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Quote from: pakhitheboss on December 05, 2021, 05:00:59 AM

That's not the point, this is about the new variant which is creating havoc in South Africa. The only thing we know it is very easily transferrable than the previous variant. We also do not know how effective are vaccines with this variant. If these things are considered then I also feel this series might get cancelled.

My friend when ipl was taking place in India almost 50k people were dying each day still nobody was bothered about that and you are supporting that point. It was postponed when voices from inside India rose up. That variant was also very deadly but everyone cares about money more then covid.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 04, 2021, 11:04:26 PM

I don't think that India will be able to tour South Africa. The COVID cases are exploding there and yesterday they reported more than 16,000 cases. One week ago, this was in the 2,000-3,000 range. Omicron is destroying South Africa, and I am sure that the situation will get worse in the coming days. I don't know what was Jay Shah smoking when he announced the tour. Even if the tour goes ahead as planned, many of the senior players are going to pull out. And no sporting activity is happening in RSA right now. Everything is stopped.

If whole world can play IPL when India is under severely affected by covid and daily deaths were in thousands then why can't India tour SA. They can play cricket there under the bio-bubble, fair enough ? But since SA is not a member of big 3 so we won't see any favour for them.

That's not the point, this is about the new variant which is creating havoc in South Africa. The only thing we know it is very easily transferrable than the previous variant. We also do not know how effective are vaccines with this variant. If these things are considered then I also feel this series might get cancelled.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on December 05, 2021, 02:22:21 AM

Recently we have very few draws because now after introduction of short formats now mostly batsmen playing some quick cricket and having better results, so this all is useless that we need Duckworth Lewis or anything others related to this please chill and enjoy second test which is completely controlled by India, and they will win in just three days.

Test matches these days always have a result these days and the main reason for this is T20. Most of the time players are busy playing T20 cricket and same form is carried in Test also. Test draw also has its own essence, see the first test which ends in a draw. It's a sort of victory for NZ.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 04, 2021, 05:12:42 PM

If there was no draw result in test cricket, we would clearly obtained a result(India winning in this case). India literally wrapped up the match, but these stupid archaic rules impeded their win.

Test matches clearly need a Duckworth Lewis type of system in order to minimise draws. Draw result should only be applied in the test format in specific situations(Weather related issues etc).

After reading your old posts I was feeling you are good aware about cricket rules but after reading this one now I am feeling you have no knowledge about this, or you are really upset with this result draw because these are not new rules all applying for all teams with same level so if this match end in draw then nothing new happen because we have many matches like this ends in draw even one team was superior to win and having some good advantages.

Recently we have very few draws because now after introduction of short formats now mostly batsmen playing some quick cricket and having better results, so this all is useless that we need Duckworth Lewis or anything others related to this please chill and enjoy second test which is completely controlled by India, and they will win in just three days.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 04, 2021, 11:04:26 PM

I don't think that India will be able to tour South Africa. The COVID cases are exploding there and yesterday they reported more than 16,000 cases. One week ago, this was in the 2,000-3,000 range. Omicron is destroying South Africa, and I am sure that the situation will get worse in the coming days. I don't know what was Jay Shah smoking when he announced the tour. Even if the tour goes ahead as planned, many of the senior players are going to pull out. And no sporting activity is happening in RSA right now. Everything is stopped.

If whole world can play IPL when India is under severely affected by covid and daily deaths were in thousands then why can't India tour SA. They can play cricket there under the bio-bubble, fair enough ? But since SA is not a member of big 3 so we won't see any favour for them.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 04, 2021, 11:04:26 PM

I don't think that India will be able to tour South Africa. The COVID cases are exploding there and yesterday they reported more than 16,000 cases. One week ago, this was in the 2,000-3,000 range. Omicron is destroying South Africa, and I am sure that the situation will get worse in the coming days. I don't know what was Jay Shah smoking when he announced the tour. Even if the tour goes ahead as planned, many of the senior players are going to pull out. And no sporting activity is happening in RSA right now. Everything is stopped.

India's tour of South Africa will get postponed. Two days back the new mutant have got spread over 30 countries. By then more countries have stopped major services. Japan is completely shut, because once affected it is quite hard to keep things under control. Once again the economic situation around will suffer, somehow the precaution and the safety measures of social distancing along with usage of masks keeps things in control than the previous.

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I don't think that India will be able to tour South Africa. The COVID cases are exploding there and yesterday they reported more than 16,000 cases. One week ago, this was in the 2,000-3,000 range. Omicron is destroying South Africa, and I am sure that the situation will get worse in the coming days. I don't know what was Jay Shah smoking when he announced the tour. Even if the tour goes ahead as planned, many of the senior players are going to pull out. And no sporting activity is happening in RSA right now. Everything is stopped.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 04, 2021, 06:50:40 PM

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Because the Indian batsmen are the best, when it comes to the handling of spin bowling.

Those days are gone when Indian batter used to tackle likes of Warne and Murli with a toothpick. This current lot of Indian team is not equipped to play spin except few exceptions, they are still very good compared to other countries tho but previous Indian team which includes Sachin-Sehwag-Ganguly-Dravid-Laxman-Yuvi-Gambhir etc were exceptional players of spin.

Just imagine if opposition team had a equally capable spinners like Ashwin-Jadeja-Axar or even batting against this trio.

Quote from: eaLiTy on December 04, 2021, 05:24:01 PM

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I am expecting the match to be over by tomorrow unless the Indian players wanted to bat for a much longer period of time.

Happy for Ajaz Patel but equally disappointing that his team marked the lowest total against Indians at the same match.

Good news, its official.

This series might get cancelled considering the present pandemic situation is SA. NZ-IND test series is completely one-sided now with India having a lead of 332 it won't be possible for NZ to chase a target which I think will be over 400 runs. Indian bowlers were very efficient as they wiped out NZ for just 62.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 04, 2021, 09:12:38 AM

Because the Indian batsmen are the best, when it comes to the handling of spin bowling.

Those days are gone when Indian batter used to tackle likes of Warne and Murli with a toothpick. This current lot of Indian team is not equipped to play spin except few exceptions, they are still very good compared to other countries tho but previous Indian team which includes Sachin-Sehwag-Ganguly-Dravid-Laxman-Yuvi-Gambhir etc were exceptional players of spin.

Just imagine if opposition team had a equally capable spinners like Ashwin-Jadeja-Axar or even batting against this trio.

Quote from: eaLiTy on December 04, 2021, 05:24:01 PM

~snip~

I am expecting the match to be over by tomorrow unless the Indian players wanted to bat for a much longer period of time.

Happy for Ajaz Patel but equally disappointing that his team marked the lowest total against Indians at the same match.

Good news, its official.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 04, 2021, 05:24:01 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on December 03, 2021, 06:51:52 PM

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Double ton for Mayank? He likes to score big when he's on song. Already 2 double tons under his belt, for opening slot competition is becoming headache for the selectors.

Mayank Agarwal is the only player who was able to play well in this pitch while all of the other batsman struggled and it is a spin wicket and full credits to Ajaz Patel for creating history by becoming the third player to take 10 wickets in a match and he basically took the wickets for New Zealand but he bowled in a ground that it is his home town as Ajaz Patel is born in Mumbai but that could not help New Zealand as they were all out for double digits.

I am expecting the match to be over by tomorrow unless the Indian players wanted to bat for a much longer period of time.

Very exciting end of second day as Ajaz Patel creating history and just after few overs we have another milestone by Indian bowling attack with restrict to New Zealand for 62 runs which is low by any team in India. Now after this clearly they are going to win this match and series with very good way after having draw in first test match at Kanpur which was also very controlled by Indian bowling line but sadly end in draw just because of bad light.
In other test match Bangladesh vs Pakistan rain dominate in first day of play with just 57 overs possible and Pakistan having some good score on board after losing both openers and having Babar and Azhar on cease.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 03, 2021, 06:51:52 PM

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Double ton for Mayank? He likes to score big when he's on song. Already 2 double tons under his belt, for opening slot competition is becoming headache for the selectors.

Mayank Agarwal is the only player who was able to play well in this pitch while all of the other batsman struggled and it is a spin wicket and full credits to Ajaz Patel for creating history by becoming the third player to take 10 wickets in a match and he basically took the wickets for New Zealand but he bowled in a ground that it is his home town as Ajaz Patel is born in Mumbai but that could not help New Zealand as they were all out for double digits.

I am expecting the match to be over by tomorrow unless the Indian players wanted to bat for a much longer period of time.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on December 04, 2021, 03:49:21 PM

BTW, the first match wasn't drawn for the rules of ICC only. India had huge opportunity to win the match but their bowlers were unable to take the last wicket.

I disagree. If there was no draw result in test cricket, we would clearly obtained a result(India winning in this case). India literally wrapped up the match, but these stupid archaic rules impeded their win.

Test matches clearly need a Duckworth Lewis type of system in order to minimise draws. Draw result should only be applied in the test format in specific situations(Weather related issues etc).

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on December 04, 2021, 03:49:21 PM

Ajaz Patel repeated the history after 22 years and it will always be remembered. But New Zealand players batted pathetically today. NZ will surely loss this match. It doesn't feel good when a player make a record and loss the match. BTW, the first match wasn't drawn for the rules of ICC only. India had huge opportunity to win the match but their bowlers were unable to take the last wicket.

If Ajaz Patel can take 10 wickets on this surface then surely Indian Spinners can do much better, and they have done with their magical spells and have some good support from pacer Mohammad Siraj; New Zealand having some good time in record books first with third person in test history who claim 10 wickets in an inning of test match and after this now bowled out for just 62 runs which is the lowest by any visitor on Indian soil.

Now this test match is going to end on third day because India already having 322 plus lead, and they need only very few more runs on this surface where ball is unplayable for kiwis, so good win for India against WTC winners.
Now after this test they are heading for South Africa in crucial situation but still BCCI having good faith in relationship with South African Cricket Board, let's watch what happen.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 04, 2021, 11:11:02 AM

Ajaz Patel bowled brilliantly and he deserved the 10 wicket haul. The manner in which he bamboozled batsmen like Pujara, Ashwin etc was magnificent. It's been a long time since someone claimed 10 wickets in a Cricket match.
but the actual result should have been 2:0 thanks to stupid ICC rules.

Ajaz Patel repeated the history after 22 years and it will always be remembered. But New Zealand players batted pathetically today. NZ will surely loss this match. It doesn't feel good when a player make a record and loss the match. BTW, the first match wasn't drawn for the rules of ICC only. India had huge opportunity to win the match but their bowlers were unable to take the last wicket.

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Quote from: og kush420 on December 04, 2021, 01:58:54 PM

This will be NZ lowest score in an innings AFAIK.

Nope. The lowest score is 26 against England in 1955 (second innings of Auckland test). England fast bowlers (Frank Tyson and Brian Statham) destroyed the top order and then medium pacer Bob Appleyard cleaned up the lower order and tail. Anyway, 62 is the lowest test total by any team against India. Previously the lowest total by New Zealand against India was 94 (first innings of the Hamilton test, 2002). And the fun fact is that New Zealand still won that test, by 4 wickets (target was 160 in the second innings).

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on December 04, 2021, 11:47:39 AM

It is really a great feeling for a bowler to pick up all the ten wickets in an innings and Ajaz Patel will be very happy to be able to achieve that. But the problem is New Zealand getting all out for only 62 runs. At the end of day two, it's already the third innings of the match and India already has the 332 runs lead. I am sure that they are going to post a massive total and try to get the win.

Two stunning performances on second day of second test. First Ajaz Patel made a historic record by taking all 10 wickets in a single innings. Right after that there is stunning bowling performance from Indian bowlers that restricted whole NZ team in two figures. This will be NZ lowest score in an innings AFAIK.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 04, 2021, 11:11:02 AM

Ajaz Patel bowled brilliantly and he deserved the 10 wicket haul. The manner in which he bamboozled batsmen like Pujara, Ashwin etc was magnificent. It's been a long time since someone claimed 10 wickets in a Cricket match.

However, the manner in which the India bowlers destroyed the NZ batting lineup was even more spectacular. India will win this test series by 1:0, but the actual result should have been 2:0 thanks to stupid ICC rules.

Patel brillent bowling was ruined by NZ batting. Don't know what happen to them to bowl out at such low score. Anyways India is very much favorite now, they are 325 runs ahead and still 10 wickets in hands. They can easily give target of 500 runs. Never knew about this ICC rule of 2-0

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Quote from: onecall123 on December 04, 2021, 11:13:08 AM

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Ajaz is originally from Mumbai, so he is very familiar with the ground conditions at the Wankhede Stadium. But I never expected him to perform like this against the Indians. Because the Indian batsmen are the best, when it comes to the handling of spin bowling. Anyway, the match is firmly within India's grasp. Unless there is a miracle, New Zealand is going down by a huge margin. Their batting performance was just pathetic. Kyle Jamieson top-scored with 17, as they were bundled out in just 28 overs.

For Ajaz Patel, it is history as he picks up all 10 wickets in one innings. This is an amazing achievement for such a young bowler. Mumbai was his birthplace, and he carried a dream to play there, and now that dream has now become history. There was a lot of action on Day 2 in Mumbai and India remain on top. I really enjoyed today's test match. The better thing is that India comfortably scored 69 without losing after wrapping up New Zealand for 62 runs.

It is really a great feeling for a bowler to pick up all the ten wickets in an innings and Ajaz Patel will be very happy to be able to achieve that. But the problem is New Zealand getting all out for only 62 runs. At the end of day two, it's already the third innings of the match and India already has the 332 runs lead. I am sure that they are going to post a massive total and try to get the win.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 04, 2021, 09:12:38 AM

Ajaz is originally from Mumbai, so he is very familiar with the ground conditions at the Wankhede Stadium. But I never expected him to perform like this against the Indians. Because the Indian batsmen are the best, when it comes to the handling of spin bowling. Anyway, the match is firmly within India's grasp. Unless there is a miracle, New Zealand is going down by a huge margin. Their batting performance was just pathetic. Kyle Jamieson top-scored with 17, as they were bundled out in just 28 overs.

For Ajaz Patel, it is history as he picks up all 10 wickets in one innings. This is an amazing achievement for such a young bowler. Mumbai was his birthplace, and he carried a dream to play there, and now that dream has now become history. There was a lot of action on Day 2 in Mumbai and India remain on top. I really enjoyed today's test match. The better thing is that India comfortably scored 69 without losing after wrapping up New Zealand for 62 runs.

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Ajaz Patel bowled brilliantly and he deserved the 10 wicket haul. The manner in which he bamboozled batsmen like Pujara, Ashwin etc was magnificent. It's been a long time since someone claimed 10 wickets in a Cricket match.

However, the manner in which the India bowlers destroyed the NZ batting lineup was even more spectacular. India will win this test series by 1:0, but the actual result should have been 2:0 thanks to stupid ICC rules.

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