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Quote from: Kemarit on November 05, 2018, 04:11:33 AM

Indeed, this is a big upset, Khachanov we can't take anything from him. Although I see reports that Novak says that he has been ill for the past couple of days and maybe Yes, the match against Federer really push his body to the limits that's why he feel sluggish against his match to Karen Khachanov. But we all know that Djokovic will remain the number 1 player so he can take 'consolation' about that. Grin

Yeah it could of been that Djokovic was feeling ill the last couple of days but he looked fine to me when he was playing against Federer so I'm just not sure about his statement on this. Maybe its true and like you said the Federer match took its toll on his body and that is why he was sluggish in his match with Khachanov.

On another note, I wonder what Nadal will do now that he is ranked number #2, to be honest there is no point him playing on this year and now should rest up ready for 2019. What do you guys think?

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Indeed, this is a big upset, Khachanov we can't take anything from him. Although I see reports that Novak says that he has been ill for the past couple of days and maybe Yes, the match against Federer really push his body to the limits that's why he feel sluggish against his match to Karen Khachanov. But we all know that Djokovic will remain the number 1 player so he can take 'consolation' about that. Grin

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WOW! A major upset in the Paris Masters final with Khachanov upstaging Djokovic winning in straight sets. I really think the Federer match took its toll on Djokovic as that was an epic match going for 3 hours and both players said that it was one of their best matches all year. But lets not take anything away from Khachanov who has been in fine form this whole tournament beating some of the best players in tennis and now beating the number #1 ranked player in the world, well Djokovic is still ranked number #2 but after the rankings are updated he will be number #1. So a big congrats to Khachanov on the huge win!

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Djokovic has beaten Federer in three sets and what a match it was with two of the three sets going to tie breaks. In the other semi-final there was an upset with the Russian Karen Khachanov beating Thiem in straight sets, Thiem was down today on his first serves at just 55% and on wins with second serves at 32% which saw him lose the match as Khachanov dominated in these areas of the match and deserved the win. Now can he do it again against Djokovic in the final? I don't think so but with the form Khachanov has been in this tournament, it wouldn't surprise me. If Djokovic wins we will see a newly crowned number #1.

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There was a big upset today with A. Zverev the 4th seeded player losing to unseeded Karen Khachanov in straight sets. Zverev simply was no match for Khachanov as he won 1-6 2-6 which in my book is a dominating performance by the Russian. There is a match going on right now between Nishikori and Federer with Federer currently leading 1 set to 0 and is up 2 games to 0 in the second set so unless Nishikori can turn it around quickly it looks like Federer will be going through to the semi finals to face Djokovic who won earlier today in 3 sets.

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@ vennali , vella85 - Yeah that's right, Djokovic will end the year at the top. Just imagine a few months ago, he was rank like 20+ if I'm not mistaken but came back, and came back strong winning titles that push him on top and regain his confidence. So its really good to see him at #1 again.

Juggy777 - Sadly though its Nadal turn to have this injuries in worst time. Yes, we have discussions from the past and I read that its not his intention to be the number 1 at the end of the year, he just wanted to compete however, its a different injury this time, so he has no choice but to take rest.

Wasn't able to watch any match lately but I read that Federer and Djokovic are through into quarter-finals. Looks like the rest of the seeded players are all doing good as well.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 01, 2018, 06:22:09 AM

Talking about injuries, Rafael Nadal suffered another one today and he was forced to withdraw at the Paris Master, he cited a abdominal injury so I guess Djokovic could make a good run and end up as the number 1 player at the end of the year. Raonic also withdraw from his match against Federer because of elbow injury so Roger is going through the next round.

This is sad news for Nadal fans I remember a while back we had discussed the possibilities of him coming back too soon and being injured, and now our fears have turned out to be true. Djokovic has an excellent chance to end the year being No.1 cause when Nadals back he'll take it back from him, it'll be interesting if Roger and Djokovic come across in Semis or Finals as we'll know Roger is planning his retirement, at this stage I don't think he'll continue playing for long now.

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Quote from: vennali on November 01, 2018, 04:23:33 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 01, 2018, 06:22:09 AM

Talking about injuries, Rafael Nadal suffered another one today and he was forced to withdraw at the Paris Master, he cited a abdominal injury so I guess Djokovic could make a good run and end up as the number 1 player at the end of the year. Raonic also withdraw from his match against Federer because of elbow injury so Roger is going through the next round.

Djokovic is already world no.1 now and the season is almost come to a close. Djokovic should stay world no. 1 comfortably at the year end. Im still waiting for these young players to show up big, but as of now.. its still Djoker, Fedex, Nadal era. Cant wait for Murray to be proper fit too.

Well now that Nadal has pulled out of the Paris Masters, Djokovic will now become world number #1 after the tournament is over as the rankings don't update during a tournament. I had this feeling that Nadal shouldn't of played but at least it wasn't his knee but again we don't know for sure as they say its abdominal injury. I actually think he wasn't right to go to start with but I guess he wanted to give it a go and see if he can get through.

The match between Coric and Thiem was a great match to watch with the match going to three sets. Nishikori had a great win over Anderson and like I mentioned in my previous post, he has a chance to break into the top 10 if he does well in this tournament, so far he is looking good to do so and maybe finish the year off in the top 10.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 01, 2018, 06:22:09 AM

Talking about injuries, Rafael Nadal suffered another one today and he was forced to withdraw at the Paris Master, he cited a abdominal injury so I guess Djokovic could make a good run and end up as the number 1 player at the end of the year. Raonic also withdraw from his match against Federer because of elbow injury so Roger is going through the next round.

Djokovic is already world no.1 now and the season is almost come to a close. Djokovic should stay world no. 1 comfortably at the year end. Im still waiting for these young players to show up big, but as of now.. its still Djoker, Fedex, Nadal era. Cant wait for Murray to be proper fit too.

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Talking about injuries, Rafael Nadal suffered another one today and he was forced to withdraw at the Paris Master, he cited a abdominal injury so I guess Djokovic could make a good run and end up as the number 1 player at the end of the year. Raonic also withdraw from his match against Federer because of elbow injury so Roger is going through the next round.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 30, 2018, 09:44:18 PM

As expected, Djokovic won his match against 7-5, 6-1 win against Joao Sousa. But damn, my boy Stefanos Tsitsipas was upset Dzumhur 6-3, 6-3, even Shapovalov was also out in the first round courtesy of Gasquet. What a match between Raonic vs Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, battle of big servers 6-7 (4), 7-6 (5), 7-6 (5), it just the breaks of the game, I must say but both has equal chances of winning, its just Tsonga wasn't able to capitailized. Its Raonic vs Federer next.

Well as expected almost all the top seeded players have made it through to the next round except for Stefanos Tsitsipas. I was looking forward to seeing Federer and Raonic playing but it was called off along with the Fognini match and the Nadal match was cancelled so we have to wait for these two matches to play out now.

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As expected, Djokovic won his match against 7-5, 6-1 win against Joao Sousa. But damn, my boy Stefanos Tsitsipas was upset Dzumhur 6-3, 6-3, even Shapovalov was also out in the first round courtesy of Gasquet. What a match between Raonic vs Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, battle of big servers 6-7 (4), 7-6 (5), 7-6 (5), it just the breaks of the game, I must say but both has equal chances of winning, its just Tsonga wasn't able to capitailized. Its Raonic vs Federer next.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 29, 2018, 11:32:44 PM

@vella - Federer wanted to spoil the competition between Nadal and Djokovic so he wanted to join the party. Grin

. But I have said, he has a tough draw, Federer's possible opponents in his quest for the Paris Masters.

Round 1: Bye
Round 2: Raonic and/or Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
Round 3: Fognini
QF : Kevin Anderson / Nishikori
SF. : Djokovic
Finals. : Nadal

As you can see its not that easy so I hope that he still enough wind and give us a good tennis match. As far as Nadal's knee though, in my opinion, its not totally healed and I do hope that he would not aggravate it, so let's see how it pans out.

Actually you could be right my friend as Federer might want to spoil the party and maybe even win the Paris Masters. He does have a tough draw so it will be interesting to see how well he does. Well we know that he can't move up the rankings no matter what happens and he will finish ranked 3rd in the world this year. There could be some changes in the top 10 with the big one being the number #1 ranking but there is also a chance for other spots to change like Alexander Zverev having a chance to move into the number 4 spot and overtake Potro and Nishikori has a big chance to break into the top 10. So this tournament is vital for a few of the players but the biggest being Nadal and Djokovic.

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@vella - Federer wanted to spoil the competition between Nadal and Djokovic so he wanted to join the party. Grin

. But I have said, he has a tough draw, Federer's possible opponents in his quest for the Paris Masters.

Round 1: Bye
Round 2: Raonic and/or Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
Round 3: Fognini
QF : Kevin Anderson / Nishikori
SF. : Djokovic
Finals. : Nadal

As you can see its not that easy so I hope that he still enough wind and give us a good tennis match. As far as Nadal's knee though, in my opinion, its not totally healed and I do hope that he would not aggravate it, so let's see how it pans out.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 28, 2018, 11:23:43 PM

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Quote from: vella85 on October 27, 2018, 05:59:00 PM

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I'm not really surprised by those upsets these days the landscape of tennis has changed gone are the days when senior pros used to intimate youngsters, these days it's the opposite which I feel is good for the sport. Roger Fedder has sealed his 99th cup win and I feel he'll call it quits post the 100 one, I feel we're going to see another era coming to an end at 37 I don't see him lasting long now.

The top 3 players will be there in the Paris Masters but I think that Roger has a tough draw. Was quite surprised though to see him in this tournaments as he skips the last 2 years of Paris Masters. Maybe he felt good this time. Its only exciting to see Nadal and Djokovich compete to see which one will be on top at the end of the year. Upsets do really happen so I'm not surprised at all. Those young kids are not really intimated so its either they performed very well and doesn't care about the crowd, or they mentally break down in the middle of the set and lose everything.

Yeah its interesting to see Federer compete at this up coming tournament as I would of thought that he would give it a miss like he has been doing. I guess he is doing it as like you said he feels his body is up to it. I'm interested to see how well Nadal goes with this knee injury he has to see if it has healed but I highly doubt it is 100% ready but like we know with Nadal he is a fighter and doesn't want to give up and lose his number #1 ranking. For me this is the main focus on this tournament to see these two players battle it out for the number #1 ranking.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 28, 2018, 10:27:09 PM

Quote from: vella85 on October 27, 2018, 05:59:00 PM

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I'm not really surprised by those upsets these days the landscape of tennis has changed gone are the days when senior pros used to intimate youngsters, these days it's the opposite which I feel is good for the sport. Roger Fedder has sealed his 99th cup win and I feel he'll call it quits post the 100 one, I feel we're going to see another era coming to an end at 37 I don't see him lasting long now.

The top 3 players will be there in the Paris Masters but I think that Roger has a tough draw. Was quite surprised though to see him in this tournaments as he skips the last 2 years of Paris Masters. Maybe he felt good this time. Its only exciting to see Nadal and Djokovich compete to see which one will be on top at the end of the year. Upsets do really happen so I'm not surprised at all. Those young kids are not really intimated so its either they performed very well and doesn't care about the crowd, or they mentally break down in the middle of the set and lose everything.

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Quote from: vella85 on October 27, 2018, 05:59:00 PM

The Qualifiers for the Paris Masters have started where we have already seen some upsets with Andreas Seppi losing in 3 sets against the American Denis Kudla and also Sam Querrey losing in 3 sets to Nicolas Mahut on the first day of the tournament. Matthew Ebden is the number 1 seed so it will be interesting to see if he can make it through as most of the top seeds have lost already, well the ones in the top 10.

I'm not really surprised by those upsets these days the landscape of tennis has changed gone are the days when senior pros used to intimate youngsters, these days it's the opposite which I feel is good for the sport. Roger Fedder has sealed his 99th cup win and I feel he'll call it quits post the 100 one, I feel we're going to see another era coming to an end at 37 I don't see him lasting long now.

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The Qualifiers for the Paris Masters have started where we have already seen some upsets with Andreas Seppi losing in 3 sets against the American Denis Kudla and also Sam Querrey losing in 3 sets to Nicolas Mahut on the first day of the tournament. Matthew Ebden is the number 1 seed so it will be interesting to see if he can make it through as most of the top seeds have lost already, well the ones in the top 10.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 23, 2018, 05:27:18 AM

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 18, 2018, 07:06:04 PM

@vella85 - True. That's why I said that his knees should be completely healed before he starts to compete again. He is a competitor though and sometimes they really make a bad situation just because of the stakes at hand. Well, Murray case proved that eventhough our mind wanted to play and compete but our body says otherwise, sooner or later it will give up so Nadal needs to take that into account as well.

Yes I agree my friend, as we know with Nadal he has that never give up attitude and always wants to compete against the best and be the best but he must really consider his long term future now that he is getting older and like I said being number #1 at the end of the season is nothing compared to playing and doing his knee again which could see him miss half of next year or even worse end his career. Lets see what he decides to do.

Yes, "health should come first", not just in tennis but in other sport discipline as well. Those guys really reached the pinnacle of their careers, both him and Roger Federer has set the bar high and as much as competitive nature is inside of them, its better to take care of your health because after their tennis career is over, we don't want to hear reports that their mobility is somewhat affected because they didn't listen to their body during the height of their tennis careers.

I agree, health is the most important thing when it comes to getting older and playing a sport. I have seen the affects it can have on players from other sports who don't take care of their bodies and health, they then have to live with that for the rest of their lives so if Nadal's knee isn't 100% right he must take time for it to heal and be 100% ready before playing again. The knee is very important and if it goes again it could be career ending, I have also seen some bad knee injuries in many sports that have ended players careers and we don't want to see it end Nadal's career.

On some other news Federer has come out and said that he has been suffering from a hand injury during the European summer but seems to be okay now.

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Quote from: vella85 on October 19, 2018, 04:56:22 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 18, 2018, 07:06:04 PM

@vella85 - True. That's why I said that his knees should be completely healed before he starts to compete again. He is a competitor though and sometimes they really make a bad situation just because of the stakes at hand. Well, Murray case proved that eventhough our mind wanted to play and compete but our body says otherwise, sooner or later it will give up so Nadal needs to take that into account as well.

Yes I agree my friend, as we know with Nadal he has that never give up attitude and always wants to compete against the best and be the best but he must really consider his long term future now that he is getting older and like I said being number #1 at the end of the season is nothing compared to playing and doing his knee again which could see him miss half of next year or even worse end his career. Lets see what he decides to do.

Yes, "health should come first", not just in tennis but in other sport discipline as well. Those guys really reached the pinnacle of their careers, both him and Roger Federer has set the bar high and as much as competitive nature is inside of them, its better to take care of your health because after their tennis career is over, we don't want to hear reports that their mobility is somewhat affected because they didn't listen to their body during the height of their tennis careers.

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