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Now it's too late to discuss the warmup matches and why England did not opt for them. I do think that the England team, after this loss, will come back strong in the second test. They have the players and talent to turn the tables, therefore Australians can't relax and take things for granted even though they have won the first match.
Recently we have no warm-up matches due to some busy schedule and Covid both having serious impact on them, and we have very few warm-up matches or just practices nothing good happening which is seriously hurting to many players. After lost of first test match now I still have feeling England is just one man army, and they can't compete with Australia with current squad because no player can bat good just few bowlers have some good experience but batting line is totally crap, so they need some long term planning for this if they want some better results in near future.

Cummins has done some good in his first test as skipper look like he is going to stay on this job for some time because CA is not happy about Steven Smith came again as captain.
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England is facing a nightmare. For maintaining slow over-rates in the first Ashes Test in Brisbane, England has been docked five points in the World Test Championship and fined 100% of their match fees. On day 2, they only bowled 84 overs whereas they were supposed to bowl 98, which put them 10 overs behind the over rate. However, 100% of their match fees for slow overate, when the match ended so early? All these decisions are not acceptable to me, some rules need to be corrected. There are a lot of poor decisions going on with the game in general, and the game is losing its luster.
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Haha yeah for like 30-40 minutes. Fox sports feed went poof and everyone suffered. It was hilarious tho, literally felt like i was watching county cricket or some other local league.  

Even when they resumed the coverage, it was not the usual stuff. I don't really understand the point in reducing the number of passes allotted to the TV staff, giving the excuse of COVID protocols. They can reduce the number of viewers, but how can they reduce the number of technical staff? Even after two years, it is really irritating to see at least some of the countries engaging in this sort of restrictions. And I guess in Australia the vast majority of the adult population are already vaccinated.
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Excellent batting display from the England, mammoth target of 20 runs. Australia is in big trouble.  Grin

LOL... Before the start of the series, 90% of the users here were saying that England is going to whitewash Australia. And look at what happened. Australia very nearly pulled off an innings victory. BTW, I haven't seen too many posts congratulating Pat Cummins. We can't ignore his contribution here (both as the captain, and as the opening bowler). He made his test debut 10 years ago, at the age of 18 years. And this is very rare in Australia, where the selectors normally doesn't consider players for national team selection until they are 21-22 at least. And I guess he was the last teenager to make debut for them.

England batting again collapsed in the 2nd innings. When Dawid Malan and Joe Root were batting at 80+ each I thought they could turn the game around for England, but none of the remaining England batsmen were able to show any big performances and Australia easily won this test match.
Yes I was expecting that england will give a tough fight to Australia and may be try to force a draw atleast take it to the day 5 of the test match but again they collapsed. With only 55 lead left and 8 wickets in hand they had a good chance to give about 150 to australia and take it the 5th day of the test Match. England have alot to worry about specially in batting department. Their opening partnership needs to come good most importantly.
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Hardly anyone in this thread follow test cricket or even remember last 5 tests so i don't blame them for predicting anything. Other than this thread i didn't find any discussion where majority were favoring the Poms, even their die hard fans. All discussion was about whitewash by Aussie or outcome of rotation policy in the Ashes, which started last year or so.
I never expected a whitewash by either side though my prediction is that England will win this series though I didn't expect Australia to demolish them in the 1st test in this manner. Australia is improving drastically in all formats currently.

England need to rethink their strategies if they wish to shift the momentum back in their favour in this series.
Yeah whitewash sounds overstretched as couple of matches are D/N and anything could happen in Pink Ball tests. Anderson-Broad duo will join the team for sure then it should be a excellent contest.

Btw their batters are in terrible form.

https://twitter.com/cricbuzz/status/1469627768916774913

Australian stadiums are majestic, crowd is good and coverage is average. Recent coverage of Gabba felt like its went back to 2000s, No ball drama, equipment failure or take today's example where they covered good amount of overs with only 1 camera. On commentary every broadcaster should ban Warne and Junior without any explanation, they give ear cancer to the listener.  

LOL.. I heard there was power outage? Also, as per the COVID protocol, TV staff were cut down by 75%. This delayed the resumption of TV coverage. Ashes is being watched by hundreds of millions around the world (a large chunk of that number being in the sub-continent). Watching the matches from Australia live on TV is another experience altogether. I still remember watching Brett Lee and Glenn McGrath steaming in two decades ago, when I was still in school. It was more stimulating than my morning coffee.
Haha yeah for like 30-40 minutes. Fox sports feed went poof and everyone suffered. It was hilarious tho, literally felt like i was watching county cricket or some other local league.  
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Australian stadiums are majestic, crowd is good and coverage is average. Recent coverage of Gabba felt like its went back to 2000s, No ball drama, equipment failure or take today's example where they covered good amount of overs with only 1 camera. On commentary every broadcaster should ban Warne and Junior without any explanation, they give ear cancer to the listener.  

LOL.. I heard there was power outage? Also, as per the COVID protocol, TV staff were cut down by 75%. This delayed the resumption of TV coverage. Ashes is being watched by hundreds of millions around the world (a large chunk of that number being in the sub-continent). Watching the matches from Australia live on TV is another experience altogether. I still remember watching Brett Lee and Glenn McGrath steaming in two decades ago, when I was still in school. It was more stimulating than my morning coffee.
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Excellent batting display from the England, mammoth target of 20 runs. Australia is in big trouble.  Grin

LOL... Before the start of the series, 90% of the users here were saying that England is going to whitewash Australia. And look at what happened. Australia very nearly pulled off an innings victory. BTW, I haven't seen too many posts congratulating Pat Cummins. We can't ignore his contribution here (both as the captain, and as the opening bowler). He made his test debut 10 years ago, at the age of 18 years. And this is very rare in Australia, where the selectors normally doesn't consider players for national team selection until they are 21-22 at least. And I guess he was the last teenager to make debut for them.
Hardly anyone in this thread follow test cricket or even remember last 5 tests so i don't blame them for predicting anything. Other than this thread i didn't find any discussion where majority were favoring the Poms, even their die hard fans. All discussion was about whitewash by Aussie or outcome of rotation policy in the Ashes, which started last year or so.


Not true as I have been following the test cricket for quite some time and I am a die hard fan of cricket also  Wink
From 1989 to 2003, Australia consecutively won the 8 Ashes which is a big record. No doubt, Aussies were the best team in that era. From 2009 to 2013, England dominated the Ashes with three consecutive wins. Then the race was very even as each team wins alternatively till 2019 when we had a 2-2 draw in the Ashes.
Thereafter the covid hit us and along with many other tournaments Ashes was postponed too and now we are playing the post covid Ashes.

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Hardly anyone in this thread follow test cricket or even remember last 5 tests so i don't blame them for predicting anything. Other than this thread i didn't find any discussion where majority were favoring the Poms, even their die hard fans. All discussion was about whitewash by Aussie or outcome of rotation policy in the Ashes, which started last year or so.
I never expected a whitewash by either side though my prediction is that England will win this series though I didn't expect Australia to demolish them in the 1st test in this manner. Australia is improving drastically in all formats currently.

England need to rethink their strategies if they wish to shift the momentum back in their favour in this series.
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First test as the captain for Cummins. Let's see how it goes from here for him. England was perhaps a bit overconfident? They didn't played any warmup matches before the first test. The only match practice they had before the Brisbane test was the abandoned match between their A and B teams, which lasted for just 29 overs (two and half days out of three days washed out). Increasing number of COVID cases in Australia (as well as the ongoing BBL) means that they can't yet schedule any matches against the first class teams.

Thats the dilemma of England cricket team. They have average team most of the times but as soon as there performance start gets better they become arrogant and show such non serious behavior. They have got a blistering reply from Australia that England s still an average team.

On commentary every broadcaster should ban Warne and Junior without any explanation, they give ear cancer to the listener.  

I do agree on this note with you that Shane Warne must not be allowed to enter any commentary box. He is so biased and full of hate for his opponents.
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Excellent batting display from the England, mammoth target of 20 runs. Australia is in big trouble.  Grin

LOL... Before the start of the series, 90% of the users here were saying that England is going to whitewash Australia. And look at what happened. Australia very nearly pulled off an innings victory. BTW, I haven't seen too many posts congratulating Pat Cummins. We can't ignore his contribution here (both as the captain, and as the opening bowler). He made his test debut 10 years ago, at the age of 18 years. And this is very rare in Australia, where the selectors normally doesn't consider players for national team selection until they are 21-22 at least. And I guess he was the last teenager to make debut for them.
Hardly anyone in this thread follow test cricket or even remember last 5 tests so i don't blame them for predicting anything. Other than this thread i didn't find any discussion where majority were favoring the Poms, even their die hard fans. All discussion was about whitewash by Aussie or outcome of rotation policy in the Ashes, which started last year or so.

First off, test matches in Australia and England look so beautiful. I love the pitches.
Australian stadiums are majestic, crowd is good and coverage is average. Recent coverage of Gabba felt like its went back to 2000s, No ball drama, equipment failure or take today's example where they covered good amount of overs with only 1 camera. On commentary every broadcaster should ban Warne and Junior without any explanation, they give ear cancer to the listener.  
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I do agree with you. I was of opinion that England will have upper hand in this Ashes as they have strong team compared to Aussies. Full credit to Cummins, he bowled well in his first test as captain. He was first fast bowler captain for Aussies in 70 years.

First test as the captain for Cummins. Let's see how it goes from here for him. England was perhaps a bit overconfident? They didn't played any warmup matches before the first test. The only match practice they had before the Brisbane test was the abandoned match between their A and B teams, which lasted for just 29 overs (two and half days out of three days washed out). Increasing number of COVID cases in Australia (as well as the ongoing BBL) means that they can't yet schedule any matches against the first class teams.

Now it's too late to discuss the warmup matches and why England did not opt for them. I do think that the England team, after this loss, will come back strong in the second test. They have the players and talent to turn the tables, therefore Australians can't relax and take things for granted even though they have won the first match.

First off, test matches in Australia and England look so beautiful. I love the pitches. Joe Root changed his stance as compare to 2019 ashes. Now he is keeping foot infront of middle stump so that his head is Infront of off stump. Joe Root classy shot, the temperament to stay alive in the hunt and the leadership to lead a team to victory. The character he has shown in the fightback is clearly visible and i can see the intention to stay in the crease till lunch or even further so that his team can put on a tough fight to wrap things up on the final day.
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I do agree with you. I was of opinion that England will have upper hand in this Ashes as they have strong team compared to Aussies. Full credit to Cummins, he bowled well in his first test as captain. He was first fast bowler captain for Aussies in 70 years.

First test as the captain for Cummins. Let's see how it goes from here for him. England was perhaps a bit overconfident? They didn't played any warmup matches before the first test. The only match practice they had before the Brisbane test was the abandoned match between their A and B teams, which lasted for just 29 overs (two and half days out of three days washed out). Increasing number of COVID cases in Australia (as well as the ongoing BBL) means that they can't yet schedule any matches against the first class teams.

Now it's too late to discuss the warmup matches and why England did not opt for them. I do think that the England team, after this loss, will come back strong in the second test. They have the players and talent to turn the tables, therefore Australians can't relax and take things for granted even though they have won the first match.
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I do agree with you. I was of opinion that England will have upper hand in this Ashes as they have strong team compared to Aussies. Full credit to Cummins, he bowled well in his first test as captain. He was first fast bowler captain for Aussies in 70 years.

First test as the captain for Cummins. Let's see how it goes from here for him. England was perhaps a bit overconfident? They didn't played any warmup matches before the first test. The only match practice they had before the Brisbane test was the abandoned match between their A and B teams, which lasted for just 29 overs (two and half days out of three days washed out). Increasing number of COVID cases in Australia (as well as the ongoing BBL) means that they can't yet schedule any matches against the first class teams.
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Excellent batting display from the England, mammoth target of 20 runs. Australia is in big trouble.  Grin

LOL... Before the start of the series, 90% of the users here were saying that England is going to whitewash Australia. And look at what happened. Australia very nearly pulled off an innings victory. BTW, I haven't seen too many posts congratulating Pat Cummins. We can't ignore his contribution here (both as the captain, and as the opening bowler). He made his test debut 10 years ago, at the age of 18 years. And this is very rare in Australia, where the selectors normally doesn't consider players for national team selection until they are 21-22 at least. And I guess he was the last teenager to make debut for them.

I do agree with you. I was of opinion that England will have upper hand in this Ashes as they have strong team compared to Aussies. Full credit to Cummins, he bowled well in his first test as captain. He was first fast bowler captain for Aussies in 70 years.
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Excellent batting display from the England, mammoth target of 20 runs. Australia is in big trouble.  Grin

LOL... Before the start of the series, 90% of the users here were saying that England is going to whitewash Australia. And look at what happened. Australia very nearly pulled off an innings victory. BTW, I haven't seen too many posts congratulating Pat Cummins. We can't ignore his contribution here (both as the captain, and as the opening bowler). He made his test debut 10 years ago, at the age of 18 years. And this is very rare in Australia, where the selectors normally doesn't consider players for national team selection until they are 21-22 at least. And I guess he was the last teenager to make debut for them.

England batting again collapsed in the 2nd innings. When Dawid Malan and Joe Root were batting at 80+ each I thought they could turn the game around for England, but none of the remaining England batsmen were able to show any big performances and Australia easily won this test match.
After Root and Malan showed application on the third day, the English submitted their surrender. English crumbled once again with the new ball, giving a target of 20 runs is just incredible. All down to England's first innings surrender - a disappointing start to the series. This was a totally one-sided match. Australia put 500 on the board, the visitors struggled to score 300.
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Excellent batting display from the England, mammoth target of 20 runs. Australia is in big trouble.  Grin

LOL... Before the start of the series, 90% of the users here were saying that England is going to whitewash Australia. And look at what happened. Australia very nearly pulled off an innings victory. BTW, I haven't seen too many posts congratulating Pat Cummins. We can't ignore his contribution here (both as the captain, and as the opening bowler). He made his test debut 10 years ago, at the age of 18 years. And this is very rare in Australia, where the selectors normally doesn't consider players for national team selection until they are 21-22 at least. And I guess he was the last teenager to make debut for them.

England batting again collapsed in the 2nd innings. When Dawid Malan and Joe Root were batting at 80+ each I thought they could turn the game around for England, but none of the remaining England batsmen were able to show any big performances and Australia easily won this test match.
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Excellent batting display from the England, mammoth target of 20 runs. Australia is in big trouble.  Grin

LOL... Before the start of the series, 90% of the users here were saying that England is going to whitewash Australia. And look at what happened. Australia very nearly pulled off an innings victory. BTW, I haven't seen too many posts congratulating Pat Cummins. We can't ignore his contribution here (both as the captain, and as the opening bowler). He made his test debut 10 years ago, at the age of 18 years. And this is very rare in Australia, where the selectors normally doesn't consider players for national team selection until they are 21-22 at least. And I guess he was the last teenager to make debut for them.
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Finally after 366 days Lyon gets his 400th wicket, very happy to see spin brigade ticking every checklist in recent times.

Ashwin doing what he does best.
Ajaz Patel did the impossible.
Sajid Khan spinning web.
Now GOAT hit the big milestone.


Gabba's 3rd day pitch was perfect to bat on and English batters did everything right, Malan rode his luck and was extremely lucky to survive on countless occasion including -bat & pad- call (no one appealed at all. Root is one man army for the England.

As of now Poms are struggling and they lost 4 more wickets of Malan, Root, Pope and Stokes and trailing 12 runs.  


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Excellent batting display from the England, mammoth target of 20 runs. Australia is in big trouble.  Grin
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This is beauty of test cricket, first 2 days Australia was in command and suddenly third day we have England is some better position and if Root and Malan stay some more time than surely we are going to have very entertaining end of this first of The Ashes test. Right now partnership is already 159, and now they need some more time on crease for having good hand in this match which was slipping very badly after two days play.

Currently, England trailing by 58 runs with 8 wickets in hand and two set batsmen on crease mean very good fight back from them, and it's very good for rest of this series.
Nathan Lyon's wait for his 400th wicket is getting late now it's more than 11 months, he stuck on 399 and becoming fourth player in Australian test history with 400+ wickets.

Full credit goes to Root and Malan for lifting England up in the second innings but damage done by Australian bowlers in the first innings is huge. Though England looks good but I think they are still not in full command. Favorite for this game is still Australia unless England set target of 400 which right now looks not possible.

Good comeback by the English team, they only trail by 49 runs. Root is still going strong and in this manner, he should reach his hundred. Malan is out for 89 and I was thinking that these two guys will continue and put on some runs lead. In my opinion, Root needs to stay on the wicket till England has a good lead.
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Full credit goes to Root and Malan for lifting England up in the second innings but damage done by Australian bowlers in the first innings is huge. Though England looks good but I think they are still not in full command. Favorite for this game is still Australia unless England set target of 400 which right now looks not possible.
Agreed. Root and Malan are playing well at the moment, but these partnerships usually end pretty quickly after a break and I am not expecting much from the rest of the English lineup. They will probably give them a lead of around 100-150 runs.

It all comes down to how well Australia performs in the 2nd innings since the English bowling lineup shouldn't be underestimated.
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