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Quote from: BitSat19 on December 30, 2019, 07:51:16 AM

Quota system and this Kolpak both real enemies of South African cricket they have to work on this as they are losing too many good players which are hurting them in recently.

Vernon Philander is a direct beneficiary of the quota system. He was selected ahead of an in-form Kyle Abbott during the semi-final of the 2015 CWC, just because of the quota system. The captain (AB de Villiers) had open fights with the selectors, due to this decision. A lot of controversy was generated from this incident and Abbott retired from international cricket and secured a Kolpak deal with Hampshire. But the biggest blow to South African cricket happened when AB de Villiers quit international cricket.

Now after all this controversy, isn't it ironical that Philander himself secured a Kolpak deal? I don't know whether South Africa can lose any more of their experienced players to Kolpak. During the last decade or so, they have lost more than 50 of their top players.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 30, 2019, 03:04:16 AM

How can you blame a single player for the bad performance of the majority of the team? Completely disagree. South Africa outclassed them plain and simple. Philander was awesome.

LOL... Philander was awesome.. and he has gone Kolpak now. From next month onward, he will be representing Somerset in English county championship instead of the South African national team. BTW, I heard that Dwaine Pretorius received a similar Kolpak deal from Nottinghamshire. But for some unknown reason, he rejected it and chose to stick with the Proteas.

Quota system and this Kolpak both real enemies of South African cricket they have to work on this as they are losing too many good players which are hurting them in recently.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 30, 2019, 03:04:16 AM

How can you blame a single player for the bad performance of the majority of the team? Completely disagree. South Africa outclassed them plain and simple. Philander was awesome.

LOL... Philander was awesome.. and he has gone Kolpak now. From next month onward, he will be representing Somerset in English county championship instead of the South African national team. BTW, I heard that Dwaine Pretorius received a similar Kolpak deal from Nottinghamshire. But for some unknown reason, he rejected it and chose to stick with the Proteas.

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Oh well, ICC pitching the idea of 4 day tests. They do have some solid points behind this though, let's see how international community (Cricketers) reacts on it in coming days.

ICC to consider mandatory four-day Tests

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 29, 2019, 10:42:46 PM

It was a disappointing match for England, after all the hard work they put in to bowl out South Africa for less than 300 in both the innings. The decision by Joe Root, to send South Africa to bat first was wrong.

How can you blame a single player for the bad performance of the majority of the team? Completely disagree. South Africa outclassed them plain and simple. Philander was awesome.

Quote from: eaLiTy on December 29, 2019, 06:40:57 PM

The current England Test squad lacks the experience to play the long version and more over the technique to play longer innings and the moving ball creates all the issues for the England batsman, Burns played a good innings and he gave a good start in the second innings but none of the other batsman could play a long innings and the fate of the series depends upon how the England side recovers from the illness and perform and they need to find quality Test players.

Exactly. England is not a great test team at present(They barely drew the Ashes thanks to some heroic performances) while South Africa recovered spectacularly thought they are still very inconsistent at present.

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It was a disappointing match for England, after all the hard work they put in to bowl out South Africa for less than 300 in both the innings. The decision by Joe Root, to send South Africa to bat first was wrong. They should have batted first and built a score around 300. Anyway, the next match will start on 3rd January and England may be still hoping to win the series and improve their ranking in the ICC Test Championship table.

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Quote from: mersal on December 29, 2019, 08:36:37 AM

Losing wickets too early on a test match shows how inexperienced players were playing for them which is the team found the cricket.They need to have experience along with skills to play longer format of the cricket hope they will swap the team on next match and will find the better combination.

The current England Test squad lacks the experience to play the long version and more over the technique to play longer innings and the moving ball creates all the issues for the England batsman, Burns played a good innings and he gave a good start in the second innings but none of the other batsman could play a long innings and the fate of the series depends upon how the England side recovers from the illness and perform and they need to find quality Test players.

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Quote from: onrise on December 29, 2019, 12:00:12 PM

SA deserved to win the match because they played well right from the start of the match and England failed in the first innings which caused them this match. Though England came back and played well in second inning then the first but it was still not a match winning game for them.

If you neglect the performance of the openers for England in the second innings, then none of the players performed other than Joe Root who managed to score 48 runs and some are single digit scores and the turnaround was when they took the new ball Rabada bowled a wonderful spell taking all the wickets, before that i thought there is a possibility that England can win the match as long as Root was in the crease.

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Quote from: mersal on December 29, 2019, 08:06:02 AM

ENG got all out for 268,the match could be won if the players respected the good balls. Roll Eyes

Deserved win for south Africa after the excellent performance by their bowlers and good contribution from the batting partners as well.

England start was very good there was some hope they will fight till end but they have another collapse which kill chance of win opener done good job but still they need some good batsmen in middle order which can give them some good support no solid batsman available to give some support in late order which hurt them.

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Quote from: mersal on December 29, 2019, 08:06:02 AM

ENG got all out for 268,the match could be won if the players respected the good balls. Roll Eyes

Deserved win for south Africa after the excellent performance by their bowlers and good contribution from the batting partners as well.

SA deserved to win the match because they played well right from the start of the match and England failed in the first innings which caused them this match. Though England came back and played well in second inning then the first but it was still not a match winning game for them.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 29, 2019, 08:15:37 AM

Quote from: mersal on December 29, 2019, 08:06:02 AM

ENG got all out for 268,the match could be won if the players respected the good balls. Roll Eyes

Deserved win for south Africa after the excellent performance by their bowlers and good contribution from the batting partners as well.

When the England openers started really well i thought they will fight till the end but they lost all the wickets for 176 runs after reaching 92 runs for the first wicket and that shows how weak their Test team is, the rest of the members are filled with T20 and ODI specialist and that is the problem as they are not able to stay in the crease for a long time and come up with consistent performance in the longer version.

Losing wickets too early on a test match shows how inexperienced players were playing for them which is the team found the cricket.They need to have experience along with skills to play longer format of the cricket hope they will swap the team on next match and will find the better combination.

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Quote from: mersal on December 29, 2019, 08:06:02 AM

ENG got all out for 268,the match could be won if the players respected the good balls. Roll Eyes

Deserved win for south Africa after the excellent performance by their bowlers and good contribution from the batting partners as well.

When the England openers started really well i thought they will fight till the end but they lost all the wickets for 176 runs after reaching 92 runs for the first wicket and that shows how weak their Test team is, the rest of the members are filled with T20 and ODI specialist and that is the problem as they are not able to stay in the crease for a long time and come up with consistent performance in the longer version.

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Quote from: akhjob on December 28, 2019, 11:54:13 AM

I believe that it was a good thing that I cashed out my bet on SA early at 1.5x. Considering the current scenario, I believe that ENG now have a chance to win this match.

Damn shouldn't have closed the bet early it was an easy 2.3x profit Undecided

Anyways, happy that I didn't lose anything in this one.
Anybody made a bet on SA to win this match?

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ENG got all out for 268,the match could be won if the players respected the good balls. Roll Eyes

Deserved win for south Africa after the excellent performance by their bowlers and good contribution from the batting partners as well.

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Quote from: mersal on December 29, 2019, 07:26:18 AM

^ 6th wicket down, can South African bowlers expose the tails of ENG?

Possibly yes, if they make it possible will greatly boost the confidence for their further matches in 2020.

SA now just requires another 3 wickets to win the match and England require another 127 runs to win the match. Butler is on the crease so would like to make maximum number of runs as on other hand we have Archer who can also bat a bit but not that reliable who can hang on.

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^ 6th wicket down, can South African bowlers expose the tails of ENG?

Possibly yes, if they make it possible will greatly boost the confidence for their further matches in 2020.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 29, 2019, 02:50:05 AM

Burns is hanging on at the moment, but I still think South Africa will win this one easily since England is under immense pressure and I am expecting a collapse once Burns gets out. Most of the batsmen lower down the order are great ODI and T-20 batsmen(Not Test batsmen except Root).

England lost their 5th wicket and still need 153 runs to win the match and there is plenty of time and the advantage for England right now is that Joe Root is still in the crease and if South Africa need to win then they need to pick his wicket and he is accompanied by Buttler and one more wicket and then the tail will get expose and it is interesting to see how Buttler is going to approach the match, will he try to smash the ball rather than holding on to his wicket.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 29, 2019, 06:15:27 AM

How many of you watching this game?

Its keep getting interesting ball after ball, spell after spell Grin

Ben stokes out, England is 4 down now and need 168 runs . They have 3 recognized batsmen left Root,Bairstow, Buttler.

Now England need 156 runs Root and Baristow on and South Africa going to take new ball its very important time for both teams Rabada going to start with new ball and Root survived and Bairstow four on first new ball very interesting match still balanced for both sides.

Edit Bairstow gone on second ball of new ball.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 29, 2019, 06:15:27 AM

How many of you watching this game?

Its keep getting interesting ball after ball, spell after spell Grin

Ben stokes out, England is 4 down now and need 168 runs . They have 3 recognized batsmen left Root,Bairstow, Buttler.

I am not watching this game,but I am seeing the scores too often since the match is getting more excited.RSA really have a chance if they can tempt ENG tails to play strokes than defending balls.

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How many of you watching this game?

Its keep getting interesting ball after ball, spell after spell Grin

Ben stokes out, England is 4 down now and need 168 runs . They have 3 recognized batsmen left Root,Bairstow, Buttler.

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