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Quote from: FinePoine0 on December 15, 2023, 11:42:28 AM

Pakistan team scored a good 132 runs for just 2 wickets on the first day. Because the main reason for playing Test is to protect the wicket and survive for a long time. Then it is definitely possible to compete with any strong team. I can already see that two wickets have fallen they have already scored good runs. If Imam-ul-Haq can stay patient properly then definitely can fulfill the target of 487 runs given by Australia. As the Pakistan team lost only two wickets on the first day, they are not under much pressure.

You are underestimating the Australian bowling attack. 487 is a long way away which is why I am not expecting Pakistan to give them a lead. They will probably end up trailing them by a decent margin.

Lyon is the man to look out for in my opinion since he can rip apart lineups in a heartbeat.

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Quote from: Jateng on December 15, 2023, 10:50:45 AM

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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.

Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth

Australia batted brilliantly in their first innings. Australia's opener David Warner batted brilliantly. David Warner scored 164 off 211 balls. Australia batted brilliantly from every batsman as every batsman batted brilliantly they were able to give Pakistan a big run lead. Australia gave Pakistan a lead of 487 runs in their first innings. Batting against the target of 487 runs given by Australia, Pakistan's openers started the game cautiously. Pakistan's current score is 132 runs for 2 wickets. Pakistan's next batsmen will need to bat carefully to get close to Australia's 487 runs. But in the first innings, I think Australia has more chances to win.

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Quote from: Jateng on December 15, 2023, 10:50:45 AM

Quote from: jasonjm on December 15, 2023, 06:29:29 AM

Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.

Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth

2 nd day of this test game is between Australia team and Pakistan team and in this day, Pakistan team chase down 132 runs in 53 overs and by losing 2 wickets in this game. In 1 st inning, Australia team scored high runs of total 487 runs in 113.2 overs by losing all wickets. Now Pakistan team 1 st inning was starting in pitch and they performed very well. A. Shafique and Imam ul haq started this game as a opener batsman in this test game A. Shafique scored 42 runs in 121 balls and he hitted six 4s and his wicket bowled out by N.Lyon bowler of Australia team. Imam ul haq still showed their batting lineup effort on ground and he scored 38 runs in 136 balls and he hitted three 4s. S.Maqsood also wiped out on ground and he scored 30 runs in 42 balls and he hitted five 4s. K.Shahzad scored 7 runs in few balls and hitted one 4s and still played on ground.

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Quote from: Jateng on December 15, 2023, 10:50:45 AM

Quote from: jasonjm on December 15, 2023, 06:29:29 AM

Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.

Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth

Pakistan team scored a good 132 runs for just 2 wickets on the first day. Because the main reason for playing Test is to protect the wicket and survive for a long time. Then it is definitely possible to compete with any strong team. I can already see that two wickets have fallen they have already scored good runs. If Imam-ul-Haq can stay patient properly then definitely can fulfill the target of 487 runs given by Australia. As the Pakistan team lost only two wickets on the first day, they are not under much pressure.

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Quote from: MusaPk on December 15, 2023, 12:30:49 AM

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Given the fact that they sent a very inexperienced squad, I would say that Pakistan did well to restrict Australia to 346/5 in the first day. Now they are 416/6, as Mitchell Marsh and Alex Carey added 90 valuable runs for the 6th wicket partnership. Now Mitchell Starc has come out to join Marsh, and there is a good chance that Australia may get to a total of 500 plus. In that case, avoiding follow on will be difficult for Pakistan. Australia has a full strength attack, which includes Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon and Josh Hazlewood.

Australia concluded there innings at 487 runs. Pakistani bowlers have done a decent job, apart from picking the wicket of Warner very late. As usual they were sloppy in field, missed catches and stumping chances. All these blunders allowed Australia to score 487 runs. Now it will be interesting to see how Pakistan respond to this total of 487. There are high expectations from Babar Azam and I hope Pakistan has the ability to score 300 or more runs.

After watching first day highlights I was expecting good target but at the end we have good comeback from them and both debutant done good job with 8 wickets for them, and they restricted Australia for the 487 is also big achievement for them, but now we have to check how Pakistani batsmen will perform here on this batting pitch because there is nothing they need to play positive and having try to stay for long time if they want to have something good.

Mostly players are new and having not experience of this format as well but still selectors play gamble with all cricketing fans also know how Australians treat Pakistani cricket at their home they never won any match since 1996, and they never think about this as well what to do for the improvement and better results as well.

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Quote from: jasonjm on December 15, 2023, 06:29:29 AM

Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.

Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 15, 2023, 08:59:52 AM

I am impressed with Khurram Shahzad, yesterday he bowled quite beautifully and he was the only disciplined guy in the Pakistani bowling lineup. Didn't watch his spell today so don't know how he reacted to the 2nd new ball.

Bowling in Australia is not an easy task for the subcontinent bowlers, most of the time bowlers from our part of the world get too excited with the bouncy wickets. Extra bounce and fast paced pitch give them the illusion of being fast (Similar to SENA spinners in India) so they try extra hard and in doing so they leak runs like a club cricketer, some do learn the art if they are given a long rope but for the new guys only time can tell.

I've noticed this with Afridi, if batsmen start attacking him he goes into his shell and looks quite average and it happens in every format. Having said that today he bowled a good spell with the 2nd new ball but he's nowhere close to what he was 2 years back. Naseem is injured so no point talking about him but he could've been effective here because he take care of his line n length. Regarding Haris, i won't say much as i don't consider him a Test bowler.

In Pakistan there is no dearth of talent. But once some talented player lands in the national team, they don't know how to groom him. I will be very disappointed if Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal ends up like Muhammad Hasnain. They change the format of their first-class competition every 2-3 years and as a result of that there is no stability. That maybe one of the reasons. And regarding their weakness in Australian pitches, I am surprised as many of these players are used to Australian conditions (they participate in the Big Bash League).

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Quote from: HelliumZ on December 15, 2023, 09:14:41 AM

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India woman and England woman between 2nd day start of second inning has been going. Toady India not palying well they have 155 score with lose of 6 wickets.Verma made 33 run in 54 balls and Mandhana made 26 runs in 29 balls and S Rane out at zero run . Now H Kaur and Vastrakar playing going partnership , if she as well inning they made high score for team so England woman can come under the pressure. England woman side C Dean palying very well in bowling she took 4 wickets by giving 54 runs in 16 over and Ecclestone she took 2 wickets by giving 72 run in 13 overs

India women have a lead of 478 runs in two innings which is completely impossible for England. India lost 6 wickets for 186 runs in the second innings in this case India can declare an innings if they wish. England Women were bowled out for just 136 runs in their first innings, suggesting that they could at least score 200 runs, with India holding a lead of 478 runs, enough to defeat England.

India Women's first innings performance was superb to give England Women a lead of 428 runs. England Women went into bat with a lead of 428 runs and were bowled out for just 136 runs. India Women's team did not bat as well in the second innings as compared to the first innings. India women's team lost 6 wickets for just 186 runs. Let's see how many runs the India women's team can give England a lead in the second innings.

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Quote from: jasonjm on December 15, 2023, 06:29:29 AM

Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.

As we are watching their bowlers leaked too many runs and now their batting is doing ok but tomorrow is surely important for them with if they will play freely then surely they will be able to have something positive but if they will try to play slow then surely Nathan Lyon will create problems for them with pitch is good for batting and Pakistani batting line-up needs to score above 400+ if they want alive in this match and have some good for the rest of this series.

Imam is still on crease with Babar and few others are going to join him in coming day hopefully after watching Australian batting they will improve their technique and also having some good from their own performance with we have good thing as mostly fans were feeling Australia will go above 550+ to 600, but Pakistani new bowlers restricted them for the 487 which is good return from them after poor first day.

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Quote from: Compromise me on December 15, 2023, 06:18:12 AM

India woman and England woman between 2nd day start of second inning has been going. Toady India not palying well they have 155 score with lose of 6 wickets.Verma made 33 run in 54 balls and Mandhana made 26 runs in 29 balls and S Rane out at zero run . Now H Kaur and Vastrakar playing going partnership , if she as well inning they made high score for team so England woman can come under the pressure. England woman side C Dean palying very well in bowling she took 4 wickets by giving 54 runs in 16 over and Ecclestone she took 2 wickets by giving 72 run in 13 overs

India women have a lead of 478 runs in two innings which is completely impossible for England. India lost 6 wickets for 186 runs in the second innings in this case India can declare an innings if they wish. England Women were bowled out for just 136 runs in their first innings, suggesting that they could at least score 200 runs, with India holding a lead of 478 runs, enough to defeat England.

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Quote from: jasonjm on December 15, 2023, 06:29:29 AM

Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve.

Yes, their strike rate was too low. But, hey, this is called test cricket. When you are under pressure and see that opponent bowling nicely, you have to respect the ball and leave it. You have to stay on the wicket as long as you can. It was only the 2nd day. So, I won't blame the openers because of the low strike rate. Even, I would say that was perfect test show from the openers.

It's not like ODI crickets. Batters will come to the crease and they will score 30 from 45 balls and get back to the dressing room. But in test match, someone has to play more than three hundred balls and try to stay on the crease as long as they can.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2023, 07:52:52 AM

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I'd have trusted these folks more if they had used the word "Discipline" with the Pakistani bowling lineup but that wasn't the case at all.

Jamal did wrap the tail and 6 wicket haul in his debut series is commendable but tbh he was all over the place and offered plenty of freebies in every over, his wicket ball for Alex Carey was peach tho and could've rattled any batter in the world.

Both Aamer Jamal and Khurram Shahzad were a bit wayward at times, and given the fact that they were playing their debut test perhaps the nerves got the better of them. Despite that Jamal got a spectacular 6-wicket haul and without that Australia would have got to a 600+ total. But then what about Shaheen Shah Afridi? He is the most experienced bowler in Pakistan squad and he returned figures of 27-7-96-1. He was neither economical, nor successful. I guess in order to take wickets, he need Naseem or Haris at the other end.

I am impressed with Khurram Shahzad, yesterday he bowled quite beautifully and he was the only disciplined guy in the Pakistani bowling lineup. Didn't watch his spell today so don't know how he reacted to the 2nd new ball.

Bowling in Australia is not an easy task for the subcontinent bowlers, most of the time bowlers from our part of the world get too excited with the bouncy wickets. Extra bounce and fast paced pitch give them the illusion of being fast (Similar to SENA spinners in India) so they try extra hard and in doing so they leak runs like a club cricketer, some do learn the art if they are given a long rope but for the new guys only time can tell.

I've noticed this with Afridi, if batsmen start attacking him he goes into his shell and looks quite average and it happens in every format. Having said that today he bowled a good spell with the 2nd new ball but he's nowhere close to what he was 2 years back. Naseem is injured so no point talking about him but he could've been effective here because he take care of his line n length. Regarding Haris, i won't say much as i don't consider him a Test bowler.

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Haris Rauf understands his body condition and if he focuses on his financial security by prioritizing T-20, then there is nothing wrong with it.

He has virtually no FC experience, The last time he played a test match on his debut series he gave up after a couple of spells and had to leave the ground so he clearly can't ball more than 10 overs in a test match. Pakistani fans should understand this and management should leave the poor guy alone, On top of that FFS they must stop shaming him and they need to come up with a better solution. Pakistan is lucky that he's not in the team otherwise they could have been 1 bowler short for the next 4 days.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 15, 2023, 07:32:28 AM

I'd have trusted these folks more if they had used the word "Discipline" with the Pakistani bowling lineup but that wasn't the case at all.

Jamal did wrap the tail and 6 wicket haul in his debut series is commendable but tbh he was all over the place and offered plenty of freebies in every over, his wicket ball for Alex Carey was peach tho and could've rattled any batter in the world.

Both Aamer Jamal and Khurram Shahzad were a bit wayward at times, and given the fact that they were playing their debut test perhaps the nerves got the better of them. Despite that Jamal got a spectacular 6-wicket haul and without that Australia would have got to a 600+ total. But then what about Shaheen Shah Afridi? He is the most experienced bowler in Pakistan squad and he returned figures of 27-7-96-1. He was neither economical, nor successful. I guess in order to take wickets, he need Naseem or Haris at the other end.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on December 15, 2023, 12:28:32 AM

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I know there is no issue with the pitch as it's on the flatter side but Aussie comms keep saying that it's a tough pitch for batters.

I mean, c'mon. The first inning score is about to touch the 500 mark and these guys saying it's tough to bat on? Do they think that listeners are dumb or something?

Lol! You're right. They ended up posting a huge target of around 487 runs though they could have surpassed 500 if it wasn't for Jamal ripping into the tail-enders. He performed admirably though he needs to stop leaking so many runs.

Warner and Marsh were the highlights. Pakistan could lose the first test by an innings if they don't bat smartly.

I'd have trusted these folks more if they had used the word "Discipline" with the Pakistani bowling lineup but that wasn't the case at all.

Jamal did wrap the tail and 6 wicket haul in his debut series is commendable but tbh he was all over the place and offered plenty of freebies in every over, his wicket ball for Alex Carey was peach tho and could've rattled any batter in the world.

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Quote from: MusaPk on December 15, 2023, 12:30:49 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 14, 2023, 10:31:42 PM

Given the fact that they sent a very inexperienced squad, I would say that Pakistan did well to restrict Australia to 346/5 in the first day. Now they are 416/6, as Mitchell Marsh and Alex Carey added 90 valuable runs for the 6th wicket partnership. Now Mitchell Starc has come out to join Marsh, and there is a good chance that Australia may get to a total of 500 plus. In that case, avoiding follow on will be difficult for Pakistan. Australia has a full strength attack, which includes Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon and Josh Hazlewood.

Australia concluded there innings at 487 runs. Pakistani bowlers have done a decent job, apart from picking the wicket of Warner very late. As usual they were sloppy in field, missed catches and stumping chances. All these blunders allowed Australia to score 487 runs. Now it will be interesting to see how Pakistan respond to this total of 487. There are high expectations from Babar Azam and I hope Pakistan has the ability to score 300 or more runs.

Australia managed to score a great score on the first day in their first test match where 487 runs I think is too much. A few cashes and stumping misses saw Australia put up a huge score today, only for a poor performance from the Australian bowlers. Now it is to be seen whether the Pakistan team will be able to complete the target of 487 runs, although the Australian team has already lost two wickets to meet the target. Scored 132 runs in 53 overs for the loss of 2 wickets though none of the players put together a very good pair due to which none reached a century. At the moment, however, Australia still need to collect 355 runs to meet the target, but if Pakistan can keep playing then this target is definitely achievable. If Babar Azam can do something good for the team today then surely the match can successfully reach the good target and give Australia a good lead by completing the target.

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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.

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Quote from: Bureau on December 15, 2023, 04:30:37 AM

The strategy of Imam-ul-Haq is working for him, he is playing defensively and giving more chances to Shan Masood to bat. Only 1 wicket was lost and Pakistan is trailing by 372 runs, a partnership in the making. Australian bowlers are not getting much from the pitch being a team playing on their home ground. They would need another wicket before the game ends, if they get another wicket then Babar Azam would come to bat. He would be under pressure which would affect his batting.

Today Pakistan at last done their job.. Mitchel Marsh makes crucial runs at he end and now Australia hasba good total in the first inining. 487 runs is a good target in a first inining test match. All the players of Australia batted very well and Australia captain along with coach will be happy from their performance. Aamer Jamal has bowled very fantastic. Although he is a new player and stilm taken 6 wickets while Shaheen Afridi is an old and experienced player but still he took only one wicket. Aamer Jamal is such a player. If he is given a chance in future. So it will shine as a star for Pakistan team.

The batting condition of the Pakistan team at the moment is in trouble because if they continue to play like this it is very difficult for them to score 487 runs. Imam-ul-Haq is still in the batting but the run rate is very low. one big difference between both team is, Australia players was so good in scoring runs. Pakistan run rate is very low as compared to Australia.

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India woman and England woman between 2nd day start of second inning has been going. Toady India not palying well they have 155 score with lose of 6 wickets.Verma made 33 run in 54 balls and Mandhana made 26 runs in 29 balls and S Rane out at zero run . Now H Kaur and Vastrakar playing going partnership , if she as well inning they made high score for team so England woman can come under the pressure. England woman side C Dean palying very well in bowling she took 4 wickets by giving 54 runs in 16 over and Ecclestone she took 2 wickets by giving 72 run in 13 overs

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The strategy of Imam-ul-Haq is working for him, he is playing defensively and giving more chances to Shan Masood to bat. Only 1 wicket was lost and Pakistan is trailing by 372 runs, a partnership in the making. Australian bowlers are not getting much from the pitch being a team playing on their home ground. They would need another wicket before the game ends, if they get another wicket then Babar Azam would come to bat. He would be under pressure which would affect his batting.

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Australia team all out for 487 runs. Pakistan team came out to bat today. 110 runs in 43.4 overs. Pakistan team lost 1 wicket so far. Abdullah Shafique was out for 42 runs off 121 balls. Australia batted well in 1st inns. Now if you can do well in the bowling line, Australia can still be ahead by many runs. However, Pakistan team is very strong in the batting line. Now wait to see how Pakistan team can perform in batting. Still Pakistan team is behind by 374 runs.

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