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I was thinking to do some Yolo bets today but even on accas the odds don't interest me for names I don't recognize. If I get time, again live betting on players trailing by a set.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 01, 2021, 05:56:54 AM

Perhaps we will hear this in the future though, at least Osaka come up clean with her reasoning and hope that she can recover and be back in the tour in the next slams.

She already has, and her own professional peers are generally supportive, though I think Martina actually said it would work against her, but oh well. I've seen this year and last year young professionals in football actually retiring from the sports because of all this media pressure (and the hate that comes along on them and their families) so it feels sad but such is reality. And people don't want to talk about, making it worse for those dealing with it.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 01, 2021, 07:06:33 PM

Delbonis vs Andujar might be a good game to watch later.

Could be, two clay specialists going at each other. I am expecting a tough battle, probably even a 5 set match. Therefore, my bet for this one is over 36.5 games which should pass if get at least 4 sets.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on June 01, 2021, 03:16:03 AM

It's sad that Naomi Osaka has withdrawn from the tournament. I understand that attending press conferences is a part of the job, but the authorities haven't handled this at all well. Their initial response was aggressive and heavy-handed, where they all banded together to issue a statement saying that for players who don't attend, fines would escalate and they might even be kicked out of tournaments.

... and their response to Osaka pulling out was so ridiculous, the guy read from a prepared statement, and then refused to take any questions from the press! That really is a perfect way to utterly undermine your own argument.

@Strongkored its a terrible and dangerous thing to deal with, I have family and friends who
suffer from depression. The idea of having to deal with questions in the public arena about
your performance after losing a match can be very difficult for people suffering from depression.

I cant believe that officials cannot be more understanding and compromising, maybe allowing
a manager to respond instead.

I agree, even Sloans said that we should applauded Naomi for stepping up for revealing her bouts of depression for years now. I do hope that this will inspire other tennis players to go on public and admit about their mental battles. This high level tennis players, just like everyone here suffers at one point in their life and be depressed. This is a subject that nobody wants to talk about. And hope that Naomi Osaka can beat it and become a stronger person overall, not just as a tennis player.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on June 01, 2021, 12:57:14 PM

Today there is again a surprise, the next TOP 10 player who was eliminated after Thiem in the first round, Rubljow fought his way back after the first two lost sets but then he lost the last 5th set. Otherwise the other top players have clearly win today. Only Djokovic is playing later today.

There's really a lot of surprises in the first round, what more if we move to round of 32 going into the quarter finals. Was surprised to see Rublev out now, it's a 5 setter game, maybe some of them are not acclimated to this kind of set up no more. That's why there body and mentally are giving out specially playing catch up. While the big 3 has been here in years, and know how to phase themselves.

Delbonis vs Andujar might be a good game to watch later.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on June 01, 2021, 12:57:14 PM

Today there is again a surprise, the next TOP 10 player who was eliminated after Thiem in the first round, Rubljow fought his way back after the first two lost sets but then he lost the last 5th set. Otherwise the other top players have clearly win today. Only Djokovic is playing later today.

Already 2 big eliminations in the tournament that wasnt expected.The big 3 dominated the first round as expected all 3-0 in sets wins.
Not many troubles for them will see if they will meet with each other in the quarter finals

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Today there is again a surprise, the next TOP 10 player who was eliminated after Thiem in the first round, Rubljow fought his way back after the first two lost sets but then he lost the last 5th set. Otherwise the other top players have clearly win today. Only Djokovic is playing later today.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on June 01, 2021, 03:16:03 AM

It's sad that Naomi Osaka has withdrawn from the tournament. I understand that attending press conferences is a part of the job, but the authorities haven't handled this at all well. Their initial response was aggressive and heavy-handed, where they all banded together to issue a statement saying that for players who don't attend, fines would escalate and they might even be kicked out of tournaments.

... and their response to Osaka pulling out was so ridiculous, the guy read from a prepared statement, and then refused to take any questions from the press! That really is a perfect way to utterly undermine your own argument.

@Strongkored its a terrible and dangerous thing to deal with, I have family and friends who
suffer from depression. The idea of having to deal with questions in the public arena about
your performance after losing a match can be very difficult for people suffering from depression.

I cant believe that officials cannot be more understanding and compromising, maybe allowing
a manager to respond instead.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 31, 2021, 03:04:24 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on May 31, 2021, 02:13:05 PM

Jannik Sinner did have a hard time against and needed 5 sets to dispose P. H. Herbert.

Disappointed on Sonego though, my parlay got destroyed with him not winning and worst losing in 3 sets again Harris.

Federer easy 3 sets win and Medvedev as well. Nadal is playing tomorrow, I reckon it will also be a 3 set win.

Same here, did not have a clear high stake bet but made a couple of multi bets and lost most of them. I thought Sinner will destroy Herbert, expected big problems for Medvedev, expected Korda and Sonego wins... Only Musseti, Monteiro and Cirstea matches went how I envisioned them.

This is how it looks like:

Sonego was pretty solid in the last 3 clay court tournaments he enter, so I don't know what happen to him in this match. And as I have said, what disappoints me is that he lost in 3 freaking set.

Anyhow, let's see how it goes, will continue to do mid level odds and parlays and have fun watching the matches.

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Quote from: buwaytress on June 01, 2021, 04:25:50 AM

Just catching up with the Osaka news too. Pretty disheartening to read about, though to be honest, I always thought media were a lot nicer to tennis people than other sports.

Probably it's just that this kind of news is getting out, I remember other sport personalities having the same mental problem, Kevin Love for basketball and then Ryan Garcia in boxing, which he has to cancel his upcoming fight because of the issues.

Perhaps we will hear this in the future though, at least Osaka come up clean with her reasoning and hope that she can recover and be back in the tour in the next slams.

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Trofo, Medvedev straight set victory in the end haha so ouch for pairing that with the Thiem upset! No problems though, I actually still have a Djoko outright so maybe I won't end up being so disappointed.

Just catching up with the Osaka news too. Pretty disheartening to read about, though to be honest, I always thought media were a lot nicer to tennis people than other sports.

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It's sad that Naomi Osaka has withdrawn from the tournament. I understand that attending press conferences is a part of the job, but the authorities haven't handled this at all well. Their initial response was aggressive and heavy-handed, where they all banded together to issue a statement saying that for players who don't attend, fines would escalate and they might even be kicked out of tournaments.

... and their response to Osaka pulling out was so ridiculous, the guy read from a prepared statement, and then refused to take any questions from the press! That really is a perfect way to utterly undermine your own argument.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 01, 2021, 12:40:24 AM

Quote from: Koal-84 on May 31, 2021, 09:44:58 AM

Federer have a good start and begin with a break, i also don't think Federer can beat Djokovic.

For the next round Federer will meet Cilic, Cilic only won once when he became the US Open champion, but because this is Clay Federer does not seem to be able to beat Cilic easily, maybe just the opposite.

In my opinion, the advantage should lie with Federer, in the first game in a long time Federer convinced even if the opponent wasn't so strong. I think Federer and Cilic have never played against and there are no empirical values?

Today, Nadal and Djokovic's plays to move into the second round.

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Fair play to Musetti, beating Goffin in straight sets. I liked him the first time I saw him play, he is a top 5 player in the making - potentially even higher than that.

Italy has 2 amazing talents in him and Sinner, if they remain healthy and focused they can dominate the next decade of tennis. Italy won only 1 Davis Cup, this might be their time. They have Berrettini as well.

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Regarding Čilić - I would not say his chances are low. Federer is 39 years old, he's still technically great but he might struggle physically. H2H is 9-1 to Federer though.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 31, 2021, 09:44:58 AM

Federer have a good start and begin with a break, i also don't think Federer can beat Djokovic.

For the next round Federer will meet Cilic, Cilic only won once when he became the US Open champion, but because this is Clay Federer does not seem to be able to beat Cilic easily, maybe just the opposite.

Quote from: aoluain on May 31, 2021, 01:04:05 PM

I just heard that Osaka has pulled out of the tournament, what to you all think of her
decisions to not participate in post match interviews?

Personally I think every player should have the choice of whether to do it or not.

She was struggling to get out from depression and she was brave enough to reveal the health mental she was dealing with, so this decision was the right decision rather than having to listen to journalists' questions which could actually damage her mentally.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/31/sports/tennis/naomi-osaka-quits-french-open-depression.html

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 31, 2021, 02:13:05 PM

Jannik Sinner did have a hard time against and needed 5 sets to dispose P. H. Herbert.

Disappointed on Sonego though, my parlay got destroyed with him not winning and worst losing in 3 sets again Harris.

Federer easy 3 sets win and Medvedev as well. Nadal is playing tomorrow, I reckon it will also be a 3 set win.

Jannik Sinner had a lot of problems in this match Herbert was pretty much pumped because he was playing at home and in one of the biggest tournaments.
For me its not suprising that Sonego lost Harris has moments when he plays good.Federer was really easy was playing with Istomin today.Nadal will probobly destroy his opponent

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 31, 2021, 02:13:05 PM

Jannik Sinner did have a hard time against and needed 5 sets to dispose P. H. Herbert.

Disappointed on Sonego though, my parlay got destroyed with him not winning and worst losing in 3 sets again Harris.

Federer easy 3 sets win and Medvedev as well. Nadal is playing tomorrow, I reckon it will also be a 3 set win.

Same here, did not have a clear high stake bet but made a couple of multi bets and lost most of them. I thought Sinner will destroy Herbert, expected big problems for Medvedev, expected Korda and Sonego wins... Only Musseti, Monteiro and Cirstea matches went how I envisioned them.

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Jannik Sinner did have a hard time against and needed 5 sets to dispose P. H. Herbert.

Disappointed on Sonego though, my parlay got destroyed with him not winning and worst losing in 3 sets again Harris.

Federer easy 3 sets win and Medvedev as well. Nadal is playing tomorrow, I reckon it will also be a 3 set win.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 31, 2021, 05:38:45 AM

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I'm waiting for Federer's game today, but he's definitely not a favorite for the title. Tomorrow Nadal and Djokovic will play the first round, assume that the two will win easily and probably one of the two will win the tournament, even if there will probably be no final between the two, they will meet in the semifinals at the latest?

yeah, winner will be probably resolved in the semi-final between the two
Federer is out, he cannot beat Djokovic in quarter-final, if somehow manage to get there, which I clearly doubt

Nadal should be favorite, but he is also far from superb form as well, but should be able to reach semi-final with Djokovic (he has Sinner and Rublev on his way to Djokovic)

whoever comes into final from the lower draw part will be beaten in the final, maybe they will take set or two, but hardly can win over (my pick is on Tsitsipas to reach it)

Well Tsitsipas would be the strongest on that side of the draw so it would be expected
for him to reach the final. To win it presumably against Nadal, I would give him a chance.
There is a lot of tennis to be played.

I just heard that Osaka has pulled out of the tournament, what to you all think of her
decisions to not participate in post match interviews?

Personally I think every player should have the choice of whether to do it or not.

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Quote from: vennali on May 30, 2021, 06:43:38 PM

Some very tough matches for seeds as Zverev and Nishikori struggled to win their matches but managed to step over the line. Thiem, who is considered a future French open champion(once Nadal retires)..turns out, he's not even getting past round 1. Such a disappointment and congrats to Andujar for showing the door to 4th seed in the tournament, which was the biggest upset of the day. Andujar is clay specialist but so is Thiem.

In contrast to Thiem, Zverev has improved after the first two sets, with the many inherent mistakes Thiem lost his game and after he lost the 4th set I no longer believed that he could still turn the last set, Thiem is in this year not in his best form and hope he comes out of the depth of form.

I'm really surprised that Thiem dropped out of the tournament so early.
The last few years Thiem has been the closest to stopping Nadal’s magnificent winning streak in this tournament and I thought this could finally be his year.
I don't think Djokovic can beat Nadal in Paris and we will see Nadal's new title here again and Djokovic will probably fight back at Wimbledon.
The race for the greatest tennis player of all time continues Grin

It surprised me too, but Thiem hasn't found his form this year and hasn't played well in the last few games either. With a normal course without injuries, the victory should go back over Nadal in Paris.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 31, 2021, 05:38:45 AM

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I'm waiting for Federer's game today, but he's definitely not a favorite for the title. Tomorrow Nadal and Djokovic will play the first round, assume that the two will win easily and probably one of the two will win the tournament, even if there will probably be no final between the two, they will meet in the semifinals at the latest?

yeah, winner will be probably resolved in the semi-final between the two
Federer is out, he cannot beat Djokovic in quarter-final, if somehow manage to get there, which I clearly doubt

Nadal should be favorite, but he is also far from superb form as well, but should be able to reach semi-final with Djokovic (he has Sinner and Rublev on his way to Djokovic)

whoever comes into final from the lower draw part will be beaten in the final, maybe they will take set or two, but hardly can win over (my pick is on Tsitsipas to reach it)

Federer have a good start and begin with a break, i also don't think Federer can beat Djokovic.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 31, 2021, 05:38:45 AM

~snip
I'm waiting for Federer's game today, but he's definitely not a favorite for the title. Tomorrow Nadal and Djokovic will play the first round, assume that the two will win easily and probably one of the two will win the tournament, even if there will probably be no final between the two, they will meet in the semifinals at the latest?

yeah, winner will be probably resolved in the semi-final between the two
Federer is out, he cannot beat Djokovic in quarter-final, if somehow manage to get there, which I clearly doubt

Nadal should be favorite, but he is also far from superb form as well, but should be able to reach semi-final with Djokovic (he has Sinner and Rublev on his way to Djokovic)

whoever comes into final from the lower draw part will be beaten in the final, maybe they will take set or two, but hardly can win over (my pick is on Tsitsipas to reach it)

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