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South Africa Vs Sri Lanka

South Africa will take on Sri Lanka in the first test today at Durban. This test match is utmost important when you think in terms of  World Test Championship. Sri Lanka are on the third position and South Africa aren’t behind too. Although they are on the fifth position but since the point difference is less, a win can take them up the table. Both teams will want to win this match and their position strong for the WTC.  By the way, New Zealand are also in the race , at number 4th at this time.

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Yes ,you are right. Like Pakistan, Bangladeshi cricket team is facing hard time because no player is of quality in the team of Bangladesh but we don't know what Pak team did when Bangladeshi team lost Pak team in test matches series.  But we are watching the same team against other teams after we concluded that Bangladeshi cricket board have to talk hard decisions because to there are many referenced players and they will not perform well in the team and Bangladeshi team ranking will go down on International level.West Indies International test cricket team won the match against Bangladeshi International cricket team and WI team won the match by 201 runs which is one sided win

You are making the wrong comparison here. The state of cricket in Pakistan is much better than that in Bangladesh, despite the similarity in population and cricket infrastructure. Pakistan has a cricket structure that is spread across the country, and all regions are being represented in domestic cricket. On the other hand, cricket in Bangladesh is concentrated in Dhaka. Cricket clubs based in Dhaka are still having an outsized influence in the overall cricket structure. In terms of domestic cricket, even West Indies is far ahead of Bangladesh. 
There is big politics within the team. Different countries come up with various plans to keep the domestic cricket better. Most of the countries used to organise different leagues, whereas this can't be seen anywhere in Bangladesh. As said, limited clubs have got control over the Bangladesh cricket board. Also, players often get into some issues. Pakistan isn't the same as Bangladesh. There were issues in between, and the terror issues were the ones that have made Pakistan go low in performance, as they didn't have tours and other countries playing tours in Pakistan for a long time.
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Bangladesh lost again, Bangladesh lost against West Indies by a huge margin of 201 runs. In this test too we saw that the batsmen of Bangladesh failed. West Indies declared the innings by 450 runs in the first innings. On the other hand, Bangladesh lost 9 wickets in the first innings and scored 269 runs and declared the innings. Bangladesh trailed by 181 runs in the first innings. However, West Indies were bowled out for just 152 runs in the 2nd innings. Bangladesh bowlers bowled brilliantly in the 2nd innings especially Taskin Ahmed bowled brilliantly, he took 6 wickets alone. Bangladesh went down to bat in the 2nd innings and were all out for 132 runs. Bangladesh bowling line is somewhat good but batting line is very bad. Bangladesh's opening batsman is not able to perform well in any match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy, Zakir Hasan they are playing badly regularly. In my opinion such bad players should not be allowed in the team. The Test series will be a two-match series, with West Indies leading 1-0 after winning the first match.
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Yes ,you are right. Like Pakistan, Bangladeshi cricket team is facing hard time because no player is of quality in the team of Bangladesh but we don't know what Pak team did when Bangladeshi team lost Pak team in test matches series.  But we are watching the same team against other teams after we concluded that Bangladeshi cricket board have to talk hard decisions because to there are many referenced players and they will not perform well in the team and Bangladeshi team ranking will go down on International level.West Indies International test cricket team won the match against Bangladeshi International cricket team and WI team won the match by 201 runs which is one sided win

You are making the wrong comparison here. The state of cricket in Pakistan is much better than that in Bangladesh, despite the similarity in population and cricket infrastructure. Pakistan has a cricket structure that is spread across the country, and all regions are being represented in domestic cricket. On the other hand, cricket in Bangladesh is concentrated in Dhaka. Cricket clubs based in Dhaka are still having an outsized influence in the overall cricket structure. In terms of domestic cricket, even West Indies is far ahead of Bangladesh. 
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Bangladesh team is not only playing badly in test format but they are playing badly in all formats of cricket. Bangladesh have been given the opportunity to play in Tests for a long time but they have not improved, while Afghanistan, who got the opportunity in Tests far behind them, have improved themselves a lot.  The only reason why Bangladesh is not improving in all formats is because none of their players are playing well. Few of the batsmen currently opening for the Bangladesh team have not scored more than 50 runs in any of the series. So how will they lead the team properly and lead them towards big collections is the question for many cricket pundits now.

Bangladesh is playing poorly ever since they received the test status, but then Afghanistan is not doing that great either. Afghanistan is not even a part of the top tier test division, so at the most they play 1-2 matches per year. Now coming back to Bangladesh, I don't have much scope for them. Many of their senior players are close to retirement, including Shakib al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim and Mahmudullah. Once they retire from international cricket, Bangladesh will be in even more trouble. The younger players are still not performing up to the expectations.
Yes ,you are right. Like Pakistan, Bangladeshi cricket team is facing hard time because no player is of quality in the team of Bangladesh but we don't know what Pak team did when Bangladeshi team lost Pak team in test matches series.  But we are watching the same team against other teams after we concluded that Bangladeshi cricket board have to talk hard decisions because to there are many referenced players and they will not perform well in the team and Bangladeshi team ranking will go down on International level.West Indies International test cricket team won the match against Bangladeshi International cricket team and WI team won the match by 201 runs which is one sided win
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Even though West Indies got the victory but they also didn't bat well in the 2nd innings. They were lucky that even after making only 152 runs in the 2nd innings, they still found themselves as a winner in this test. Both teams need to re-evaluate and learn from the mistakes they made in this match.
Bangladesh team is lucky that they had avoided the follow-on in the first innings. Otherwise, they would have lost the match by an innings. Bangladesh performance is always pathetic in test format, actually they were lucky to win test matches against Pakistan a few months ago. West Indies had ensured 50% victory by scoring 450 runs in the first innings. Then the lead and small run contribution in the second innings has ensured their victory.
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Even though West Indies got the victory but they also didn't bat well in the 2nd innings. They were lucky that even after making only 152 runs in the 2nd innings, they still found themselves as a winner in this test. Both teams need to re-evaluate and learn from the mistakes they made in this match.
I don't think luck has anything to do with the Windies winning because Bangladesh were always trailing behind them from the beginning and never really had a chance after their first innings collapse.

West Indies pretty much destroyed them in both innings which is why they look like they might easily win the series now on their own turf.

I think it was the first innings of West Indies where they made 450 runs, that was the turning point of this game. After that, we saw the bowling dominating the batting in all three innings of the test match.

If we compare the innings of West Indies from the first innings to the second innings then I think West Indies took Bangladesh lightly in the 2nd innings which is why they did not play with much effort in that second innings. In the first innings West Indies scored 450 which was too high and then in the second innings, West Indies just made 152, that was so shocking and I think there is just one reason that they played a bit causal in that innings.
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Even though West Indies got the victory but they also didn't bat well in the 2nd innings. They were lucky that even after making only 152 runs in the 2nd innings, they still found themselves as a winner in this test. Both teams need to re-evaluate and learn from the mistakes they made in this match.
I don't think luck has anything to do with the Windies winning because Bangladesh were always trailing behind them from the beginning and never really had a chance after their first innings collapse.

West Indies pretty much destroyed them in both innings which is why they look like they might easily win the series now on their own turf.
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In the second and last innings, Bangladesh bowled out West Indies as quickly as Bangladesh came out to bat in their second innings but gave away their wickets as quickly as they did. 
At 109, Bangladesh have already lost seven wickets and the target is still high. We already understand that the three wickets in hand will not score much runs, in which case West Indies will win by a big margin against Bangladesh, it is only a matter of time. 

West Indies has won the first test match because now it was like impossible for the Bangladesh team to win the game today because they need 225 runs and they did not have much wickets in hand, just three wickets fell and they lost.  In the first innings, Bangladesh made 269 but in this innings, they were dismissed for 132 runs only.

Even though West Indies got the victory but they also didn't bat well in the 2nd innings. They were lucky that even after making only 152 runs in the 2nd innings, they still found themselves as a winner in this test. Both teams need to re-evaluate and learn from the mistakes they made in this match.
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In the second and last innings, Bangladesh bowled out West Indies as quickly as Bangladesh came out to bat in their second innings but gave away their wickets as quickly as they did. 
At 109, Bangladesh have already lost seven wickets and the target is still high. We already understand that the three wickets in hand will not score much runs, in which case West Indies will win by a big margin against Bangladesh, it is only a matter of time. 

However, if Bangladesh had not declared an innings, then there would not have been the possibility that they have the chance to win now. Since there is no chance of victory for Bangladesh, I expect the last three batsmen to bat well at least.
In the second innings, both the teams did not play that special as Bangladesh put pressure on West Indies to defend themselves in the second innings and West Indies put pressure on Bangladesh to defend themselves in the second innings.  The main reason for this is that West Indies set a big target in the first innings.
Bangladesh batsmen have not played patiently although if they had scored good runs in the second innings, they could have made up for the mistakes they made in the first innings.  Yes, you have absolutely correct said that Bangladesh is not a capable team to achieve such a big margin thanks to 3 wickets.

Bangladesh batsmen have also lost 3 of their wickets as they realized that we cannot meet the target due to which they lost only 9 wickets and scored 132 runs to end the match.  Had they been good in this innings from the start, they could have beaten the West Indies.
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I have seen a lot of degradation in Bangladesh's game, how they do not have high aspirations for their game. Currently, the Bangladesh team is playing very badly in every match, they are not winning brilliantly against any team, but rather losing badly. Just today, when they came out to bat at the beginning of the match against the West Indies, they batted very badly and got out quickly. When we see the batting performance of the opening batsmen, we really hate them, we did not imagine such a batting performance from them. Today's match, the Bangladesh team lost badly against the West Indies, which is really sad, but for the West Indies, it is a matter of great joy that they have advanced in the series. Today's match, the West Indies team won by a huge margin of 202 runs, the first Test match of the West Indies against Bangladesh was a very good performance against Bangladesh.

Bangladesh team is not playing for win whenever they play outside home. Given the fact that West Indies is perhaps the weakest opponent they can get in division 1 test format, this outcome will be disappointing for them. The only positive for them to take away from this match is Taskin Ahmed's performance in the third innings. He picked up 6 wickets, and bowled out West Indies for just 152 runs. But then, he didn't got much support from the other bowlers. If Mustafizur Rahman was there in the XI, then things would have been different.
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I have seen a lot of degradation in Bangladesh's game, how they do not have high aspirations for their game. Currently, the Bangladesh team is playing very badly in every match, they are not winning brilliantly against any team, but rather losing badly. Just today, when they came out to bat at the beginning of the match against the West Indies, they batted very badly and got out quickly. When we see the batting performance of the opening batsmen, we really hate them, we did not imagine such a batting performance from them. Today's match, the Bangladesh team lost badly against the West Indies, which is really sad, but for the West Indies, it is a matter of great joy that they have advanced in the series. Today's match, the West Indies team won by a huge margin of 202 runs, the first Test match of the West Indies against Bangladesh was a very good performance against Bangladesh.
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In the second and last innings, Bangladesh bowled out West Indies as quickly as Bangladesh came out to bat in their second innings but gave away their wickets as quickly as they did. 
At 109, Bangladesh have already lost seven wickets and the target is still high. We already understand that the three wickets in hand will not score much runs, in which case West Indies will win by a big margin against Bangladesh, it is only a matter of time. 

However, if Bangladesh had not declared an innings, then there would not have been the possibility that they have the chance to win now. Since there is no chance of victory for Bangladesh, I expect the last three batsmen to bat well at least.
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Bangladesh team is not only playing badly in test format but they are playing badly in all formats of cricket. Bangladesh have been given the opportunity to play in Tests for a long time but they have not improved, while Afghanistan, who got the opportunity in Tests far behind them, have improved themselves a lot.  The only reason why Bangladesh is not improving in all formats is because none of their players are playing well. Few of the batsmen currently opening for the Bangladesh team have not scored more than 50 runs in any of the series. So how will they lead the team properly and lead them towards big collections is the question for many cricket pundits now.

Bangladesh is playing poorly ever since they received the test status, but then Afghanistan is not doing that great either. Afghanistan is not even a part of the top tier test division, so at the most they play 1-2 matches per year. Now coming back to Bangladesh, I don't have much scope for them. Many of their senior players are close to retirement, including Shakib al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim and Mahmudullah. Once they retire from international cricket, Bangladesh will be in even more trouble. The younger players are still not performing up to the expectations.
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The chances of Bangladesh team winning against West Indies in Test format are very low. There is no doubt that Bangladesh is a very weak team in Test format. We saw Bangladesh team perform very badly against India in the last series as well and Bangladesh could not play well in the home series against South Africa. However, West Indies gave a very big target. Even then it can be said that Bangladesh team will not be able to win. Bangladesh team will not get good batting even in the second innings from the two openers Zakir and Joy. If Mominul and Liton cannot bat well then Bangladesh innings will end very quickly.
Zakir Hasan, Mahmudul Hasan Joy, Mominul, Shahadat Hossain these four batsmen of Bangladesh are out after collecting 23 runs today. If a team gets four top-order batsmen out early like this, think how difficult it will be for that team to win. Basically, he lost every test match due to bad performance in Bangladesh test cricket. If Bangladesh can't develop batting, then gradually Bangladesh will be excluded from the opportunity to play Tests due to poor performance.
Bangladesh team is not only playing badly in test format, but also other formats of cricket like T20 and ODI are playing badly in all formats. Bangladesh have been qualifying for Tests for a long time but they have not improved, while the teams that have qualified for Tests after them have improved a lot. The only reason why Bangladesh is not improving in all formats is because none of their players are playing well.

The batsmen who open batting for Bangladesh team cannot score more than fifty runs in most of the matches, they cannot bat patiently. Good batting by the opening batsmen is very important for a team's big collection because if the opening batsmen can score more runs then the other batsmen can also bat with confidence.
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However, when Bangladesh came into bat they started to lose wickets right from the start. They were 23-4 at time and the wickets falling didn't stop at any moment. Now they need 225 more runs and only 3 wickets are left. It's only a matter of time when Jaker Ali and Hasan Mahmud will be out and the game will be all over for Bangladesh.

Yeah, it's just a matter of time. The pitch was pretty much batting-friendly in the first innings, and then it slowly became unplayable. Bangladesh played as usual. But I don't think West Indies batting collapse as usual. I feel like there was something special on the wicket for the bowlers, and Bangladesh was able to take all the wickets for just 152 runs.

Of course, I would credit Taskin Ahmed, who got his first five-wicket haul and managed to take six wickets. But as I said, it seems like the wicket has turned into heaven for the bowlers. Bangladesh will likely lose their remaining three wickets in the first hour of day five.
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I am confident that West Indies will win today's match against Bangladesh by a huge margin. The bowling and batting performance of the West Indies team is very good, as we can see from their game, they will play better in the next matches. However, the batting and bowling performance of the Bangladesh team is not good at all, moreover, the Bangladesh team will lose badly in their first Test match. The West Indies team was able to give a huge lead of 334 runs, and to fill this lead, the Bangladesh team's batsmen could not bat well at the beginning. I think the current players of the Bangladesh team are not experienced in Test games at all. However, the current performance of the Bangladesh team is very disappointing, so they have to improve their game, only then will there be any hope of winning in the next matches.
You are right. West Indies will win by a huge runs against Bangladesh. Even with strategic decisions, Bangladesh will not be able to avoid defeat in this Test because they declared their first innings despite being 181 runs behind at the end of the fourth day. West Indies came out to bat in the second innings and lost all their wickets for just 152 runs. Bangladesh's bowlers bowled well, especially Taskin who took 6 wickets for 64 runs in 14.1 overs. Although the bowlers bowled well, the batsmen disappointed the audience. Batting for a target of 334 runs they started competing for wickets and managed to score 109 runs for the loss of 7 wickets in 31 overs and are waiting for the start of the last days play. I am sure that Bangladesh will lose by a huge runs.
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So anyone wants to predict the playing 11 for the Indian team for the next match against Australia? As captain Rohit Sharma is back in Australia and was also seen practicing in the nets today. Moreover, Subhman Gill will also be available for the second match. Now who will be dropped from the squad for these two? Maybe KL will be shifted back to the 5-6th position (in place of Dhruv Jurel)? And Gill directly comes in place of Padikal? Then Rohit and Jaiswal will open the innings. Or will we be seeing something shocking? I want to hear everyone’s predictions here.

I have same predictions as you. But, one more I would add — Jadeja or Ashwin could be coming-in in place of Washington Sundar since he wasn't as effective.

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However, when Bangladesh came into bat they started to lose wickets right from the start. They were 23-4 at time and the wickets falling didn't stop at any moment. Now they need 225 more runs and only 3 wickets are left. It's only a matter of time when Jaker Ali and Hasan Mahmud will be out and the game will be all over for Bangladesh.

I could predict before the match that Bangladesh would lose this match. This team is very weak in the Test format. It cannot be said that Bangladesh is strong in the ODI and T20 formats. However, occasionally the Bangladesh team is able to play well in some matches of the ODI and T20 formats.

West Indies made a big collection in the first innings. So even after batting badly in the second innings, the West Indies batsmen were able to give a decent target. West Indies gave a target of 334 runs. At the end of the fourth day, Bangladesh could collect only 109 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. I do not see any possibility of Bangladesh winning this match. Bangladesh will lose by a big margin.

Bangladesh will play two Test matches, three ODIs and three T20 matches in this tour. I do not think that Bangladesh will be able to win any match in the Test and T20 formats.
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I am confident that West Indies will win today's match against Bangladesh by a huge margin. The bowling and batting performance of the West Indies team is very good, as we can see from their game, they will play better in the next matches. However, the batting and bowling performance of the Bangladesh team is not good at all, moreover, the Bangladesh team will lose badly in their first Test match. The West Indies team was able to give a huge lead of 334 runs, and to fill this lead, the Bangladesh team's batsmen could not bat well at the beginning. I think the current players of the Bangladesh team are not experienced in Test games at all. However, the current performance of the Bangladesh team is very disappointing, so they have to improve their game, only then will there be any hope of winning in the next matches.
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