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Quote from: Jewan420 on October 24, 2024, 12:54:11 AM

Irrelevant: There should be no doubt that Shakib is a legend from a cricketing point of view. There is no denying Shakib's contribution in bringing Bangladesh cricket to the world stage. I don't know what is the situation in his country, why he has spread hatred towards him. I don't want to comment on Shakib personally. But cricketer Shakib should have been allowed to play his last match on his country's soil. I am a big fan of Shakib Al Hasan. Through him I love Bangladesh cricket and always support Bangladesh in cricket court.

I don't have anything against him and personally, I like Shakib as a cricketer. He represented Bangladesh for 17 years. He made some mistakes during his career, but I don't take that too seriously. But lately, he joined the political party and became a member of parliament. The Hasina government slowly turned into a dictator government in the last 15 years. He should have stayed away from politics, knowing that it was not good for his cricket career.

Shakib is a business man, and he always looks for opportunities from where he will be able to make money. Most people believes he joined the political party because he wanted some power which he can utilize to make more money and that is backfired him. Currently, there are some supporters of Shakib and they are protesting to bring him back while some others protesting not to allow him to come to the country.

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Quote from: Tony116 on October 24, 2024, 02:11:45 PM

Pakistan had a strong bowling order. Almost every bowler in the squad impressed us with their performances. But now the performance of Pakistani bowlers is very bad. I would say Pakistani players need to work harder. Pakistan squad players are very talented. If they work hard we will see good performance from Pakistan again.
England lost 5 wickets before collecting 100 runs. I thought maybe England's innings would stop before 200. But England managed to collect 267 runs. This is quite a large collection considering the pitch. I doubt if Pakistan will able to collect 250+ runs.

Pakistan players did good bowling but faced trouble in the batting as till the launch break, they were batting at 187 in the loss of 7 wickets, and they were trail by 80 runs at that point. Nine Wickets were picked by the magical bowlers from Pakistan who are the only Sajid Khan and Noman Ali but there is a little bit of more effort by Sajid Khan. But in the end, we have also seen the wickets from other bowler who was Zahid Mehmood. Pakistan bowlers did their best but I think the batting problem can be a big issue later in the game for the Pakistan team.

England's batsmen could not bat well against Sajid Khan and Nooman Ali. Sajid Khan took 6 wickets and Noman Ali three wickets. Pakistani fans are satisfied with the performance of the bowlers, but it is not certain whether the Pakistani batsmen can do well. It is impossible to predict the performance of Pakistani batsmen.

Pakistan lost 7 of their batsmen very quickly. But right now Nomal Ali and Saud Shakeel are batting very responsibly. Pakistan have already collected 49 runs from this pair. Pakistan collected 226 runs after losing 7 wickets. If these two batsmen stay at the crease, Pakistan has a chance of 300+ collection. Saud Shakeel is capable of playing big innings.

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Quote from: Tony116 on October 24, 2024, 02:11:45 PM

Pakistan had a strong bowling order. Almost every bowler in the squad impressed us with their performances. But now the performance of Pakistani bowlers is very bad. I would say Pakistani players need to work harder. Pakistan squad players are very talented. If they work hard we will see good performance from Pakistan again.

England lost 5 wickets before collecting 100 runs. I thought maybe England's innings would stop before 200. But England managed to collect 267 runs. This is quite a large collection considering the pitch. I doubt if Pakistan will able to collect 250+ runs.

Pakistan players did good bowling but faced trouble in the batting as till the launch break, they were batting at 187 in the loss of 7 wickets, and they were trail by 80 runs at that point. Nine Wickets were picked by the magical bowlers from Pakistan who are the only Sajid Khan and Noman Ali but there is a little bit of more effort by Sajid Khan. But in the end, we have also seen the wickets from other bowler who was Zahid Mehmood. Pakistan bowlers did their best but I think the batting problem can be a big issue later in the game for the Pakistan team.

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England were not able to collect big in their first innings. So many of us thought that the Pakistan team would be able to take the lead. But as usual the performance of Pakistan's batsmen is very erratic in this match as well. Except Saud Shakeel, no other batsman can bat better. Saud Shakeel remains unbeaten with 84 runs. And Pakistan team lost 7 wickets for 177 runs. At the moment, Pakistan's collection is 206 runs.

If Pakistan can't take the lead then there is a high chance of Pakistan losing this match. Although the Pakistani bowlers bowled very well in the first half. I would say it is very important for Pakistan to take a lead of at least 20/30 runs. If not, Pakistan will lag behind in the match.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 25, 2024, 12:39:52 AM

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India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kohli and Rohit keep embarassing themselves. 1 and 0? Seriously? It's tough to believe that India is struggling against a side that was totally out of form before this series. Santner and Phillips are on fire.

New Zealand totally have a great chance to create history now, but I still feel the odds are 50:50 at the moment. It all comes down to how close the Indians get to the first innings target.

Rohit and Kohli are the most experienced batsmen in the Indian squad. Even in the first match we saw that we could not play well in the first innings. Despite having a lot of talented batsmen in the squad, India failed to collect big. Even in the second match, India was not able to bat well. Indian batsmen managed to collect only 156 runs. The Indian team was behind New Zealand by 103 runs.

New Zealand are batting very well in their second innings. It seems that New Zealand will be able to provide a big target in this match. The New Zealand team is now leading by 179 runs. New Zealand's batsmen scored 76 runs with the loss of one wicket. Tom Latham scored 37 and Will Young remained unbeaten on 23. More than 300+ targets can be easily provided by New Zealand players.

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End of day 1 itself I predicted this to be tough and the Indian team going to struggle. Losing an early wicket is the reason, and my prediction is everything went accordingly. For India, the spinners gave the break, and for the New Zealand team, the same happened through Santner. The New Zealand team has started the second inning in a comfortable way, which means for sure the team will cross 300+ runs. By the third day, we can see New Zealand declaring or ending its innings, giving a target of 400 to 450 runs. Surely India can't reach such a target, and the test will be over by the fourth day.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 25, 2024, 12:39:52 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on October 25, 2024, 12:18:10 AM

India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kohli and Rohit keep embarassing themselves. 1 and 0? Seriously? It's tough to believe that India is struggling against a side that was totally out of form before this series. Santner and Phillips are on fire.

New Zealand totally have a great chance to create history now, but I still feel the odds are 50:50 at the moment. It all comes down to how close the Indians get to the first innings target.

Not sure about Kohli but IMO it's the last WTC cycle for Rohit.

They are in ditches but surprisingly still everyone saying it's 50:50, even bookies are going with the same sort of odds for both teams. To me, the series is on the line and this might be the best shot for the Kiwis because it's only 3 test match series and not 5. They have a golden opportunity to create history and break a decade old winning streak of this Indian team.

To avoid this, India needs some miracle.

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All done and dusted.

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Quote from: romero121 on October 24, 2024, 06:59:58 AM

Quote from: tsaroz on October 24, 2024, 05:46:11 AM

India vs New Zealand, 1st day of 2nd test too went interesting. New Zealand batting first was all out for 259. Their start was not bad as they had 197 for 3 wickets at a time. But they lost the rest 7 wickets making just 62 runs. All the later 7 wickets for Washington Sundar, 5 of them bold and one lbw. It was a great day for Washington Sundar who made his personal best figure on bowling. Another player to take rest of the 3 wickets was Ravichandran Ashwin.
India batting at the evening too lost Rohit Sharma at duck. They are trying to play slow and keep the wickets for the day as the day is nearly over.

The New Zealand team had a great start, and the end didn't go well. Anyhow, the better start made the New Zealand team reach 259 runs. India had opened the innings, but the start isn't good, and I'm sure the India team is going to struggle. Spin bowlers have dominated the day, and Ashwin holds the record for taking the highest number of wickets in the Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium. For now the winning opportunity is found high with India, but the bowling of New Zealand will be good, and the scenario could change in the upcoming days.

Yeah, In second innings Bangladesh made 307 runs and set the target of 106 runs to South Africa Bangladesh team played well in second innings but main reason of losing this match they did not make big score in first innings which created pressure on them. Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Jaker Ali played a brilliant partnership of 138 runs Mehidy Hasan played 97 runs innings but all in vain South Africa team easily chased the target with loss of only three wickets Tony de Zorzi made 41 runs while Tristan Stubbs scored match winning 30 runs. Taijul Islam takes three wickets overall excellent performance by South Africa team in first game Kagiso Rabada spell was brilliant he takes 9 wickets in both innings. The second test game will be started from 29 October at Chittagong.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 25, 2024, 12:18:10 AM

India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kohli and Rohit keep embarassing themselves. 1 and 0? Seriously? It's tough to believe that India is struggling against a side that was totally out of form before this series. Santner and Phillips are on fire.

New Zealand totally have a great chance to create history now, but I still feel the odds are 50:50 at the moment. It all comes down to how close the Indians get to the first innings target.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 25, 2024, 12:18:10 AM

India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kiwis must tighten their grip and go for the kill. Not many teams get a sniff of winning a series in India and when they do they must cash in.

Both Yashasvi Jaiswal and Shubman Gill had their eye in, they were in their 30s and one of them needed to play a big innings but not to be. Then Virat Kohli missed a juicy full toss and added to the Indian trouble. New Zealand bowlers Mitchell Santner and Glenn Phillips are fully pumped up and Tim Southee's next spell can be devastating too. New Zealand just need to keep the pressure and the wickets will come by automatically.

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India are in deep shit, again because of the top order.

They do have a deep batting but Kiwi's tail is up and need brave effort from the middle order. All they need is 1 good partnership and they should be good but have to grind, no easy runs here so far.

Kiwis must tighten their grip and go for the kill. Not many teams get a sniff of winning a series in India and when they do they must cash in.

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Quote from: Minecache on October 24, 2024, 01:14:16 PM

New Zealand team can't collect big. Indian bowlers especially Washington Sundar bowled very well. But is there any guarantee that the Indian team will be able to collect big?

We saw in the first match that after scoring only 46 runs in the first innings, India scored a huge total of 462 in the second innings. From this it can be understood that the performance of Indian batsmen is not regular now. So I would not be at all surprised if India lose all their wickets before collecting 200 runs. There is even a high possibility of this happening.

Well i think that the Indian team is strong, yes they failed in one innings but this does not mean that they will do the same mistake in the 2nd test 1st innings too. I don't think that they will be all out before 200 or less as you are predicting. The reason is that they have no pressure in this innings as they already know that New Zealand team are all out at 259 runs and even if they played badly they can make this small score easily. It only requires one big partnership and that's all. Indian bowlers did a good job yesterday and I do hope that Indian batsmen do the same good batting today.

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Quote from: ThemePen on October 24, 2024, 07:44:04 PM

England batted for long time so Aamer Jamal did not need to bowl much. Sajid Khan and Noman Ali did great job taking nine wickets together. Their partnership worked well so no other bowlers were needed. But Pakistan top batsmen struggled. Losing three key players early put a lot of pressure on team. Pakistan top batsmen need to do better and provide stability. They must work together to change game momentum especially after Sajid and Noman impressive bowling. For now Pakistani bowlers have done their work and now its on batsmen what they will do?

Yes you are right Sajid Khan and Noman Ali did great job taking nine wickets together. They worked well as team so no other bowlers were needed. However Pakistan top batsmen did not played well. Losing key players early put pressure on team. Now Pakistan top batsmen must work together and stay strong to change game. And you are right Sajid and Noman bowled impressively now it is the batsmen turn. Pakistan bowlers did their job now the batsmen must do theirs.

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Quote from: LDL on October 24, 2024, 04:11:30 PM

Aamer Jamal did not need much bowling as England batted for 68 overs in the first innings while Sajid Khan and Noman Ali combined for 57 overs. In these 57 overs, Sajid Khan has collected 6 wickets and Noman Ali has collected 3 wickets i.e. the two have collected a total of nine wickets. Since Sajid Khan and Noman Ali are getting each other's support, no other bowler's support was much needed here. However, Pakistan's top order batsmen's performance was not good at all and the dismissal of three key top order batsmen for 73 runs put Pakistan's innings under a lot of pressure.

England batted for long time so Aamer Jamal did not need to bowl much. Sajid Khan and Noman Ali did great job taking nine wickets together. Their partnership worked well so no other bowlers were needed. But Pakistan top batsmen struggled. Losing three key players early put a lot of pressure on team. Pakistan top batsmen need to do better and provide stability. They must work together to change game momentum especially after Sajid and Noman impressive bowling. For now Pakistani bowlers have done their work and now its on batsmen what they will do?

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Quote from: virasog on October 24, 2024, 11:39:31 AM

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India managed to collect only 46 runs in the first innings of the first match. India lost the match because of such bad batting in the first innings. India made a big collection in the second innings but failed to deliver a big target till the end.

Indian batsmen will certainly not want to repeat the same incident in the second match. Indian bowlers bowled well enough. Especially Washington Sundar's great bowling stopped New Zealand's innings at only 259 runs. Washington Sundar picked up 7 important wickets. Ravichandran Ashwin picked up three wickets. But Rohit Sharma could not collect any runs. At the end of the first day, India managed to collect 16 runs after losing 1 wicket.

That was the first match and we see that the Indian team are playing much better in the 2nd test match at pune. Indian bowlers bowled well today and it will be fair to say that Washington Sundar bowled exceptionally well and took 7 wickets in his 23 overs that he bowled. It was only because of this bowling that New Zealand were restricted to this score of 259. I think the Indian batsmen should take full advantage of this low score and bat confidently to get a big lead.

They lost Rohit Sharma early but still plenty of batting to come for them. 1.14 odds for India is very good when you know that New Zealand had a bad first innings in this match.

In these days, there are a lot of test matches to discuss and to see. India vs New Zealand is in running while the second game between Pakistan and England also in progress but the game that was finished is the match between Sri Lanka and South Africa on what I am going to discuss, this game ended very fast as we can see in the first innings of Bangladesh, they out at the low score of 106 then South Africa made good score, it was just about first day and in the second day after scoring 308 runs South Africa lost all the wickets and once again Bangladesh came to bat. But it was too late for them at that stage to save this test.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 24, 2024, 01:31:55 PM

I don't really understand what is going on with Pakistan. They had complete control of the match when they had England at 118/6. But then Gus Atkinson and Jamie Smith put up a record 7th wicket partnership to stabilize the innings. And even after Atkinson got out, tailenders Rehan Ahmed and Jack Leach added valuable runs. For Pakistan, Sajid Khan was exceptional. But as usual, he didn't got much support from the other bowlers. Aamer Jamal didn't even bowled a single ball.

Aamer Jamal did not need much bowling as England batted for 68 overs in the first innings while Sajid Khan and Noman Ali combined for 57 overs. In these 57 overs, Sajid Khan has collected 6 wickets and Noman Ali has collected 3 wickets i.e. the two have collected a total of nine wickets. Since Sajid Khan and Noman Ali are getting each other's support, no other bowler's support was much needed here. However, Pakistan's top order batsmen's performance was not good at all and the dismissal of three key top order batsmen for 73 runs put Pakistan's innings under a lot of pressure.

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Quote from: romero121 on October 24, 2024, 06:59:58 AM

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India vs New Zealand, 1st day of 2nd test too went interesting. New Zealand batting first was all out for 259. Their start was not bad as they had 197 for 3 wickets at a time. But they lost the rest 7 wickets making just 62 runs. All the later 7 wickets for Washington Sundar, 5 of them bold and one lbw. It was a great day for Washington Sundar who made his personal best figure on bowling. Another player to take rest of the 3 wickets was Ravichandran Ashwin.
India batting at the evening too lost Rohit Sharma at duck. They are trying to play slow and keep the wickets for the day as the day is nearly over.

The New Zealand team had a great start, and the end didn't go well. Anyhow, the better start made the New Zealand team reach 259 runs. India had opened the innings, but the start isn't good, and I'm sure the India team is going to struggle. Spin bowlers have dominated the day, and Ashwin holds the record for taking the highest number of wickets in the Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium. For now the winning opportunity is found high with India, but the bowling of New Zealand will be good, and the scenario could change in the upcoming days.

We can't say any team as a favorite team for that match because we saw Indian team in last match in which Indian team played very well and all team out by making only 46 runs in first inning and in the second inning they tried to give good target but they could not successful to give good target and they lose last match. New Zealand made an average score in first inning and I think competition will be tough because New Zealand bowling attack is outclass and they will take Wickets in the start . Indian team lose 1 wicket in the first day of test match and they are at 16 score and they will start second day from that.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 24, 2024, 01:15:43 PM

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I was thinking Axar Patel would have been better choice than Washington but boy did he shut me up, Ravindra and Blundell's dismissals were absolute delight to watch as well.
Also, I feel like Rachin is backbone of kiwis currently, you get him out early, high chances they won't be making much.

Rachin Ravindra performance is always important for New Zealand. Although Rachin Ravindra performance wasn't good in his debut test series against India, he has proven his importance after that. Axar Patel is an important bowler too, but right-arm offbreak bowlers are doing well in this pitch. Washington Sundar has performed better than anyone's expectation. The pitch was giving a good turn to him.

Washington Sundar and Ashwin's controlled bowling meant that the New Zealand team could not collect big. New Zealand managed to collect only 259 runs. Washington Sundar took 7 wickets and Ashwin 3 wickets. Besides, no bowler can take wickets. But looking at the condition of the pitch we understand that the pitch helps the spin bowlers a lot. New Zealand's batsmen are failing to play well against the spin bowlers.

Indian bowlers have been able to bowl well. But now it cannot be said for sure whether the Indian batsmen will be able to play well. India has already lost the important wicket of Rohit Sharma. India will lose this match like the first match if the batsmen do not play well. The main reason for India's defeat in the first match was the poor performance of the batsmen.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 24, 2024, 01:31:55 PM

I don't really understand what is going on with Pakistan. They had complete control of the match when they had England at 118/6. But then Gus Atkinson and Jamie Smith put up a record 7th wicket partnership to stabilize the innings. And even after Atkinson got out, tailenders Rehan Ahmed and Jack Leach added valuable runs. For Pakistan, Sajid Khan was exceptional. But as usual, he didn't got much support from the other bowlers. Aamer Jamal didn't even bowled a single ball.

Pakistan had a strong bowling order. Almost every bowler in the squad impressed us with their performances. But now the performance of Pakistani bowlers is very bad. I would say Pakistani players need to work harder. Pakistan squad players are very talented. If they work hard we will see good performance from Pakistan again.

England lost 5 wickets before collecting 100 runs. I thought maybe England's innings would stop before 200. But England managed to collect 267 runs. This is quite a large collection considering the pitch. I doubt if Pakistan will able to collect 250+ runs.

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I don't really understand what is going on with Pakistan. They had complete control of the match when they had England at 118/6. But then Gus Atkinson and Jamie Smith put up a record 7th wicket partnership to stabilize the innings. And even after Atkinson got out, tailenders Rehan Ahmed and Jack Leach added valuable runs. For Pakistan, Sajid Khan was exceptional. But as usual, he didn't got much support from the other bowlers. Aamer Jamal didn't even bowled a single ball.

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