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legendary
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These two accepted but we have some many others also in this community those hide age because in sub-continent its very common thing as just few days back I was in my kids school principal is my friend and he was celebrating his 55th birthday and twin sister was just 45 years old so you can imagine whats going here Naseem is good youngster but I feel he is above but now its no matter because he is already in record books.
I was not aware of this strange situation where people will be able to lie about their age. I have read about Afridi in his biography that he claimed that he was not that young when he scored the fastest century and i thought it was just a publicity stunt to sell more books but i like the ten year difference between twins  Cheesy. I am not sure how that is even possible to lie about a ten year gap as these are well above my comprehension Grin.
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Both Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah bowled well. But these guys need to be consistent while facing tougher opposition. I still remember what happened to Naseem, when he played his first test match (against Australia at Brisbane). He couldn't handle the pressure then. Anyway, it is encouraging to see some young players in the starting XI for Pakistan after a long time. 
If they are able to develop young talents when the sernior players are still in the team, then they will be able to groom them and become a better player than they started and all the teams should follow that pattern to have a good team even after their past super stars retire, the problem with Pakistan is that they usually replace the senior players at once if they fail a series and push the young players and that will not help them develop.

Personally I am against the idea of allowing 16-year olds to play in the national team. But Pakistan has done it very frequently. Hasan Raza was just 14-years old, when he played his first match for Pakistan. Some of the other teams don't allow this. For example, the last time Australia had a teenager in theri national side was in 2011, when Pat Cummins made his debut. 

For some weird reason i see this as a age-scam whenever any young fella from Sub-continent pops in the international team. In sub-continent hiding age is big scam. few examples comes into my mind such as Sehwag ( he accepted this on record) and Shahid Afridi ( Prime example)
These two accepted but we have some many others also in this community those hide age because in sub-continent its very common thing as just few days back I was in my kids school principal is my friend and he was celebrating his 55th birthday and twin sister was just 45 years old so you can imagine whats going here Naseem is good youngster but I feel he is above but now its no matter because he is already in record books.
legendary
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Both Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah bowled well. But these guys need to be consistent while facing tougher opposition. I still remember what happened to Naseem, when he played his first test match (against Australia at Brisbane). He couldn't handle the pressure then. Anyway, it is encouraging to see some young players in the starting XI for Pakistan after a long time. 
If they are able to develop young talents when the sernior players are still in the team, then they will be able to groom them and become a better player than they started and all the teams should follow that pattern to have a good team even after their past super stars retire, the problem with Pakistan is that they usually replace the senior players at once if they fail a series and push the young players and that will not help them develop.

Personally I am against the idea of allowing 16-year olds to play in the national team. But Pakistan has done it very frequently. Hasan Raza was just 14-years old, when he played his first match for Pakistan. Some of the other teams don't allow this. For example, the last time Australia had a teenager in theri national side was in 2011, when Pat Cummins made his debut. 

For some weird reason i see this as a age-scam whenever any young fella from Sub-continent pops in the international team. In sub-continent hiding age is big scam. few examples comes into my mind such as Sehwag ( he accepted this on record) and Shahid Afridi ( Prime example)
legendary
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Personally I am against the idea of allowing 16-year olds to play in the national team. But Pakistan has done it very frequently. Hasan Raza was just 14-years old, when he played his first match for Pakistan. Some of the other teams don't allow this. For example, the last time Australia had a teenager in theri national side was in 2011, when Pat Cummins made his debut. 
It depends upon the skill level of the player, Sachin, Afridi all came during their younger days in the team and it is a rare occurrence and they were in the team because of their immense talent and they fulfilled their career. There is a lot more competition now and rather than pushing an younger player they need to help them developer and mature themselves.
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Both Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah bowled well. But these guys need to be consistent while facing tougher opposition. I still remember what happened to Naseem, when he played his first test match (against Australia at Brisbane). He couldn't handle the pressure then. Anyway, it is encouraging to see some young players in the starting XI for Pakistan after a long time. 
If they are able to develop young talents when the sernior players are still in the team, then they will be able to groom them and become a better player than they started and all the teams should follow that pattern to have a good team even after their past super stars retire, the problem with Pakistan is that they usually replace the senior players at once if they fail a series and push the young players and that will not help them develop.

Things have changed a lot these days in cricket. You will not find many seniors players teaching or coaching to Jr. Players as then these Jr Players become threat for the Seniors ones. Due to a lot of competition among the players, no one will want that others players take the place of one self. Players thinks of their career more than what is more beneficial for their country or team.
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Both Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah bowled well. But these guys need to be consistent while facing tougher opposition. I still remember what happened to Naseem, when he played his first test match (against Australia at Brisbane). He couldn't handle the pressure then. Anyway, it is encouraging to see some young players in the starting XI for Pakistan after a long time. 
If they are able to develop young talents when the sernior players are still in the team, then they will be able to groom them and become a better player than they started and all the teams should follow that pattern to have a good team even after their past super stars retire, the problem with Pakistan is that they usually replace the senior players at once if they fail a series and push the young players and that will not help them develop.

Personally I am against the idea of allowing 16-year olds to play in the national team. But Pakistan has done it very frequently. Hasan Raza was just 14-years old, when he played his first match for Pakistan. Some of the other teams don't allow this. For example, the last time Australia had a teenager in theri national side was in 2011, when Pat Cummins made his debut. 
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Both Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah bowled well. But these guys need to be consistent while facing tougher opposition. I still remember what happened to Naseem, when he played his first test match (against Australia at Brisbane). He couldn't handle the pressure then. Anyway, it is encouraging to see some young players in the starting XI for Pakistan after a long time. 
If they are able to develop young talents when the sernior players are still in the team, then they will be able to groom them and become a better player than they started and all the teams should follow that pattern to have a good team even after their past super stars retire, the problem with Pakistan is that they usually replace the senior players at once if they fail a series and push the young players and that will not help them develop.
Pakistan's biggest issue is not development of youngsters we have history of many exciting new and talented youngsters they came give very few performance and then suddenly disappear because here biggest issue is personal like and dislike we have no 100% Merit system which give young's confidence which is very important in cricket we have very poor system and sick mind peoples in management which are not able to handle things as they need to be for good quality and performance.
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Both Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah bowled well. But these guys need to be consistent while facing tougher opposition. I still remember what happened to Naseem, when he played his first test match (against Australia at Brisbane). He couldn't handle the pressure then. Anyway, it is encouraging to see some young players in the starting XI for Pakistan after a long time. 
If they are able to develop young talents when the sernior players are still in the team, then they will be able to groom them and become a better player than they started and all the teams should follow that pattern to have a good team even after their past super stars retire, the problem with Pakistan is that they usually replace the senior players at once if they fail a series and push the young players and that will not help them develop.
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A sad news as Pakistan's inaugural tests last link dies in Karachi even he was not great but was a good stroke maker https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28669947/waqar-hasan-last-link-pakistan-inaugural-test-dies-87

Hmmm... Pakistan played its first test match in 1952. But I need to remember you that Pakistan players were part of the British India test squad, when they played their first match on 1932 (at Lord's). For example, Ghulam Mohammad represented Sindh in the domestic tournaments. Naoomal Jeoomal was born in Karachi. Mohammad Nissar was born in Hoshiarpur, but later moved to Lahore. 
I am not talking any thing related to any other player or team just have news so linked and post here because he was last person on earth who played first test match for Pakistan all others already gone and now we have no more like this just link nothing else because we have many players those played for India but these all already passed away.
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A sad news as Pakistan's inaugural tests last link dies in Karachi even he was not great but was a good stroke maker https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28669947/waqar-hasan-last-link-pakistan-inaugural-test-dies-87

Hmmm... Pakistan played its first test match in 1952. But I need to remember you that Pakistan players were part of the British India test squad, when they played their first match on 1932 (at Lord's). For example, Ghulam Mohammad represented Sindh in the domestic tournaments. Naoomal Jeoomal was born in Karachi. Mohammad Nissar was born in Hoshiarpur, but later moved to Lahore. 
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^^^^ If everyone in the Pakistan batting lineup plays like Babar Azam, then they will be the no.1 ranking test team in the world. But that is the problem with Pakistan. The entire workload is falling on the shoulders of a few players, with few others contributing. BTW, what happened to Fakhar Zaman? The combination (Babar-Zaman) was the backbone of Pakistan batting earlier. Babar also performs well, when he is batting along with Zaman. The chemistry is very good, between these two payers.
After good batting from Pakistan bowlers also give some good support now I am feeling this match is going to end in early hours as tail enders cannot resist against quality bowling Naseem's 45 th hatrick in test matches give really good end of day as now he is youngest bowler to achieve this honor now may be Pakistan win this match by an inning.

Both Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah bowled well. But these guys need to be consistent while facing tougher opposition. I still remember what happened to Naseem, when he played his first test match (against Australia at Brisbane). He couldn't handle the pressure then. Anyway, it is encouraging to see some young players in the starting XI for Pakistan after a long time. 
A sad news as Pakistan's inaugural tests last link dies in Karachi even he was not great but was a good stroke maker https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28669947/waqar-hasan-last-link-pakistan-inaugural-test-dies-87
sr. member
Activity: 1988
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^^^^ If everyone in the Pakistan batting lineup plays like Babar Azam, then they will be the no.1 ranking test team in the world. But that is the problem with Pakistan. The entire workload is falling on the shoulders of a few players, with few others contributing. BTW, what happened to Fakhar Zaman? The combination (Babar-Zaman) was the backbone of Pakistan batting earlier. Babar also performs well, when he is batting along with Zaman. The chemistry is very good, between these two payers.
After good batting from Pakistan bowlers also give some good support now I am feeling this match is going to end in early hours as tail enders cannot resist against quality bowling Naseem's 45 th hatrick in test matches give really good end of day as now he is youngest bowler to achieve this honor now may be Pakistan win this match by an inning.

Both Naseem Shah and Yasir Shah bowled well. But these guys need to be consistent while facing tougher opposition. I still remember what happened to Naseem, when he played his first test match (against Australia at Brisbane). He couldn't handle the pressure then. Anyway, it is encouraging to see some young players in the starting XI for Pakistan after a long time. 
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^^^^ If everyone in the Pakistan batting lineup plays like Babar Azam, then they will be the no.1 ranking test team in the world. But that is the problem with Pakistan. The entire workload is falling on the shoulders of a few players, with few others contributing. BTW, what happened to Fakhar Zaman? The combination (Babar-Zaman) was the backbone of Pakistan batting earlier. Babar also performs well, when he is batting along with Zaman. The chemistry is very good, between these two payers.
After good batting from Pakistan bowlers also give some good support now I am feeling this match is going to end in early hours as tail enders cannot resist against quality bowling Naseem's 45 th hatrick in test matches give really good end of day as now he is youngest bowler to achieve this honor now may be Pakistan win this match by an inning.

Good spell by Yasir 4 for 58 helped Pakistan wrap up Bangladesh innings quickly for a score of 168 runs only in second innings and fall short. Thus Pakistan won by an innings and 44 runs. Naseem hattrick helped him to be awarded Man of the match .
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^^^^ If everyone in the Pakistan batting lineup plays like Babar Azam, then they will be the no.1 ranking test team in the world. But that is the problem with Pakistan. The entire workload is falling on the shoulders of a few players, with few others contributing. BTW, what happened to Fakhar Zaman? The combination (Babar-Zaman) was the backbone of Pakistan batting earlier. Babar also performs well, when he is batting along with Zaman. The chemistry is very good, between these two payers.
After good batting from Pakistan bowlers also give some good support now I am feeling this match is going to end in early hours as tail enders cannot resist against quality bowling Naseem's 45 th hatrick in test matches give really good end of day as now he is youngest bowler to achieve this honor now may be Pakistan win this match by an inning.
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I don't have much expectation from Bangladeshi team as their key players missing the game and they are playing only 1 test right now, 2nd test is schedule in April. Its strange and weird move from both boards PCB-BCB.
Not sure why a long gap for a series, is it because of the security issues that is discussed here, may be they want to monitor how the match goes and if everything is fine then they will assess the situation once again and complete the series  Cheesy.

Yeah its seems like that, so called "Security Reasons" and its more of BCB's idea to play bilateral series in 3 phases, they are making joke out of this bilateral series TBH.

First Phase (Jan) - T-20
Second Phase (Feb) - 1 Test
Final (April) - 1 ODI and 1 test

I guess they have scheduled it as per PCB's decision as Pakistan is the host for all the matches and Pakistan board is not willing to take any risk this time. I am sure this might be due to the tighten security provided by the Pakistan board.
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Babar Azam's last seven Test innings:

104
97
8
102*
60
100*
102*

Runs: 573
Hundreds: 4
Average: 143.25

Source: https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1226099611334512640

This is amazing! This guy can potentially beat Virat Kohli in upcoming years (but the problem is that Kohli continues to further evolve). Roll Eyes

He is really talented player and the way he bats and executes the shots truly show his class as a batsman and hope he continues his hard-work and does not get carried away with this form. Pakistan has taken 187 runs lead and left with 3 more wickets. Sohail is on 54 and if he can make some quick runs they can surpass lead of 250+ which will be enough considered the way Pakistan has bowled in first innings.

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^^^^ If everyone in the Pakistan batting lineup plays like Babar Azam, then they will be the no.1 ranking test team in the world. But that is the problem with Pakistan. The entire workload is falling on the shoulders of a few players, with few others contributing. BTW, what happened to Fakhar Zaman? The combination (Babar-Zaman) was the backbone of Pakistan batting earlier. Babar also performs well, when he is batting along with Zaman. The chemistry is very good, between these two payers.
legendary
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Babar Azam's last seven Test innings:

104
97
8
102*
60
100*
102*

Runs: 573
Hundreds: 4
Average: 143.25

Source: https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1226099611334512640

This is amazing! This guy can potentially beat Virat Kohli in upcoming years (but the problem is that Kohli continues to further evolve). Roll Eyes
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In response to Bangladesh total of 233 runs, Pakistan have started their innings very strongly and are 318/3 which means already a lead of 85 runs and 7 wickets still remaining. Babar is batting on 125 and Shan got out at exact 100. Asad is on 55 and this looks like Pakistan can take 250+ lead easily and end up winning by innings as well.



Pakistan seem to have taken total control of this match first they managed to bowl out Bangladesh for a low total, and now they’re cruising ahead with a strong lead of 109 runs at the end of the days play. If Pakistan continues at this rate then I expect them to lead by at least 300 runs, and then declare their innings as that will give them the chance to beat Bangladesh by an innings.
Now both Babar and Asad doing good look like they can tough 550+ and then Bangladesh could be in serious trouble and can lost this match by one inning may be this match will end in four days and ICC could be happy with this because now they are already working on this purpose of four days test match Bangladesh is suddenly going down badly after Shakib they need to get out of this situation quickly.
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In response to Bangladesh total of 233 runs, Pakistan have started their innings very strongly and are 318/3 which means already a lead of 85 runs and 7 wickets still remaining. Babar is batting on 125 and Shan got out at exact 100. Asad is on 55 and this looks like Pakistan can take 250+ lead easily and end up winning by innings as well.



Pakistan seem to have taken total control of this match first they managed to bowl out Bangladesh for a low total, and now they’re cruising ahead with a strong lead of 109 runs at the end of the days play. If Pakistan continues at this rate then I expect them to lead by at least 300 runs, and then declare their innings as that will give them the chance to beat Bangladesh by an innings.
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