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Quote from: Kemarit on December 06, 2018, 04:32:38 AM

@vella85 - That's the only viable reason that I understand as well. I mean there will be big money coming from it will be pump $3 million, but the money will be coming from someone whose not even involved in the sports (Gerard Pique, through his company Kosmos, a footballer) which makes it harder for Tennis fans and players to swallows. Anyways, if it will bring tons of money as sponsorship to rival Grand Slam tennis then I guess it will be for the good of the sports in the long run.

Yeah true my friend, Like we have said it is mostly for the money however like you mentioned if the Davis cup can become as big as the 4 Grand Slam tournaments then yes I think it would be good for tennis. I actually like Davis Cup tennis however it doesn't seem to be as big as it once was so this could also be why they are going to change the format of the Davis Cup. I think we just need to wait and see how it goes and hopefully it will be a success for tennis and the fans.

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@vella85 - That's the only viable reason that I understand as well. I mean there will be big money coming from it will be pump $3 million, but the money will be coming from someone whose not even involved in the sports (Gerard Pique, through his company Kosmos, a footballer) which makes it harder for Tennis fans and players to swallows. Anyways, if it will bring tons of money as sponsorship to rival Grand Slam tennis then I guess it will be for the good of the sports in the long run.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 05, 2018, 09:40:19 PM

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Croatia have won their second ever Davis Cup title after Marin Cilic beat Lucas Pouille in straight sets to give Croatia a 3-1 lead over hosts and defending champions France which meant Croatia already won with the final match being a dead rubber. Croatia last won the Davis Cup in 2005 so it was good to see them win it again after 13 years. Next year the format for the Davis Cup will change so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

I really can't believed that after 118 years, they finally decided to change the format. As for Croatia, they come closed in 2016 but this time they can't be denied and finally raised the trophy after 13 years. If you still remembered, they are up 2-1 against Argentina in 2016 and had high hopes that they can be the eventual champion. So its like Cilic is having a de javu again, up 2-1 against France but this time its "no history repeating itself", as Cilic beats Lucas Pouille convincingly.

Well this time Croatia got one up over the French, its like they wanted to get this win to make up for the loss to France in the World Cup earlier this year. I'm sure that Cilic and the other players made their country proud winning the Davis Cup and making up for their countries loss in the World Cup. I know its not as big as football but at least they won something for their country.

LOL, I totally forgot the World Cup rivalry between the two. Grin

. Indeed France beat them this year so this is like a revenge and at least them gave them something for their country to be proud of.

What can you say about the change in format though? the "a home-or-away qualifying round", I read that a lot of players (past and present) opposes this new plan, but still the organizers pushes thorough.

I also forgot until I saw a video on YouTube about the world cup and then I remembered that it was played between France and Croatia and that France won. Anyway it was nice to see Croatia win and give their country something to be happy about.

Yeah I'm not a big fan of these changes either as why change something that has been working well for a long time. Its all to do with money now and sponsorship deals so I guess that's why we will see the change in 2019 which is a shame.

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Quote from: vella85 on December 05, 2018, 04:12:24 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on December 05, 2018, 01:58:06 AM

Quote from: vella85 on December 02, 2018, 04:39:47 PM

Croatia have won their second ever Davis Cup title after Marin Cilic beat Lucas Pouille in straight sets to give Croatia a 3-1 lead over hosts and defending champions France which meant Croatia already won with the final match being a dead rubber. Croatia last won the Davis Cup in 2005 so it was good to see them win it again after 13 years. Next year the format for the Davis Cup will change so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

I really can't believed that after 118 years, they finally decided to change the format. As for Croatia, they come closed in 2016 but this time they can't be denied and finally raised the trophy after 13 years. If you still remembered, they are up 2-1 against Argentina in 2016 and had high hopes that they can be the eventual champion. So its like Cilic is having a de javu again, up 2-1 against France but this time its "no history repeating itself", as Cilic beats Lucas Pouille convincingly.

Well this time Croatia got one up over the French, its like they wanted to get this win to make up for the loss to France in the World Cup earlier this year. I'm sure that Cilic and the other players made their country proud winning the Davis Cup and making up for their countries loss in the World Cup. I know its not as big as football but at least they won something for their country.

LOL, I totally forgot the World Cup rivalry between the two. Grin

. Indeed France beat them this year so this is like a revenge and at least them gave them something for their country to be proud of.

What can you say about the change in format though? the "a home-or-away qualifying round", I read that a lot of players (past and present) opposes this new plan, but still the organizers pushes thorough.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 05, 2018, 01:58:06 AM

Quote from: vella85 on December 02, 2018, 04:39:47 PM

Croatia have won their second ever Davis Cup title after Marin Cilic beat Lucas Pouille in straight sets to give Croatia a 3-1 lead over hosts and defending champions France which meant Croatia already won with the final match being a dead rubber. Croatia last won the Davis Cup in 2005 so it was good to see them win it again after 13 years. Next year the format for the Davis Cup will change so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

I really can't believed that after 118 years, they finally decided to change the format. As for Croatia, they come closed in 2016 but this time they can't be denied and finally raised the trophy after 13 years. If you still remembered, they are up 2-1 against Argentina in 2016 and had high hopes that they can be the eventual champion. So its like Cilic is having a de javu again, up 2-1 against France but this time its "no history repeating itself", as Cilic beats Lucas Pouille convincingly.

Well this time Croatia got one up over the French, its like they wanted to get this win to make up for the loss to France in the World Cup earlier this year. I'm sure that Cilic and the other players made their country proud winning the Davis Cup and making up for their countries loss in the World Cup. I know its not as big as football but at least they won something for their country.

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Quote from: vella85 on December 02, 2018, 04:39:47 PM

Croatia have won their second ever Davis Cup title after Marin Cilic beat Lucas Pouille in straight sets to give Croatia a 3-1 lead over hosts and defending champions France which meant Croatia already won with the final match being a dead rubber. Croatia last won the Davis Cup in 2005 so it was good to see them win it again after 13 years. Next year the format for the Davis Cup will change so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

I really can't believed that after 118 years, they finally decided to change the format. As for Croatia, they come closed in 2016 but this time they can't be denied and finally raised the trophy after 13 years. If you still remembered, they are up 2-1 against Argentina in 2016 and had high hopes that they can be the eventual champion. So its like Cilic is having a de javu again, up 2-1 against France but this time its "no history repeating itself", as Cilic beats Lucas Pouille convincingly.

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Quote from: vella85 on December 02, 2018, 04:39:47 PM

Croatia have won their second ever Davis Cup title after Marin Cilic beat Lucas Pouille in straight sets to give Croatia a 3-1 lead over hosts and defending champions France which meant Croatia already won with the final match being a dead rubber. Croatia last won the Davis Cup in 2005 so it was good to see them win it again after 13 years. Next year the format for the Davis Cup will change so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

Croatia played well and they deserved to win the cup, I was expecting better from France but they disappointed. I don't think I'll be seeing the final match, as Croatia are already declared winners that match will just be a formality, and will lack the intensity. Croatia winning the cup after 18 years is an ominous sign for them, hopefully they'll improve going ahead.

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Croatia have won their second ever Davis Cup title after Marin Cilic beat Lucas Pouille in straight sets to give Croatia a 3-1 lead over hosts and defending champions France which meant Croatia already won with the final match being a dead rubber. Croatia last won the Davis Cup in 2005 so it was good to see them win it again after 13 years. Next year the format for the Davis Cup will change so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

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Quote from: vella85 on November 23, 2018, 04:50:56 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 23, 2018, 01:18:07 AM

I read an article about an interview with Djokovic saying that he lost because he is still not feeling well, remember he said that as well in the Paris Masters so there could be truth about that. However, there are some fans as well saying that Djokovic is making an excuse again after he lost. But for me, it really looks like its the case. Maybe his body is showing some toll as well, he went from rank 22th or 23rd to become number 1, and streaks leading to tournaments his in. When you push your body like that, something has to give up, our body can only take that much beating.

I believe that what Djokovic is saying is true as like you said he has battled hard to come back from his injury and to come from ranked 20+ in the world and make it to number #1 in just 6 months is an amazing achievement so we can understand if he isn't feeling at his best. At least now he can rest up like the rest of them and be ready for the start of the 2019 season.

Obviously those guys are not robot, their body will take a hit no matter how great you are or whatever ranking you got. Djokovic is no exception and just what you can have analyse, leading up and getting back to #1 is incredible but at the end of the day, his body may have reacted negatively so its better to rest and prepare again for the next battle in 2019.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 23, 2018, 01:18:07 AM

I read an article about an interview with Djokovic saying that he lost because he is still not feeling well, remember he said that as well in the Paris Masters so there could be truth about that. However, there are some fans as well saying that Djokovic is making an excuse again after he lost. But for me, it really looks like its the case. Maybe his body is showing some toll as well, he went from rank 22th or 23rd to become number 1, and streaks leading to tournaments his in. When you push your body like that, something has to give up, our body can only take that much beating.

I believe that what Djokovic is saying is true as like you said he has battled hard to come back from his injury and to come from ranked 20+ in the world and make it to number #1 in just 6 months is an amazing achievement so we can understand if he isn't feeling at his best. At least now he can rest up like the rest of them and be ready for the start of the 2019 season.

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Quote from: vella85 on November 19, 2018, 05:07:52 PM

I have been reading a lot of news reports that Alexander Zverev beating Djokovic in the London ATP final is the changing of the guard. I don't fully agree with this just yet as Zverev still needs to prove himself on the big stage like Grand Slam tournaments. Like we have all been saying in this thread all year, the young talent does well in the smaller tournaments but when it comes to Grand Slams they don't seem to do as well as they do in these tournaments. We shall see next year if the young talent can become a force in Grand Slam tournaments. However Thiem and Zverev do look the stand outs for me with a few others that have shown glimpses of greatness.

I'll second this youngsters like him and Thiem do cause upsets on smaller tournaments, but lack the courage or they choke out when it matters the most i.e. Winning grand slams. I believe these media headlines are nothing but paid Pr as more lime light makes them get exclusive deals, for me these two have a long way before I call them a threat to Nadal, Federer and Djokovic.

Quote from: Kemarit on November 23, 2018, 01:18:07 AM

I read an article about an interview with Djokovic saying that he lost because he is still not feeling well, remember he said that as well in the Paris Masters so there could be truth about that.

If a top athlete like Djokovic says he's not 100% I would believe him, he's in top 5 for a while now, he's been performing extremely hard and yes that has consequences on his body. I wish he recovers and is fully fit for next years grand slams.

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I read an article about an interview with Djokovic saying that he lost because he is still not feeling well, remember he said that as well in the Paris Masters so there could be truth about that. However, there are some fans as well saying that Djokovic is making an excuse again after he lost. But for me, it really looks like its the case. Maybe his body is showing some toll as well, he went from rank 22th or 23rd to become number 1, and streaks leading to tournaments his in. When you push your body like that, something has to give up, our body can only take that much beating.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 19, 2018, 05:34:17 PM

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I have been reading a lot of news reports that Alexander Zverev beating Djokovic in the London ATP final is the changing of the guard. I don't fully agree with this just yet as Zverev still needs to prove himself on the big stage like Grand Slam tournaments. Like we have all been saying in this thread all year, the young talent does well in the smaller tournaments but when it comes to Grand Slams they don't seem to do as well as they do in these tournaments. We shall see next year if the young talent can become a force in Grand Slam tournaments. However Thiem and Zverev do look the stand outs for me with a few others that have shown glimpses of greatness.

I agree, its too early to say if Zverev will carry the torch for the young lads in tennis. As I have said before, they haven't perform against the veterans in a Grand Slam tournaments. So I don't know about the big fuss about Zverev beating Djokovic in this tournament means changing of the guards. He still needs to go to a lot of psychological barrier, he needs to be mentally though and I don't see him at this point the way Nadal, Federer did at the early stage of their career.

The only one of the young talent to make a Grand Slam final was Thiem but when he did come up against Nadal he was no match for him as he lost in straight sets when compared to when the two players met in a tournament before the French Open where Thiem actually beat Nadal but when it came to the big stage he couldn't get the job done. So I agree with you the young talent still have a way to go before they can start to match it with the veterans of Men's tennis.

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Quote from: vella85 on November 19, 2018, 05:07:52 PM

I have been reading a lot of news reports that Alexander Zverev beating Djokovic in the London ATP final is the changing of the guard. I don't fully agree with this just yet as Zverev still needs to prove himself on the big stage like Grand Slam tournaments. Like we have all been saying in this thread all year, the young talent does well in the smaller tournaments but when it comes to Grand Slams they don't seem to do as well as they do in these tournaments. We shall see next year if the young talent can become a force in Grand Slam tournaments. However Thiem and Zverev do look the stand outs for me with a few others that have shown glimpses of greatness.

I agree, its too early to say if Zverev will carry the torch for the young lads in tennis. As I have said before, they haven't perform against the veterans in a Grand Slam tournaments. So I don't know about the big fuss about Zverev beating Djokovic in this tournament means changing of the guards. He still needs to go to a lot of psychological barrier, he needs to be mentally though and I don't see him at this point the way Nadal, Federer did at the early stage of their career.

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I have been reading a lot of news reports that Alexander Zverev beating Djokovic in the London ATP final is the changing of the guard. I don't fully agree with this just yet as Zverev still needs to prove himself on the big stage like Grand Slam tournaments. Like we have all been saying in this thread all year, the young talent does well in the smaller tournaments but when it comes to Grand Slams they don't seem to do as well as they do in these tournaments. We shall see next year if the young talent can become a force in Grand Slam tournaments. However Thiem and Zverev do look the stand outs for me with a few others that have shown glimpses of greatness.

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Alexander Zverev upsets Djokovic in straight sets to win the final ATP tournament of the year. Djokovic was set to equal Federer’s record of six ATP Finals wins but it wasn't to be. Zverev also makes some history as he becomes just the fourth player to beat Federer and Djokovic in the semi-final and final of the same tournament joining Murray, Nadal, and David Nalbandian.

So Djokovic ends the year as the number #1 ranked player with Nadal second and Federer third.

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Darn, that now makes it two tournaments in a row where the possible final could of been Federer v Djokovic but once again that's not going to happen with Federer losing to Zverev in straight sets 5-7 6-7 Djokovic won his match easily beating Anderson in straight sets 6-2 6-2 I was hoping to see Federer/Djokovic fight it out in the last major tournament for the year but it wasn't to be. I think Djokovic will end with the win to cap off an amazing last half of the year. Its been an amazing last half for Djokovic as he won the last two grand slams of the year and will finish the year on top ranked number #1 so its been an incredible year for him.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 15, 2018, 11:40:32 PM

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Very true my friend, we shall see next year how well Nadal has recovered from this injury.

There is a world indoor tournament going on right now in London with Djokovic and Anderson dominating so far both winning both of their matches while Federer is 1 win and 1 loss. Federer needs to beat Anderson in his next match if he has a chance to make it through and Thiem will need to beat Nishikori so its going to be interesting to see what happens. Djokovic plays Cilic, if Djokovic wins he is through if not it opens up the dorr for other other players in his group.

Right. But it make things complicated for Federer though because of different scenarios. If Federer won against Anderson and Nishikori beats Thiem, its possible that he won't advance as well and it all depend on who wins and how many set and games. And then there could be another scenario that if Federer by chance lose to Anderson in three sets but he can also advance if then Thiem bet Ken Nishikori in two sets.

Well look what happened lol Federer beat Anderson in straight sets which now puts Federer on equal points and equal set wins/loss 4:2 each. Thiem also helped by beating Nishikori in straight sets. So from my understand of how this set up works, Anderson and Federer both make it through to the finals. We now just have to wait on one more match as we already know that Djokovic is through. The question is which other player will join Djokovic in the finals out of this group? Will it be Cilic who faces Djokovic or will it be Zverev who faces Isner.

LOL. But I thought that with this format only one player will advance but I was wrong. So Federer and Anderson advancing with identical records while Thiem and Nishikori are ousted from the Group Lleyton Hewitt. On the other side of the bracket, Djokovic is sure of a slot, but the other one slot is up for grabs and I'm thinking that it might be Zverev advancing.

Yes I first thought this as well but remembered that this is the final big tournament of the year and its for the best players in the world who fight it out for that last title. So the top two from each group go through to play in the semi-finals. Djokovic looks unbeatable right now as he has gone through the group without losing a match or a set. The good news is that we could see a Djokovic and Federer final as Djokovic takes on Anderson while Federer must play Zverev.

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Quote from: vella85 on November 15, 2018, 05:46:10 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 15, 2018, 05:37:00 AM

Quote from: vella85 on November 14, 2018, 06:16:01 PM

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Very true my friend, we shall see next year how well Nadal has recovered from this injury.

There is a world indoor tournament going on right now in London with Djokovic and Anderson dominating so far both winning both of their matches while Federer is 1 win and 1 loss. Federer needs to beat Anderson in his next match if he has a chance to make it through and Thiem will need to beat Nishikori so its going to be interesting to see what happens. Djokovic plays Cilic, if Djokovic wins he is through if not it opens up the dorr for other other players in his group.

Right. But it make things complicated for Federer though because of different scenarios. If Federer won against Anderson and Nishikori beats Thiem, its possible that he won't advance as well and it all depend on who wins and how many set and games. And then there could be another scenario that if Federer by chance lose to Anderson in three sets but he can also advance if then Thiem bet Ken Nishikori in two sets.

Well look what happened lol Federer beat Anderson in straight sets which now puts Federer on equal points and equal set wins/loss 4:2 each. Thiem also helped by beating Nishikori in straight sets. So from my understand of how this set up works, Anderson and Federer both make it through to the finals. We now just have to wait on one more match as we already know that Djokovic is through. The question is which other player will join Djokovic in the finals out of this group? Will it be Cilic who faces Djokovic or will it be Zverev who faces Isner.

LOL. But I thought that with this format only one player will advance but I was wrong. So Federer and Anderson advancing with identical records while Thiem and Nishikori are ousted from the Group Lleyton Hewitt. On the other side of the bracket, Djokovic is sure of a slot, but the other one slot is up for grabs and I'm thinking that it might be Zverev advancing.

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