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Quote from: Kemarit on November 15, 2018, 05:37:00 AM

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Very true my friend, we shall see next year how well Nadal has recovered from this injury.

There is a world indoor tournament going on right now in London with Djokovic and Anderson dominating so far both winning both of their matches while Federer is 1 win and 1 loss. Federer needs to beat Anderson in his next match if he has a chance to make it through and Thiem will need to beat Nishikori so its going to be interesting to see what happens. Djokovic plays Cilic, if Djokovic wins he is through if not it opens up the dorr for other other players in his group.

Right. But it make things complicated for Federer though because of different scenarios. If Federer won against Anderson and Nishikori beats Thiem, its possible that he won't advance as well and it all depend on who wins and how many set and games. And then there could be another scenario that if Federer by chance lose to Anderson in three sets but he can also advance if then Thiem bet Ken Nishikori in two sets.

Well look what happened lol Federer beat Anderson in straight sets which now puts Federer on equal points and equal set wins/loss 4:2 each. Thiem also helped by beating Nishikori in straight sets. So from my understand of how this set up works, Anderson and Federer both make it through to the finals. We now just have to wait on one more match as we already know that Djokovic is through. The question is which other player will join Djokovic in the finals out of this group? Will it be Cilic who faces Djokovic or will it be Zverev who faces Isner.

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Quote from: vella85 on November 14, 2018, 06:16:01 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 13, 2018, 01:05:09 AM

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Very true my friend, we shall see next year how well Nadal has recovered from this injury.

There is a world indoor tournament going on right now in London with Djokovic and Anderson dominating so far both winning both of their matches while Federer is 1 win and 1 loss. Federer needs to beat Anderson in his next match if he has a chance to make it through and Thiem will need to beat Nishikori so its going to be interesting to see what happens. Djokovic plays Cilic, if Djokovic wins he is through if not it opens up the dorr for other other players in his group.

Right. But it make things complicated for Federer though because of different scenarios. If Federer won against Anderson and Nishikori beats Thiem, its possible that he won't advance as well and it all depend on who wins and how many set and games. And then there could be another scenario that if Federer by chance lose to Anderson in three sets but he can also advance if then Thiem bet Ken Nishikori in two sets.

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Quote from: vella85 on November 14, 2018, 06:16:01 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 13, 2018, 01:05:09 AM

@vella85 - At this point, its hard to say if the operation is successful or not unless we see Nadal perform next year. So it would be obvious, if we notice some big chances, like him being a tad slow or having problem with his deadly left cross forehand an of course his movement. He is not getting younger as you pointed out so this is also another intangibles we need to look at. I have a friend who is not a sports fan but unfortunately, he had a freak accident that concerning his knee but he didn't seek medical attention and then after a couple of months it pained him so much that the doctors needs to operate and removed some water or lump in his knees. So imagine the toll it has taken on Nadal for all the tennis games he had played, must be extremely painful not just physically but mentally as well.

Very true my friend, we shall see next year how well Nadal has recovered from this injury.

There is a world indoor tournament going on right now in London with Djokovic and Anderson dominating so far both winning both of their matches while Federer is 1 win and 1 loss. Federer needs to beat Anderson in his next match if he has a chance to make it through and Thiem will need to beat Nishikori so its going to be interesting to see what happens. Djokovic plays Cilic, if Djokovic wins he is through if not it opens up the dorr for other other players in his group.

I hope Nadal is back soon and hopefully has an injury free year when he's back, tennis is not much fun without his duels with Federer and Djokovic. It'll be interesting to see how Federer bounces back, he desperately needs a win and he's not have the best time there. I feel Thiem will be able to beat Nishikori, I rate Thiem to be a better and a stronger player. Djokovic is expected to easily beat Clic, he's my favourite to win the tournament.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 13, 2018, 01:05:09 AM

@vella85 - At this point, its hard to say if the operation is successful or not unless we see Nadal perform next year. So it would be obvious, if we notice some big chances, like him being a tad slow or having problem with his deadly left cross forehand an of course his movement. He is not getting younger as you pointed out so this is also another intangibles we need to look at. I have a friend who is not a sports fan but unfortunately, he had a freak accident that concerning his knee but he didn't seek medical attention and then after a couple of months it pained him so much that the doctors needs to operate and removed some water or lump in his knees. So imagine the toll it has taken on Nadal for all the tennis games he had played, must be extremely painful not just physically but mentally as well.

Very true my friend, we shall see next year how well Nadal has recovered from this injury.

There is a world indoor tournament going on right now in London with Djokovic and Anderson dominating so far both winning both of their matches while Federer is 1 win and 1 loss. Federer needs to beat Anderson in his next match if he has a chance to make it through and Thiem will need to beat Nishikori so its going to be interesting to see what happens. Djokovic plays Cilic, if Djokovic wins he is through if not it opens up the dorr for other other players in his group.

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@vella85 - At this point, its hard to say if the operation is successful or not unless we see Nadal perform next year. So it would be obvious, if we notice some big chances, like him being a tad slow or having problem with his deadly left cross forehand an of course his movement. He is not getting younger as you pointed out so this is also another intangibles we need to look at. I have a friend who is not a sports fan but unfortunately, he had a freak accident that concerning his knee but he didn't seek medical attention and then after a couple of months it pained him so much that the doctors needs to operate and removed some water or lump in his knees. So imagine the toll it has taken on Nadal for all the tennis games he had played, must be extremely painful not just physically but mentally as well.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 10, 2018, 03:14:28 AM

It's sad to read all these news about Nadals injury, he's having lots of injuries issues lately, but yet he manages to come on top always I appreciate his never quit approach. I'm hoping he comes stronger, and fitter tennis just doesn't seem entertaining without him. I can't wait to see him come back against Djokovic and Fedderer those are some epic battles and makes you fall in love with tennis.

I guess Nadal's body is really taking a lot of beatings specially about his knee. We all know that this body part is one of the most abused for sports player so maybe it really gives out, but the timing is so bad. I'm sure that if the knee heals very quick, he will go back to his tennis and compete with those guys. Yes, seems strange not to see him specially in big tennis competition so its going to be a pity and tennis fans will miss him play. So lets just hope that the knee operation and rehabilitation is successful so at least we can watch him for the next big event in 2019.

This is what we were talking about a month or so ago, Nadal should of just taken the rest of the year off to get his body fit and healthy for the 2019 season but he didn't as I think he wanted to keep his number #1 ranking but now he has caused more harm to himself and could take longer to get back to peak fitness. I'm sure he will get back to peak fitness but the question is, will he be as good as before after his last injury? As he gets older, it must be taking a toll on his knee now but lets hope he comes back fit and be able to compete at the top level. We ain't sure on what Federer will do either, will he go onto play next season or retire at the end of this year? This is why I have always said that Djokovic has a very good chance to overtake Federer with most Grand Slam titles as he is fast catching Nadal. 2019 is going to be an interesting year for Men's tennis.

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All this talk about injury always makes me shudder inside. Knee injury especially. I'm not and never was in any alternate universe a professional sports player but even my own injuries took their toll, not just physically but mentally. Never had the confidence to play badminton (yes, laugh) after recurring shoulder injury, while my foot/ankle injury just took away all my confidence to sprint or launch into tackles in football. I know they got the best docs on them, so hopefully Nadal gets well, he's almost my age too so feel for him!

I got 2 players I really like playing right now. The Croatians had a good year in tennis so I booked Cilic for a win, good value at over 2/1, even though it's really very evenly matched. Leading first set 3-1 now. Bet won't settle until much later tonight though... parlayed against my fav Serbian (haha) Djokovic to win with -3.5 games handicap. Easy on paper but Isner's not a Rank 10 for nothing.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 10, 2018, 12:20:17 AM

In a news related to Rafael Nadal's injury, it was reported that a exhibition match in Saudi with Novak Djovovic is cancelled because of his abdominal injury. Well his knee operations will take weeks to heal at least so there's no way for him to really attend this exhibition match anyways.

Saudi exhibition off due to Nadal injury, says Djokovic

At least it's not that serious of an injury Nadal has acquired. Anyway, having their exhibition match canelled is still a loss for their brand and a loss of chance for the fans to see see them play personally.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 10, 2018, 03:14:28 AM

It's sad to read all these news about Nadals injury, he's having lots of injuries issues lately, but yet he manages to come on top always I appreciate his never quit approach. I'm hoping he comes stronger, and fitter tennis just doesn't seem entertaining without him. I can't wait to see him come back against Djokovic and Fedderer those are some epic battles and makes you fall in love with tennis.

I guess Nadal's body is really taking a lot of beatings specially about his knee. We all know that this body part is one of the most abused for sports player so maybe it really gives out, but the timing is so bad. I'm sure that if the knee heals very quick, he will go back to his tennis and compete with those guys. Yes, seems strange not to see him specially in big tennis competition so its going to be a pity and tennis fans will miss him play. So lets just hope that the knee operation and rehabilitation is successful so at least we can watch him for the next big event in 2019.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 10, 2018, 03:14:28 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 10, 2018, 12:20:17 AM

In a news related to Rafael Nadal's injury, it was reported that a exhibition match in Saudi with Novak Djovovic is cancelled because of his abdominal injury. Well his knee operations will take weeks to heal at least so there's no way for him to really attend this exhibition match anyways.

Saudi exhibition off due to Nadal injury, says Djokovic

It's sad to read all these news about Nadals injury, he's having lots of injuries issues lately, but yet he manages to come on top always I appreciate his never quit approach. I'm hoping he comes stronger, and fitter tennis just doesn't seem entertaining without him. I can't wait to see him come back against Djokovic and Fedderer those are some epic battles and makes you fall in love with tennis.

Those guys are not getting any younger and knee injury and one of the worst injury a player can have. Obviously with the advance of science it can be operated and fix, but I doubt it will go back to its normal way. Its time for the upcoming tennis star to take the crown for those seasoned and ageing top players like Nadal and Federer.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 10, 2018, 12:20:17 AM

In a news related to Rafael Nadal's injury, it was reported that a exhibition match in Saudi with Novak Djovovic is cancelled because of his abdominal injury. Well his knee operations will take weeks to heal at least so there's no way for him to really attend this exhibition match anyways.

Saudi exhibition off due to Nadal injury, says Djokovic

It's sad to read all these news about Nadals injury, he's having lots of injuries issues lately, but yet he manages to come on top always I appreciate his never quit approach. I'm hoping he comes stronger, and fitter tennis just doesn't seem entertaining without him. I can't wait to see him come back against Djokovic and Fedderer those are some epic battles and makes you fall in love with tennis.

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In a news related to Rafael Nadal's injury, it was reported that a exhibition match in Saudi with Novak Djovovic is cancelled because of his abdominal injury. Well his knee operations will take weeks to heal at least so there's no way for him to really attend this exhibition match anyways.

Saudi exhibition off due to Nadal injury, says Djokovic

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It would be also interesting to see how Andy Murray's is recuperating with his hip injury as well. We all know that he wasn't fully recovered when he started his comeback in June and we see how it went with his campaign. So I do hope that he is doing good as of the moment, and entirely forgot 2018 and moved and look different in 2019 so that we can witnessed another great tennis year of the top 4. I think 2019 will still be dominated by this guys specially the big tournaments, so its fun to see those 4 trying to upstage each other. Of course I'm not discounting the young players, but when they usually broke down specially at big stage.

Yes I would be interested to also know how Murray is going as I haven't seen or heard anything about his recovery, maybe his staying low key for now until he feels like he is getting better. Murray has been the forgotten player this year as he has been out for most of the season so it would be nice to see him return in 2019 bigger and better then ever. I'm thinking the same with the big name players dominating the Grand Slams next year but I really do hope that the young talent can start to shine in the Grand Slam tournaments.

He is a former number 1 player, so I doubt that we can consider him as forgotten player this 2018. But the thing is, its hard not to compare Djokovic recovery to him, that's why he really need to show something and something big next year otherwise yeah, he might be forgotten. As for the young talent, well they proved their point this year, but its really hard to see them competing against this veterans specially in Grand Slam. But we can't discount and maybe, just maybe we can see someone just above the rest of the young talents to emerge like Khachanov, Shapovalov, Zverev, Kyrgios, Thiem, Edmund and Tsitsipas.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 07, 2018, 03:26:51 AM

It would be also interesting to see how Andy Murray's is recuperating with his hip injury as well. We all know that he wasn't fully recovered when he started his comeback in June and we see how it went with his campaign. So I do hope that he is doing good as of the moment, and entirely forgot 2018 and moved and look different in 2019 so that we can witnessed another great tennis year of the top 4. I think 2019 will still be dominated by this guys specially the big tournaments, so its fun to see those 4 trying to upstage each other. Of course I'm not discounting the young players, but when they usually broke down specially at big stage.

Yes I would be interested to also know how Murray is going as I haven't seen or heard anything about his recovery, maybe his staying low key for now until he feels like he is getting better. Murray has been the forgotten player this year as he has been out for most of the season so it would be nice to see him return in 2019 bigger and better then ever. I'm thinking the same with the big name players dominating the Grand Slams next year but I really do hope that the young talent can start to shine in the Grand Slam tournaments.

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It would be also interesting to see how Andy Murray's is recuperating with his hip injury as well. We all know that he wasn't fully recovered when he started his comeback in June and we see how it went with his campaign. So I do hope that he is doing good as of the moment, and entirely forgot 2018 and moved and look different in 2019 so that we can witnessed another great tennis year of the top 4. I think 2019 will still be dominated by this guys specially the big tournaments, so its fun to see those 4 trying to upstage each other. Of course I'm not discounting the young players, but when they usually broke down specially at big stage.

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Yeah it could of been that Djokovic was feeling ill the last couple of days but he looked fine to me when he was playing against Federer so I'm just not sure about his statement on this. Maybe its true and like you said the Federer match took its toll on his body and that is why he was sluggish in his match with Khachanov.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1040752/Novak-Djokovic-Karen-Khachanov-Paris-Masters-final. Well Djokovic doesn't want to talk about it because he doesn't want to take everything from Khachanov. I mean, people will see it as an excuse but Khachanov really play that good.

Quote from: vella85 on November 05, 2018, 05:00:54 PM

On another note, I wonder what Nadal will do now that he is ranked number #2, to be honest there is no point him playing on this year and now should rest up ready for 2019. What do you guys think?

Its better for him to take the rest. No need to forced his body, remember he has 2 injury already, the knee and now the abdominal strain. Well the knee injury is already career threatening and the only way to heal it is to take a lot of rest so that it won't get aggregated. So its better for him to take the remaining months off and come fresh in 2019.

Also its best that he now rests as there isn't really much to play for now, yes there is a chance that Nadal can regain the number #1 ranking but with the form Djokovic is in, I can't see that happening. Nadal would need to win at least 2 more tournaments with Djokovic not making the finals of either of the tournaments so the smart decision would be to rest up ready for 2019 and the first major of the year, the Australian Open.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 05, 2018, 04:11:33 AM

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Yeah it could of been that Djokovic was feeling ill the last couple of days but he looked fine to me when he was playing against Federer so I'm just not sure about his statement on this. Maybe its true and like you said the Federer match took its toll on his body and that is why he was sluggish in his match with Khachanov.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1040752/Novak-Djokovic-Karen-Khachanov-Paris-Masters-final. Well Djokovic doesn't want to talk about it because he doesn't want to take everything from Khachanov. I mean, people will see it as an excuse but Khachanov really play that good.

Quote from: vella85 on November 05, 2018, 05:00:54 PM

On another note, I wonder what Nadal will do now that he is ranked number #2, to be honest there is no point him playing on this year and now should rest up ready for 2019. What do you guys think?

Its better for him to take the rest. No need to forced his body, remember he has 2 injury already, the knee and now the abdominal strain. Well the knee injury is already career threatening and the only way to heal it is to take a lot of rest so that it won't get aggregated. So its better for him to take the remaining months off and come fresh in 2019.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 05, 2018, 04:11:33 AM

Indeed, this is a big upset, Khachanov we can't take anything from him. Although I see reports that Novak says that he has been ill for the past couple of days and maybe Yes, the match against Federer really push his body to the limits that's why he feel sluggish against his match to Karen Khachanov. But we all know that Djokovic will remain the number 1 player so he can take 'consolation' about that. Grin

Yeah it could of been that Djokovic was feeling ill the last couple of days but he looked fine to me when he was playing against Federer so I'm just not sure about his statement on this. Maybe its true and like you said the Federer match took its toll on his body and that is why he was sluggish in his match with Khachanov.

On another note, I wonder what Nadal will do now that he is ranked number #2, to be honest there is no point him playing on this year and now should rest up ready for 2019. What do you guys think?

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Indeed, this is a big upset, Khachanov we can't take anything from him. Although I see reports that Novak says that he has been ill for the past couple of days and maybe Yes, the match against Federer really push his body to the limits that's why he feel sluggish against his match to Karen Khachanov. But we all know that Djokovic will remain the number 1 player so he can take 'consolation' about that. Grin

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WOW! A major upset in the Paris Masters final with Khachanov upstaging Djokovic winning in straight sets. I really think the Federer match took its toll on Djokovic as that was an epic match going for 3 hours and both players said that it was one of their best matches all year. But lets not take anything away from Khachanov who has been in fine form this whole tournament beating some of the best players in tennis and now beating the number #1 ranked player in the world, well Djokovic is still ranked number #2 but after the rankings are updated he will be number #1. So a big congrats to Khachanov on the huge win!

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