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Today is the 3rd day of this test match, which is played in Perth and the teams who play this match are Tasminia and Western Australia. I think that this match cannot end with a result because three days were passed and the second innings was on play. I hope that the match ends with a result because I want to see the result of this test match, but the biggest chance is that the match will end without a result. If we look at the score so Western Australia trails by 120 scores. At this time, Tasminia can win the match because they play very well.
The way people used to think a decade ago, people have changed their thinking in this era. Where earlier a cricketer decided to retire between the ages of 30 and 35, some players are making their debuts between the ages of 30 and 32. I don't think age is a big factor in cricket, cricket is totally a game of your skill and talent. Age will never hold you back if you have enough cricketing talent and cricketing skills. All of them are above 30 years of age and are performing well in the current cricket world. It takes 30 to 32 years for many to find their consistency and bring out their best performance. I will never underestimate age. Age is a big factor for fast bowlers but age is not a factor for batsmen and spin bowlers.
Sachin Tendulkar made his test debut for India, when he was just 16 years old. Nowadays we don't find any teenagers getting inducted into the national teams directly. They usually play 5-6 years of first class cricket, before they are considered for the national team selection. Sometimes a player makes his debut while he is in his 20s. But usually, nowadays when a player is considered for national team selection, he will be most probably in his early 30s. And that means that he has only 7-8 years left in his career.
The way people used to think a decade ago, people have changed their thinking in this era. Where earlier a cricketer decided to retire between the ages of 30 and 35, some players are making their debuts between the ages of 30 and 32. I don't think age is a big factor in cricket, cricket is totally a game of your skill and talent. Age will never hold you back if you have enough cricketing talent and cricketing skills. All of them are above 30 years of age and are performing well in the current cricket world. It takes 30 to 32 years for many to find their consistency and bring out their best performance. I will never underestimate age. Age is a big factor for fast bowlers but age is not a factor for batsmen and spin bowlers.
Sachin Tendulkar made his test debut for India, when he was just 16 years old. Nowadays we don't find any teenagers getting inducted into the national teams directly. They usually play 5-6 years of first class cricket, before they are considered for the national team selection. Sometimes a player makes his debut while he is in his 20s. But usually, nowadays when a player is considered for national team selection, he will be most probably in his early 30s. And that means that he has only 7-8 years left in his career.
A decade or two ago, it was extremely rare to have international cricketers playing beyond 37-38 years of age. But now even players who are above 40 years of age are participating in international matches without any issues. I am not just talking about James Anderson, but also about other players such as Imran Tahir and Misbah-ul-Haq. Now players are able to maintain their fitness level for extended durations, despite very heavy workload. T20 has become more prominent at the expense of 4-day and 5-day cricket, and that maybe one of the reasons.
Decade ago we don't have t20 format nor present t20 leagues. With few exceptions still mostly players retire by 37 to 38 years of age bracket. A change which I saw in South Asia is that till 90s maximum age of debut is 22 to 24 years. Players who crosses that age bracket can rarely made it to international cricket but now players even in 30s are making international debut.
Test match is happening between South Australia and Tasmania. Jake Lehmann played very well and performer century for his country, he made 115 excellent runs by facing only 143 balls. Ben Manenti also performed very well, he scored 71 runs by using only 60 balls. In first inning, South Australia made 307 . Gabe Bell took 3 wickets and gave 68 runs and he passed 2 overs meiden. Jarrod took 2 wickets by giving 36 runs. Tasmania batter Caleb is playing very well and made brilliant 45 runs . Charlie Wakim also performing very well and his score is 36 and he is unbeatable. Brendon Doggett took 1 wicket.
Today is the second day of the test match which is played in between South Australia and New South Wales. South Australia played very well yesterday and today they are also playing like a superhero. They did 40 scores in just 11 overs. I know this is a bad score in T20 or ODI but in a Test match, this score is very good. Yesterday two innings were ended, which is impossible because in the test players do not play fast but in this test match both teams try to play fast. South Australia played very well yesterday and today. Jack Nisbet took one wicket today.
Test match is happening between South Australia and Tasmania. Jake Lehmann played very well and performer century for his country, he made 115 excellent runs by facing only 143 balls. Ben Manenti also performed very well, he scored 71 runs by using only 60 balls. In first inning, South Australia made 307 . Gabe Bell took 3 wickets and gave 68 runs and he passed 2 overs meiden. Jarrod took 2 wickets by giving 36 runs. Tasmania batter Caleb is playing very well and made brilliant 45 runs . Charlie Wakim also performing very well and his score is 36 and he is unbeatable. Brendon Doggett took 1 wicket.
Both county cricket in England and Sheffield Shield in Australia are ongoing at the moment. At least in county cricket, a sizable number of overseas players are taking part, including those from countries such as India and Sri Lanka. Now coming back to test cricket, the ICC World Test Championship 2023/25 will resume next month. New Zealand tour of Bangladesh will start on 28th November, with the first test match to be played in Dhaka. Then towards the end of this year, we have the test series between Pakistan and Australia (to be hosted by the latter).
Test match is happening between South Australia and Tasmania. Jake Lehmann played very well and performer century for his country, he made 115 excellent runs by facing only 143 balls. Ben Manenti also performed very well, he scored 71 runs by using only 60 balls. In first inning, South Australia made 307 . Gabe Bell took 3 wickets and gave 68 runs and he passed 2 overs meiden. Jarrod took 2 wickets by giving 36 runs. Tasmania batter Caleb is playing very well and made brilliant 45 runs . Charlie Wakim also performing very well and his score is 36 and he is unbeatable. Brendon Doggett took 1 wicket.
A decade or two ago, it was extremely rare to have international cricketers playing beyond 37-38 years of age. But now even players who are above 40 years of age are participating in international matches without any issues. I am not just talking about James Anderson, but also about other players such as Imran Tahir and Misbah-ul-Haq. Now players are able to maintain their fitness level for extended durations, despite very heavy workload. T20 has become more prominent at the expense of 4-day and 5-day cricket, and that maybe one of the reasons.
Decade ago we don't have t20 format nor present t20 leagues. With few exceptions still mostly players retire by 37 to 38 years of age bracket. A change which I saw in South Asia is that till 90s maximum age of debut is 22 to 24 years. Players who crosses that age bracket can rarely made it to international cricket but now players even in 30s are making international debut.
Some of the Indian players who made their debut recently were close to 30 years of age (examples are Mukesh Kumar and Thangarasu Natarajan). In India, the player pool is so deep that many of the players are getting a chance only after performing in domestic cricket consistently for up to 10 years. We will never get to witness someone in his teens making debut at international cricket ever again (Sachin Tendulkar made his debut when he was aged 16 years and 205 days). I don't even remember when was the last time I saw a teenager making his international debut.
A decade or two ago, it was extremely rare to have international cricketers playing beyond 37-38 years of age. But now even players who are above 40 years of age are participating in international matches without any issues. I am not just talking about James Anderson, but also about other players such as Imran Tahir and Misbah-ul-Haq. Now players are able to maintain their fitness level for extended durations, despite very heavy workload. T20 has become more prominent at the expense of 4-day and 5-day cricket, and that maybe one of the reasons.
Decade ago we don't have t20 format nor present t20 leagues. With few exceptions still mostly players retire by 37 to 38 years of age bracket. A change which I saw in South Asia is that till 90s maximum age of debut is 22 to 24 years. Players who crosses that age bracket can rarely made it to international cricket but now players even in 30s are making international debut.
I disagree. Achievements at any age matter. Just look at players like MSD, Anderson etc for example.
A decade or two ago, it was extremely rare to have international cricketers playing beyond 37-38 years of age. But now even players who are above 40 years of age are participating in international matches without any issues. I am not just talking about James Anderson, but also about other players such as Imran Tahir and Misbah-ul-Haq. Now players are able to maintain their fitness level for extended durations, despite very heavy workload. T20 has become more prominent at the expense of 4-day and 5-day cricket, and that maybe one of the reasons. Imran Tahir and Misbah are good but right now we have few players which are doing this all in franchise cricket which is good change but for the test format surely now it's going to be not easy just English players can do because they have good system which help them financially as well here in subcontinent it's never been ideal but good for the players those are in touch with franchise right now.
Inevitably, every player faces the constraint of optimizing their performance on the field. So a player is always going to try to get as much money as possible while he is playing well in his career. Let’s not forget that every player is playing professionally, this is their profession. They will have to think about money, and i do not have any problems with players, trying to get more money by playing franchisee leagues. Everyone has the freedom of choosing what they want to do in their career. And let’s just be honest, international cricket is never going to give as much money as franchisee cricket. So of course the players are going to choose franchisee cricket.
If a player is choosing to retire from international cricket so that we can perform and concentrate better in franchisee cricket, I don’t see any problem in that. The cricket board of that certain country might feel betrayed.
I disagree. Achievements at any age matter. Just look at players like MSD, Anderson etc for example.
A decade or two ago, it was extremely rare to have international cricketers playing beyond 37-38 years of age. But now even players who are above 40 years of age are participating in international matches without any issues. I am not just talking about James Anderson, but also about other players such as Imran Tahir and Misbah-ul-Haq. Now players are able to maintain their fitness level for extended durations, despite very heavy workload. T20 has become more prominent at the expense of 4-day and 5-day cricket, and that maybe one of the reasons. Imran Tahir and Misbah are good but right now we have few players which are doing this all in franchise cricket which is good change but for the test format surely now it's going to be not easy just English players can do because they have good system which help them financially as well here in subcontinent it's never been ideal but good for the players those are in touch with franchise right now.
But when a player is going to get more money from franchisee leagues, it is sad but true that he’s going to choose fantasy leagues instead of his national team.
Yeah. That is true. Achievements matter less when compared to money in every sport out there for majority of the athletes.I am not just talking about James Anderson, but also about other players such as Imran Tahir and Misbah-ul-Haq. Now players are able to maintain their fitness level for extended durations, despite very heavy workload. T20 has become more prominent at the expense of 4-day and 5-day cricket, and that maybe one of the reasons.
It all comes down to money at the end of the day. They are trying hard to stay fit in order to compete with the younger cricketers in order to continue earning money and acquire some achievements in the process. 
Well, obviously achievements are going to matter. But what I meant to say is that the player is not going to differentiate too much between personal achievement/club achievement and his achievement with national team. Except maybe for the World Cup. The World Cup is the one and only achievement that every player wants to have in his lifetime. But when a player is going to get more money from franchisee leagues, it is sad but true that he’s going to choose fantasy leagues instead of his national team.
Actually every players come to this stage to make money and for this he always look for better opportunity for long term. Many players who retired from international cricket still interested in playing leagues. Some players really love their country and they give priority to play for country team but some other factor hurt them like not having a good relationship with the selector, coach and captain. All big player earned a fame from international cricket and I agree with you that players should always give priority to international over all other high paying league.
I disagree. Achievements at any age matter. Just look at players like MSD, Anderson etc for example.
A decade or two ago, it was extremely rare to have international cricketers playing beyond 37-38 years of age. But now even players who are above 40 years of age are participating in international matches without any issues. I am not just talking about James Anderson, but also about other players such as Imran Tahir and Misbah-ul-Haq. Now players are able to maintain their fitness level for extended durations, despite very heavy workload. T20 has become more prominent at the expense of 4-day and 5-day cricket, and that maybe one of the reasons.
For almost every cricketer at a certain age, international achievement is basically going to be kind of worthless in my opinion.
I disagree. Achievements at any age matter. Just look at players like MSD, Anderson etc for example.Well, obviously achievements are going to matter. But what I meant to say is that the player is not going to differentiate too much between personal achievement/club achievement and his achievement with national team. Except maybe for the World Cup. The World Cup is the one and only achievement that every player wants to have in his lifetime. But when a player is going to get more money from franchisee leagues, it is sad but true that he’s going to choose fantasy leagues instead of his national team.
A cricketer doesn't get the facilities that a player gets in football. However, franchise T20 leagues have given cricketers a different feel in recent times. Although it is very little compared to football but it is not less as a cricketer due to which many players have started dreaming of targeting IPL.
You are generalising incorrectly. Cricketers in certain countries like India, Australia, England etc do get similar facilities like football players while cricketers from countries like West Indies, Sri Lanka etc don't get similar facilities.For almost every cricketer at a certain age, international achievement is basically going to be kind of worthless in my opinion.
I disagree. Achievements at any age matter. Just look at players like MSD, Anderson etc for example. T20 is the format every country will be focusing because of the monetary benefits and Test matches ICC wants to maintain the heritage, ODI is a longer format now a days compared to the ever thriller T20 and the focus is to phase of ODI bilateral matches and concentrate on T20 and Test matches and then conduct the ODI World Cup as usual.
ICC still gets a large part of the revenue from ODI World Cup. However, the T20 World Cup is becoming increasingly prominent now. Also, T20 World Cup is being conducted every 2 years, and the ODI World Cup occurs only once in 4 years. After the 2027 edition of the 50-over world cup, I am not sure about the future of this tournament. Apart from the world cup, ODIs are mostly being played as part of bilaterals. ICC has decided to shelve the ODI Super League and therefore outside the tournament bilaterals are going to be the only avenue for ODI cricket. And in revenue perspective, test cricket is not very beneficial for the ICC.
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Don’t honestly know what is going to be achieved by reducing the number of ODI matches and increasing the number of test and T-20 matches. I genuinely think that the popularity of ODI is far bigger compared to the popularity of test. And if they should reduce anything, they should do it with the test cricket format.
T20 is the format every country will be focusing because of the monetary benefits and Test matches ICC wants to maintain the heritage, ODI is a longer format now a days compared to the ever thriller T20 and the focus is to phase of ODI bilateral matches and concentrate on T20 and Test matches and then conduct the ODI World Cup as usual. Don’t honestly know what is going to be achieved by reducing the number of ODI matches and increasing the number of test and T-20 matches. I genuinely think that the popularity of ODI is far bigger compared to the popularity of test. And if they should reduce anything, they should do it with the test cricket format.
Playing franchisee T-20 leagues are obviously more beneficial for a player compared to playing for the national team. So of course, a player is going to choose to play in franchisee T-20 leagues. But of course that is going to put the national team in a big disadvantage. The New Zealand team is certainly a good one. But the recent achievements have not been great for them. Having a smaller population is certainly a disadvantage. But that cannot be an excuse. A First world country like New Zealand should be able to produce good players.
I know that there is a big difference between football and cricket. But cricket is definitely going towards the franchisee leagues right now. So it is certainly easier for the cricketers to play for franchisee and try to get as much money as possible. Obviously people are going to take a little time to get this thing normalized. But with the growing T-20 leagues in almost everywhere I think more players are going to make these types of demands to be honest. For almost every cricketer at a certain age, international achievement is basically going to be kind of worthless in my opinion.
New Zealand always give their 101% while playing against Australia. But they have to deal with a huge disadvantage in terms of smaller population and minuscule player pool. In recent times, New Zealand have been able to perform much better than what is expected from them, thanks to the large influx of players from South Africa. But now that advantage is being lost because some of their top players (Trent Boult for example) are refusing to play international matches, so that they can focus more on franchise T20 leagues.
New Zealand and South Africa are only teams that haven't won any world cup till date. Newzealand only had an ICC champions trophy to there name as major win while SA still to win any major icc tournament. Both these have tendency to play well and make it to finals or semis but they are not able to win any tournament. Both teams wait is getting longer and longer to win a major icc tournament.
Playing franchisee T-20 leagues are obviously more beneficial for a player compared to playing for the national team. So of course, a player is going to choose to play in franchisee T-20 leagues. But of course that is going to put the national team in a big disadvantage. The New Zealand team is certainly a good one. But the recent achievements have not been great for them. Having a smaller population is certainly a disadvantage. But that cannot be an excuse. A First world country like New Zealand should be able to produce good players.
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