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Quote from: MusaPk on December 17, 2023, 05:18:35 AM

Not even a single six hit by any Pakistani batsmen in both innings, this shows the level of defensive approach in Pakistani lineup. Anyways this is not something new. Pakistan has same performance when they have big names like Wasim, Waqar and Inzamam, now they have a new captain which was not even part of test squad before.

Not every team is capable of the Bazball approach in tests. Pakistan is doing the right thing sticking to a defensive approach which worked in the past thanks to legends like Inzamam as you mentioned.

This approach could still work at present as long as they have great test format batsmen which they clearly are severely lacking.

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Quote from: elevates on December 17, 2023, 02:18:31 AM

The way Pakistani wickets are falling it looks like Australia wants to end the game today. Second innings of Pakistan is even worst than the first, again the middle order struggling and this time the top order didn't work. The pitch is having uneven bounce which is helping the seam bowlers. Babar Azam again got out cheaply, it now depends on Shakeel and Sarfaraz to get thier partnership going.

This will become so true after the tea break Grin

. Babar Azam ended his game for the day at the tea break. The target is still very big, I don't think Sarfaraz Ahmed will be able to complete this target with the rest of the batsmen. I think the remaining 6 wickets will fall today too

Why was he selected in the first place is questionable? He has lost touch as a wicket keeper and his batting in both the innings was bad. I won't blame him for the loss, but in general the whole Pakistan team I felt has forgotten how to play test cricket. I hope they sit back and take a look as to what went wrong in the first match.

In current Pakistan team most of the players are having spots just because of their own links they are not having spots on merit which is really dilemma for the team and country as I mentioned above too much politics are involved and this is going to kill the beauty of this team as well after watching today's performance everyone back at home is feeling embarrassing what the hell they are doing here and what is going to happen in coming matches after this performance all is clear.
We can't blame just one person for this all mostly are having their spots just for their political views, and they are doing things which are not acceptable for the sports as well 2023 is the worst year for the Babar Azam and Pakistan with I am looking no changes in next year as well if they are not able to have selection on format and merit.

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Quote from: |MINER| on December 17, 2023, 02:27:27 AM

Quote from: elevates on December 17, 2023, 02:18:31 AM

The way Pakistani wickets are falling it looks like Australia wants to end the game today. Second innings of Pakistan is even worst than the first, again the middle order struggling and this time the top order didn't work. The pitch is having uneven bounce which is helping the seam bowlers. Babar Azam again got out cheaply, it now depends on Shakeel and Sarfaraz to get thier partnership going.

This will become so true after the tea break Grin

. Babar Azam ended his game for the day at the tea break. The target is still very big, I don't think Sarfaraz Ahmed will be able to complete this target with the rest of the batsmen. I think the remaining 6 wickets will fall today too

Why was he selected in the first place is questionable? He has lost touch as a wicket keeper and his batting in both the innings was bad. I won't blame him for the loss, but in general the whole Pakistan team I felt has forgotten how to play test cricket. I hope they sit back and take a look as to what went wrong in the first match.

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Quote from: MusaPk on December 17, 2023, 05:18:35 AM

Quote from: Cheema02 on December 17, 2023, 03:56:14 AM

Very poor batting performance from Pakistani team all out in just 89 runs in second innings of the match. Australia won this test match by 360 runs a huge victory for Australia and lead the series by 1-0. The player of the match is Mitchell Marsh for his amazing all round batting and bowling performance scored 90 runs in 1st inning and also picked 1 important wicket by giving 34 runs and he bat well in second innings of match scored 63 runs unbeaten. Pakistan poor batting no better scored except Babar Azam and Soud Shakeel who scored 24 runs.

Not even a single six hit by any Pakistani batsmen in both innings, this shows the level of defensive approach in Pakistani lineup. Anyways this is not something new. Pakistan has same performance when they have big names like Wasim, Waqar and Inzamam, now they have a new captain which was not even part of test squad before. 12 points to Australia as this test is part of ICC World Test Championship.

Currently, Pakistani team is going to be crap because now too much politics involved, and they are trying to have control which is creating problems in next games we will have the worst performance from them as well which is trademark of this team and most chances next 2 years are going to be not easy for them in all formats most chances they will be dropped from top four in all formats and stay in sixth and seventh spots which are best for them with this quality and performance.
PCB needs professional approach, but it's not happening due to internal crisis in Pakistan, and they are bringing crap selectors and coaching staff as well which is making good meme for this team and country as well.

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Quote from: Cheema02 on December 17, 2023, 03:56:14 AM

Very poor batting performance from Pakistani team all out in just 89 runs in second innings of the match. Australia won this test match by 360 runs a huge victory for Australia and lead the series by 1-0. The player of the match is Mitchell Marsh for his amazing all round batting and bowling performance scored 90 runs in 1st inning and also picked 1 important wicket by giving 34 runs and he bat well in second innings of match scored 63 runs unbeaten. Pakistan poor batting no better scored except Babar Azam and Soud Shakeel who scored 24 runs.

Not even a single six hit by any Pakistani batsmen in both innings, this shows the level of defensive approach in Pakistani lineup. Anyways this is not something new. Pakistan has same performance when they have big names like Wasim, Waqar and Inzamam, now they have a new captain which was not even part of test squad before. 12 points to Australia as this test is part of ICC World Test Championship.

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Australia vs Pakistan 1st Test match is just ended. And i really wonder for Pakistan team performance, 89/10 ??!! Australia did great start up in their 1st day with Warner 164(211) and rest of players also did well. Pakistan managed to scored 271 run somehow. again Australia did avarage score 233 where Khawaja 90(190) score lead the team but Australia's 1st inning run make the target very big for Pakistan to win. It was clear that Australia going to win but never thought Pakistan would score such low run as response. And as a result Australia get their victory with 360 run which is huge score. Josh Hazlewood and Mitchell Starc got 3wickets each and stopped Pakistan within 89/10 which is incredible & that's why Mitchell Starc get the fame, Player of the Match recognition

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Quote from: MusaPk on December 17, 2023, 03:41:38 AM

Quote from: Cheema02 on December 17, 2023, 03:22:36 AM

Pakistan player poor cricket they lost their 8 wickets in just score 83 runs in last session of the day 4. Australia need 2 more wickets to win this test match. Pakistani openers poor batting Abdullah Shafiq is score only 2 runs, imam ul haq are also scored only 10 runs. Pakistan test team captain shan masood is score just 2 and best bastmen babar Azam also didn't perform well. I think Australia bowling is outstanding in this test match especially Mitchell Starc amazing bowling picked 3 important wicktes in 2nd innings against Pakistan.

It's all over, Australia has won first test by a big margin of 360 runs. Only three Pakistani players were able to make it to double figures. Saud Shakeel was top scorer with 24 runs. Wickets for all Australian bowlers whether its spinner or pacer, we can't say it's spinning track or for pacers. 32 runs scored by Pakistan new captain while babar Azam scored 35 runs.

Very poor batting performance from Pakistani team all out in just 89 runs in second innings of the match. Australia won this test match by 360 runs a huge victory for Australia and lead the series by 1-0. The player of the match is Mitchell Marsh for his amazing all round batting and bowling performance scored 90 runs in 1st inning and also picked 1 important wicket by giving 34 runs and he bat well in second innings of match scored 63 runs unbeaten. Pakistan poor batting no better scored except Babar Azam and Soud Shakeel who scored 24 runs.

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Quote from: Cheema02 on December 17, 2023, 03:22:36 AM

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Pakistan player poor cricket they lost their 8 wickets in just score 83 runs in last session of the day 4. Australia need 2 more wickets to win this test match. Pakistani openers poor batting Abdullah Shafiq is score only 2 runs, imam ul haq are also scored only 10 runs. Pakistan test team captain shan masood is score just 2 and best bastmen babar Azam also didn't perform well. I think Australia bowling is outstanding in this test match especially Mitchell Starc amazing bowling picked 3 important wicktes in 2nd innings against Pakistan.

It's all over, Australia has won first test by a big margin of 360 runs. Only three Pakistani players were able to make it to double figures. Saud Shakeel was top scorer with 24 runs. Wickets for all Australian bowlers whether its spinner or pacer, we can't say it's spinning track or for pacers. 32 runs scored by Pakistan new captain while babar Azam scored 35 runs.

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89 runs all out, another humiliating defeat by Pakistan in the first test match. The new captain has been ineffective both as a captain and as a batter. Babar Azam is struggling with his bad form from the world cup and I think he should have been rested. The same goes for Shaheen Afridi he is not bowling his best and should have been rested. In place of these two, new players could have been tested in this match. Sarfaraz, being the senior in this team, does not look good behind the wicket or in front of it. Another poor cricket by the Pakistan team, the new coach and the new captain should rethink what they wanted to accomplish in this test series against the best test playing team in the world.

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Quote from: MusaPk on December 17, 2023, 02:35:19 AM

Pakistan in hurry to finish the game today, they have lost 5 wickets and we still have 38 more overs to be bowled today. Poor batting performance by Pakistan in second innings. Only two batsmen able to make it to double figures so far. Now the only question left is whether Pakistan able to score 100 runs in second innings or they will be bowled out before that.

Pakistan player poor cricket they lost their 8 wickets in just score 83 runs in last session of the day 4. Australia need 2 more wickets to win this test match. Pakistani openers poor batting Abdullah Shafiq is score only 2 runs, imam ul haq are also scored only 10 runs. Pakistan test team captain shan masood is score just 2 and best bastmen babar Azam also didn't perform well. I think Australia bowling is outstanding in this test match especially Mitchell Starc amazing bowling picked 3 important wicktes in 2nd innings against Pakistan.

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Quote from: MusaPk on December 17, 2023, 02:35:19 AM

Pakistan in hurry to finish the game today, they have lost 5 wickets and we still have 38 more overs to be bowled today. Poor batting performance by Pakistan in second innings. Only two batsmen able to make it to double figures so far. Now the only question left is whether Pakistan able to score 100 runs in second innings or they will be bowled out before that.

Yes, they are in a hurry to finish the game today. Poor batting and bowling by Pakistan in this match not just batting. There star bowler and batter were not able to generate the desired result. They have been too defensive in the first innings and when they need to play defensive in the second innings they are losing wickets in quick succession. Already lost 6 wickets too early after they started they started thier batting. In this rate the match would end before time.

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Pakistan in hurry to finish the game today, they have lost 5 wickets and we still have 38 more overs to be bowled today. Poor batting performance by Pakistan in second innings. Only two batsmen able to make it to double figures so far. Now the only question left is whether Pakistan able to score 100 runs in second innings or they will be bowled out before that.

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Quote from: elevates on December 17, 2023, 02:18:31 AM

The way Pakistani wickets are falling it looks like Australia wants to end the game today. Second innings of Pakistan is even worst than the first, again the middle order struggling and this time the top order didn't work. The pitch is having uneven bounce which is helping the seam bowlers. Babar Azam again got out cheaply, it now depends on Shakeel and Sarfaraz to get thier partnership going.

This will become so true after the tea break Grin

. Babar Azam ended his game for the day at the tea break. The target is still very big, I don't think Sarfaraz Ahmed will be able to complete this target with the rest of the batsmen. I think the remaining 6 wickets will fall today too

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The way Pakistani wickets are falling it looks like Australia wants to end the game today. Second innings of Pakistan is even worst than the first, again the middle order struggling and this time the top order didn't work. The pitch is having uneven bounce which is helping the seam bowlers. Babar Azam again got out cheaply, it now depends on Shakeel and Sarfaraz to get thier partnership going.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 16, 2023, 10:19:33 AM

Pakistani fans should not be disappointed with these results in Australia. You guys are not alone, almost every visiting team gets the same treatment whenever they tour Australia.

Before Proteas used to win and compete against Australia in Australia, nowadays it's just India so according to traditions at one time, Aussie only allows one team to win or compete in Australia and everything is going according to plans, your time will also come.

Even we don't need to be panic about Pakistani cricketing fans but still I believe they were expecting results like these from this tour of Australia because these are nothing new as in past their strongest teams are also not able to win any match and this was really the weakest side which is having too many issues as well after the ODI world cup few groups are already involved for bringing each other down which is also tradition of this team in history as well.

But, good thing is happening they will found one or two good players which will give them better performance for sometime in near future their collapse in batting was also expecting because we all know how they are unpredictable, and mostly they faltered on pitches where opponents score huge runs easily so most chances Australia will try to have 450+ and then we will have Pakistan in action which will against faltered between 250 and 300 runs which are enough for them in fourth inning.

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Quote from: Bureau on December 17, 2023, 12:57:08 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 17, 2023, 12:26:59 AM

Pakistan needs to win this match, if Pakistan wins so they have two advantages of this win, one is Pakistan has never had a Test match in Australia and against Australia so the Pakistan team created a history that we never forget but this is a normal thing but second thing is crazy.

Do you still think that Pakistan has a chance to win the first test match? They have already lost one of their opener and the runs they need to chase to win is beyond 400. They have only one option and that is to draw the game, which looks like a distant dream as of now. They would need a big partnership with the attitude to only defend the ball and not go after the bowlers.

It is quite difficult to think about the possibility of Pakistan winning this match. Because they have already lost three batsmen of their top operators. They still need 425 runs and only seven wickets left. And the big thing is that I don't think Pakistan will be able to touch the target before the opponent team Australia, all their wickets will fall.

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The Pakistan team is batting in a desperation to meet their target on the fourth day against Australia. Due to this disappointing and bad batting performance of Pakistan team, today's match may not be even and Australia will win. Pakistan team has already lost three important wickets in the field which is not good news for Pakistan team, Pakistan team is yet to meet the first day target given by Australia. Saud Shakeel and Babar Azam are at the crease right now if they can hold on to the game then it is possible to score some runs and if they get out Pakistan team might be all out in no time. Australia's bowlers have been putting up an outstanding performance with Josh Hazlewood and Mitchell Starc both taking a total of three wickets. Due to the excellent bowling of these Australian bowlers, Pakistan team is not able to collect their runs and Pakistan still need to collect 424 runs to reach the target.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 17, 2023, 12:26:59 AM

Pakistan needs to win this match, if Pakistan wins so they have two advantages of this win, one is Pakistan has never had a Test match in Australia and against Australia so the Pakistan team created a history that we never forget but this is a normal thing but second thing is crazy.

Do you still think that Pakistan has a chance to win the first test match? They have already lost one of their opener and the runs they need to chase to win is beyond 400. They have only one option and that is to draw the game, which looks like a distant dream as of now. They would need a big partnership with the attitude to only defend the ball and not go after the bowlers.

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Quote from: synchronym on December 16, 2023, 08:49:48 PM

op I agree with you. Indeed Australia vs Pakistan first test match Australia looks much stronger than Pakistan. Australia batted brilliantly in the first innings giving Pakistan a huge lead in the first innings. Australia bowled brilliantly to bowl Pakistan out for just 271 runs. The Australian team went into bat in the second innings with David Warner dismissed for no runs, so the pressure was on for the Australian team. Australia lost 2 wickets for 84 runs in the second innings. Let's see how many runs Australia can give to Pakistan in lead the second innings.

Pakistan needs to win this match, if Pakistan wins so they have two advantages of this win, one is Pakistan has never had a Test match in Australia and against Australia so the Pakistan team created a history that we never forget but this is a normal thing but second thing is crazy.

Actually, I just saw the table for the World Test Championship that will end in 2025 and it has started in 2023 as you know, and what I see on that table is Pakistan is at the top on this table, Pakistan team played two matches and they also won two matches so if Pakistan wins this test match so Pakistan can maintain this.

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The pitch is looking spicy now, with lots of inconsistent bounce. Short balls reaching waist high, good length balls picking up and batters are getting hit.

Fair to say Australia already has 150 extra runs on this pitch. One of the Pakistani batters needs to do Pujara here, just pad up all his body with an arm guard and offer himself to Starc-Cumdog-Hazelwood.

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