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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 14, 2022, 03:58:19 AM

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No more panic for South Africa as they will easily cruise to victory tomorrow. I already told that era of Indian cricket dominance will slowly come to an end the after their poor performance in the T2 world cup and now you can see the results.
I don't know why the Indian fans are against Virat Kohli ? He is not alone responsible for this defeat, it is the BCCI which needs to be blamed and boycott.

I cannot blame BCCI for India's poor performance. Which player of the Indian squad can you keep out of the squad? Every player on the team is talented enough. They have proved their mettle in the Indian team. Now the players are not in form, is BCCI responsible for this? The condition of the Indian team is bad now due to the poor performance of the batsmen.
The BCCI can now keep these players out of the team for a while and give new players a chance. Since they have not been in form for a long time. Besides, I don't think BCCI has anything else to do.

This series was a big blow to India's stake for sure. In first test they played like they have no competition and in rest of two they played as if they can't give competition. I think team India has faced such bad phases for a lot of times now already, suddenly all the best players go out of form and then BCCI brings in some new players from the bench who play really well but then the older folks come back in form to fill the slots, a few are able to get back their slots while rest are dropped. But India as a team does comes out of this phase. Anyone who is saying India's dominance is going to end hasn't seen the upcoming talent pool of India and the U-19, U-17 cricket tournaments in India.

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I cannot blame BCCI for India's poor performance. Which player of the Indian squad can you keep out of the squad? Every player on the team is talented enough. They have proved their mettle in the Indian team. Now the players are not in form, is BCCI responsible for this? The condition of the Indian team is bad now due to the poor performance of the batsmen.
The BCCI can now keep these players out of the team for a while and give new players a chance. Since they have not been in form for a long time. Besides, I don't think BCCI has anything else to do.

Yes, the board has little to do with the bad performance of the team. they can only change the captain or the few players but they can't change everyone and develop a new team. This action would be even worse. Instead of focusing on changing the talented players, the board should focus on their training and listen to them to find the hurdle as why they are unable to keep up with the form. It could be lot of cricket being played which could be the burden on them or condition / environment of South Africa does not suit them.

You are right, the board should find out why the players are not playing well. Take necessary steps to motivate the players more. Players need to be more confident. India can now host a series against a weaker team like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh. Against these teams, players may be able to return to form. And with the players back in form, India's drought of performance may be over.

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Lord Thakur gave much needed breakthrough but i'm afraid its a lost cause now. We had our chances guys.

India had hard luck in this match. They had some chances in the 2nd innings but when luck is not with you, half chances won't get availed.
One example was when Dean Elgar LBW was reviewed and he survived. It was a bit controversial decision. I am not defending Indian defeat, they did not play up to the mark but there were some bad lucks too.

Main problem is with batting all team out on 198 with Pant is going with 100 is really matter of shame for them now it's good time for having few changes in near future because Pujara and Rahane both fail in last year and now again here mean now it's time for giving them some rest from big matches and bring new blood for better future. In this match 212 was not good target and then having issues with DRS and fielding are also causes for defeat, but now it's all end with another poor note so time for better planning and having some good and fruitful changes for future games because its crucial time if they fail to bring some better replacement then surely they can face some more trouble for some more time with is not acceptable at this level.

Throughout the series, we have seen India's weak batting. Fans always have high expectations from star players like them. But since the T20 World Cup, India's performance has been deteriorating. The players have not yet returned to the truck.
Now the Indian team management should make some difficult decisions. Players who are out of form should be kept out of the team for a specified period of time. New talented players need to be given a chance. Players who have lost form need to try harder to get back on track.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 14, 2022, 03:04:07 AM

Virat has proven from tint to time that he is an immature captain and this incident again proves the same. I feel he could have been better if he could have chat with KL Rahul and Ashwin personally rather ranting out his displeasure on the stump mic. This why he is being chucked out as a captain from test cricket.

Interestingly Saeed Ajmal said same for Sachin Tendulkar lbw decision in 2011 WC semifinal but in polite manner. At that time indian media made fun of him. Now same happened with India and see how there captain reacted, poor sportsman spirit from Indian captain. I wonder if ICC will take any disciplinary action against Virat?

Dean Elgar’s DRS gaffe compared to Sachin Tendulkar’s controversy in 2011 World Cup

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on January 14, 2022, 11:52:52 AM

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Lord Thakur gave much needed breakthrough but i'm afraid its a lost cause now. We had our chances guys.

India had hard luck in this match. They had some chances in the 2nd innings but when luck is not with you, half chances won't get availed.
One example was when Dean Elgar LBW was reviewed and he survived. It was a bit controversial decision. I am not defending Indian defeat, they did not play up to the mark but there were some bad lucks too.

Main problem is with batting all team out on 198 with Pant is going with 100 is really matter of shame for them now it's good time for having few changes in near future because Pujara and Rahane both fail in last year and now again here mean now it's time for giving them some rest from big matches and bring new blood for better future. In this match 212 was not good target and then having issues with DRS and fielding are also causes for defeat, but now it's all end with another poor note so time for better planning and having some good and fruitful changes for future games because its crucial time if they fail to bring some better replacement then surely they can face some more trouble for some more time with is not acceptable at this level.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 14, 2022, 04:52:39 AM

Lord Thakur gave much needed breakthrough but i'm afraid its a lost cause now. We had our chances guys.

India had hard luck in this match. They had some chances in the 2nd innings but when luck is not with you, half chances won't get availed.
One example was when Dean Elgar LBW was reviewed and he survived. It was a bit controversial decision. I am not defending Indian defeat, they did not play up to the mark but there were some bad lucks too.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 14, 2022, 04:52:39 AM

I guess this is a last series for Pujara and Rahane, not expecting them to get another chance in home season at all or may be bring Pujara back when we're travelling Australia but i doubt if there is any series planned for next couple of years.

Lord Thakur gave much needed breakthrough but i'm afraid its a lost cause now. We had our chances guys.

Rahane specially has been abysmal in this series and I wouldn't say that Pujara did a whole lot. He scored 44 in the first innings but was in shambles in the 2nd. Rahane had been a good batsman for tests in the past and so was Pujara but I think that they have left their good times way back in the past.

If I'm not wrong Pujara has better stats abroad? So maybe give him a chance or two while India plays abroad but other than that, I think it's time to look for more options..India has some great batsmen maybe the younger players should be given chance.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 14, 2022, 04:52:39 AM

I guess this is a last series for Pujara and Rahane, not expecting them to get another chance in home season at all or may be bring Pujara back when we're travelling Australia but i doubt if there is any series planned for next couple of years.

Lord Thakur gave much needed breakthrough but i'm afraid its a lost cause now. We had our chances guys.

SA need 41 more runs with 7 wickets in hands and that very much tells the story. Before the series everyone was predicting that India will win this series very easily but it went other way around. Because IPL was not happening now all SA key players are in the team which turn the table around. India will have to wait more to win a Test series in SA.

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Australia VS England

Team England decided to field after winning the toss. And at the beginning of the day they were able to pick up 3 valuable wickets with just 12 runs. Warner was out for 0 off 22 balls. Usman Khawaja was out for 6 and Smith was out for zero. Now Labuschange and Head are at the crease. Their partnership is 67 runs. The funny thing is that Australia collected 66 runs in the last 10 overs. Travis Head scored 27 runs off 24 balls. His striker rate is 112.5.

Thats the beauty of Australia that they have rescue players at all level. Good news for England is that Marnus Labuschagne was bowled by Broad and not at dinner Aus are 85/4. If England can get remaining 6 wickets under 200 then England will be in good position, I still have feeling that Aus can mange 250 from here on.

After losing 3 wickets for just 12 runs, I thought maybe England would rule and win this match after poor performance in previous matches. But the scenario of the match is completely different now. Australia collected 231 runs, they lost 5 wickets. Cameroon Green is still at the crease with 70 runs. Australia has already collected enough runs to fight. If they can collect more than 320 runs, then I think Australia will win this match as well.

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I guess this is a last series for Pujara and Rahane, not expecting them to get another chance in home season at all or may be bring Pujara back when we're travelling Australia but i doubt if there is any series planned for next couple of years.

Lord Thakur gave much needed breakthrough but i'm afraid its a lost cause now. We had our chances guys.

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It is now almost certain that India is going to be defeated. South Africa collected 148 runs. And they have not lost any more wickets today. They need only 64 runs to win.
However, India lost because of their irregular performances. I would say that such a decline in their performance is due to the weak top order. Top-order players are not in form. We didn't see any good innings from Rahul and Agarwal. The Indian bowlers did well in the first innings but failed in the second innings.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 14, 2022, 03:58:19 AM

I cannot blame BCCI for India's poor performance. Which player of the Indian squad can you keep out of the squad? Every player on the team is talented enough. They have proved their mettle in the Indian team. Now the players are not in form, is BCCI responsible for this? The condition of the Indian team is bad now due to the poor performance of the batsmen.
The BCCI can now keep these players out of the team for a while and give new players a chance. Since they have not been in form for a long time. Besides, I don't think BCCI has anything else to do.

Yes, the board has little to do with the bad performance of the team. they can only change the captain or the few players but they can't change everyone and develop a new team. This action would be even worse. Instead of focusing on changing the talented players, the board should focus on their training and listen to them to find the hurdle as why they are unable to keep up with the form. It could be lot of cricket being played which could be the burden on them or condition / environment of South Africa does not suit them.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 14, 2022, 03:25:40 AM

No more panic for South Africa as they will easily cruise to victory tomorrow. I already told that era of Indian cricket dominance will slowly come to an end the after their poor performance in the T2 world cup and now you can see the results.
I don't know why the Indian fans are against Virat Kohli ? He is not alone responsible for this defeat, it is the BCCI which needs to be blamed and boycott.

I cannot blame BCCI for India's poor performance. Which player of the Indian squad can you keep out of the squad? Every player on the team is talented enough. They have proved their mettle in the Indian team. Now the players are not in form, is BCCI responsible for this? The condition of the Indian team is bad now due to the poor performance of the batsmen.
The BCCI can now keep these players out of the team for a while and give new players a chance. Since they have not been in form for a long time. Besides, I don't think BCCI has anything else to do.

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Last day, everyone was saying that the wicket was not good and hence the batsmen were unable to score. Well, its not true as south Africans are batting pretty well on this pitch and they are close to another upset. If south Africa did not panic from here onwards, they will win the test series against India.
India were favorite at the beginning of the series. Who would have thought or predicted this result before the start of the series?

SA are in good position to win the match though we cant rule out India completely, as one to two early wickets will defiantly make SA go panic. Kohli is defiantly getting frustrated after losing his captaincy and at the verge of losing Test series with SA. 'Whole country against 11 guys' - Rahul, Kohli and others direct anger at broadcaster after DRS saves Elgar.

No more panic for South Africa as they will easily cruise to victory tomorrow. I already told that era of Indian cricket dominance will slowly come to an end the after their poor performance in the T2 world cup and now you can see the results.
I don't know why the Indian fans are against Virat Kohli ? He is not alone responsible for this defeat, it is the BCCI which needs to be blamed and boycott.

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Quote from: galambo on January 14, 2022, 02:08:04 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on January 14, 2022, 02:02:19 AM

Last day, everyone was saying that the wicket was not good and hence the batsmen were unable to score. Well, its not true as south Africans are batting pretty well on this pitch and they are close to another upset. If south Africa did not panic from here onwards, they will win the test series against India.
India were favorite at the beginning of the series. Who would have thought or predicted this result before the start of the series?

SA are in good position to win the match though we cant rule out India completely, as one to two early wickets will defiantly make SA go panic. Kohli is defiantly getting frustrated after losing his captaincy and at the verge of losing Test series with SA. 'Whole country against 11 guys' - Rahul, Kohli and others direct anger at broadcaster after DRS saves Elgar.

Virat has proven from tint to time that he is an immature captain and this incident again proves the same. I feel he could have been better if he could have chat with KL Rahul and Ashwin personally rather ranting out his displeasure on the stump mic. This why he is being chucked out as a captain from test cricket.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on January 14, 2022, 02:02:19 AM

Last day, everyone was saying that the wicket was not good and hence the batsmen were unable to score. Well, its not true as south Africans are batting pretty well on this pitch and they are close to another upset. If south Africa did not panic from here onwards, they will win the test series against India.
India were favorite at the beginning of the series. Who would have thought or predicted this result before the start of the series?

SA are in good position to win the match though we cant rule out India completely, as one to two early wickets will defiantly make SA go panic. Kohli is defiantly getting frustrated after losing his captaincy and at the verge of losing Test series with SA. 'Whole country against 11 guys' - Rahul, Kohli and others direct anger at broadcaster after DRS saves Elgar.

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The sudden Indian batting collapse surprised me. Pant was playing well after a long time, but no one could support him properly. The South African bowlers were on fire and they deserve a lot of praise for putting India on the backfoot.

India still has a decent chance at winning this test as long as they remove the in-form SA batsmen quickly. I wouldn't count them out just yet.

I think this is a lost affair now for India, SA just need 98 runs and they have full day, they can bat very defensively without taking any sort of risk and could easily score the remaining runs, early-stage wickets were the only thing that could save india but they didn't happen, india would definitely be looking at a radical change in their batting line up post this series.

India can only win if Indian bowlers can bowl them out, which I doubt is possible now. If Panth had not scored his hundred then South Africa could have won the match yesterday itself. The team management needs to remove Pujara, he has been consistently giving his best of 9 runs in every match. There are plenty others who can perform better than him.

Although Panth reached 100 so quickly, if he hadn't done so, India was likely to lose its match yesterday. While other Indian batters should have scored more runs and concentrated less on showing frustration on the field, they should have focused more on the batting. A number of players have been out of form for quite a long time, so things need to be taken seriously. SA needs 111 more runs to win, with 8 wickets remaining. I see a clear victory for SA.

Last day, everyone was saying that the wicket was not good and hence the batsmen were unable to score. Well, its not true as south Africans are batting pretty well on this pitch and they are close to another upset. If south Africa did not panic from here onwards, they will win the test series against India.
India were favorite at the beginning of the series. Who would have thought or predicted this result before the start of the series?

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 14, 2022, 01:21:37 AM

Australia VS England

Team England decided to field after winning the toss. And at the beginning of the day they were able to pick up 3 valuable wickets with just 12 runs. Warner was out for 0 off 22 balls. Usman Khawaja was out for 6 and Smith was out for zero. Now Labuschange and Head are at the crease. Their partnership is 67 runs. The funny thing is that Australia collected 66 runs in the last 10 overs. Travis Head scored 27 runs off 24 balls. His striker rate is 112.5.

Thats the beauty of Australia that they have rescue players at all level. Good news for England is that Marnus Labuschagne was bowled by Broad and not at dinner Aus are 85/4. If England can get remaining 6 wickets under 200 then England will be in good position, I still have feeling that Aus can mange 250 from here on.

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Australia VS England

Team England decided to field after winning the toss. And at the beginning of the day they were able to pick up 3 valuable wickets with just 12 runs. Warner was out for 0 off 22 balls. Usman Khawaja was out for 6 and Smith was out for zero. Now Labuschange and Head are at the crease. Their partnership is 67 runs. The funny thing is that Australia collected 66 runs in the last 10 overs. Travis Head scored 27 runs off 24 balls. His striker rate is 112.5.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 13, 2022, 09:19:02 PM

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 13, 2022, 02:29:13 PM

The sudden Indian batting collapse surprised me. Pant was playing well after a long time, but no one could support him properly. The South African bowlers were on fire and they deserve a lot of praise for putting India on the backfoot.

India still has a decent chance at winning this test as long as they remove the in-form SA batsmen quickly. I wouldn't count them out just yet.

I think this is a lost affair now for India, SA just need 98 runs and they have full day, they can bat very defensively without taking any sort of risk and could easily score the remaining runs, early-stage wickets were the only thing that could save india but they didn't happen, india would definitely be looking at a radical change in their batting line up post this series.

India can only win if Indian bowlers can bowl them out, which I doubt is possible now. If Panth had not scored his hundred then South Africa could have won the match yesterday itself. The team management needs to remove Pujara, he has been consistently giving his best of 9 runs in every match. There are plenty others who can perform better than him.

Although Panth reached 100 so quickly, if he hadn't done so, India was likely to lose its match yesterday. While other Indian batters should have scored more runs and concentrated less on showing frustration on the field, they should have focused more on the batting. A number of players have been out of form for quite a long time, so things need to be taken seriously. SA needs 111 more runs to win, with 8 wickets remaining. I see a clear victory for SA.

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