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England kept India out for a full day, that didn't happen much in this series. Except for the 1st session, everything went England's way and Root saved the day for Poms, he was simply brilliant but for India's POV, tail wagging in the end was disturbing.

Umpiring was atrocious throughout the day and they even messed up plumb lbw, even 3rd umpire looked in a bit of a hurry but you can't blame on-field umpiring much if you burn all your reviews.

Ashwin is having a quiet series, which is painful to see and one of the reasons Indians will feel the heat in this match.

Thanks to Root England are back in the game, I won't be surprised if continues in the same way tomorrow. What I like the most is Ollie Robinson gave him the support that was lacking in the earlier series by the English bowlers. I saw for the first time Jaiswal bowling in an international game and he did quite well than the regular bowlers. DRS was gone because Sir Jadeja as usual forced Rohit to take the last one and it proved that it was unnecessary. Under pressure, Rohit is a bad captain as he always makes mistakes with fielding and choice of bowlers

Mohammed Shami has been ruled out of IPL 2024 due to his ankle injury. I came across a post on Reddit about it not sure if it is true.

Tbh Umpiring was shit as well, which at times kinda forced Rohit's hand but yeah Jaddu is an exciting customer when it comes to DRS, similar to Siraj.

The match might look in balance but the Indian team could go into depression if England managed to cross 350 or touch the 400 mark. Indian batters are in form and one could expect good response from them but we shouldn't forget it's a very inexperienced batting lineup.

Yeah, Shami is ruled out for good.

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England team has come this far only because of Joe Root's patient and intelligent batting performance.When England lost five wickets for 112 we thought maybe England would be all out by 250 but from there Joe Root took England a long way. He is still unbeaten on 106 runs, maybe tomorrow is going to be better for him. England will look to bat more patiently and intelligently in their second innings tomorrow as they look to take their team score closer to 400 runs.If the England team is able to score 400 runs then they will be in a very ripe place.

England 5 wickets down for just 112 runs and then there is 113 runs partnership between Root and Foakes that brought England back in the game. At stumps, Root was standing firmly with Ollie Robinson and they both together have added 57 runs to England total. If England can somehow get to 350 then they will have a psychological advantage. Indian batting is also in good form and they can chase low total very easily that's why England need to have big total on the board.

India vs England 4th test match is very important for England but when England team started batting first Indian bowlers are attacking from the beginning due to which England team batsmen could not bat that well. However, with the excellent batting of Root and Foakes, the England team managed to collect 302 runs in the first innings. If Root and Robinson can bat well in the second innings, they can give a big lead to India. However, the Indian team batted and bowled very well on their ground, so it is expected that the fourth Test match will go in favor of India.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 23, 2024, 12:11:02 PM

I thought that England will be all out within the first two sessions as they had lost their first 5 wickets before the first session. But the middle order batsmen have outplayed there in the second and third sessions, and the game is in balanced situation now. We can't tell how much the target could be by seeing the batting of the first innings of one team. Judging from the condition of the pitch, Anderson may create pressure on Indian batters.

Actually it was Mark Wood who troubled the Indian batsman last time. Wood relies on raw pace, and that sort of bowing is more suitable than swing-seam bowling in the dead tracks of India. James Anderson on the other hand got only one wicket in the 3rd test and conceded a total of 139 runs in both the innings. And the only wicket that he got was that of tail-ender Kuldeep Yadav. However this time, the England selectors replaced Mark Wood with Ollie Robinson. That means that they will have two bowlers who are dependent on swing/seam bowling.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on February 23, 2024, 09:15:26 AM

England make a good comback after some early bad performances and defeat, now England has scored a decent runs with contribution of thier quality batter and some lower middle order player and I am sure tomorrow they will make it better like around 400 which will be in my mind a tough target for India to chase it down ~snip~

I thought that England will be all out within the first two sessions as they had lost their first 5 wickets before the first session. But the middle order batsmen have outplayed there in the second and third sessions, and the game is in balanced situation now. We can't tell how much the target could be by seeing the batting of the first innings of one team. Judging from the condition of the pitch, Anderson may create pressure on Indian batters.

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Quote from: AirtelBuzz on February 23, 2024, 08:22:51 AM

England team has come this far only because of Joe Root's patient and intelligent batting performance.When England lost five wickets for 112 we thought maybe England would be all out by 250 but from there Joe Root took England a long way. He is still unbeaten on 106 runs, maybe tomorrow is going to be better for him. England will look to bat more patiently and intelligently in their second innings tomorrow as they look to take their team score closer to 400 runs.If the England team is able to score 400 runs then they will be in a very ripe place.

England 5 wickets down for just 112 runs and then there is 113 runs partnership between Root and Foakes that brought England back in the game. At stumps, Root was standing firmly with Ollie Robinson and they both together have added 57 runs to England total. If England can somehow get to 350 then they will have a psychological advantage. Indian batting is also in good form and they can chase low total very easily that's why England need to have big total on the board.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on February 23, 2024, 09:53:40 AM

England team had a fall of wickets in the beginning, due to which England team so far scored 302 runs for 7 wickets. A Test game is essentially a wicket-keeping performance for a long period of time, in which seven wickets fell on the first day. The current batsmen should not be relied upon. If these two batsmen can perform for a long time as strong batsmen, Root and Robinson can definitely give India team a big night's target. Indian team is very strong in Test matches as proved in past matches, in which case England team must perform for a long time keeping the wicket under control.

I wouldn't say England is on top just yet. We need to wait and see the final total and how India responds. yeah a decent day for England, but they need to keep it up over the next few days. It's definitely an improvement from the last test. Joe Root is playing his natural game, scoring fluently and at a decent rate. His partner Robinson is also playing his natural game, which is important for setting a big target. It's hard to say what a decent total is. We can't be certain until both sides have batted.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on February 23, 2024, 09:53:40 AM

England team had a fall of wickets in the beginning, due to which England team so far scored 302 runs for 7 wickets. A Test game is essentially a wicket-keeping performance for a long period of time, in which seven wickets fell on the first day. The current batsmen should not be relied upon. If these two batsmen can perform for a long time as strong batsmen, Root and Robinson can definitely give India team a big night's target. Indian team is very strong in Test matches as proved in past matches, in which case England team must perform for a long time keeping the wicket under control.

300+ in a day is not bad. Joe Root is still on crease and with a night to rest, he'd be back with new energy. Joe Root is going to get aggressive in the next morning.
England would try to get a quick 150+ in the morning and let India bat. They might hold a bit if joe root closes to a double century. The average runs has kept increasing on every of the test and 450 is an ideal point the English team would aim for. They would also want to take some wickets before resting for the 2nd day.
With two lost Test matches, England would be hoping for a win to keep the race on.

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England team had a fall of wickets in the beginning, due to which England team so far scored 302 runs for 7 wickets. A Test game is essentially a wicket-keeping performance for a long period of time, in which seven wickets fell on the first day. The current batsmen should not be relied upon. If these two batsmen can perform for a long time as strong batsmen, Root and Robinson can definitely give India team a big night's target. Indian team is very strong in Test matches as proved in past matches, in which case England team must perform for a long time keeping the wicket under control.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on February 23, 2024, 08:08:48 AM

England vs India 4th Test match in the first innings, England team batted and collected 302 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. England's great batsman Joe Root's batting performance in today's match was really interesting and he managed to score a wonderful century. Joe Root is unbeaten on day 1 with 106 runs, surely he will try to do better on day 2. If he can add more runs for the team then surely England can score big. But India's bowling line-up is currently very good and strong, Akash Deep bowled brilliantly and Mohammad Siraj's brilliant bowling performance was beautiful. If England can bat well going into the second day, it will surely be a tough fight for India and they will have a chance to win the fourth Test match.

England make a good comback after some early bad performances and defeat, now England has scored a decent runs with contribution of thier quality batter and some lower middle order player and I am sure tomorrow they will make it better like around 400 which will be in my mind a tough target for India to chase it down, anyway India were always delivery decent results at thier home ground so it will be a good opportunity to get grip on series or in other case their opponent will level the series by 2-2 and then last match will be like pressure mounting situation for them because they will already lose two consecutive match which will have a bad impact on thier performance so India should try hard to divert results in thier favour in order to tackle such trouble situation

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England vs India 4th Test match in the first innings, England team batted and collected 302 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. England's great batsman Joe Root's batting performance in today's match was really interesting and he managed to score a wonderful century. Joe Root is unbeaten on day 1 with 106 runs, surely he will try to do better on day 2. If he can add more runs for the team then surely England can score big. But India's bowling line-up is currently very good and strong, Akash Deep bowled brilliantly and Mohammad Siraj's brilliant bowling performance was beautiful. If England can bat well going into the second day, it will surely be a tough fight for India and they will have a chance to win the fourth Test match.

From the beginning of the fourth test match of India vs England, India bowled aggressively. Due to their aggressive bowling, it seemed at one time that the England team might not be able to score 300 runs, but due to the responsible batting of Joe Root, the England team managed to collect 302 runs. If Joe Root in the second innings, If they can bat well, England team will add some more runs, then the game will be competitive. However, considering that India became more hostile on their own ground and they performed better, it seems that maybe India has more chances to win the fourth Test match. Now let's see how well the England team can bat in the second innings.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2024, 07:39:48 AM

England are putting up a decent fight at the moment courtesy of Root who clearly stopped forcing himself to use the Bazball approach which turned out to be the right decision because Bazball is overrated.

I would not call it overrated, it worked for Duckett in one of prior matches. But, to some like root, it just doesn't suit, better stick with what works for them.

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Yes, Siraj was expensive early on but you look on overall economy, no? Inning haven't finished yet and his ER is already coming on par with other bowlers. Also, both wickets he took were important (Foakes and Hartley), although I don't think those were peachy deliveries — the ball Hartley got out on looked beauty at first but in slow motion replay, it rather looked liked Hartley didn't judge ball proper.

The wicket of Foakes was important. I agree. But what about Hartley? We are talking about a lower order batsman. Anyway, England has reasons to be happy. Crossing the 300 mark itself is a big achievement, and they still have 3 wickets remaining. If they can get past 350, then the Indian dressing room will be quiet. And don't forget the fact that England won the first test. So far in this series, the team batting first have won everytime. Things will be a bit more clear by end of the day's play tomorrow.

Hartley can bat, and with Root on other side, they could musher up big partnership and be a headache as Foakes-Root partnership. Whether England can cross 350 will largely depend on how long current pair remains on crease, as one them gets out, it'll be game over for England as neither Anderson or Bashir can bat.

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Quote from: WatChe on February 23, 2024, 08:11:16 AM

Both Root and Robinson are well set on the crease with unbeaten 57 runs partnership. England main target will be to get 350 runs tomorrow and if they are able to get there then they will be in good position. The good thing coming out from India is that there young players are performing. Today Akash Deep makes debut from India side and in his first innings he got 3 wickets, if he can get one or two more wickets then he might become Indian main pacer for upcoming matches.

England team has come this far only because of Joe Root's patient and intelligent batting performance.When England lost five wickets for 112 we thought maybe England would be all out by 250 but from there Joe Root took England a long way. He is still unbeaten on 106 runs, maybe tomorrow is going to be better for him. England will look to bat more patiently and intelligently in their second innings tomorrow as they look to take their team score closer to 400 runs.If the England team is able to score 400 runs then they will be in a very ripe place.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 23, 2024, 08:00:06 AM

The wicket of Foakes was important. I agree. But what about Hartley? We are talking about a lower order batsman. Anyway, England has reasons to be happy. Crossing the 300 mark itself is a big achievement, and they still have 3 wickets remaining. If they can get past 350, then the Indian dressing room will be quiet. And don't forget the fact that England won the first test. So far in this series, the team batting first have won everytime. Things will be a bit more clear by end of the day's play tomorrow.

Both Root and Robinson are well set on the crease with unbeaten 57 runs partnership. England main target will be to get 350 runs tomorrow and if they are able to get there then they will be in good position. The good thing coming out from India is that there young players are performing. Today Akash Deep makes debut from India side and in his first innings he got 3 wickets, if he can get one or two more wickets then he might become Indian main pacer for upcoming matches.

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England vs India 4th Test match in the first innings, England team batted and collected 302 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. England's great batsman Joe Root's batting performance in today's match was really interesting and he managed to score a wonderful century. Joe Root is unbeaten on day 1 with 106 runs, surely he will try to do better on day 2. If he can add more runs for the team then surely England can score big. But India's bowling line-up is currently very good and strong, Akash Deep bowled brilliantly and Mohammad Siraj's brilliant bowling performance was beautiful. If England can bat well going into the second day, it will surely be a tough fight for India and they will have a chance to win the fourth Test match.

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Quote from: libert19 on February 23, 2024, 07:32:17 AM

Yes, Siraj was expensive early on but you look on overall economy, no? Inning haven't finished yet and his ER is already coming on par with other bowlers. Also, both wickets he took were important (Foakes and Hartley), although I don't think those were peachy deliveries — the ball Hartley got out on looked beauty at first but in slow motion replay, it rather looked liked Hartley didn't judge ball proper.

The wicket of Foakes was important. I agree. But what about Hartley? We are talking about a lower order batsman. Anyway, England has reasons to be happy. Crossing the 300 mark itself is a big achievement, and they still have 3 wickets remaining. If they can get past 350, then the Indian dressing room will be quiet. And don't forget the fact that England won the first test. So far in this series, the team batting first have won everytime. Things will be a bit more clear by end of the day's play tomorrow.

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England are putting up a decent fight at the moment courtesy of Root who clearly stopped forcing himself to use the Bazball approach which turned out to be the right decision because Bazball is overrated.

Akash was brilliant while the spinners didn't have a great day. The English innings would have probably concluded by now if Bumrah was still part of the lineup.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 23, 2024, 07:09:41 AM

Joe Root is still there and we can expect England to reach at least 350 in the first innings, if there are no miracles from the Indian bowlers. Personally I believe that the Indian selectors did a blunder here, by allowing two seamers in the playing XI. Also, if there need to be two seamers, then I would have rather gone for Akash Deep and Mukesh Kumar, rather than going for the useless Mohammed Siraj. Siraj picked up two wickets, but he was very expensive early on. And now Indians need to deal with the 8th wicket partnership between Joe Root and Ollie Robinson. They have already added 62 runs till now. These are very valuable contributions.

Yes, Siraj was expensive early on but you look on overall economy, no? Inning haven't finished yet and his ER is already coming on par with other bowlers. Also, both wickets he took were important (Foakes and Hartley), although I don't think those were peachy deliveries — the ball Hartley got out on looked beauty at first but in slow motion replay, it rather looked liked Hartley didn't judge ball proper.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 23, 2024, 06:12:02 AM

England kept India out for a full day, that didn't happen much in this series. Except for the 1st session, everything went England's way and Root saved the day for Poms, he was simply brilliant but for India's POV, tail wagging in the end was disturbing.

Umpiring was atrocious throughout the day and they even messed up plumb lbw, even 3rd umpire looked in a bit of a hurry but you can't blame on-field umpiring much if you burn all your reviews.

Ashwin is having a quiet series, which is painful to see and one of the reasons Indians will feel the heat in this match.

Thanks to Root England are back in the game, I won't be surprised if continues in the same way tomorrow. What I like the most is Ollie Robinson gave him the support that was lacking in the earlier series by the English bowlers. I saw for the first time Jaiswal bowling in an international game and he did quite well than the regular bowlers. DRS was gone because Sir Jadeja as usual forced Rohit to take the last one and it proved that it was unnecessary. Under pressure, Rohit is a bad captain as he always makes mistakes with fielding and choice of bowlers

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Quote from: jasonjm on February 23, 2024, 06:45:33 AM

On the first day of the 4th test between India and England, ENG scored 302/7 at the end of day one. ENG started positively, but debutant Akash Deep ended the party by picking up 2 wickets in one over. Root stabilized the inning with Bairstow, but the latter could not convert his start into a massive inning. Overall, today was a Root show all along with some cameos. Akash Deep picked up 3 wickets. Day 2's first session will be of utmost importance for England to score over 400 in the first innings. At the moment, India is ahead after day 1.

Joe Root is still there and we can expect England to reach at least 350 in the first innings, if there are no miracles from the Indian bowlers. Personally I believe that the Indian selectors did a blunder here, by allowing two seamers in the playing XI. Also, if there need to be two seamers, then I would have rather gone for Akash Deep and Mukesh Kumar, rather than going for the useless Mohammed Siraj. Siraj picked up two wickets, but he was very expensive early on. And now Indians need to deal with the 8th wicket partnership between Joe Root and Ollie Robinson. They have already added 62 runs till now. These are very valuable contributions.

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On the first day of the 4th test between India and England, ENG scored 302/7 at the end of day one. ENG started positively, but debutant Akash Deep ended the party by picking up 2 wickets in one over. Root stabilized the inning with Bairstow, but the latter could not convert his start into a massive inning. Overall, today was a Root show all along with some cameos. Akash Deep picked up 3 wickets. Day 2's first session will be of utmost importance for England to score over 400 in the first innings. At the moment, India is ahead after day 1.

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