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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 12, 2019, 01:12:45 PM

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It would have being better if India would have asked SA to bat again and get them all out and they could have won the match by innings and few runs rather than now decided to bat and then give SA to bat last and win by some margin of runs if it happens as per the plan.

From the past performance we know that it is impossible for South Africa to chase a score of 326 runs in the fourth innings and the pitch starts turning too but then if their batsman plays some incredible innings as there is two more days left, you never know what will happen and the risk is higher and hence India will go for the safe route, to score an impossible score to chase and put them on the defense and win the match.

Any team would take the follow on if they are in this position but remember this is Indian team who have a practice of not taking the follow-on. They may repeat the same practice tomorrow. The exact decision will be known later but South Africa will be hoping that they do not have to bat again tomorrow.

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Quote from: onrise on October 12, 2019, 12:46:13 PM

It would have being better if India would have asked SA to bat again and get them all out and they could have won the match by innings and few runs rather than now decided to bat and then give SA to bat last and win by some margin of runs if it happens as per the plan.

From the past performance we know that it is impossible for South Africa to chase a score of 326 runs in the fourth innings and the pitch starts turning too but then if their batsman plays some incredible innings as there is two more days left, you never know what will happen and the risk is higher and hence India will go for the safe route, to score an impossible score to chase and put them on the defense and win the match.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 12, 2019, 10:15:25 AM

Quote from: erikalui on October 12, 2019, 07:25:43 AM

Shocking! I thought they would max get 220-230 runs with two wickets left but a partnership of 109 is tremendous when 8 batsmen could manage just 168. Maharaj played very well. His family is from India I guess but may be he's brought up in SA.

Keshav Maharaj and Vernon Philander frustrated the Indian bowlers and i am sure all the Indian fans were also frustrated as India picked the rest of the wickets easily and when it came to the ninth wicket they were not able to do anything, they batted really well and full credits for their performance.
Keshav Maharaj might be of Indian heritage but he is born in South Africa.

Quote from: erikalui on October 12, 2019, 07:25:43 AM

India now just need to put up 150-200 runs and the game is over for SA.

South Africa still trail by 326 runs and India still need to put some quick runs on the board and attack South Africa and see how long they can bat in the last two days.

It would have being better if India would have asked SA to bat again and get them all out and they could have won the match by innings and few runs rather than now decided to bat and then give SA to bat last and win by some margin of runs if it happens as per the plan.

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Quote from: erikalui on October 12, 2019, 07:25:43 AM

Shocking! I thought they would max get 220-230 runs with two wickets left but a partnership of 109 is tremendous when 8 batsmen could manage just 168. Maharaj played very well. His family is from India I guess but may be he's brought up in SA.

Keshav Maharaj and Vernon Philander frustrated the Indian bowlers and i am sure all the Indian fans were also frustrated as India picked the rest of the wickets easily and when it came to the ninth wicket they were not able to do anything, they batted really well and full credits for their performance.
Keshav Maharaj might be of Indian heritage but he is born in South Africa.

Quote from: erikalui on October 12, 2019, 07:25:43 AM

India now just need to put up 150-200 runs and the game is over for SA.

South Africa still trail by 326 runs and India still need to put some quick runs on the board and attack South Africa and see how long they can bat in the last two days.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 12, 2019, 06:10:24 AM

The max that South Africa can hope for at this stage is a draw which is possible only if they bat exceptionally well and I don't think they will since most of them are out of form and a single good innings by a tail-ender won't change that.

They are not getting a good start and they were not playing that good even when Srilanka visit them as they lost both the test, looks like they are finding it hard to find talented players in their country and If the batsman could learn from the tail end players and spend some time in the crease rather than trying to play the shots all the time.

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Quote from: akhjob on October 12, 2019, 05:34:57 AM

SA have crossed 250 Grin

Maharaj and Philander are relentless, they have already batted out nearly 45+ overs and have scored over 109 runs. Most of the time, India fail to pick up the tail-enders. Looking at the current situation, I am expecting Maharaj batting through the day and to score a ton Tongue

Shocking! I thought they would max get 220-230 runs with two wickets left but a partnership of 109 is tremendous when 8 batsmen could manage just 168. Maharaj played very well. His family is from India I guess but may be he's brought up in SA.

India now just need to put up 150-200 runs and the game is over for SA.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 12, 2019, 06:10:24 AM

India might score close to 200 runs and declare and South Africa might have to chase a mammoth score which is why this match is almost over. Expecting another fine innings from Mayank.

If India is able to score a quick 100 runs then it will be more than enough to put South Africa again to bat and it is simply because the Indian bowlers need some rest before they bowl again, Maharaj and Philander batted really well while all the specialized batsman should be ashamed as these bowlers put on a 100 run partnership while the rest of the batsman was struggling to put up a partnership.

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Quote from: onrise on October 12, 2019, 05:59:36 AM

I tik definately the MAharaj innings could boost up the SA dressing room and they would come back strongly in the test match. But for now they are all out at 275 runs and India lead by 326 runs in first innings.

The max that South Africa can hope for at this stage is a draw which is possible only if they bat exceptionally well and I don't think they will since most of them are out of form and a single good innings by a tail-ender won't change that.

India might score close to 200 runs and declare and South Africa might have to chase a mammoth score which is why this match is almost over. Expecting another fine innings from Mayank.

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Finally, SA was allout for 275 and its end of Day 3. Maharaj and Philander did a great job taking out 2 sessions of the game. They are now trial by 326 runs. The better option would be to enforce the follow-on. But its Kohli's decision to take and we have to wait for tomorrow to know whether India is going to enforce a follow-on or not.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 12, 2019, 05:44:28 AM

Quote from: akhjob on October 12, 2019, 05:34:57 AM

SA have crossed 250 Grin

Maharaj and Philander are relentless, they have already batted out nearly 45+ overs and have scored over 109 runs. Most of the time, India fail to pick up the tail-enders. Looking at the current situation, I am expecting Maharaj batting through the day and to score a ton Tongue

Damn. These guys could be setting a new record right here. Who in the world would have expected tail-enders to forge such a big partnership? Maharaj is playing brilliantly while Philander is supporting him without losing his wicket.

Looks like India might have to play again after all. Disappointing turn-out. Also, the Pune stadium authorities need to improve their services since the audience don't have proper shade due to the scorching heat and are not allowed to take their umbrellas inside.

Edit: Maharaj just got out!

This is excatly what is required from SA openeres or middle order batsman to stay on the crease and make some runs. I tik definately the MAharaj innings could boost up the SA dressing room and they would come back strongly in the test match. But for now they are all out at 275 runs and India lead by 326 runs in first innings.

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Quote from: akhjob on October 12, 2019, 05:34:57 AM

SA have crossed 250 Grin

Maharaj and Philander are relentless, they have already batted out nearly 45+ overs and have scored over 109 runs. Most of the time, India fail to pick up the tail-enders. Looking at the current situation, I am expecting Maharaj batting through the day and to score a ton Tongue

Damn. These guys could be setting a new record right here. Who in the world would have expected tail-enders to forge such a big partnership? Maharaj is playing brilliantly while Philander is supporting him without losing his wicket.

Looks like India might have to play again after all. Disappointing turn-out. Also, the Pune stadium authorities need to improve their services since the audience don't have proper shade due to the scorching heat and are not allowed to take their umbrellas inside.

Edit: Maharaj just got out!

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Quote from: erikalui on October 12, 2019, 03:45:23 AM

Again SA will lose before reaching 250. Virat will now possibly choose to bat and put up 400-450 runs as he always does but glad that this match will have a result as the first innings is already over in 2.5 days. A follow-on would be better but Virat never chooses that.

India is at the top of the table with 160 points and till now they did not have a single loss. *happy dance Cheesy

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SA have crossed 250 Grin

Maharaj and Philander are relentless, they have already batted out nearly 45+ overs and have scored over 109 runs. Most of the time, India fail to pick up the tail-enders. Looking at the current situation, I am expecting Maharaj batting through the day and to score a ton Tongue

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Yeah, we won't have one. Wink

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 11, 2019, 11:49:04 PM

* Bangladesh : I am losing patience when it comes to Bengali team.

Same here, Bangladesh rarely play a match which fit the criteria of a test cricket team. I think a test cricket must be encouraged in domestic level than any other format, because it's the real cricket, no matter who likes what.

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Again SA will lose before reaching 250. Virat will now possibly choose to bat and put up 400-450 runs as he always does but glad that this match will have a result as the first innings is already over in 2.5 days. A follow-on would be better but Virat never chooses that.

India is at the top of the table with 160 points and till now they did not have a single loss. *happy dance Cheesy

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 12, 2019, 03:28:25 AM

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Right now South Africa is trailing by 418. If India could add another 200 runs, then they can set a target of 600 plus for South Africa. And the bowlers will be having two days to bowl them out.

In my opinion, India probably might not need to bat since all of their bowlers(Seam and spinners) are performing brilliantly and it is only a matter of time for South Africa to probably lose this one by an innings.

Follow on sounds good deal atm because Ishant hardly bowled one spell due to 2 warning - Stepping on danger zone-. But Kohli likes to play mind game with opposition team and everything depends on the bowlers if they are okay with bowling again then its go go for Kohli otherwise India going to bat again.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on October 12, 2019, 01:25:23 AM

As long as de Kock was there, South Africa had a chance of setting up a respectable total and even a distant chance of avoiding the follow on. But since he is gone, I think that now a follow on, and later an innings defeat looks like a surety for South Africa. Senuran Muthusamy batted well during the first test. Let's see how good he is in the second test.

Even if de Kock was still playing, he would never be able to set a decent total without support from 2 other players. Jadeja already removed Muthusamy and this is not exactly surprising since he is not exactly a batsman to begin with.

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Right now South Africa is trailing by 418. If India could add another 200 runs, then they can set a target of 600 plus for South Africa. And the bowlers will be having two days to bowl them out.

In my opinion, India probably might not need to bat since all of their bowlers(Seam and spinners) are performing brilliantly and it is only a matter of time for South Africa to probably lose this one by an innings.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 12, 2019, 02:46:23 AM

^^ I am expecting follow on as well, Fast bowlers are still fresh and spinners can bowl long spell so no excuse for Kohli this time.

A total of 220 overs remain (two and half days) in this test. India just needs two more wickets. If they enforce the follow on, then the match will be over by end of the day today, or by tomorrow morning. Star Sports is not going to be happy, as they will lose valuable ad revenue (just joking). Right now South Africa is trailing by 418. If India could add another 200 runs, then they can set a target of 600 plus for South Africa. And the bowlers will be having two days to bowl them out.

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^^ I am expecting follow on as well, Fast bowlers are still fresh and spinners can bowl long spell so no excuse for Kohli this time.

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There is very simple solution to tackle this problem - Where home team dominates visiting team- Take away toss benefit , let visiting team decides if they want to bat or ball first. Then we are going to see very competitive games.

That is impossible to have a fair game, a good captain must have the luck to win toss as winning the toss will make a huge difference in the outcome of a match, if it is a green track no team will bat first but if it is a turning track all the team will prefer to bat first because it will be difficult to bat in the final two days. West Indies was dominating world cricket for a period of time and then Australia was dominating and now India is dominating in Test cricket.

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I get carried away when i said "simple solution" Grin

This discussion is long-controversial and it has its pro-cons just like any another solution, Will try to write more on this topic if it ever comes in core discussion or when i got some free time.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 12, 2019, 01:55:13 AM

I am not sure whether the Indians are going to enforce the follow on or not. They may decide to bat for another 50-60 overs, in order to enhance the batting stats of their players. They can do that, as a lot of time is remaining in this match.

They will give South Africa the follow-on obviously. It will be easy road for India for victory. They still trail by good amount of runs. By giving them follow it will be easy for India to chase down the runs for victory.

Impressive bowling from speedsters- Yadav and Shami. Now spinners are piling up the rest. India totally dominating the game. Apart from De Kock and Du Plessis there is no batsman in their team. Now I think India will win the rest of the matches in the series as well if there is any (haven't checked the schedule).

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Quote from: eaLiTy on October 12, 2019, 01:34:26 AM

That is impossible to have a fair game, a good captain must have the luck to win toss as winning the toss will make a huge difference in the outcome of a match, if it is a green track no team will bat first but if it is a turning track all the team will prefer to bat first because it will be difficult to bat in the final two days. West Indies was dominating world cricket for a period of time and then Australia was dominating and now India is dominating in Test cricket.

South Africa is struggling and it looks like an innings defeat and not even rain can help them.

Forget about the rain. I really doubt whether even the god can help them. And trust me, there are 61 overs remaining for today's play. I would say that there is a very real chance that the match would get over by today itself. And just now the South Africans have lost their 7th wicket, as Senuran Muthusamy has been trapped leg before the wicket by Ravindra Jadeja. The score stands at 139/7, and I think that South Africa will be bowled out even before they could get past 150. I am not sure whether the Indians are going to enforce the follow on or not. They may decide to bat for another 50-60 overs, in order to enhance the batting stats of their players. They can do that, as a lot of time is remaining in this match.

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