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Quote from: erikalui on February 24, 2020, 03:37:43 AM

India has played their worse in this test match and in the ODIs and NZ had not to struggle even once in 3 days. Getting less than 200 in both innings and being unable to restrict the other team means they can't bowl well nor bat well. Virat blames the toss now and feels 220-230 would have been a good score. Is he the same person who used to not follow up despite having made 400+ runs last year? Now he'll say Test match is not our priority as we are focusing on T20 WC.

Is it not that since Viral is unable to score big in the match and Indian team is struggling ? Previously Virat and top order performed so well, that Indian middle and lower order was never tested. But this time since the upper order failed, there was no backup plan at the middle and lower order. Sometimes i feel Indian team depend too heavenly on star batsmen like Virat and if they fail, the whole team collapse.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 24, 2020, 03:10:56 AM

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Fucking disgrace, 2 inning and didn't even able to cross 200 runs mark.. that's how no 1 team is supposed to play? Except Ishant Sharma and Mayank there is nothing positive for India in the match.

Come on people. No need to be so hard on them. No team is perfect. This is their 1st test loss after a long time and I am expecting them to bounce back in the 2nd test. Sad times for Indian fans, but an optimistic approach to future games is key here.

This game made me admire Kohli even more since he is very optimistic and he is confident that the team will turn things around soon. However, many of the newbies except Mayank were disappointing. I am expecting them to come back strong in the next game.

Losing the game is not problem but the way they surrendered.

India hardly lose game in home. Problem comes when they tour any SENA countries, I understand Winning a test match in SENA countries is not easy task for any sub-continent team but at-least show some spine. To give you example In 2018 Srilanka saved the game at very same ground by batting all day and this Indian squad has minimum 6 match winner if not more who are capable of performing or winning anywhere in the world but whenever they visit SENA countries they always repeat same mistake again and again.

They might win next game as they always do, TBH its becoming lousy habit of losing first game miserably only to take things seriously later. I am sure after this series they are not going to learn anything from it and they might slide all mistakes under the rug one more time because next series is schedule in Dec (Long break) against the Australians in Australia.

Edit: PS : We should change the SENA term into ANUS...

A - Australia
N - New Zealand
U - United Kingdom
S - South Africa

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India has played their worse in this test match and in the ODIs and NZ had not to struggle even once in 3 days. Getting less than 200 in both innings and being unable to restrict the other team means they can't bowl well nor bat well. Virat blames the toss now and feels 220-230 would have been a good score. Is he the same person who used to not follow up despite having made 400+ runs last year? Now he'll say Test match is not our priority as we are focusing on T20 WC.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 23, 2020, 07:24:08 PM

Fucking disgrace, 2 inning and didn't even able to cross 200 runs mark.. that's how no 1 team is supposed to play? Except Ishant Sharma and Mayank there is nothing positive for India in the match.

Come on people. No need to be so hard on them. No team is perfect. This is their 1st test loss after a long time and I am expecting them to bounce back in the 2nd test. Sad times for Indian fans, but an optimistic approach to future games is key here.

This game made me admire Kohli even more since he is very optimistic and he is confident that the team will turn things around soon. However, many of the newbies except Mayank were disappointing. I am expecting them to come back strong in the next game.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 23, 2020, 07:24:08 PM

Fucking disgrace, 2 inning and didn't even able to cross 200 runs mark.. that's how no 1 team is supposed to play? Except Ishant Sharma and Mayank there is nothing positive for India in the match.

After the dominance in the T20 format they lost the plot altogether as New Zealand completely dominated in ODI white washing them and that is continuing in the Test series too, Virat Kohli was their main player and he is not firing throughout the ODI series and now in this match and that is a thing of concern as the entire team depends on his performance. Complete dominance by New Zealand and i am expecting the same dominance in the second match and how India will come back is to be seen.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2020, 07:36:56 AM

I don't think they need a miracle or anything. The Indian bowlers can destroy the NZ batting lineup if they bowl the right lengths. All the batsmen need to do at this stage is to drag the game for as long as possible and post a target close to 250 minimum.

Sharma and Ashwin are already performing currently. If Bumrah joins the party, they can do wonders. Also, if it starts raining again, it could possibly end up in a draw. This is why test results are always tough to predict.

Target close to 250? Not happening. Currently, they are trail by 40 runs or so. Rahane, Vihari and Pant are the only batsmen left for India, I don't they'll be able to score another 300 runs tomorrow. Even if they miraculously manage to post such a target, there is still one day left for NZ to win the match. So this match is a goner for India.

Target was only 9 runs which NZ made them easily. We were hoping that Indian could fight back or even if they lose, they lose it while fighting but the match was one sided and was a disappointment for the Indian fans.
Next test is on 29 on February and i am hoping Indian team would make some serious changes in their lineup.

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Quote from: mersal on February 23, 2020, 02:18:39 PM

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Though Rahane and Vihari are on the crease, I think that it will be tough for India to capture the match as they will have 2 long days before them and quite a good batting lineup of New Zealand to deal with.

Both the batsmen spend decent amount on the crease and stopped the wicket flow in the last session but as you said still 2 long days to be played and no chance for rain might give us a feeling that its difficult task from now to win this match for team India.If India ca find one 100 run partnership or more from this match then it can change the course of the entire match from now.

India would like to forget this test match as there was nothing from their side which could help the audiences or themselves to be in the game. After poor performance in 1st innings it was expected that they would atleast stay on the pitch and make some decent score, but they just could not even cross 200 runs barrier proved that this series most likely would be white washed again. In the end NZ won by 10 wickets and Southee was the player of the match.

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Fucking disgrace, 2 inning and didn't even able to cross 200 runs mark.. that's how no 1 team is supposed to play? Except Ishant Sharma and Mayank there is nothing positive for India in the match.

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Quote from: mersal on February 23, 2020, 02:18:39 PM

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Though Rahane and Vihari are on the crease, I think that it will be tough for India to capture the match as they will have 2 long days before them and quite a good batting lineup of New Zealand to deal with.

Both the batsmen spend decent amount on the crease and stopped the wicket flow in the last session but as you said still 2 long days to be played and no chance for rain might give us a feeling that its difficult task from now to win this match for team India.If India ca find one 100 run partnership or more from this match then it can change the course of the entire match from now.

This is test match and any thing can happen because test history is full of miracles but right now best thing is can Rhanae and Vaihari can stay on crease for long time if they able then surley any target in fourth inning is easy just need 100+ runs on board Pant and Ashwin still to come so this is possible if New Zealand tail enders can give more then 120 so here is also possibility need some fox and patience from these guys.
Edit: Poor start lost quick wickets but not losing match by an inning.

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Though Rahane and Vihari are on the crease, I think that it will be tough for India to capture the match as they will have 2 long days before them and quite a good batting lineup of New Zealand to deal with.

Both the batsmen spend decent amount on the crease and stopped the wicket flow in the last session but as you said still 2 long days to be played and no chance for rain might give us a feeling that its difficult task from now to win this match for team India.If India ca find one 100 run partnership or more from this match then it can change the course of the entire match from now.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 23, 2020, 08:38:00 AM

^^ Yeah, very dim chances. but who knows? Miracles does happens in cricket. To win this test match India needed the Dravid-Lakshman's Eden Garden inning, but they failed. I have no issue when team losing the game but for fuck sake at-least show some back bone and fight back. you are NO 1 test side for a reason.

Its disappointing when you wake up early morning then watching your team struggling like a minnow and going down without fight.

Well... who knows? Perhaps either Rishabh Pant or Ajinkya Rahane will play an innings similar to what Dravid-Laxman did back then. I am watching cricket since I was 4 or 5 years old, and I'll tell you one thing. Historically, New Zealand bowlers have fared poorly against lower order batsmen. I still remember a record stand between Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad sometime in 1999, against New Zealand at Hamilton.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 23, 2020, 08:38:00 AM

^^ Yeah, very dim chances. but who knows? Miracles does happens in cricket. To win this test match India needed the Dravid-Lakshman's Eden Garden inning, but they failed. I have no issue when team losing the game but for fuck sake at-least show some back bone and fight back. you are NO 1 test side for a reason.

Its disappointing when you wake up early morning then watching your team struggling like a minnow and going down without fight.

I woke up early to watch this game even on this Sunday but its heartbreaking to see them play like this.Indian run scoring machine still not working and give all the work should be done by the middle and lower order batsmen again to keep our hope alive.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2020, 07:36:56 AM

I don't think they need a miracle or anything. The Indian bowlers can destroy the NZ batting lineup if they bowl the right lengths. All the batsmen need to do at this stage is to drag the game for as long as possible and post a target close to 250 minimum.

Sharma and Ashwin are already performing currently. If Bumrah joins the party, they can do wonders. Also, if it starts raining again, it could possibly end up in a draw. This is why test results are always tough to predict.

Target close to 250? Not happening. Currently, they are trail by 40 runs or so. Rahane, Vihari and Pant are the only batsmen left for India, I don't they'll be able to score another 300 runs tomorrow. Even if they miraculously manage to post such a target, there is still one day left for NZ to win the match. So this match is a goner for India.

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^^ Yeah, very dim chances. but who knows? Miracles does happens in cricket. To win this test match India needed the Dravid-Lakshman's Eden Garden inning, but they failed. I have no issue when team losing the game but for fuck sake at-least show some back bone and fight back. you are NO 1 test side for a reason.

Its disappointing when you wake up early morning then watching your team struggling like a minnow and going down without fight.

Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2020, 03:06:41 AM

Also, what is up with Indian bowlers not being able to remove the NZ tail-enders quickly these days?

Careless cricket when lower order bats? Same thing happened in the England and they paid the price by losing 2 test games and series.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 23, 2020, 07:50:35 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2020, 07:36:56 AM

I don't think they need a miracle or anything. The Indian bowlers can destroy the NZ batting lineup if they bowl the right lengths. All the batsmen need to do at this stage is to drag the game for as long as possible and post a target close to 250 minimum.

Sharma and Ashwin are already performing currently. If Bumrah joins the party, they can do wonders. Also, if it starts raining again, it could possibly end up in a draw. This is why test results are always tough to predict.

Hmm... still saying that there is a chance for India?

India is still trailing by 39 runs, And four of their batsmen are back in the pavilion. Let's assume that by some miracle the remaining Indian players manage to score another 150 runs. That means that New Zealand would need 110-115 to win. Even if there is rain intervention (according to weather prediction there is zero chance of rain), I think that New Zeland would be left with enough overs to score this many runs.

Who knows there might be some miracle is waiting! Grin

But he is right if Indian batsmen drag the game and post a score of target like 230+ for NZ to chase then it will be a fighting score for Indian bowlers to get defend.Because day 4 and 5 might starts assisting the bowlers more so batsmen will get struggle and fall too quick like happened in day 3 session 1.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 23, 2020, 07:36:56 AM

I don't think they need a miracle or anything. The Indian bowlers can destroy the NZ batting lineup if they bowl the right lengths. All the batsmen need to do at this stage is to drag the game for as long as possible and post a target close to 250 minimum.

Sharma and Ashwin are already performing currently. If Bumrah joins the party, they can do wonders. Also, if it starts raining again, it could possibly end up in a draw. This is why test results are always tough to predict.

Hmm... still saying that there is a chance for India?

India is still trailing by 39 runs, And four of their batsmen are back in the pavilion. Let's assume that by some miracle the remaining Indian players manage to score another 150 runs. That means that New Zealand would need 110-115 to win. Even if there is rain intervention (according to weather prediction there is zero chance of rain), I think that New Zeland would be left with enough overs to score this many runs.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on February 23, 2020, 04:51:16 AM

Only a miracle can safe India from this defeat. This will be a big set back for them because NZ just white washed them in ODI Series.
There are only two tests in the series, so if they win the first one, they cannot lose the test series.

I don't think they need a miracle or anything. The Indian bowlers can destroy the NZ batting lineup if they bowl the right lengths. All the batsmen need to do at this stage is to drag the game for as long as possible and post a target close to 250 minimum.

Sharma and Ashwin are already performing currently. If Bumrah joins the party, they can do wonders. Also, if it starts raining again, it could possibly end up in a draw. This is why test results are always tough to predict.

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Quote from: onrise on February 23, 2020, 05:42:07 AM

Bangladesh is on fire as in respond to Zimbabwe innings they are 228/3 and just trail by 37 runs. Najmul got out at 71 and Captain Haque is batting on 73. Zimbabwe from here have to pick up quick wickets if they have to be in the match else Bangladesh will win this quite comfortably. No blowers are able to put pressure on batsman which is real cause of worry for Zimbabwe.

I am surprised that there is still so much interest for matches involving Zimbabwe. It is a dying team and in a few years, it will end up like Kenya. The Zimbabwe cricket board receives $12 million per year from the ICC, and this amount means that some sort of cricketing structure is still alive there. But if you take out the players who are now based abroad (Ervine, Williams, Taylor.etc), the team will not be able to compete against even the lower ranked associate sides.

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Quote from: erikalui on February 23, 2020, 05:51:57 AM

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Once they complete the deficit which is 38 now, they will have to give target to the NZ which won't be much considering India has already lost the four top wickets. Only a miracle can safe India from this defeat. This will be a big set back for them because NZ just white washed them in ODI Series.
There are only two tests in the series, so if they win the first one, they cannot lose the test series.

No miracle can save India now. Leaving it to the bowlers and Rahane and Pant, I don't feel they will manage even 150 runs from now on which makes NZ to chase down 110+ runs. Bowlers too haven't done their task of restricting NZ to 250-300 runs instead they let them get another 50 runs which took India to just chase down the extra runs. NZ's bowlers managed to get 40 runs while I can't expect the same from Indian bowlers. Hope they manage atleast to put some runs on board for NZ to chase else a score like last time would mean a miserable defeat. Feeling the match would end tomorrow Undecided

The way India has been playing after the T20 series I am pretty much convinced they will lose the test series too. This is just the beginning more to come in few more months. Even Virat Kohli's performance has gone down. The team can niether Bat nor Bowl now.

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on February 23, 2020, 04:51:16 AM

Once they complete the deficit which is 38 now, they will have to give target to the NZ which won't be much considering India has already lost the four top wickets. Only a miracle can safe India from this defeat. This will be a big set back for them because NZ just white washed them in ODI Series.
There are only two tests in the series, so if they win the first one, they cannot lose the test series.

No miracle can save India now. Leaving it to the bowlers and Rahane and Pant, I don't feel they will manage even 150 runs from now on which makes NZ to chase down 110+ runs. Bowlers too haven't done their task of restricting NZ to 250-300 runs instead they let them get another 50 runs which took India to just chase down the extra runs. NZ's bowlers managed to get 40 runs while I can't expect the same from Indian bowlers. Hope they manage atleast to put some runs on board for NZ to chase else a score like last time would mean a miserable defeat. Feeling the match would end tomorrow Undecided

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