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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 24, 2024, 11:41:04 AM

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He was a shit bowler and an expensive one, he reclaimed his position as a shit selector with his stupendous selection. Resting Bhumrah for what, IPL? This test series provides an opportunity to rethink why Bhumrah is so important for India. This test again speaks that Indian new comers are working piece of shit. Only exception were Jaiswal and Gill, Jurel is still batting and therefore I can't say anything about him.

Cricket is a big political game too especially in India but don't get deep into that cause it always has been like that and possible stay in that way.

I just want to mention about resting Bumrah which is the right decision irrespective of IPL, he already played 3 test matches and the gap between 3rd and 4th is less so he should have recovery time and probably return for the 5th match. Indian pace attack did pretty good job especially the debutant so the blame should be about the batting unit which is completely under performed including Rohit and only exception is Jaiswal.

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The second day's play of the fourth Test match between India vs England is over. At the end of the second day's play of the fourth Test match, India was all out for 353 runs in the first innings, in reply England team managed to score 219 runs for 7 wickets so far in the second innings. England are still 134 runs behind India's first innings. Since seven batsmen of the first row are out, it is believed that India will be able to score 30 to 50 runs against England. If England can score like 30 to 50 runs in the first innings then India will be ahead then the second innings will be easier for India. As this match is very important for both teams, England and India will definitely try to give maximum performance considering that important aspect. If England win this match, the fifth Test match will be the final match for both.

The match is going , England made in this inning 353 runs . England team player played well but the run in this inning is low . And India are playing they made 297 run with the lose of 7 wickets. D jurel and K yadav is now batting , D jurel made 30 run in 58 balls and if they continue their inning he So they can break England's first inning target . England bowling side S Bashir playing very well he took 4 wickets by giving 84 run in 32 overs . If they take more two wickets of India, they can leave India behind them .

If seven wickets had not fallen, there would have been a hope that England would have beaten India, but with 60 batsmen already out and the remaining three batsmen not being very good at batting, the chances of getting past India are slim. But if they can finish very close in the first innings then the second innings will surely be interesting. We almost see in Test matches England do well in the second innings and because of the good second innings they turn around in that match, hopefully they will do that against India. To survive in the series there is no alternative to this victory England must win but they can survive in the series.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on February 24, 2024, 09:33:22 AM

The second day's play of the fourth Test match between India vs England is over. At the end of the second day's play of the fourth Test match, India was all out for 353 runs in the first innings, in reply England team managed to score 219 runs for 7 wickets so far in the second innings. England are still 134 runs behind India's first innings. Since seven batsmen of the first row are out, it is believed that India will be able to score 30 to 50 runs against England. If England can score like 30 to 50 runs in the first innings then India will be ahead then the second innings will be easier for India. As this match is very important for both teams, England and India will definitely try to give maximum performance considering that important aspect. If England win this match, the fifth Test match will be the final match for both.

The match is going , England made in this inning 353 runs . England team player played well but the run in this inning is low . And India are playing they made 297 run with the lose of 7 wickets. D jurel and K yadav is now batting , D jurel made 30 run in 58 balls and if they continue their inning he So they can break England's first inning target . England bowling side S Bashir playing very well he took 4 wickets by giving 84 run in 32 overs . If they take more two wickets of India, they can leave India behind them .

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England's spinners bowled beautifully but NGL I am pissed at the quality of umpiring in this match, there is no consistency with the umpires. When Indians were bowling umpire hesitated to raise their fingers and even when it was straightforward LBW. In contrast, they were itching to raise their fingers when Indians were batting. 3 umpires call and 2 LBW calls came when it was brushing the stumps and looked not out to the naked eye. Call it luck or whatever but the 90% of decisions went against India.

I'm sure Stokes would have no problem with umpires call today Grin

Anyway, I also feel umpires call should be removed, let ball tracking decide, either it hits the stump or it don't.

Well, Ben Stokes & Co were claiming a catch of Jaiswal so the less i say about him, the better.

I also don't like the umpire's call but it's a rule and considered the best possible solution by all the pundits so everyone should follow the rules unless some new tech replaces the DRS.

The problem comes when the Umpire shows no consistency with their decision. I can understand it's based on human error and mistakes do happen from the on-field umpires and I can understand 1-2 calls going against anyone in 2 days of gameplay but FFS 7-8 decisions and every decision going against only 1 team.

Stop arguing on irrelevant topic when you don't know the future. Whatever you are arguing about doesn't changes the result wherein Indian team is deep stuck in the mud. The mud is being spunned by one spinner who succeeded in getting 4 or 5 wickets. What is going on is not to be blamed on any batters but BCCI because of that shit Agarkar.

He was a shit bowler and an expensive one, he reclaimed his position as a shit selector with his stupendous selection. Resting Bhumrah for what, IPL? This test series provides an opportunity to rethink why Bhumrah is so important for India. This test again speaks that Indian new comers are working piece of shit. Only exception were Jaiswal and Gill, Jurel is still batting and therefore I can't say anything about him.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on February 24, 2024, 09:33:22 AM

The second day's play of the fourth Test match between India vs England is over. At the end of the second day's play of the fourth Test match, India was all out for 353 runs in the first innings, in reply England team managed to score 219 runs for 7 wickets so far in the second innings. England are still 134 runs behind India's first innings. Since seven batsmen of the first row are out, it is believed that India will be able to score 30 to 50 runs against England. If England can score like 30 to 50 runs in the first innings then India will be ahead then the second innings will be easier for India. As this match is very important for both teams, England and India will definitely try to give maximum performance considering that important aspect. If England win this match, the fifth Test match will be the final match for both.

op In your post you are wrong to mention that England were bowled out for 353 in the second innings in the fourth test match. India could not bat very well in the lead of 353 runs given by England. We all know that India has many strong batsmen but they did not score very good runs in the match today. Team India scored 219 runs for 7 wickets as India's first batsmen were dismissed and they might not be able to score as well in the second innings. Indian team can score maximum 60 to 70 runs in the second innings. If the England team can play their next innings well, then England is on the verge of victory in the fourth test match, but England will have to bowl well and play well, then maybe they can win the fourth test match against India.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 24, 2024, 10:46:48 AM

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At the moment India is trailing by 135 runs, 1 wicket falls from here and it'll be inning done, idk about Akash Deep but Siraj can't bat, has it been Bumrah he could hold his wicket or could bat aggressive and get quick 10-20 runs, we already saw how it turned out for England in last three wickets, 347-7 and 353 all out.

England will give 100+ runs lead IMO, let's see how it goes.

This is the most probable outcome considering the fact that Jurel and Kuldeep will be facing a new ball. Everyone keeps praising Root a lot, but the true game-changer for me was Bashir who came out of nowhere. He has serious potential.

I still think India has a good chance of winning since England can collapse for a small score in the 2nd innings.

Let's assume India all out and ENG got score around 120, still there is possibility to win for team India if they can restrict ENG under 200 and use their batting skill in the aggressive way whenever it's needed and then just score in singles and twos.

India always troubled against quality off spinners for very long time and there is decent assistance in the pitch then as usual the batting order collapsed.

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Quote from: libert19 on February 24, 2024, 06:05:59 AM

At the moment India is trailing by 135 runs, 1 wicket falls from here and it'll be inning done, idk about Akash Deep but Siraj can't bat, has it been Bumrah he could hold his wicket or could bat aggressive and get quick 10-20 runs, we already saw how it turned out for England in last three wickets, 347-7 and 353 all out.

England will give 100+ runs lead IMO, let's see how it goes.

This is the most probable outcome considering the fact that Jurel and Kuldeep will be facing a new ball. Everyone keeps praising Root a lot, but the true game-changer for me was Bashir who came out of nowhere. He has serious potential.

I still think India has a good chance of winning since England can collapse for a small score in the 2nd innings.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on February 24, 2024, 08:22:36 AM

ENG spin outplayed the Indian batting and I don't know what is the point of saying Indian are good at playing the spin tracks when there is little assistance came in for an inexperienced bowling unit.

Kuldeep stood like a wall at one end which saved Indian from big deficit but ENG surely in a driving seat at this match now, so tomorrow India has to give their 100% as team if they want to win the match or else the series is going to be 2-2. Patidar again failed after good start but as said umpiring went completely against team India until now that hurt more than they supposed to be.

Out of 7 wickets that India lost today, 6 were picked by spinners. India still trail by 134 runs and if England can get lead of 100 runs then they have bright chance of making 2-2. Yashasvi Jaiswal once again played a knock that saved India from giving a big lead to England in first innings. Dhruv Jurel is batting along with Kuldeep Yadav and its a great opportunity for Jurel to prove his batting talent. If he can take India to 300 then it will be a huge blow for England.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on February 24, 2024, 08:57:41 AM

England were all out for 353 runs. But when the Indian team started batting on the same day, wickets started to fall quickly. England team fell by 8 wickets and collected only 219. In this way, if the Indian team starts losing wickets, then England will never be able to meet the target of 353 runs given by the team. The batsmen who are there are basically more experienced in terms of bowling, so they should not be relied upon. England team's best bowling performance was Shoaib Bashir who collected four wickets alone. Which has played the most role for England team and has given such good bowling performance that he is one of the best players in this team.

Although England managed to achieve a good target in this test match, the Indian team did not have a very good batting performance from the beginning. England team got all out by collecting 353 runs, but India team lost 7 wickets with 219 runs to meet this target, but no Indian batsman managed to score a century today. However, England's bowling performance in today's match is excellent, and their bowling line-up has put a lot of pressure on the Indian team. Of course, the fourth test match may be a loss for India and a win for England, although it cannot be said for sure, but the way the game is played, it seems likely that the England team will win. India have only three wickets left in their hand, if tomorrow they cannot meet the target of 353 runs and give a good lead, then the Indian team may not be able to go very far.

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The second day's play of the fourth Test match between India vs England is over. At the end of the second day's play of the fourth Test match, India was all out for 353 runs in the first innings, in reply England team managed to score 219 runs for 7 wickets so far in the second innings. England are still 134 runs behind India's first innings. Since seven batsmen of the first row are out, it is believed that India will be able to score 30 to 50 runs against England. If England can score like 30 to 50 runs in the first innings then India will be ahead then the second innings will be easier for India. As this match is very important for both teams, England and India will definitely try to give maximum performance considering that important aspect. If England win this match, the fifth Test match will be the final match for both.

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England were all out for 353 runs. But when the Indian team started batting on the same day, wickets started to fall quickly. England team fell by 8 wickets and collected only 219. In this way, if the Indian team starts losing wickets, then England will never be able to meet the target of 353 runs given by the team. The batsmen who are there are basically more experienced in terms of bowling, so they should not be relied upon. England team's best bowling performance was Shoaib Bashir who collected four wickets alone. Which has played the most role for England team and has given such good bowling performance that he is one of the best players in this team.

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Very bad start for India they lost their captain very early in the game. Then the middle order collapsed starting with Shubhman Gill to Jadeja. Again the pressure to get runs have come down to the new comers of this team. Patidar again failed to get runs and this will not go well with the team management. India have lost 4 wicket but the good thing is that Jaiswal is still batting and Sarfaraz Khan has joined him.

In the fourth Test match between India and England today, we witnessed the utter failure of the Indian batting line-up. Their batting failure was in the second innings of the first Test match where they managed to score 202 runs which resulted in their defeat to England in that match. May be they are walking the same path in the 4th test match too, may be it is a coincidence that the team that bats first in this test series will win the match.

At the end of day 2 india trailed by 134 runs and scored 219 runs in a loss of 7 wickets. Yashasvi Jaiswal batting well scored 73 runs but unfortunately, missed his well-deserved century by a few runs short. Dhruv Jurel is playing at 30 runs not out and Kuldeep Yadav is playing at 17 runs. England batting performance according to this pitch is fine they scored 353 runs in the first inning of the test match. Shoaib Bashir's bowling performance is outstanding picked 4 important wickets by just giving 84 runs. If England bowled out India under 250 runs then they will try to give a big lead more than 400 runs. Then England has very good chance of winning this test match.

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ENG spin outplayed the Indian batting and I don't know what is the point of saying Indian are good at playing the spin tracks when there is little assistance came in for an inexperienced bowling unit.

Kuldeep stood like a wall at one end which saved Indian from big deficit but ENG surely in a driving seat at this match now, so tomorrow India has to give their 100% as team if they want to win the match or else the series is going to be 2-2. Patidar again failed after good start but as said umpiring went completely against team India until now that hurt more than they supposed to be.

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Quote from: Bureau on February 24, 2024, 04:02:38 AM

Very bad start for India they lost their captain very early in the game. Then the middle order collapsed starting with Shubhman Gill to Jadeja. Again the pressure to get runs have come down to the new comers of this team. Patidar again failed to get runs and this will not go well with the team management. India have lost 4 wicket but the good thing is that Jaiswal is still batting and Sarfaraz Khan has joined him.

In the fourth Test match between India and England today, we witnessed the utter failure of the Indian batting line-up. Their batting failure was in the second innings of the first Test match where they managed to score 202 runs which resulted in their defeat to England in that match. May be they are walking the same path in the 4th test match too, may be it is a coincidence that the team that bats first in this test series will win the match.

Young player of Indian team Rajat Patidar he is playing bad continuously I don't know why BCCI is still keeping him with Indian team. Then you should substitute another player in his place based on your batting performance. India's first innings of the fourth Test match between India and England had a full day for England bowler Shoaib Basir because he made good Balls today and took four wickets. India are still 134 runs behind England but they have only three wickets in hand and their batting makes it doubtful that they will be able to cross this mark of 134 runs.

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England's spinners bowled beautifully but NGL I am pissed at the quality of umpiring in this match, there is no consistency with the umpires. When Indians were bowling umpire hesitated to raise their fingers and even when it was straightforward LBW. In contrast, they were itching to raise their fingers when Indians were batting. 3 umpires call and 2 LBW calls came when it was brushing the stumps and looked not out to the naked eye. Call it luck or whatever but the 90% of decisions went against India.

I'm sure Stokes would have no problem with umpires call today Grin

Anyway, I also feel umpires call should be removed, let ball tracking decide, either it hits the stump or it don't.

Well, Ben Stokes & Co were claiming a catch of Jaiswal so the less i say about him, the better.

I also don't like the umpire's call but it's a rule and considered the best possible solution by all the pundits so everyone should follow the rules unless some new tech replaces the DRS.

The problem comes when the Umpire shows no consistency with their decision. I can understand it's based on human error and mistakes do happen from the on-field umpires and I can understand 1-2 calls going against anyone in 2 days of gameplay but FFS 7-8 decisions and every decision going against only 1 team.

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A good day for England. India is in trouble at the moment; apart from Jaiswal, no other batter scored any runs. A few of them got off to a start but could not convert into a big score. At the moment, India trails by 134 runs, and they have 3 wickets in hand. England spinners are bowling beautifully, but the umpiring in the test match is below average. There are plenty of umpire calls today. England is ahead, but the pitch is offering something to spinners, and England's batting lineup will be tested in the third inning against quality Indian spin bowling.

Quote from: libert19 on February 24, 2024, 06:48:39 AM

Anyway, I also feel umpires call should be removed, let ball tracking decide, either it hits the stump or it don't.

Agree. If the ball is clipping the stumps, how come it is not out; it should be out.

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England came to bat in the 1st Innings and gave a target of 353 runs, losing 10 wickets in 104.5 overs. In the 1st Innings, England team could not give a target of many runs, but England team seems to be able to perform well in the bowling line. India team came out to bat, 7 wickets in 73 overs. 219 runs for loss. Team India is still trailing by 134 runs. Rohit Sharma is out for 2 runs in 9 balls. Shubman Gill is out for 38 runs in 65 balls.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 24, 2024, 06:20:51 AM

England's spinners bowled beautifully but NGL I am pissed at the quality of umpiring in this match, there is no consistency with the umpires. When Indians were bowling umpire hesitated to raise their fingers and even when it was straightforward LBW. In contrast, they were itching to raise their fingers when Indians were batting. 3 umpires call and 2 LBW calls came when it was brushing the stumps and looked not out to the naked eye. Call it luck or whatever but the 90% of decisions went against India.

I'm sure Stokes would have no problem with umpires call today Grin

Anyway, I also feel umpires call should be removed, let ball tracking decide, either it hits the stump or it don't.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 24, 2024, 05:37:50 AM

Hilarious seeing people think England already won the ongoing test just because India is struggling at the moment. This match is far from over. Jurel and Kuldeep are playing well together and it looks like they might end up trailing them by 50-100 runs.

This is clearly a spinners surface due to which Bashir, Hartley and Jadeja bowled really well. Jadeja, Ashwin and Kuldeep could be dangerous in the 2nd innings.

It's still too early to predict as England are unable to break the 7th wicket partnership between Dhurv and Kuldeep today. If they be able to bowl out India early tomorrow and start the second inning in third day with a 100 run+ lead, it would be beneficial to England. They would have plenty of time to give a good score to chase for India. There have been twists in second innings changing the game completely in this series but I hope England comes out victorious in this so that we be able to watch the last test with thrill.

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Finally some partnership, otherwise it was over for India.

England's spinners bowled beautifully but NGL I am pissed at the quality of umpiring in this match, there is no consistency with the umpires. When Indians were bowling umpire hesitated to raise their fingers and even when it was straightforward LBW. In contrast, they were itching to raise their fingers when Indians were batting. 3 umpires call and 2 LBW calls came when it was brushing the stumps and looked not out to the naked eye. Call it luck or whatever but the 90% of decisions went against India.

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