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Quote from: aoluain on November 23, 2023, 09:12:03 AM

I agree, that ship has sailed for sure for Nadal. Its probably getting to the stage of a similar expectation by
some people expecting Murray to get to a GS final.
As I posted above there are numerous players which will be in his way.

Anyone watching the Davis Cup Final 8?

Canada v Finland has already played with Finland winning that surprisingly and Czech Republic v Australia
with Australia winning.

Later today we have Italy v Netherlands playing and Serbia v Great Britain playing, Assuming Italy and Serbia
go through I wonder if we will see a Sinner v Djokovich match ^again before the year end?
I cant see odds for Italy but they should be favourites against the Netherlands and Serbia are favourites too
for today.

I wouldn't be so sure. If Rafa is to win any ATP title that will definitely be RG. There is some special bond between Rafa and Roland Garros. It's the tournament of his entire career. Perhaps it's wishful thinking but I truly believe Rafa can win RG once again.

As to the Davis Cup, I'll definitely not bet on Italy v Netherlands and Serbia v Great Britain as both these matches promise to be pretty close.

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I agree, that ship has sailed for sure for Nadal. Its probably getting to the stage of a similar expectation by
some people expecting Murray to get to a GS final.
As I posted above there are numerous players which will be in his way.

Anyone watching the Davis Cup Final 8?

Canada v Finland has already played with Finland winning that surprisingly and Czech Republic v Australia
with Australia winning.

Later today we have Italy v Netherlands playing and Serbia v Great Britain playing, Assuming Italy and Serbia
go through I wonder if we will see a Sinner v Djokovich match ^again before the year end?
I cant see odds for Italy but they should be favourites against the Netherlands and Serbia are favourites too
for today.

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That ship has probably sailed - I don't think that Nadal will make it to the RG final in 2024.
I wanted to go with a friend this year, but we were too late to organize properly and tickets were already too expensive to buy then.

We hoped for the last Đoković - Nadal final and luckily for us we didn't manage to go - because the final against Ruud really isn't something you organize for.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 21, 2023, 04:48:04 PM

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Haha no, not really, the company I used to advertise is located in Latvia. But anyway, I know lots of tennis fans who visit RG from much further away places too. I have seen a lot of live tennis in my life as my daughter is a tennis player. She is not a top 100 player of course, but I've seen quite a number of tennis matches in my life I must admit. Still, witnessing something like a Nadal v Djokovic RG final is a very special event. Let alone if this final is possibly the last in their careers.

You mean the last in Rafael Nadal's career Wink

I am pretty sure that we will see Djokovic playing for a few more years. He has made quite clear in recent interviews that he is fully determined to keep going for as long as his body and his mental state allow him to. When I see him playing, there aren't signed of fatigue or weariness or exhaustion. He is a professional like hardly anybody else. He understands what his body needs and knows very well how to time his tournaments and which ones to play to always have enough time to rest. As he said, he just had one of his most successful years in his entire career at the age of 36 and he is soon going to turn 37.

Having a kid playing tennis is nice and a great reason to share some time in front of the TV watching a five hours tennis match without the wife getting mad! ;P

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Quote from: serveria.com on November 22, 2023, 01:15:50 PM

Haha no, not really, the company I used to advertise is located in Latvia. But anyway, I know lots of tennis fans who visit RG from much further away places too. I have seen a lot of live tennis in my life as my daughter is a tennis player. She is not a top 100 player of course, but I've seen quite a number of tennis matches in my life I must admit. Still, witnessing something like a Nadal v Djokovic RG final is a very special event. Let alone if this final is possibly the last in their careers.

You're so lucky to have grown such a talented daughter who engaged in tennis matches as profession, though it might not be her time to among top tennis professionals but she will actually gets there and handle the basic responsibilities as a player. It's more related to football, having a favorite player you like and also applauding the performance of your favorite player. Tennis matches are interesting, I can't afford missing any important match because watching both rivals fighting really hard to win a game for the purpose to score significant points in games.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 19, 2023, 03:54:37 PM

I hope from the bottom of my heart that Nadal can start all the tournaments without health issues in 2024. Nothing would be worse than him having to say goodbye on his final ATP tour because of yet another injury. I have my doubts that we will see Djokovic against Nadal in one of the final rounds of a Grand Slam again, but if it's coming, both should be in their best physical condition and play their best tennis. If I had one wish for the 2024 tennis year, Nadal - Djokovic in the French Open final! Wink

Indeed, that is an ultimate dream of any tennis fan. I am even considering visiting Paris in that case. That is perhaps the last chance to see these two GOATs face each other in one final battle.

Although, Nadal v Djokovic final is highly unlikely as Djokovic is #1 and Nadal will most probably start as a WC and will have to face a highly competitive draw, possibly including Djokovic himself in early stages.

I apologize but I just did a little stalking and saw you are probably from Latvia or around that area? It is quite a trip, but honestly I understand if someone is enthusiastic about it and has a chance, the money and the time to see a last final at Roland Garros, seriously then go for it. This is really worth it I think because in a best case scenario the game is going to be a five hours thriller and the money paid would be worth it. I have never intended a tennis game, shame on me. But I became a fan when I once saw the GOATs play against each other and I couldn't believe how they were hammering the ball onto the lines for over four hours. It is an amazing sport, which involves every part from the head to the foot and the mind and every cell of the brain. It is extremely intense. So, I hope that little dream of yours may come true! Wink

Haha no, not really, the company I used to advertise is located in Latvia. But anyway, I know lots of tennis fans who visit RG from much further away places too. I have seen a lot of live tennis in my life as my daughter is a tennis player. She is not a top 100 player of course, but I've seen quite a number of tennis matches in my life I must admit. Still, witnessing something like a Nadal v Djokovic RG final is a very special event. Let alone if this final is possibly the last in their careers.

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Quote from: serveria.com on November 20, 2023, 05:18:11 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on November 19, 2023, 03:54:37 PM

I hope from the bottom of my heart that Nadal can start all the tournaments without health issues in 2024. Nothing would be worse than him having to say goodbye on his final ATP tour because of yet another injury. I have my doubts that we will see Djokovic against Nadal in one of the final rounds of a Grand Slam again, but if it's coming, both should be in their best physical condition and play their best tennis. If I had one wish for the 2024 tennis year, Nadal - Djokovic in the French Open final! Wink

Indeed, that is an ultimate dream of any tennis fan. I am even considering visiting Paris in that case. That is perhaps the last chance to see these two GOATs face each other in one final battle.

Although, Nadal v Djokovic final is highly unlikely as Djokovic is #1 and Nadal will most probably start as a WC and will have to face a highly competitive draw, possibly including Djokovic himself in early stages.

I apologize but I just did a little stalking and saw you are probably from Latvia or around that area? It is quite a trip, but honestly I understand if someone is enthusiastic about it and has a chance, the money and the time to see a last final at Roland Garros, seriously then go for it. This is really worth it I think because in a best case scenario the game is going to be a five hours thriller and the money paid would be worth it. I have never intended a tennis game, shame on me. But I became a fan when I once saw the GOATs play against each other and I couldn't believe how they were hammering the ball onto the lines for over four hours. It is an amazing sport, which involves every part from the head to the foot and the mind and every cell of the brain. It is extremely intense. So, I hope that little dream of yours may come true! Wink

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Quote from: serveria.com on November 20, 2023, 05:18:11 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on November 19, 2023, 03:54:37 PM

I hope from the bottom of my heart that Nadal can start all the tournaments without health issues in 2024. Nothing would be worse than him having to say goodbye on his final ATP tour because of yet another injury. I have my doubts that we will see Djokovic against Nadal in one of the final rounds of a Grand Slam again, but if it's coming, both should be in their best physical condition and play their best tennis. If I had one wish for the 2024 tennis year, Nadal - Djokovic in the French Open final! Wink

Indeed, that is an ultimate dream of any tennis fan. I am even considering visiting Paris in that case. That is perhaps the last chance to see these two GOATs face each other in one final battle.

Although, Nadal v Djokovic final is highly unlikely as Djokovic is #1 and Nadal will most probably start as a WC and will have to face a highly competitive draw, possibly including Djokovic himself in early stages.

TBH I think its going to be tough for him, there are so many top players who will be able to beat him
in 2024 IMO.

Look at the top 20 there are a good few names there who will give him a hard time, depending on the
court surface of course. Certainly any of the top 10 can beat him. Its another year, he is older and the
younger players have developed their game more.

01. Novak Djokovic
02. Carlos Alcaraz
03. Daniil Medvedev
04. Jannik Sinner
05. Andrey Rublev
06. Stefanos Tsitsipas
07. Alexander Zverev
08. Holger Rune
09. Hubert Hurkacz
10. Taylor Fritz
11. Casper Ruud
12. Alex de Minaur
13. Tommy Paul
14. Grigor Dimitrov
15. Karen Khachanov
16. Frances Tiafoe
17. Ben Shelton
18. Cameron Norrie
19. Nicolas Jarry
20. Ugo Humbert

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 19, 2023, 03:54:37 PM

I hope from the bottom of my heart that Nadal can start all the tournaments without health issues in 2024. Nothing would be worse than him having to say goodbye on his final ATP tour because of yet another injury. I have my doubts that we will see Djokovic against Nadal in one of the final rounds of a Grand Slam again, but if it's coming, both should be in their best physical condition and play their best tennis. If I had one wish for the 2024 tennis year, Nadal - Djokovic in the French Open final! Wink

Indeed, that is an ultimate dream of any tennis fan. I am even considering visiting Paris in that case. That is perhaps the last chance to see these two GOATs face each other in one final battle.

Although, Nadal v Djokovic final is highly unlikely as Djokovic is #1 and Nadal will most probably start as a WC and will have to face a highly competitive draw, possibly including Djokovic himself in early stages.

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 20, 2023, 12:27:52 PM

impressive win by Djokovic definitely, there is no more to add. he is one of the best player around the seed and probably just the best able to win such important finals.

moreover yesterday Sinner has played one of the worst match I have ever seen ... he was completely absent, and not able to collect the few chances he had.

I agree, it was as if he was like a rabbit caught in car headlights, it was the same
for Alcaraz in the semi final but Djokovic played top tennis.

Was this either psychological playing in such an important final or was it the way
Djokovic was hitting the ball or both?

Very strange to not even be able to bring the match to 3 sets.

Quote from: cryptofrka on November 20, 2023, 06:38:29 AM

Due to his playstyle, Nadal had huge issues with injuries even when he was young.
I really feel he should not be pushing his body anymore - and I think he will not be able to return properly.

I understand the need to try and stop Đoković, but whereas Novak looks like he can play for a few more years, you can clearly see how much Nadal is struggling every time he's on the court.

Good point about Nadal, he has forced his body a lot over the years and there are
consequences which are paying now.

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impressive win by Djokovic definitely, there is no more to add. he is one of the best player around the seed and probably just the best able to win such important finals.

moreover yesterday Sinner has played one of the worst match I have ever seen ... he was completely absent, and not able to collect the few chances he had.

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Quote from: bct_ail on November 20, 2023, 08:22:44 AM

Congratulations to Djokovic. With 7 titles, he is the sole record winner at the ATP Finals.
And he almost did not reach the semi-finals. But in this final he showed Sinner who is the number 1. He needed only 38 minutes for the first set. What a performance. And the second set started breathtakingly again. A break in the first game and then fighting off two break chances from Sinner.
Nevertheless, Sinner can be proud of himself and next year will certainly be a very good year for him.

It really was pretty great two sets for Djokovic and he didn't give the Sinner single chance to gain an advantage, but it should have been finished sooner to be able to immediately prove who deserves to defend first place and have the title at this year.
Previously in the semifinals Djokovic also made Alcaraz unable to do much and in two sets Djokovic finished the semifinal match.
He managed to have seven ATP Finals and ATP Masters 1000 titles as well as Grand Slam which also surpassed Nadal record.

At the age of 36, he cannot be beaten by other great young tennis players and still continues to win titles.

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Congratulations to Djokovic. With 7 titles, he is the sole record winner at the ATP Finals.
And he almost did not reach the semi-finals. But in this final he showed Sinner who is the number 1. He needed only 38 minutes for the first set. What a performance. And the second set started breathtakingly again. A break in the first game and then fighting off two break chances from Sinner.
Nevertheless, Sinner can be proud of himself and next year will certainly be a very good year for him.

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Due to his playstyle, Nadal had huge issues with injuries even when he was young.
I really feel he should not be pushing his body anymore - and I think he will not be able to return properly.

I understand the need to try and stop Đoković, but whereas Novak looks like he can play for a few more years, you can clearly see how much Nadal is struggling every time he's on the court.

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Of course it will be great to see Rafa back in action for next year. From this article it sounds
like ATM he is still building

https://www.tennis.com/baseline/articles/rafael-nadal-confirms-he-ll-play-in-2024-things-are-going-in-the-right-direction

Reading between the lines its touch and go as to how competitive he will be and I
would say this could be his last year, hopefully not though but I think the chances are
high that he gets injured again.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 19, 2023, 02:28:32 PM

This time I saw more voices on this forum saying that Sinner probably has a great chance to win the game, but what can I say... Djokovic is Djokovic and he did everything to mute those voices and go in two straight sets. I also thought that this could very well go into a third set and I ask myself whether Sinner played worse than the last few days or whether Djokovic didn't take any prisoners from the first second to the last. If this was a three set game, it would look like Sinner may have been close and besides winning this tournament, I believe that Djokovic also wanted to let the pro-Sinner crowd know who the boss is. And he did.

Sinner definitely played worse today, how many unforced errors he committed? 20? 25? Anyway it was a lot. Djokovic's serve was flawless tonight. He also attacked Sinner's backhand quite aggressively. All in all the Serb deserved this win. I admire his ability to play at his age at the top level.

I hope from the bottom of my heart that Nadal can start all the tournaments without health issues in 2024. Nothing would be worse than him having to say goodbye on his final ATP tour because of yet another injury. I have my doubts that we will see Djokovic against Nadal in one of the final rounds of a Grand Slam again, but if it's coming, both should be in their best physical condition and play their best tennis. If I had one wish for the 2024 tennis year, Nadal - Djokovic in the French Open final! Wink

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Quote from: serveria.com on November 19, 2023, 02:53:00 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on November 19, 2023, 02:28:32 PM

Quote from: bitbollo on November 19, 2023, 05:28:10 AM

Quote from: aoluain on November 19, 2023, 04:29:39 AM

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Anyway, Sinner v Djokovic again. TBH I fear for Sinner, Djokovic is treating this as another record
which has to be broken. He is level with Federer on 6 Finals wins, he will want to beat that.

it will definitely be an epic match... one of the main reason is that Sinner is the first Italian tennis player to reach this milestone and in the event of victory he would reach a historic record also in terms of prize money won (over 4 million dollars).
last but not least, he is playing in Torino Roll Eyes

and italians love see other italians achieve such high results Tongue

Djokovic is always a "loose cannon", he will do everything to win I'm sure...

This time I saw more voices on this forum saying that Sinner probably has a great chance to win the game, but what can I say... Djokovic is Djokovic and he did everything to mute those voices and go in two straight sets. I also thought that this could very well go into a third set and I ask myself whether Sinner played worse than the last few days or whether Djokovic didn't take any prisoners from the first second to the last. If this was a three set game, it would look like Sinner may have been close and besides winning this tournament, I believe that Djokovic also wanted to let the pro-Sinner crowd know who the boss is. And he did.

Sinner definitely played worse today, how many unforced errors he committed? 20? 25? Anyway it was a lot. Djokovic's serve was flawless tonight. He also attacked Sinner's backhand quite aggressively. All in all the Serb deserved this win. I admire his ability to play at his age at the top level.

That final was a replay of the Alcaraz v Djokovic semi final yesterday, the net again was
Sinner's enemy, way too many errors, completely different Sinner . . .

Quote from: cryptofrka on November 19, 2023, 03:37:59 PM

Ouch, I picked the wrong tournament to bet against Đoković. The odds were simply too attractive but neither Medvedev nor Sinner came close to an upset.

Đoković learned quite a bit from his recent loss against Sinner and adapted much better - that's what experience does at this level.
It's incredible how he can still perform the way he does at his current age. I don't think he'll return any worse next year.

Djokovic really couldnt too much wrong, thats final time, Djokovic plays differently, he knows what
matches are more important than others. He more than liklely knew losing to Sinner earlier in the week
was not detrimental and probablt knew he would meed him again in the final . . . just as some here
on the board did too!

I also think next year wil be a continuation of 2023 for Djokovic.

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Ouch, I picked the wrong tournament to bet against Đoković. The odds were simply too attractive but neither Medvedev nor Sinner came close to an upset.

Đoković learned quite a bit from his recent loss against Sinner and adapted much better - that's what experience does at this level.
It's incredible how he can still perform the way he does at his current age. I don't think he'll return any worse next year.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 19, 2023, 02:28:32 PM

Quote from: bitbollo on November 19, 2023, 05:28:10 AM

Quote from: aoluain on November 19, 2023, 04:29:39 AM

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Anyway, Sinner v Djokovic again. TBH I fear for Sinner, Djokovic is treating this as another record
which has to be broken. He is level with Federer on 6 Finals wins, he will want to beat that.

it will definitely be an epic match... one of the main reason is that Sinner is the first Italian tennis player to reach this milestone and in the event of victory he would reach a historic record also in terms of prize money won (over 4 million dollars).
last but not least, he is playing in Torino Roll Eyes

and italians love see other italians achieve such high results Tongue

Djokovic is always a "loose cannon", he will do everything to win I'm sure...

This time I saw more voices on this forum saying that Sinner probably has a great chance to win the game, but what can I say... Djokovic is Djokovic and he did everything to mute those voices and go in two straight sets. I also thought that this could very well go into a third set and I ask myself whether Sinner played worse than the last few days or whether Djokovic didn't take any prisoners from the first second to the last. If this was a three set game, it would look like Sinner may have been close and besides winning this tournament, I believe that Djokovic also wanted to let the pro-Sinner crowd know who the boss is. And he did.

Sinner definitely played worse today, how many unforced errors he committed? 20? 25? Anyway it was a lot. Djokovic's serve was flawless tonight. He also attacked Sinner's backhand quite aggressively. All in all the Serb deserved this win. I admire his ability to play at his age at the top level.

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 19, 2023, 05:28:10 AM

Quote from: aoluain on November 19, 2023, 04:29:39 AM

...
Anyway, Sinner v Djokovic again. TBH I fear for Sinner, Djokovic is treating this as another record
which has to be broken. He is level with Federer on 6 Finals wins, he will want to beat that.

it will definitely be an epic match... one of the main reason is that Sinner is the first Italian tennis player to reach this milestone and in the event of victory he would reach a historic record also in terms of prize money won (over 4 million dollars).
last but not least, he is playing in Torino Roll Eyes

and italians love see other italians achieve such high results Tongue

Djokovic is always a "loose cannon", he will do everything to win I'm sure...

This time I saw more voices on this forum saying that Sinner probably has a great chance to win the game, but what can I say... Djokovic is Djokovic and he did everything to mute those voices and go in two straight sets. I also thought that this could very well go into a third set and I ask myself whether Sinner played worse than the last few days or whether Djokovic didn't take any prisoners from the first second to the last. If this was a three set game, it would look like Sinner may have been close and besides winning this tournament, I believe that Djokovic also wanted to let the pro-Sinner crowd know who the boss is. And he did.

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