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Completely agree, after decades Indian team reached at this level where each and every player contributing, more importantly winning the games for India. The last thing i want is experiment with the core test team. We can try something with Opening slot and spin department but according to pitch condition only.

As of now Indian team need to keep some players with the Test squad according to situation. Prithvi Shaw as back up opener, Hanuma Vihari for middle order or in some extent Shubham Gill, Pant as WC batsman and Kuldeep as spinner.

The Australians have a rotational policy, where they regularly rest their top players once in a while. This prevents injuries due to workload, especially for the pace bowlers. Indian players had a lot of issues with injuries recently. Jasprit Bumrah and Suresh Raina are perfect examples. Even younger players are getting affected and one example is that of Kamlesh Nagarkoti (who has been out of action for almost two years now). A rotational policy could have prevented many of these injuries.

Like i mentioned couple of time in our back and fourth interaction that i really don't know much about this rotation policy. I don't even know if they use this method in Test Format or in the shorter format of game.

Having said that i am certain about one thing, no team want to touch their Core Team in the Test format. Even Aussie didn't change much in recent time except Smith/warner due to Ban. Every management can fit 1-2 new face for every series in the squad but getting into the playing XI is another ball game.

As far as i remember Jaspit Bumrah used to skip every T-20 series for quite some time. Suresh Raina got injured during IPL and got kicked out from Indian squad because of his form. he was average Test player anyway so why are we even discussing his name?

Nagarkoti didn't played much game before his injury, only World Cup then couple of domestic games. he was 17-18 year old during that time, its unfortunate that he got injured but i think its not because of Work load. shit happens sometime but if you say NCA didn't take care of him after the injury then i can agree with you.
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Will probably be joining the pool soon though I think there is still a good amount of time left since the NZ vs ENG test begins on 21st. I think I might go with England on this one due to their recent victories.
England does not have a good Test team as all the players are having good strike rate and they are yet to prove that they can stay in the crease for a long time and New Zealand is a much stronger team at home and hence i am confused whom to support and wage a bet in this match.

@Royse777 there is no multiple bets in this match in the betting pool.
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The Day Night match between India and Bangladesh is also going to be a one-sided match irrespective of the toss.
True, but I am excited to see how it will play out with the pink ball. I guess tickets would be damn cheap for a night event and this could probably pull in a big crowd due to the pink ball and D/N aspect.

However, the match between NZ vs ENG is going to be exciting. I'm still confused about which team to pick for the mutual bet. All are welcome to join Smiley
Will probably be joining the pool soon though I think there is still a good amount of time left since the NZ vs ENG test begins on 21st. I think I might go with England on this one due to their recent victories.
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However, the match between NZ vs ENG is going to be exciting. I'm still confused about which team to pick for the mutual bet. All are welcome to join Smiley
I already gone with ENG in the pool.
By the way we have Same Match MultiBet as well for this match. Check my signature for the link.

Talking about India vs Bangladesh, I think this will be a one sided match so any pool will be boring. I am expecting NZ vs ENG series will be a very exciting one.

Edit: Some pink ball FAQ's : https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28115122/different-pink-ball-test-cricket

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^ The Day Night match between India and Bangladesh is also going to be a one-sided match irrespective of the toss.

However, the match between NZ vs ENG is going to be exciting. I'm still confused about which team to pick for the mutual bet. All are welcome to join Smiley
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Just three more days to go for the first D/N test match in India and looks like the Indian fans are quite excited about it (despite the very one-sided outcome from the first test). This is going to be new for both the teams and Bangladesh will be hoping to take advantage out of it. And once again, toss is going to be extremely important for the match.
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Completely agree, after decades Indian team reached at this level where each and every player contributing, more importantly winning the games for India. The last thing i want is experiment with the core test team. We can try something with Opening slot and spin department but according to pitch condition only.

As of now Indian team need to keep some players with the Test squad according to situation. Prithvi Shaw as back up opener, Hanuma Vihari for middle order or in some extent Shubham Gill, Pant as WC batsman and Kuldeep as spinner.

The Australians have a rotational policy, where they regularly rest their top players once in a while. This prevents injuries due to workload, especially for the pace bowlers. Indian players had a lot of issues with injuries recently. Jasprit Bumrah and Suresh Raina are perfect examples. Even younger players are getting affected and one example is that of Kamlesh Nagarkoti (who has been out of action for almost two years now). A rotational policy could have prevented many of these injuries.

I quite agree with this. I think there are signs of Indian management doing this since they are kinda resting out major players in T-20's and giving opportunities to youngsters but still I would like to see it implement in other formats as well- ODI and Test. Test also there are mild signs - like Ashwin, Yadav and I. Sharma coming back in recent Bangladesh series.

So I feel like slowly they are trying these things out.
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Completely agree, after decades Indian team reached at this level where each and every player contributing, more importantly winning the games for India. The last thing i want is experiment with the core test team. We can try something with Opening slot and spin department but according to pitch condition only.

As of now Indian team need to keep some players with the Test squad according to situation. Prithvi Shaw as back up opener, Hanuma Vihari for middle order or in some extent Shubham Gill, Pant as WC batsman and Kuldeep as spinner.

The Australians have a rotational policy, where they regularly rest their top players once in a while. This prevents injuries due to workload, especially for the pace bowlers. Indian players had a lot of issues with injuries recently. Jasprit Bumrah and Suresh Raina are perfect examples. Even younger players are getting affected and one example is that of Kamlesh Nagarkoti (who has been out of action for almost two years now). A rotational policy could have prevented many of these injuries.
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As of now Indian team need to keep some players with the Test squad according to situation. Prithvi Shaw as back up opener, Hanuma Vihari for middle order or in some extent Shubham Gill, Pant as WC batsman and Kuldeep as spinner.
India can experiment and give opportunities for players especially openers and middle order players to have a good bench strength but that does not mean you should remove an inform player, if there is a slot when some player get injured they can try those players and if they are playing consistently then they will remain in the team, to get in the team now a days is really hard and the challenge to secure the spot is helping everyone to perform to their best.
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Exactly. Some of the posters feel that the younger players need to be given more chances while I feel that this is not required at present since the current squad is perfect as it is and their home wins record continues to rise thanks to this squad.

Why fix what is not broken to begin with? The younger players are being given plenty of chances in ODI and T-20 formats and that is good enough in my opinion.

Completely agree, after decades Indian team reached at this level where each and every player contributing, more importantly winning the games for India. The last thing i want is experiment with the core test team. We can try something with Opening slot and spin department but according to pitch condition only.

As of now Indian team need to keep some players with the Test squad according to situation. Prithvi Shaw as back up opener, Hanuma Vihari for middle order or in some extent Shubham Gill, Pant as WC batsman and Kuldeep as spinner.
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The bowlers are fit and India have a bigger bench strength than anything other team and Umesh Yadav, Ishant Sharma and Ashwin plays only Test matches and when it comes to batsman, Rahane and Pujara only plays the Test format and Agarwal is a new player in top form and Rohit Sharma just got a spot in the Test team as an opener and who should be replaced in your opinion, the only open slots left are Kohli and the wicket keeper slot and Saha only plays the Test format, so how do you bring a balance and who should be left out to give youngsters a chance.
Exactly. Some of the posters feel that the younger players need to be given more chances while I feel that this is not required at present since the current squad is perfect as it is and their home wins record continues to rise thanks to this squad.

Why fix what is not broken to begin with? The younger players are being given plenty of chances in ODI and T-20 formats and that is good enough in my opinion.
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I know that current Indian squad is the best but when will you give your emerging players a chance to play in big matches ?  Bangladesh is a weak team and India already won the first match, they should give younger players a chance in the 2nd test. I am not saying specifically to give Chahar a chance but they should introduce some new faces in the next test match.
The bowlers are fit and India have a bigger bench strength than anything other team and Umesh Yadav, Ishant Sharma and Ashwin plays only Test matches and when it comes to batsman, Rahane and Pujara only plays the Test format and Agarwal is a new player in top form and Rohit Sharma just got a spot in the Test team as an opener and who should be replaced in your opinion, the only open slots left are Kohli and the wicket keeper slot and Saha only plays the Test format, so how do you bring a balance and who should be left out to give youngsters a chance.
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For the next match, Deepak chahar should be given a chance in test too. He is in superb form.
Its not that simple. Performing well in the ODI format in no way means that your performance will stay the same in the test format. This is the reason why separate squads are chosen for each format for every team.

The current Indian test squad is perfect and it will get even better once Bumrah returns in the future which is why I disagree with you here. Chahar needs to gain more experience and take wickets consistently in ODI and T-20 formats.

I know that current Indian squad is the best but when will you give your emerging players a chance to play in big matches ?  Bangladesh is a weak team and India already won the first match, they should give younger players a chance in the 2nd test. I am not saying specifically to give Chahar a chance but they should introduce some new faces in the next test match.
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For the next match, Deepak chahar should be given a chance in test too. He is in superb form.

Not just Deepak Chahar, the other fringe players also needs to be given a chance. I don't understand the logic in players such as Kohli and Shami being included in tests against Bangladesh. India doesn't need them to win against Bangladesh. Why can't the selectors give them some rest and use the opportunity to give some of the younger players a chance to pay for India?

This will be my preferred playing XI for the next test:

Mayank Agarwal
Cheteshwar Pujara
Ravindra Jadeja
Shubman Gill
Hanuma Vihari
Rishabh Pant
Sanju Samson
Umesh Yadav
Kuldeep Yadav
Deepak Chahar
Ishant Sharma
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That said, how many teams are out there, who could give good competition to the current Indian side? South Africa is currently ranked 4th in the ICC Test Rankings (above Australia) and we saw how they fared against India. There is something seriously wrong with the sport, if a 4th ranked team can't compete against the first ranked side in a meaningful way.

If India had toured South Africa, then we could have seen a good fight between the teams. It's a known fact that with the current team, India is almost impossible to be defeated in their home ground.
Even if they're away from home surely the game will be good with more chances of India winning the match, if the same form continues. In recent matches it is possible to see the game spirit and taking responsibility if something has happened unexpected. Particularly by the time of batting if there is a fall in wicket it won't continue to happen consecutively. Early such thing happens and serves to be the reason for losing the matches.
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The current Indian test squad is perfect and it will get even better once Bumrah returns in the future which is why I disagree with you here. Chahar needs to gain more experience and take wickets consistently in ODI and T-20 formats.
The Indian team is filled with great bowlers Mohammed Shami, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav and when Jasprit Bumrah returns Yadav or Ishant Sharma will loose his spot and i would like to see all the pace bowlers playing in fast bowling pitches without any spinner as i have not seen an Indian team with just fast bowlers but i know it is impossible to have a team without a spinner but it would be fun.
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For the next match, Deepak chahar should be given a chance in test too. He is in superb form.
Its not that simple. Performing well in the ODI format in no way means that your performance will stay the same in the test format. This is the reason why separate squads are chosen for each format for every team.

The current Indian test squad is perfect and it will get even better once Bumrah returns in the future which is why I disagree with you here. Chahar needs to gain more experience and take wickets consistently in ODI and T-20 formats.
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For the next match, Deepak chahar should be given a chance in test too. He is in superb form.
To be a bowler and play for India is a challenge now a days as there is a lot of challenges and great talents and this is the best set of talented players they had in the history of Indian cricket, world class fast bowlers and spinners and then too you have to sit in the bench or wait for other players to get injured to play in the team and if you are not performing then you will be replaced and it is a big challenge. I would like to see Deepak chahar play in the team but who should be replaced is the biggest question.
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Agarwal was extraordinary today and his total was almost 1.5 times the total of 10 Ban players. Virat's loss for a duck did not even matter as they already managed to put up enough runs. Glad they declared and made Ban out for 213. Looks like 6 is their favorite figure. Bad omen!
The reason Virat Kohli declared the innings without giving Ravindra Jadeja the opportunity to score a century is because he got out for a duck and it was obvious that India will win the match easily but they could have given some good batting practice for the rest of the players as well, the next match is day night test and it will be hard for spinners because of due and it will be a new experience for Indian cricket fans.

For the next match, Deepak chahar should be given a chance in test too. He is in superb form.

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