after being down with that great odds.
Medvedev himself experienced perhaps more emotions than he did to Zverev 3 days ago. It is really difficult to lose a match when you are leading 2-0 in sets. Especially if it is the championship final, it is even more difficult. Sinner showed a great example of struggle. It is not easy to turn the match from 2-0 against an opponent like Medvedev, but Sinner managed to do it.
Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.
Maybe Medvedev does have psychological problems, because this is not his first lost final. Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.
It seems that he was only able to beat Novak Djokovic once in 2021, and all other finals he lost.
Sinner played terribly in the first two sets and made almost every possible mistake and it was more his failure than Medvedev's, but then Sinner was able to pull himself together and win the match.
Of course for Medvedev this is the second five-set match in 24 hours and he probably couldn't take such a load.
So fatigue and psychology probably predetermined Medvedev's defeat in this final.
Yeah, Medvedev's fuel tank was almost empty after the 5-set match against Zverev. And yet, he had very good opportunities twice - he lost his serve game in the 3rd set while trailing 4:5, which eventually lead to losing the set and exactly the same carbon copy scenario in the 4th set - again 4:5 and again serve lost. I'm pretty sure if Medvedev would manage to take it into the tie breaker he would have an opportunity to win the match. In the 5th set Daniil was too tired, he even tried going to the net which he is not particularly comfortable with. Of course he lost points, but he was so desperate and tired to try anything else.
I do agree and I would usually not say this because I don't like Medvedev that much, but here it can be said that both deserved to win the final. Medvedev played amazing in the first two sets and his precision was mind blowing. But then again when you consider the whole match and every single set by itself, I still think that Sinner was the deserved winner because he showed an amazing determination to make this miracle happen once he was two sets down. That alone deserves a lot of respect and he gave Medvedev such a hard fight that you could see in Medvedev's eyes how desperate he was to find the right shot against Sinner, but nothing could overcome Sinner anymore. It was an impressive game by both players and finally a great game despite the fact that none of the GOATs was there.
Medvedev himself experienced perhaps more emotions than he did to Zverev 3 days ago. It is really difficult to lose a match when you are leading 2-0 in sets. Especially if it is the championship final, it is even more difficult. Sinner showed a great example of struggle. It is not easy to turn the match from 2-0 against an opponent like Medvedev, but Sinner managed to do it.
Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.
Maybe Medvedev does have psychological problems, because this is not his first lost final. Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.
It seems that he was only able to beat Novak Djokovic once in 2021, and all other finals he lost.
Sinner played terribly in the first two sets and made almost every possible mistake and it was more his failure than Medvedev's, but then Sinner was able to pull himself together and win the match.
Of course for Medvedev this is the second five-set match in 24 hours and he probably couldn't take such a load.
So fatigue and psychology probably predetermined Medvedev's defeat in this final.
Honestly, I actually think he was trying to have a relaxing moment. After he saw that he had already got two sets and the opponent had zero, he probably took things a little easier and that is probably his downfall.
But I also agree that him playing such long matches in a very short time span might have also had a big effect on his performance.
But we also cannot take anything away from Sinner. He played incredibly well and it also takes a lot of willpower as well to make a comeback from a situation like that.
Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.
I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.
Jannik Sinner, who won his first grand slam title in this tournament, to tell you the truth, upset the tennis romantics, including me, a little bit. First he completely paralysed djokovic in the semifinals, djokovic was eliminated without even a break of serve point. His opponent in the final, Medvedev, is not from the generation of the nadal-federer-djokovic big three, but he is one of the stars of the next generation, which we can make a trio as medvedev-zverev-berrettini, and he has been playing in such finals for years. When Sinner didn't show any presence at all in the first two sets of the final match, I was in a good mood, there are still some points for him to improve, but what did this guy do; he took the next three sets and won the match. Jokes aside, it was a great success for him and I enjoy this fresh breath in tennis.I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.
I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.
Medvedev served like a machine in the first two sets and Sinner made too many unforced errors when he had the chance for a proper return.
But Medvedev did include some variations into his game that he usually does not do. I was quite surprised by his tactics in that game, but I was also quite surprised by Sinner's inability to adjust to these circumstances. Sinner is a player who can adapt to new game situations, but whatever he tried during the first two sets (like stopballs), it didn't work out for him.
But then out of a sudden Medvedev lost strength. I have barely seen him being that exhausted and that was the turning point in the game.
Medvedev himself experienced perhaps more emotions than he did to Zverev 3 days ago. It is really difficult to lose a match when you are leading 2-0 in sets. Especially if it is the championship final, it is even more difficult. Sinner showed a great example of struggle. It is not easy to turn the match from 2-0 against an opponent like Medvedev, but Sinner managed to do it.
Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.
Maybe Medvedev does have psychological problems, because this is not his first lost final. Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.
It seems that he was only able to beat Novak Djokovic once in 2021, and all other finals he lost.
Sinner played terribly in the first two sets and made almost every possible mistake and it was more his failure than Medvedev's, but then Sinner was able to pull himself together and win the match.
Of course for Medvedev this is the second five-set match in 24 hours and he probably couldn't take such a load.
So fatigue and psychology probably predetermined Medvedev's defeat in this final.
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