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legendary
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I don't think it's related to gambling or commercial, India has a history to avoid follow- on numerous times be it home or away test matches. The only logical argument in this test match, Virat can give is net practice for Indian batsmen and resting Seamers.

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Out of 8, Virat didn't ask for follow on 5 times, well, I think he always wants to bat and have some scored besides his name  Cheesy so that he can get enough chance to chase S. Tendulkar.
I was expecting a follow on yesterday when WI was 79/7.

I don't think if he cares about records much and surpassing Sachin's record is just a matter of time for him. I didn't see the press conference. So not aware what Virat said about not going with follow on, but I am sure the reason would be more or less same " enough rest for bowlers" we shouldn't disregard that India is playing with only 4 bowlers and in the test match every team wants to eliminate every possible scenario of losing a game first.  

2 full days left in the game, the odds are against Windies but imagine for a sec, If they win the Test match. This win can transform windies cricket for good. Chances are dim, but Again Cricket can hit you on guts sometimes.

I think now days most captains are scared to enforce the follow-on after what happened to Australia when they enforced the follow-on against India and then India dominated the Australian bowlers and ended up winning the match. Since then there hasn't been many follow-on enforced by teams as they never know if the team following on bats well. We have seen in the past that teams chasing anything near 500 runs is almost impossible to win the match which is also why most captains decide to bat again.

Fairy tale!! and it changed the Indian cricket tbh. Winning Test against the Mighty Australian team and ending their winning streak of 16 games.
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I think now days most captains are scared to enforce the follow-on after what happened to Australia when they enforced the follow-on against India and then India dominated the Australian bowlers and ended up winning the match. Since then there hasn't been many follow-on enforced by teams as they never know if the team following on bats well. We have seen in the past that teams chasing anything near 500 runs is almost impossible to win the match which is also why most captains decide to bat again.

That match between AUS and IND was an exceptional case, just like the last test match between AUS vs ENG, almost nobody thought that ENG would win that match yet they managed to win. Any team with right mind should enforce follow-on, unless there are external factors of concern like weather, pitch deterioration etc. Enforcing a follow-on will put immense pressure on the opponent, whose batting morale will be low considering that they didn't score much in the 1st innings.  But if you give them a chance to bowl, the morale might increase if they were able to restrict them to a meagre score. And defeating a team with lesser morale is easier than a team boosting in confidence.
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In cricket is can be terribly wrong to underestimate your opponents. Indians probably wanted to enhance their batting stats and that may be the reason why they didn't enforced the follow on. But in test cricket, a win is the ultimate aim. You can't lower your chances for a win, just because you want to enhance your individual stats.

And whenever a team gets arrogant and overestimates itself, it suffers setback. At one point of time, India was struggling at 57/4, before half centuries from Ajinkya Rahane and Hanuma Vihari rescued them. Still they ended up with a mediocre score and it took almost 55 overs to score that many runs. had they enforced the follow on, then the match would have been over by now.
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I think now days most captains are scared to enforce the follow-on after what happened to Australia when they enforced the follow-on against India and then India dominated the Australian bowlers and ended up winning the match. Since then there hasn't been many follow-on enforced by teams as they never know if the team following on bats well. We have seen in the past that teams chasing anything near 500 runs is almost impossible to win the match which is also why most captains decide to bat again.
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And then you wake up from the dream and see India won by 300+ Runs.  Smiley 

There is no Ben strokes in WI team who can do this miracle.

They don't have Stokes, Smith to score 100+ runs on their own nor Bumrah who can take wickets. They fail both in bowling and batting. Even with Pollard and Gayle they wouldn't manage but would atleast not perform so badly.

Rain can save them now but it should rain for atleast 1.5 days then it would end in a draw. :-P
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I pray for a batting disaster :-P


India all out under 79 runs
Target for WI is 378 runs to win. WI lost their 8th wicket to manage 278 runs but Roach played a phenomenal innings and WI won the match by only one wicket.

How about that? :-D

Yeah, I would definitely love that Cheesy I will pray for a draw atleast. Stupid decisions like this have to be taught a lesson.
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I don't think it's related to gambling or commercial, India has a history to avoid follow- on numerous times be it home or away test matches. The only logical argument in this test match, Virat can give is net practice for Indian batsmen and resting Seamers.

  • 275 vs NZ Ahmedabad 1999  S. Tendulkar
  • 231 vs Aus SCG 2003/04       Sourav Ganguly
  • 319 vs Eng Oval 2007           Rahul Dravid
  • 258 vs NZ Indore 2016         Virat
  • 309 vs SL Galle 2017            Virat
  • 299 vs Ban Hyderabad 2017  Virat
  • 292 vs Aus MCG 2018/19      Virat
  • 299 vs WI Kingston 2019 *    Virat
Out of 8, Virat didn't ask for follow on 5 times, well, I think he always wants to bat and have some scored besides his name  Cheesy so that he can get enough chance to chase S. Tendulkar.
I was expecting a follow on yesterday when WI was 79/7.
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And then you wake up from the dream and see India won by 300+ Runs.  Smiley 
There is no Ben strokes in WI team who can do this miracle.

ROFL...

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There is no Ben Stokes in the West Indies team, but they had players such as Russel and Pollard. But unfortunately they are more interested participating the T20 leagues around the world than representing the national side. So for now, West Indies can humbly take whatever thrashing they receive from India and use the TV revenues from this series to build grass-roots cricket.
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But as I can see, things didn't played out as planned. India struggling at 9/1 after 6 overs. Mayank Agarwal trapped in front of the wickets by Kemar Roach for just 4 runs.
I pray for a batting disaster :-P


India all out under 79 runs
Target for WI is 378 runs to win. WI lost their 8th wicket to manage 278 runs but Roach played a phenomenal innings and WI won the match by only one wicket.

How about that? :-D

And then you wake up from the dream and see India won by 300+ Runs.  Smiley 

There is no Ben strokes in WI team who can do this miracle.
legendary
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I don't think it's related to gambling or commercial, India has a history to avoid follow- on numerous times be it home or away test matches. The only logical argument in this test match, Virat can give is net practice for Indian batsmen and resting Seamers.

  • 275 vs NZ Ahmedabad 1999  S. Tendulkar
  • 231 vs Aus SCG 2003/04       Sourav Ganguly
  • 319 vs Eng Oval 2007           Rahul Dravid
  • 258 vs NZ Indore 2016         Virat
  • 309 vs SL Galle 2017            Virat
  • 299 vs Ban Hyderabad 2017  Virat
  • 292 vs Aus MCG 2018/19      Virat
  • 299 vs WI Kingston 2019 *    Virat
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But as I can see, things didn't played out as planned. India struggling at 9/1 after 6 overs. Mayank Agarwal trapped in front of the wickets by Kemar Roach for just 4 runs.
I pray for a batting disaster :-P


India all out under 79 runs
Target for WI is 378 runs to win. WI lost their 8th wicket to manage 278 runs but Roach played a phenomenal innings and WI won the match by only one wicket.

How about that? :-D
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India could wrap up WI again very easily and could have an inning in hand. :-(
Okay, what could be his explanation here?

Well... let me guess. One possible explanation here:

You do not take the follow-on and a lot of gamblers lose their money.  Wink

Another one here:

So Kohli is using this opportunity to enhance his batting stats, for himself as well as for the other team members.
It is going to be good for the TV broadcasters as well.

But as I can see, things didn't played out as planned. India struggling at 9/1 after 6 overs. Mayank Agarwal trapped in front of the wickets by Kemar Roach for just 4 runs. Roach, with that 5 kg gold chain around his neck is literally frying the Indian batsmen. Rahul almost dragged one back to his stumps.
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Why not follow on? Kohli chose to again bat but hope he doesn't bat till tomorrow and ends it today only. It was seriously not needed as they already had runs in hand. 100 more runs should be enough to declare now.
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What the...
Come on Kohli! Really!!
India could wrap up WI again very easily and could have an inning in hand. :-(

Okay, what could be his explanation here?

Explanation is very simple. Now it is assured that India will win this test match. It doesn't matter whether they win the match with an innings to spare or not. So Kohli is using this opportunity to enhance his batting stats, for himself as well as for the other team members. Let the boys have some fun. They worked really hard in the humid West Indian weather. It is going to be good for the TV broadcasters as well.
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Come of Kohli! Follow on!

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India could wrap up WI again very easily and could have an inning in hand. :-(

Okay, what could be his explanation here?

This is surprise decision  becuase India could have won by innings and some runs and now since they have started batting they will just win by some runs . Though this match is just now formality and India will win this series by 2-0 .
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Come of Kohli! Follow on!

Unpredictable Kohli  Grin
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Come on Kohli! Really!!
India could wrap up WI again very easily and could have an inning in hand. :-(

Okay, what could be his explanation here?

Cricket is a commercial game and what you see is not what is actually going on.  Let me explain here.

Many gamblers and bookies must have put a lot of money that India will enforce the follow on. Also there is no reason for India to bat again when they can easily finish the match in next two sessions.

You do not take the follow-on and a lot of gamblers lose their money.  Wink
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Come of Kohli! Follow on!

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What the...
Come on Kohli! Really!!
India could wrap up WI again very easily and could have an inning in hand. :-(

Okay, what could be his explanation here?
legendary
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Come of Kohli! Follow on!
I was also thinking the same but hell, once again India is coming to bat. It would probably be easily won with a margin of innings, if not, still India could get the match won. What the fuck is blowing in Kohli's mind?
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Come of Kohli! Follow on!

Unpredictable Kohli  Grin
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One yorker or well directive bouncer can finish roach's inning, and on another hand, Jahmar Hamilton is in the mood of setting camp Cheesy 3 runs with 56 balls, his defense is good though.  
No enough, he is gone :-P
One more wicket to take and WI are surely going to trail by more than 250 runs. Despite the batting practice and all these things you are talking about, I think Kohli will ask WI to follow on. Winning by an innings is much more prestigious than winning by other margin and India have a good chance for it in this Test.

Edit: WI booked by 117 runs LOL.

Come of Kohli! Follow on!
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