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February 01, 2024, 05:03:52 AM
Some promising-looking matches at WTA Linz event tomorrow:

Ostapenko v Tauson  Tauson is yet to find her best tennis after the injury. Ostapenko is back into top 10 and looking dangerous and hungry for winning.


Tauson needs a breakthrough now. She was predicted to have a very bright career, but she never got there. This may be because of his character. She lacks ambition and Ruusuvuori has a similar situation. If there is no ambition, there is no success, unfortunately. Maybe being born and raised in countries like Denmark and Finland doesn't give you the confidence to fight and a leader's perspective. Ostapenko has been through an intense period and may be tired. Tauson might be fresher in this match and the match could be a challenging performance from both players.
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February 01, 2024, 03:50:18 AM
~snip~
Ostapenko is the only top ten players competing in Linz, and this opens up her opportunity to win her second singles title this year after Adelaide, and my prediction is that Yastremska will be one of her strongest opponents if both make it to the final, but sometimes in the women's section, surprises often occur where the unseeded beat the seed and reaches the final, and one more match today which will be quite even is Siniakova vs Burel and it looks like Burel has a better chance of getting to the quarterfinals
If it is true that they will meet in the final then it will be difficult for Ostapenko to beat Yastremska and get the title, so far Ostapenko has played very well but Yastremska also looks more dominant in every match she plays.
This will be quite an interesting final match if only they will meet in the final, after all there are still several matches remaining which will provide surprises like in every previous competition.
If surprise happens, perhaps these two players will not be able to meet in the final and of course it is still too early to say that they will be able to reach the final.
We have to wait to see how their next match will play out so that we can really be sure whether their meeting in the final can happen as predicted.

It just that I have little dependence on Ostapenko that he will be able to win the title.

I don't think it is going to be that hard for Ostapenko to actually beat Yastremska. But it also involves the current form of the player. If she can continue to play well I don't see any reason she is going to have any problems. But the biggest thing is consistency. If she is not consistent she can be beaten by almost anyone.

The thing is there are a lot of matches remaining. So anything can happen in this tournament. You know that the other players are also capable so probably we should not predict anything with certainty already.

Consistency is the main issue with Ostapenko. Her extremely powerful, ATP level shots from the baseline are deadly but sometimes she just can't get them inside the court. That is the reason she plays a lot of 3 set matches. Other than that, she has improved her serve, also fitness is a bit better than previous years. She is a bit overweight, but still moves somewhat better than last year.
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February 01, 2024, 01:16:05 AM
~snip~
Ostapenko is the only top ten players competing in Linz, and this opens up her opportunity to win her second singles title this year after Adelaide, and my prediction is that Yastremska will be one of her strongest opponents if both make it to the final, but sometimes in the women's section, surprises often occur where the unseeded beat the seed and reaches the final, and one more match today which will be quite even is Siniakova vs Burel and it looks like Burel has a better chance of getting to the quarterfinals
If it is true that they will meet in the final then it will be difficult for Ostapenko to beat Yastremska and get the title, so far Ostapenko has played very well but Yastremska also looks more dominant in every match she plays.
This will be quite an interesting final match if only they will meet in the final, after all there are still several matches remaining which will provide surprises like in every previous competition.
If surprise happens, perhaps these two players will not be able to meet in the final and of course it is still too early to say that they will be able to reach the final.
We have to wait to see how their next match will play out so that we can really be sure whether their meeting in the final can happen as predicted.

It just that I have little dependence on Ostapenko that he will be able to win the title.

I don't think it is going to be that hard for Ostapenko to actually beat Yastremska. But it also involves the current form of the player. If she can continue to play well I don't see any reason she is going to have any problems. But the biggest thing is consistency. If she is not consistent she can be beaten by almost anyone.

The thing is there are a lot of matches remaining. So anything can happen in this tournament. You know that the other players are also capable so probably we should not predict anything with certainty already.
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February 01, 2024, 12:37:17 AM
ATP Montpellier, Aleksander Bublik won in three sets against Dennis Shapovalov, and I was quite surprised that Dennis Shapovalov was outside the top 100 because he is a pretty good player, especially having been to the Wimbledon semifinals a few years ago and it was quite strange to see him unable to maintain his ranking to stay inside top 100.



That was a great game.
Didn't think Bublik would recover after getting crushed in the first set.
The tie break in the second was very entertaining to say the least . 26 points and back and forth with 2 match and 7 set points, with the better end for Bublik obviously.

When you see Shapavalov play you would never think he is number 137 in the world now. He missed like the last 6 months of 2023's season because of his knee, guess that cost him plenty of points.


It was a good comeback by Bublik. And he fought really well to win the second set. When he was able to win the second set I saw the momentum shifting. I also saw Shapovalov being a little disheartened. But it is also true that when you see him play you do not think that he is so low in the ranking. I do not think anyone expected him to perform so well against Bublik. I personally did not think the match would go so far and would be so competitive. I thought Shapovalov might get one set but nothing more than that. Definitely did not expect such competitive performance.
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February 01, 2024, 12:23:08 AM
~snip~
Ostapenko is the only top ten players competing in Linz, and this opens up her opportunity to win her second singles title this year after Adelaide, and my prediction is that Yastremska will be one of her strongest opponents if both make it to the final, but sometimes in the women's section, surprises often occur where the unseeded beat the seed and reaches the final, and one more match today which will be quite even is Siniakova vs Burel and it looks like Burel has a better chance of getting to the quarterfinals
If it is true that they will meet in the final then it will be difficult for Ostapenko to beat Yastremska and get the title, so far Ostapenko has played very well but Yastremska also looks more dominant in every match she plays.
This will be quite an interesting final match if only they will meet in the final, after all there are still several matches remaining which will provide surprises like in every previous competition.
If surprise happens, perhaps these two players will not be able to meet in the final and of course it is still too early to say that they will be able to reach the final.
We have to wait to see how their next match will play out so that we can really be sure whether their meeting in the final can happen as predicted.

It just that I have little dependence on Ostapenko that he will be able to win the title.
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January 31, 2024, 11:56:31 PM
ATP Montpellier, Aleksander Bublik won in three sets against Dennis Shapovalov, and I was quite surprised that Dennis Shapovalov was outside the top 100 because he is a pretty good player, especially having been to the Wimbledon semifinals a few years ago and it was quite strange to see him unable to maintain his ranking to stay inside top 100.



That was a great game.
Didn't think Bublik would recover after getting crushed in the first set.
The tie break in the second was very entertaining to say the least . 26 points and back and forth with 2 match and 7 set points, with the better end for Bublik obviously.

When you see Shapavalov play you would never think he is number 137 in the world now. He missed like the last 6 months of 2023's season because of his knee, guess that cost him plenty of points.
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January 31, 2024, 11:49:33 PM
ATP Montpellier, Aleksander Bublik won in three sets against Dennis Shapovalov, and I was quite surprised that Dennis Shapovalov was outside the top 100 because he is a pretty good player, especially having been to the Wimbledon semifinals a few years ago and it was quite strange to see him unable to maintain his ranking to stay inside top 100.

Some promising-looking matches at WTA Linz event tomorrow:

Yastremska v Vekic  Yestremska is on fire after the most successful GS in her career so far.
Mertens v Bronzetti
Ostapenko v Tauson  Tauson is yet to find her best tennis after the injury. Ostapenko is back into top 10 and looking dangerous and hungry for winning.
Potapova v Cocciaretto   

I highlighted the probable winner in bold.
Ostapenko is the only top ten players competing in Linz, and this opens up her opportunity to win her second singles title this year after Adelaide, and my prediction is that Yastremska will be one of her strongest opponents if both make it to the final, but sometimes in the women's section, surprises often occur where the unseeded beat the seed and reaches the final, and one more match today which will be quite even is Siniakova vs Burel and it looks like Burel has a better chance of getting to the quarterfinals
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January 31, 2024, 05:25:48 PM
Some promising-looking matches at WTA Linz event tomorrow:

Yastremska v Vekic  Yestremska is on fire after the most successful GS in her career so far.
Mertens v Bronzetti
Ostapenko v Tauson  Tauson is yet to find her best tennis after the injury. Ostapenko is back into top 10 and looking dangerous and hungry for winning.
Potapova v Cocciaretto   

I highlighted the probable winner in bold.
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January 31, 2024, 04:42:14 PM
^^ I do agree, he has a lot of money, I read one interview of his that what keeps him motivated is that he is still "winning". Not that he can get a Grand Slam, but probably just like he said, he wanted to compete and play and see how far he can go.

Maybe his body can play, but if you look at the rankings and his age, not sure if he can improved it or even break in the top 20 ranking if that is his goal.

He is what now? in his 20th season?
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January 31, 2024, 03:59:22 PM



Quote from: aoluain


BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?

No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.

We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.

At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
He's struggling, but he doesn't have a plan to announce his retirement. He fought well against Paire, but he wasn't able to make it his match. Soon after the match, he said most of the players in my situation will retire, but I don't want to be the most, and I'll fight and work to produce the performance he's capable of. Last year, he mentioned that if his play isn't satisfactory, he'll announce his retirement in December 2023, and it continues.

Andy just loves tennis and loves playing so much he just can't quit. I remember right after the hip surgery he had, doctors told him he shouldn't play or the artificial joint will wear out too quickly. I guess they mentioned something like 1-2 years. But Andy wants to play so bad he doesn't give a damn.  

Ah but the thing is that he openly mentioned that he isnt enjoying his Tennis and hasnt been for a while.
He wants to try and get back to his former glory but everything is stacked against him, Mobility after
the hip surgery, age - he is actually at retirement age now, its only Djokovic of that generation who is left
and still competitive against the younger generations.

Anyway, it would be hard to bet on any Murray match now going forward.




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BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?

No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.

We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.

At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.

Yeah, not sure though why he is still playing, is he financially motivated? but I don't think he earned money as he used to be. Maybe he is just enjoying at it is, he has nothing to proved already. And obviously, with his form I do agree that he will struggled with the young set of players.

It's really hard to retire unless this Legend will have to endure a career enjoying injuries. But we don't wish them like that, they should retire when their body is no longer cooperating with them, just like in the case of Murray.

I cannot imagine he needs the finances, he would have earned quite a lot from his tennis career,
here is an article after a quick search, not sure how factual this is but it gives an idea. . .

Quote
Andy Murray career earnings
Combining on-court and off-court activity in the past few years, Murray makes anywhere between $10m-$15
million per annum across the calendar. Roughly, around $5 million (£4.07 million) per year comes from being
on the court, whilst the rest will be distributed through various sponsorship and endorsement agreements.

In total, his earnings on the court factoring in his whole career have amounted to around $62.9 million (£53.5 million).
Only Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, and Rafael Nadal exceed Murray in terms of take-home pay in the history of male tennis.

In 2013, the Scot was rumoured to have earned around $35 million (£28.5 million) in the calendar year, in a
combination of winning his first Wimbledon title and endorsement deals with the likes of Adidas, Bank of Scotland,
and Head Rackets.

https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/tennis/news/andy-murray-net-worth-career-earnings-prize-money/ei0352vhzqmtcan3ybtfbnap
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January 30, 2024, 06:17:27 PM



Quote from: aoluain


BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?

No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.

We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.

At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
He's struggling, but he doesn't have a plan to announce his retirement. He fought well against Paire, but he wasn't able to make it his match. Soon after the match, he said most of the players in my situation will retire, but I don't want to be the most, and I'll fight and work to produce the performance he's capable of. Last year, he mentioned that if his play isn't satisfactory, he'll announce his retirement in December 2023, and it continues.

Andy just loves tennis and loves playing so much he just can't quit. I remember right after the hip surgery he had, doctors told him he shouldn't play or the artificial joint will wear out too quickly. I guess they mentioned something like 1-2 years. But Andy wants to play so bad he doesn't give a damn.  
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January 30, 2024, 06:16:32 PM



Quote from: aoluain


BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?

No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.

We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.

At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.

Yeah, not sure though why he is still playing, is he financially motivated? but I don't think he earned money as he used to be. Maybe he is just enjoying at it is, he has nothing to proved already. And obviously, with his form I do agree that he will struggled with the young set of players.

It's really hard to retire unless this Legend will have to endure a career enjoying injuries. But we don't wish them like that, they should retire when their body is no longer cooperating with them, just like in the case of Murray.
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January 30, 2024, 05:22:40 PM



Quote from: aoluain


BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?

No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.

We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.

At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
He's struggling, but he doesn't have a plan to announce his retirement. He fought well against Paire, but he wasn't able to make it his match. Soon after the match, he said most of the players in my situation will retire, but I don't want to be the most, and I'll fight and work to produce the performance he's capable of. Last year, he mentioned that if his play isn't satisfactory, he'll announce his retirement in December 2023, and it continues.
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January 30, 2024, 05:04:56 PM

Although he lost to the man who arguably deserved the trophy the most, Sinner, looking at the overall performance of the tournament, the way he lost is sad. Exactly the same as the aus open nadal final 2 years ago. Those who remember it will remember that after that loss, he could not recover for 1 year, he was eliminated against much lower level opponents than himself. It wouldn't be so devastating if he lost 3-0 and was crushed, but what would it hurt to bring it to 2-0 and not win in the same way as 2 years ago. I don't know if he will recover from here again, but the possibility of such a player closing his career with a single slam is sad.

I do agree and I would usually not say this because I don't like Medvedev that much, but here it can be said that both deserved to win the final. Medvedev played amazing in the first two sets and his precision was mind blowing. But then again when you consider the whole match and every single set by itself, I still think that Sinner was the deserved winner because he showed an amazing determination to make this miracle happen once he was two sets down. That alone deserves a lot of respect and he gave Medvedev such a hard fight that you could see in Medvedev's eyes how desperate he was to find the right shot against Sinner, but nothing could overcome Sinner anymore. It was an impressive game by both players and finally a great game despite the fact that none of the GOATs was there.
Apparently you are right and Sinner is likely to be one of the top players in big tennis soon. Unfortunately for Medvedev, Sinner's arsenal of moves was higher and technically he is a more interesting tennis player than Medvedev, who takes persistence and character. It was obvious that Medvedev fought to the end, even though he was exhausted from the long matches.

If Sinner had not dropped two sets at once, I think he would have won earlier, but he played horribly in those first sets and gave Medvedev a chance, which he unfortunately did not have time to take.

This is actually one of the very few matches where I have respect for Medvedev's performance. Normally he is not a player I like very much and I know that others feel the same. Obviously, the audience hardly ever support him or not at all if I am not mistaken. But in this game he behaved like a champ and fought to the end. He wasn't ranting all the time and not provoking the audience, he didn't give up until the end and he tried to deliver his best tennis. He was the player with the longest time ever standing on the court during an Australian Open tournament. It could literally be seen in his face that he reached his physical limit and that was Sinner's moment.
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Quote from: aoluain


BTW, any of you guys betting on UTR Pro Tennis events?

No but watching some matches at the ATP Montpellier in France.

We watched Murray v Paire, Paire went through in 3 sets. Not great Tennis but entertaining
anyway. Murray just isnt enjoying his Tennis, he has said that but he really needs to finish up.

At this stage he is struggling to beat almost everyone on tour at ATP level, no disrespect to Paire.
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January 30, 2024, 09:03:19 AM

With the Australian Open coming to a close with the singles Champs in Italy's Jannik Sinner[Men] and Belarus's Arnya Sabalenka[Women].  In doubles, Rohan Bopanna(India) / Matthew Ebden(Australia) [Mens]. Women doubles Hsieh Su-Wei (Taiwan) / Elise Mertens (Belgium). While in mixed doubles  Hsieh Su-wei(Taiwan) / Jan Zieliński(Poland).
It went under the radar as doubles and mixed doubles aren't half as popular as Singles but Hsieh Su-wei bags 2 grandslam titles in doubles which is incredible for a 38 year old. I don't see her playing singles much, anymore. Maybe that has been the key to conserving her body from wear and tear while focusing solely in doubles. Which has paid off tremendously. Speaking of veterans, my countryman Rohan Bopanna wins his first Grandslam title while also becoming the oldest one to do so. I think he's the oldest world no. 1 doubles player as well at the age of 43!!!

Who are your favs for the other grandslams this year? I think if Nadal doesn't play the French, Carlos Alcaraz might be the fav to win there, other than Novak. The other 2 tournaments, I'd put Sinner and Novak to be the favs to win.
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January 30, 2024, 07:54:03 AM
Apparently you are right and Sinner is likely to be one of the top players in big tennis soon. Unfortunately for Medvedev, Sinner's arsenal of moves was higher and technically he is a more interesting tennis player than Medvedev, who takes persistence and character. It was obvious that Medvedev fought to the end, even though he was exhausted from the long matches.

If Sinner had not dropped two sets at once, I think he would have won earlier, but he played horribly in those first sets and gave Medvedev a chance, which he unfortunately did not have time to take.
We have currently few impressive players in new generation but no player having patience and quality like Sinner which is his best weapon while he was facing Medvedev in this final I watch all game, and I am really surprised with his calmness and play even after losing first two sets he has done good job and fight back with Medvedev was losing his patience which was also helpful for the Sinner this all showing how impressive he is, and he is surely going to have good future in front of him for the long time now who is going to give him company in this long race we are not sure.

Medvedev as many mentioned a good player, but mostly he becomes nerves which is his weakness and just because of this now he already lost three finals and won only one Grand Slam in last four years he needs to work on this for having better results in the future.
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January 30, 2024, 05:27:39 AM

Although he lost to the man who arguably deserved the trophy the most, Sinner, looking at the overall performance of the tournament, the way he lost is sad. Exactly the same as the aus open nadal final 2 years ago. Those who remember it will remember that after that loss, he could not recover for 1 year, he was eliminated against much lower level opponents than himself. It wouldn't be so devastating if he lost 3-0 and was crushed, but what would it hurt to bring it to 2-0 and not win in the same way as 2 years ago. I don't know if he will recover from here again, but the possibility of such a player closing his career with a single slam is sad.

I do agree and I would usually not say this because I don't like Medvedev that much, but here it can be said that both deserved to win the final. Medvedev played amazing in the first two sets and his precision was mind blowing. But then again when you consider the whole match and every single set by itself, I still think that Sinner was the deserved winner because he showed an amazing determination to make this miracle happen once he was two sets down. That alone deserves a lot of respect and he gave Medvedev such a hard fight that you could see in Medvedev's eyes how desperate he was to find the right shot against Sinner, but nothing could overcome Sinner anymore. It was an impressive game by both players and finally a great game despite the fact that none of the GOATs was there.
Apparently you are right and Sinner is likely to be one of the top players in big tennis soon. Unfortunately for Medvedev, Sinner's arsenal of moves was higher and technically he is a more interesting tennis player than Medvedev, who takes persistence and character. It was obvious that Medvedev fought to the end, even though he was exhausted from the long matches.

If Sinner had not dropped two sets at once, I think he would have won earlier, but he played horribly in those first sets and gave Medvedev a chance, which he unfortunately did not have time to take.
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January 30, 2024, 03:36:23 AM
Honestly, I actually think he was trying to have a relaxing moment. After he saw that he had already got two sets and the opponent had zero, he probably took things a little easier and that is probably his downfall.

But I also agree that him playing such long matches in a very short time span might have also had a big effect on his performance.

But we also cannot take anything away from Sinner. He played incredibly well and it also takes a lot of willpower as well to make a comeback from a situation like that.
Medvedev is surely one of the best players in current era, but sadly this was his third lost in last four years while he was trying to win Australian Open with losing after winning two sets is surely more heartbreaker but still he has done good job, but we also need to give credit to Sinner who keep calm in all match and not create anything panic which is surely amazing and with this all he also deserved this win because usually after losing two sets players moral gone down with usually have nothing in control which helps them for staying at this level where we have Sinner in this final.

After beating Djokovic his moral was already at the top but after losing two sets coming back with this way is surely giving how strong is this player and have impressive future ahead of him with this quality and mind-set.
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January 30, 2024, 03:02:33 AM
2 sets down though is a lot to claw back from, the only one I can remember doing
it in a grand slam is Djokovic...
Well, Medvedev came back from 0:2 in a semi-final against Zverev. Or you meant GS finals?

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Yup and those young guns are Sinner, Alcaraz, Rune and Medvedev, and it will be
interesting to see what Zverev can do as the season progresses.
Young? Medvedev is 28, Zverev turning 27 this year. Sinner is 22, I guess we can call him young...

Alcaraz, Shelton, Prizmic are next-gen players we should focus on. WTA tour: Andreeva, Fruhvirtova, Korneeva...

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