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March 07, 2021, 02:58:51 AM
Petra Kvitova beat Garbine Muguruza 6-2 6-1 in the Qatar Open final.
A good result for the Czech Kvitova, the world number 10.
Personally, I like Kvitova and I'm glad for her victory.
Muguruza has already lost two finals in this tournament and will have to wait for her first title there.
Their statements after the match:
Kvitova: "It's been a great run.
"I'm sorry for the second time. I hope we can meet somewhere else."

Muguruza: "For a second time she took the title away from me, but I can't wait to come back next year."

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/56308747
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March 06, 2021, 10:18:40 PM
Rotterdam semi-finals: Tsitsipas vs Rublev

What are your thoughts on this one?

Of course I have Tsitsipas winning, but Rublev is also playing super tennis in this tournament. H2H though, Tsitsipas has the advantage, so probably a great match but I'm going to Tsitsipas to win here.

I am not betting on this one since Rublev can be quite unpredictable. He takes the ball very early and when he has his day he can win against anybody on fast surface. Tsitsipas has better H2H but all those games were close. If I had to bet I would go for over games in this match, especially if the line is set around 21,5. It will probably be higher but still worth taking since this one has 3 sets written all over for me.

You are right, Rublev is on the winning streak right now, beating my boy this time, 6-3, 7-6(2) H2H is now a tie. And that win against Tsitsipas extended streak at ATP 500 events to 19 matches. The record is held by Federer at 28.

On the other side, it was Fucsovics winning against Coric. So it will be Rublev vs Coric for the trophy this year in Rotterdam.
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March 06, 2021, 04:38:40 AM
Rotterdam semi-finals: Tsitsipas vs Rublev

What are your thoughts on this one?

Of course I have Tsitsipas winning, but Rublev is also playing super tennis in this tournament. H2H though, Tsitsipas has the advantage, so probably a great match but I'm going to Tsitsipas to win here.

I am not betting on this one since Rublev can be quite unpredictable. He takes the ball very early and when he has his day he can win against anybody on fast surface. Tsitsipas has better H2H but all those games were close. If I had to bet I would go for over games in this match, especially if the line is set around 21,5. It will probably be higher but still worth taking since this one has 3 sets written all over for me.
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March 06, 2021, 03:40:33 AM
Rotterdam semi-finals: Tsitsipas vs Rublev

What are your thoughts on this one?

Of course I have Tsitsipas winning, but Rublev is also playing super tennis in this tournament. H2H though, Tsitsipas has the advantage, so probably a great match but I'm going to Tsitsipas to win here.


I have the same prediction with you that Tsitsipas will advance to the Final, while for other semifinals between Coric vs Fucsovics, Coric is ahead in H2H with Fucsovics and I think this is the advantage for him to advance to the final against Tsitsipas, just my prediction.

Stepanos Tsitsipas just lost the double match today, and I think it later he will have this semis with Rublev. I'm sure that it will have an effect on his body with back to back matches, just saying.

I will also go with Coric, on the second semis, and I will say that he is more battle tested than Fucsovics.
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March 05, 2021, 11:44:01 PM
Rotterdam semi-finals: Tsitsipas vs Rublev

What are your thoughts on this one?

Of course I have Tsitsipas winning, but Rublev is also playing super tennis in this tournament. H2H though, Tsitsipas has the advantage, so probably a great match but I'm going to Tsitsipas to win here.


I have the same prediction with you that Tsitsipas will advance to the Final, while for other semifinals between Coric vs Fucsovics, Coric is ahead in H2H with Fucsovics and I think this is the advantage for him to advance to the final against Tsitsipas, just my prediction.
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March 05, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
Rotterdam semi-finals: Tsitsipas vs Rublev

What are your thoughts on this one?

Of course I have Tsitsipas winning, but Rublev is also playing super tennis in this tournament. H2H though, Tsitsipas has the advantage, so probably a great match but I'm going to Tsitsipas to win here.
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March 05, 2021, 04:50:55 PM
@vella85 - Yes I do agree, it was very unfortunate that Djokovic was disqualified that year, if now the complexion is going to be different and who knows what will be the outcome of the US Open.

I wanted the current breed of players to play against a healthy big 3 to really gauge if they have the mindset to turn it upside down. But in the Australian Open, we have seen Djokovic, with supposedly abdomen injury winning and I would say that it was a very easy win for him.

Yes this is what we are all waiting for, the young talent to rise up and take on the big three and even beat them in finals but they still can't do it even when Djokovic was carrying an injury at the AO, still Medvedev couldn't beat him and as you said Djokovic won the final easy. Medvedev said in a press conference that all the pressure is on Djokovic but really it was on him because the young talent still can't beat the top 3 and the pressure continues to build on the young talent to beat the top 3 because that is what we are all waiting to see. Also in the AO final, we could see that the pressure was getting to Medvedev so I found it funny that he said the pressure was on Djokovic but it was actually on Medvedev to rise up and beat Djokovic that was carrying an injury.
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March 05, 2021, 04:04:49 AM
@vella85 - Yes I do agree, it was very unfortunate that Djokovic was disqualified that year, if now the complexion is going to be different and who knows what will be the outcome of the US Open.

I wanted the current breed of players to play against a healthy big 3 to really gauge if they have the mindset to turn it upside down. But in the Australian Open, we have seen Djokovic, with supposedly abdomen injury winning and I would say that it was a very easy win for him.
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March 04, 2021, 07:35:18 PM
Yup, consistency and mental strength is what truly separates these 3 champions from the rest. The 100-2 record that Nadal has on Roland Garros (13/13 finals won) alone speaks of the level of tennis they have reached and are maintaining.

Since 2010 only 4 other players (Murray 3x, Wawrinka 3x, Čilić, Thiem) have won Grand slam titles. Even more impressive taking their age into consideration is that in the last 5 years the only GS that wasn't won by Federer, Nadal or Đoković was the last US Open - Federer and Nadal weren't even playing and Đoković withdrew mid-tournament.

The more you dig in, the more evident their true quality becomes.

Yup, 100% agree, mental toughness for the big 3, and we have been calling the young generations to at least developed this. However, it seems that the big 3 has mastered it already, and it's not taught inside the tennis court.

Just a masterful craft from Djokovic, Federer and Nadal.

Qatar Open womens semi finals: Kvitová vs Pegula, Azarenka vs Muruguza.
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March 04, 2021, 04:59:22 PM
I know some might disagree with my statement here but until the young talent starts winning major tournaments, then I think it will justify Medvedev taking the number two ranking.
I don't want to say whether agree or disagree with your opinion, but having a high ranking without the GS title does feel incomplete because GS is the main target of tennis players.
Seeing other players besides the top 3, winning the GS title is not an easy thing to, just look how D. Thiem had to lose several times in the GS final and only last year won one GS title, namely the US Open, so other players really have to fight harder to get to achieve the honorable title.
grand slam titles has their own charm, a GS is like the world cup of tennis, but i can see why Medvedev is in that spot in the rankings, when you guys say that he played a lot of tournaments, i see it as a really good thing that shows how consistent he is, also he didn't get injured a lot which is a good thing about him even though he played a lot of tournaments one after the other, props to him, he deserves his spot.
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March 04, 2021, 04:49:17 PM
I know some might disagree with my statement here but until the young talent starts winning major tournaments, then I think it will justify Medvedev taking the number two ranking.
I don't want to say whether agree or disagree with your opinion, but having a high ranking without the GS title does feel incomplete because GS is the main target of tennis players.
Seeing other players besides the top 3, winning the GS title is not an easy thing to, just look how D. Thiem had to lose several times in the GS final and only last year won one GS title, namely the US Open, so other players really have to fight harder to get to achieve the honorable title.

And he won without Djokovic isn't it?

So it could be be a different picture if Djokovic is present there, maybe just maybe Thiem wouldn't won the US Open, so still that is an empty title in my opinion. To be able to say that they have broken the monopoly of the big 3, Medvedev and Thiem and other young players should won a grand slam beating any on those 3 to be able to say that they have indeed arrived and will be taking over tennis from the old guards.

That is my point when it comes to rankings. Grand slams and major tournaments are the ones the big three seem to always win and it shows in the rankings. No disrespect to Medvedev but if he did over take Nadal, I don't think him being ranked number 2 justifies the ranking because he hasn't won a grand slam but has won many smaller tournaments and has played in 6 more tournaments then Nadal.

@Jating

I agree when it comes to last years US Open. Now we can't say for sure but I really do believe that if Djokovic didn't get kicked out that he would of won the title. Yes we saw an epic final between two young guns of tennis but still I'm not sure that either one would of beaten Djokovic if he was in the final.
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March 04, 2021, 08:09:53 AM
Yup, consistency and mental strength is what truly separates these 3 champions from the rest. The 100-2 record that Nadal has on Roland Garros (13/13 finals won) alone speaks of the level of tennis they have reached and are maintaining.

Since 2010 only 4 other players (Murray 3x, Wawrinka 3x, Čilić, Thiem) have won Grand slam titles. Even more impressive taking their age into consideration is that in the last 5 years the only GS that wasn't won by Federer, Nadal or Đoković was the last US Open - Federer and Nadal weren't even playing and Đoković withdrew mid-tournament.

The more you dig in, the more evident their true quality becomes.
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March 04, 2021, 07:24:35 AM
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That is true. I think once these three players retire we'll see Men's tennis a bit like what we are seeing in Women's tennis and that there will be many different players winning grand slams.
There is no doubt that Tennis would be much poor without Federer, Nadal and Djokovic. The problem i see with the new breed of players is that they lack consistency, just take a look at the match yesterday and how inconsistent Daniil Medvedev was and Dušan Lajović was a heavy underdog and Medvedev lost the match in straight set. Alexander Zverev the same, he was a heavy favorite yesterday against Alexander Bublik and lost the match. I placed $200 parlay on both these players and messed up big time  Cry.

As a fan we are watching the best players in the history of the sport performing and it is impossible to replace Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.
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March 04, 2021, 04:31:27 AM
I know some might disagree with my statement here but until the young talent starts winning major tournaments, then I think it will justify Medvedev taking the number two ranking.
I don't want to say whether agree or disagree with your opinion, but having a high ranking without the GS title does feel incomplete because GS is the main target of tennis players.
Seeing other players besides the top 3, winning the GS title is not an easy thing to, just look how D. Thiem had to lose several times in the GS final and only last year won one GS title, namely the US Open, so other players really have to fight harder to get to achieve the honorable title.

And he won without Djokovic isn't it?

So it could be be a different picture if Djokovic is present there, maybe just maybe Thiem wouldn't won the US Open, so still that is an empty title in my opinion. To be able to say that they have broken the monopoly of the big 3, Medvedev and Thiem and other young players should won a grand slam beating any on those 3 to be able to say that they have indeed arrived and will be taking over tennis from the old guards.
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March 04, 2021, 12:11:30 AM
I know some might disagree with my statement here but until the young talent starts winning major tournaments, then I think it will justify Medvedev taking the number two ranking.
I don't want to say whether agree or disagree with your opinion, but having a high ranking without the GS title does feel incomplete because GS is the main target of tennis players.
Seeing other players besides the top 3, winning the GS title is not an easy thing to, just look how D. Thiem had to lose several times in the GS final and only last year won one GS title, namely the US Open, so other players really have to fight harder to get to achieve the honorable title.
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March 03, 2021, 04:49:36 PM
Well Medvedev blew his chance to become number 2 ranked player in the world. Looking at the current rankings we can see that Medvedev has played in 6 more tournaments then Nadal and Djokovic and like I was saying it just shows how hard it is to knock off the top two players even though they play in less tournaments because they play and win the major tournaments where as the younger players don't win. Its ok to say that you are ranked number two if Medvedev did get there but in my opinion being ranked number two and playing in several more tournaments doesn't really justify the ranking in my opinion because these young players need to start winning grand slams and major tournaments to justify their high rankings. This is just my opinion on the rankings, I know some might disagree with my statement here but until the young talent starts winning major tournaments, then I think it will justify Medvedev taking the number two ranking.
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March 03, 2021, 12:35:20 PM
Medvedev will be at world no.2 if he reaches Rotterdam Finals. The last time someone other than Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Murray occupied the top 2 spot was in July 2005. You can understand how dominant the big 4 have been for so long. Its incredible.
Well, thats not happening now I suppose. I have to check what the top 5 standings would be with Medvedev out of the tournament. He started off really well but Lajovic was very consistent throughout the sets and I suppose that annoyed Medved? Not sure, but I did witness complete meltdown from him.

My prediction did not age well but it was almost worth it to lose the bet just to see that mental breakdown from Medvedev  Grin He serves a couple of double faults and then yells on ref and even earns a penalty point, priceless.
Yeah, I suppose thats one thing that separates the current and next gen from the Big 4. Although you do see Djokovic lose it sometimes..its mostly about him underperforming and trying to do better. The mentality to win is still there..but for next gen players, once they are annoyed(which isnt hard) they just go on a full on meltdown..hit everything out.. try some wacky stuff etc.

@vennali Medvedev is a talented player, but his lack of self control is effecting his game, and if doesn’t learn to control himself in situations like this then he’ll never be able to reach the top position which he does deserve in my opinion. @Trofo Djokovic is a different character and yes he does loses his cool at times, but he has a winning mentality too which Medvedev clearly lacks hence we can’t compare these two.

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https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/02/djokovic-explains-mentality-behind-his-unbeaten-start-season/87733/
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March 03, 2021, 12:18:30 PM
Medvedev will be at world no.2 if he reaches Rotterdam Finals. The last time someone other than Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Murray occupied the top 2 spot was in July 2005. You can understand how dominant the big 4 have been for so long. Its incredible.
Well, thats not happening now I suppose. I have to check what the top 5 standings would be with Medvedev out of the tournament. He started off really well but Lajovic was very consistent throughout the sets and I suppose that annoyed Medved? Not sure, but I did witness complete meltdown from him.

My prediction did not age well but it was almost worth it to lose the bet just to see that mental breakdown from Medvedev  Grin He serves a couple of double faults and then yells on ref and even earns a penalty point, priceless.
Yeah, I suppose thats one thing that separates the current and next gen from the Big 4. Although you do see Djokovic lose it sometimes..its mostly about him underperforming and trying to do better. The mentality to win is still there..but for next gen players, once they are annoyed(which isnt hard) they just go on a full on meltdown..hit everything out.. try some wacky stuff etc.
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March 03, 2021, 04:23:01 AM
Hopefully Medvedev can maintain his position, but it will be hard pressed to topple Djokovic at the top open. Nadal is somewhat plague with injuries and cannot perform 100% now, Federer is still out.
Medvedev is playing in Rotterdam this week. His first match is against Lajovic which should be a very easy one considering they are playing indoors on fast surface, very bad surface for Lajovic. I took 5.5 handicap on Medvedev @2.2 which is really a lot on fast surfaces but I feel like at least one set will be a one way street and that should cover this handicap.

Edit: My prediction did not age well but it was almost worth it to lose the bet just to see that mental breakdown from Medvedev  Grin He serves a couple of double faults and then yells on ref and even earns a penalty point, priceless.
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March 02, 2021, 07:21:55 PM
Medvedev will be at world no.2 if he reaches Rotterdam Finals. The last time someone other than Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Murray occupied the top 2 spot was in July 2005. You can understand how dominant the big 4 have been for so long. Its incredible.

And this one as well: World No.1 Novak Djokovic ties Federer’s record for weeks at the top.

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Novak Djokovic is gaining on Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal in the grand slam standings, and he’s already caught Federer in another significant statistic: as of Monday, Djokovic has been No.1 in the ATP rankings for a total of 310 weeks.

That equals Federer’s career record for most time spent atop the rankings. And no matter what happens over the next week, Djokovic is assured of breaking Federer’s mark on March 8.

And that shows how dominant the big 3 is, they are just switching rankings in the last decade or so.

Hopefully Medvedev can maintain his position, but it will be hard pressed to topple Djokovic at the top open. Nadal is somewhat plague with injuries and cannot perform 100% now, Federer is still out.
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