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Quote from: Trofo on January 28, 2024, 09:53:58 AM

Quote from: aoluain on January 28, 2024, 09:32:49 AM

I wonder what the odds were on him when he went 2 sets down to Medvedev?

@4.6 took them without hesitation. tail end of second set already showed that Sinner finally started playing and he was the player in the best form during whole AO. I mean before today he only lost 2 games on his serve and he played 4 sets against Djoković.

Was writing about it, but in different thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63571325

Oh wow Trofo, that was a great move.

Yea Sinner had only dropped 2 sets before the final and I guess if you were watching
and able to see his game improving it would be a great move.

2 sets down though is a lot to claw back from, the only one I can remember doing
it in a grand slam is Djokovic...

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 28, 2024, 12:53:11 PM

Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.

I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.

Jannik Sinner, who won his first grand slam title in this tournament, to tell you the truth, upset the tennis romantics, including me, a little bit. First he completely paralysed djokovic in the semifinals, djokovic was eliminated without even a break of serve point. His opponent in the final, Medvedev, is not from the generation of the nadal-federer-djokovic big three, but he is one of the stars of the next generation, which we can make a trio as medvedev-zverev-berrettini, and he has been playing in such finals for years. When Sinner didn't show any presence at all in the first two sets of the final match, I was in a good mood, there are still some points for him to improve, but what did this guy do; he took the next three sets and won the match. Jokes aside, it was a great success for him and I enjoy this fresh breath in tennis.

Well I guess we have to move forward already, I mean, this is the new generation of tennis players, Djokovic is one man standing for the great generations they have. But now it's very different era and so the young guns are finally taking over.

Just hard breaking lost by Medvedev, but this is how someone become a champion. They elevated their games, just like the greats, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic. And as what @aoluain said, we've seen Djokovic giving up 2 sets early and then make a great comeback. So this one is for the books and congrats to those who ride on him after being down with that great odds.

Yup and those young guns are Sinner, Alcaraz, Rune and Medvedev, and it will be
interesting to see what Zverev can do as the season progresses.

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Quote from: püsür on January 28, 2024, 02:55:43 PM

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 28, 2024, 12:53:11 PM

Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.

I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.

Jannik Sinner, who won his first grand slam title in this tournament, to tell you the truth, upset the tennis romantics, including me, a little bit. First he completely paralysed djokovic in the semifinals, djokovic was eliminated without even a break of serve point. His opponent in the final, Medvedev, is not from the generation of the nadal-federer-djokovic big three, but he is one of the stars of the next generation, which we can make a trio as medvedev-zverev-berrettini, and he has been playing in such finals for years. When Sinner didn't show any presence at all in the first two sets of the final match, I was in a good mood, there are still some points for him to improve, but what did this guy do; he took the next three sets and won the match. Jokes aside, it was a great success for him and I enjoy this fresh breath in tennis.

Well I guess we have to move forward already, I mean, this is the new generation of tennis players, Djokovic is one man standing for the great generations they have. But now it's very different era and so the young guns are finally taking over.

Just hard breaking lost by Medvedev, but this is how someone become a champion. They elevated their games, just like the greats, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic. And as what @aoluain said, we've seen Djokovic giving up 2 sets early and then make a great comeback. So this one is for the books and congrats to those who ride on him after being down with that great odds.

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Quote from: Polkeins on January 29, 2024, 03:15:08 AM

Quote from: ajanwalker on January 29, 2024, 01:28:31 AM

Medvedev himself experienced perhaps more emotions than he did to Zverev 3 days ago. It is really difficult to lose a match when you are leading 2-0 in sets. Especially if it is the championship final, it is even more difficult. Sinner showed a great example of struggle. It is not easy to turn the match from 2-0 against an opponent like Medvedev, but Sinner managed to do it.
Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.

Maybe Medvedev does have psychological problems, because this is not his first lost final.
It seems that he was only able to beat Novak Djokovic once in 2021, and all other finals he lost.

Sinner played terribly in the first two sets and made almost every possible mistake and it was more his failure than Medvedev's, but then Sinner was able to pull himself together and win the match.

Of course for Medvedev this is the second five-set match in 24 hours and he probably couldn't take such a load.
So fatigue and psychology probably predetermined Medvedev's defeat in this final.

Yeah, Medvedev's fuel tank was almost empty after the 5-set match against Zverev. And yet, he had very good opportunities twice - he lost his serve game in the 3rd set while trailing 4:5, which eventually lead to losing the set and exactly the same carbon copy scenario in the 4th set - again 4:5 and again serve lost. I'm pretty sure if Medvedev would manage to take it into the tie breaker he would have an opportunity to win the match. In the 5th set Daniil was too tired, he even tried going to the net which he is not particularly comfortable with. Of course he lost points, but he was so desperate and tired to try anything else.

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Quote from: püsür on January 29, 2024, 08:49:44 AM

Quote from: temple on January 28, 2024, 04:52:03 PM

Although he lost to the man who arguably deserved the trophy the most, Sinner, looking at the overall performance of the tournament, the way he lost is sad. Exactly the same as the aus open nadal final 2 years ago. Those who remember it will remember that after that loss, he could not recover for 1 year, he was eliminated against much lower level opponents than himself. It wouldn't be so devastating if he lost 3-0 and was crushed, but what would it hurt to bring it to 2-0 and not win in the same way as 2 years ago. I don't know if he will recover from here again, but the possibility of such a player closing his career with a single slam is sad.

I do agree and I would usually not say this because I don't like Medvedev that much, but here it can be said that both deserved to win the final. Medvedev played amazing in the first two sets and his precision was mind blowing. But then again when you consider the whole match and every single set by itself, I still think that Sinner was the deserved winner because he showed an amazing determination to make this miracle happen once he was two sets down. That alone deserves a lot of respect and he gave Medvedev such a hard fight that you could see in Medvedev's eyes how desperate he was to find the right shot against Sinner, but nothing could overcome Sinner anymore. It was an impressive game by both players and finally a great game despite the fact that none of the GOATs was there.

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Quote from: Polkeins on January 29, 2024, 03:15:08 AM

Quote from: ajanwalker on January 29, 2024, 01:28:31 AM

Medvedev himself experienced perhaps more emotions than he did to Zverev 3 days ago. It is really difficult to lose a match when you are leading 2-0 in sets. Especially if it is the championship final, it is even more difficult. Sinner showed a great example of struggle. It is not easy to turn the match from 2-0 against an opponent like Medvedev, but Sinner managed to do it.
Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.

Maybe Medvedev does have psychological problems, because this is not his first lost final.
It seems that he was only able to beat Novak Djokovic once in 2021, and all other finals he lost.

Sinner played terribly in the first two sets and made almost every possible mistake and it was more his failure than Medvedev's, but then Sinner was able to pull himself together and win the match.

Of course for Medvedev this is the second five-set match in 24 hours and he probably couldn't take such a load.
So fatigue and psychology probably predetermined Medvedev's defeat in this final.

Honestly, I actually think he was trying to have a relaxing moment. After he saw that he had already got two sets and the opponent had zero, he probably took things a little easier and that is probably his downfall.

But I also agree that him playing such long matches in a very short time span might have also had a big effect on his performance.

But we also cannot take anything away from Sinner. He played incredibly well and it also takes a lot of willpower as well to make a comeback from a situation like that.

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Quote from: temple on January 28, 2024, 04:52:03 PM

Quote from: püsür on January 28, 2024, 02:55:43 PM

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 28, 2024, 12:53:11 PM

Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.

I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.

Jannik Sinner, who won his first grand slam title in this tournament, to tell you the truth, upset the tennis romantics, including me, a little bit. First he completely paralysed djokovic in the semifinals, djokovic was eliminated without even a break of serve point. His opponent in the final, Medvedev, is not from the generation of the nadal-federer-djokovic big three, but he is one of the stars of the next generation, which we can make a trio as medvedev-zverev-berrettini, and he has been playing in such finals for years. When Sinner didn't show any presence at all in the first two sets of the final match, I was in a good mood, there are still some points for him to improve, but what did this guy do; he took the next three sets and won the match. Jokes aside, it was a great success for him and I enjoy this fresh breath in tennis.

Medvedev served like a machine in the first two sets and Sinner made too many unforced errors when he had the chance for a proper return.

But Medvedev did include some variations into his game that he usually does not do. I was quite surprised by his tactics in that game, but I was also quite surprised by Sinner's inability to adjust to these circumstances. Sinner is a player who can adapt to new game situations, but whatever he tried during the first two sets (like stopballs), it didn't work out for him.

But then out of a sudden Medvedev lost strength. I have barely seen him being that exhausted and that was the turning point in the game.

Although he lost to the man who arguably deserved the trophy the most, Sinner, looking at the overall performance of the tournament, the way he lost is sad. Exactly the same as the aus open nadal final 2 years ago. Those who remember it will remember that after that loss, he could not recover for 1 year, he was eliminated against much lower level opponents than himself. It wouldn't be so devastating if he lost 3-0 and was crushed, but what would it hurt to bring it to 2-0 and not win in the same way as 2 years ago. I don't know if he will recover from here again, but the possibility of such a player closing his career with a single slam is sad.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on January 29, 2024, 01:28:31 AM

Medvedev himself experienced perhaps more emotions than he did to Zverev 3 days ago. It is really difficult to lose a match when you are leading 2-0 in sets. Especially if it is the championship final, it is even more difficult. Sinner showed a great example of struggle. It is not easy to turn the match from 2-0 against an opponent like Medvedev, but Sinner managed to do it.
Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.

Maybe Medvedev does have psychological problems, because this is not his first lost final.
It seems that he was only able to beat Novak Djokovic once in 2021, and all other finals he lost.

Sinner played terribly in the first two sets and made almost every possible mistake and it was more his failure than Medvedev's, but then Sinner was able to pull himself together and win the match.

Of course for Medvedev this is the second five-set match in 24 hours and he probably couldn't take such a load.
So fatigue and psychology probably predetermined Medvedev's defeat in this final.

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Medvedev himself experienced perhaps more emotions than he did to Zverev 3 days ago. It is really difficult to lose a match when you are leading 2-0 in sets. Especially if it is the championship final, it is even more difficult. Sinner showed a great example of struggle. It is not easy to turn the match from 2-0 against an opponent like Medvedev, but Sinner managed to do it.
Young tennis players who will make their mark on the future are coming. Alcaraz and Sinner are candidates to be the Nadal and Djokovic of the future. I will watch them with excitement.

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Quote from: püsür on January 28, 2024, 02:55:43 PM

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 28, 2024, 12:53:11 PM

Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.

I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.

Jannik Sinner, who won his first grand slam title in this tournament, to tell you the truth, upset the tennis romantics, including me, a little bit. First he completely paralysed djokovic in the semifinals, djokovic was eliminated without even a break of serve point. His opponent in the final, Medvedev, is not from the generation of the nadal-federer-djokovic big three, but he is one of the stars of the next generation, which we can make a trio as medvedev-zverev-berrettini, and he has been playing in such finals for years. When Sinner didn't show any presence at all in the first two sets of the final match, I was in a good mood, there are still some points for him to improve, but what did this guy do; he took the next three sets and won the match. Jokes aside, it was a great success for him and I enjoy this fresh breath in tennis.

Medvedev served like a machine in the first two sets and Sinner made too many unforced errors when he had the chance for a proper return.

But Medvedev did include some variations into his game that he usually does not do. I was quite surprised by his tactics in that game, but I was also quite surprised by Sinner's inability to adjust to these circumstances. Sinner is a player who can adapt to new game situations, but whatever he tried during the first two sets (like stopballs), it didn't work out for him.

But then out of a sudden Medvedev lost strength. I have barely seen him being that exhausted and that was the turning point in the game.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 28, 2024, 12:53:11 PM

Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.

I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.

Jannik Sinner, who won his first grand slam title in this tournament, to tell you the truth, upset the tennis romantics, including me, a little bit. First he completely paralysed djokovic in the semifinals, djokovic was eliminated without even a break of serve point. His opponent in the final, Medvedev, is not from the generation of the nadal-federer-djokovic big three, but he is one of the stars of the next generation, which we can make a trio as medvedev-zverev-berrettini, and he has been playing in such finals for years. When Sinner didn't show any presence at all in the first two sets of the final match, I was in a good mood, there are still some points for him to improve, but what did this guy do; he took the next three sets and won the match. Jokes aside, it was a great success for him and I enjoy this fresh breath in tennis.

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Yeah, I didn't watch the first 3 sets (was playing football), but we sat for a drink after it and it was kinda obvious that Sinner will turn things around.
I don't know how Medvedev got 10 breeak points in the first 2 sets, I recall only 1 in the last 2 sets and that was calmly taken care off by Sinner.

I'm glad he won it, I've been telling everybody how good he actually is for the last 2-3 years. He's finally starting to show it - and he's still got room to improve. I hope he pushes Alcaraz for the no. 1 spot.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 28, 2024, 09:53:58 AM

Quote from: aoluain on January 28, 2024, 09:32:49 AM

I wonder what the odds were on him when he went 2 sets down to Medvedev?

@4.6 took them without hesitation. tail end of second set already showed that Sinner finally started playing and he was the player in the best form during whole AO. I mean before today he only lost 2 games on his serve and he played 4 sets against Djoković.

Was writing about it, but in different thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63571325

Good hit man, well done.
I was very surprised it even came to a 0:2. My prediction was an easy 3:0 or 3:1 win for Sinner, guess Medvedev had something to say about that, haha.
Anyway, once Sinner got the 3rd set the odds makers gave almost even odds . it was a great match if you like dramatics and comeback for sure, worth a finals game.

I want to emphasize again about the great performance of Su Wei Hsieh in these Australian open. Winning both the mixed and the woman's doubles is a great achievement, especially when being 38 years old. She must be one of the most humple people on the tour and I had the pleasure of meeting her 2 years ago in Taipei. Just a great person and an even better player!

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Quote from: aoluain on January 28, 2024, 09:32:49 AM

I wonder what the odds were on him when he went 2 sets down to Medvedev?

@4.6 took them without hesitation. tail end of second set already showed that Sinner finally started playing and he was the player in the best form during whole AO. I mean before today he only lost 2 games on his serve and he played 4 sets against Djoković.

Was writing about it, but in different thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63571325

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Quote from: BALIK on January 28, 2024, 08:36:16 AM

Quote from: serveria.com on January 28, 2024, 03:04:04 AM

Gentlemen, big day today! Sinner is taking on Medvedev in 2024 AO final. The Italian was pretty convincing throughout the tournament, eliminating Novak Djokovic himself on the way to the final. However, Medvedev shouldn't be underestimated - he also played very well in Melbourne this year, defeating top players like Zverev. The Russian has more GS experience, particularly playing in the later stages, like finals. Not sure if this is going to help him and will be enough to come out victorious in today's final battle. I placed a tiny bet on Jannik because I'm not quite sure of the outcome, despite bookies considering him an overwhelming favourite.

This was probably one of the best comebacks that I have ever seen in my life. And this was also probably one of the best comebacks ever made by Sinner. Medvedev was about to win the match, only if he got one more set. He won the first 2 sets and was looking very confident. But Sinner made a really good comeback and actually won the match in the end. The final score was

Sinner 3 3 6 6 6
Medvedev 6 6 4 4 3

Congratulations to Sinner for being able to win the Australian Open final.

Well its definitely the best comeback by Jannik thats for sure, we have seen Djokovic
give his opponent a 2 set leat in a grand slam before so its always special to see that.

Jannik has worked hard on his mental fortitude and self belief and today is the ultimate
reward for that. He deserves that win for sure.

Quote from: bitbollo on January 28, 2024, 03:30:08 AM

actually the odds for final win of Sinner are @1.34/1.40 really low considering this is a SLAM Finals against a not-underdog. At least on paper, bookmakers are taking an high risk on Medvedev... The italian guy has been strong during the whole tournament, I hope he has not "the stress" feeling like other important finals.
Anyway, be ready for a great show !

I wonder what the odds were on him when he went 2 sets down to Medvedev?

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Quote from: serveria.com on January 28, 2024, 03:04:04 AM

Gentlemen, big day today! Sinner is taking on Medvedev in 2024 AO final. The Italian was pretty convincing throughout the tournament, eliminating Novak Djokovic himself on the way to the final. However, Medvedev shouldn't be underestimated - he also played very well in Melbourne this year, defeating top players like Zverev. The Russian has more GS experience, particularly playing in the later stages, like finals. Not sure if this is going to help him and will be enough to come out victorious in today's final battle. I placed a tiny bet on Jannik because I'm not quite sure of the outcome, despite bookies considering him an overwhelming favourite.

This was probably one of the best comebacks that I have ever seen in my life. And this was also probably one of the best comebacks ever made by Sinner. Medvedev was about to win the match, only if he got one more set. He won the first 2 sets and was looking very confident. But Sinner made a really good comeback and actually won the match in the end. The final score was

Sinner 3 3 6 6 6
Medvedev 6 6 4 4 3

Congratulations to Sinner for being able to win the Australian Open final.

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Jannik Sinner managed to get his first Grand Slam title even though his performance this time was not very smooth, especially in the first and second sets, but everything changed in the third to fifth sets.
Daniil Medvedev seemed to have lost his energy after entering the third set because his power began to decline quite significantly, his final performance was quite bad because five times in the final he only managed to lift the trophy once and in this final same when he lost to Rafael Nadal.
Seeing Jannik Sinner's appearance which is developing very rapidly, it seems that attention is starting to shift to him after Carlos Alcaraz experienced quite a decline after winning Wimbledon and what might be highly anticipated is the grand slam final between Jannik Sinner vs Carlos Alcaraz but Novak Djokovic cannot just be forgotten because of the defeat in the semifinals The Australian Open is not the end of his career and usually he will come back stronger after such a painful defeat

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actually the odds for final win of Sinner are @1.34/1.40 really low considering this is a SLAM Finals against a not-underdog. At least on paper, bookmakers are taking an high risk on Medvedev... The italian guy has been strong during the whole tournament, I hope he has not "the stress" feeling like other important finals.
Anyway, be ready for a great show !

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Gentlemen, big day today! Sinner is taking on Medvedev in 2024 AO final. The Italian was pretty convincing throughout the tournament, eliminating Novak Djokovic himself on the way to the final. However, Medvedev shouldn't be underestimated - he also played very well in Melbourne this year, defeating top players like Zverev. The Russian has more GS experience, particularly playing in the later stages, like finals. Not sure if this is going to help him and will be enough to come out victorious in today's final battle. I placed a tiny bet on Jannik because I'm not quite sure of the outcome, despite bookies considering him an overwhelming favourite.

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Quote from: bct_ail on January 26, 2024, 09:24:43 AM

Great comeback from Medvedev. Zverev was very close to reaching the final. But Medvedev still managed a turnaround. In any case, it was a great semi-final. Both were great. And Zverev can be proud of himself. He has made great progress in the last few weeks and he can build on that.

So now we have a final that nobody would have expected. I hope now that Sinner will win the final.

I think almost everybody expected that Djokovic would be in the final and his most likely opponent was Alcaraz. We will have a new grandslam champion but no idea who to bet on. I didn’t really follow any matches and it will be probably be a pretty close match.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 27, 2024, 08:09:09 AM

Quote from: serveria.com on January 26, 2024, 06:29:11 PM

Ladies final tomorrow. Sabalenka is going to face Zheng. Last year's AO champ is a favourite of course, but the young Chinese can shock the tennis world by beating WTA #2. Belarussian is showing perhaps the best women's tennis since Serena. She is more experienced and has more titles, including GS.

What worries me the most is the slight performance drop Sabalenka showed in a match against Gauff. She lost momentum and was kind of hesitant , confused and lost her focus a bit. If something similar will happen tomorrow vs Zheng, she could potentially lose the match.

A kind of predictable result looking back, Sabalenka is too strong ATM. The final score
looks like an easy match for her 3-6, 2-6 in 76 minutes. I dont think there is anyone who
can trouble her this year.

I believe Zheng is going into the top 10 and Sabalenka is closing in on the #1 position
to put pressure on Swiatek.

It was definitely an easy match for her. She did not have to work that hard to win this match. And yes I will also say that the result was kind of predictable. Well, I expected the match to be a little more competitive. Because this was a final, I did not expect the match to be so easy for her. But at the same time, I understand why this kind of result has happened. Congratulations to Sabalenka.

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