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Topic: Thailand files complaint against Bitcoin Seasteader (Read 1386 times)

legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
first official seastead under that name.

The idea(s) conveyed by written words may be slanderous.

1.
Defamation is an area of law that provides a civil remedy when someone's words end up causing harm to your reputation or your livelihood. Libel is a written or published defamatory statement, while slander is a spoken defamatory statement.

2. there are other sea steads that have been around for decades.
cough 'sealand 1967' cough hundreds of oilrigs

however the pod built by someone else and just used as an occassional holiday hut by elwar does not define the term seastead
it had no water cleaning, no way to grow food, no sanitation system.. it definetly was not made for long term liviing

even under the definition that elwar proposed in many investment pitches it failed to be described as such
and in the definition of what he believes he is being accused of doing and denying he done such shows how he doesnt want to define it as a seastead

it might be worth you really checking things before replying.. because the more you post the more revealing your lack of knowedge becomes


Don't you think that it's about time that you learned a little more of the law than the freeman sliver you keep on talking about?

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legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1150
Freedom&Honor
oh elwar.. i can already see his plan B. he wants to do a edward snowdon style publicity script making out a country wants to kill him..
but elwar main goal is doing public appearances and ride that money train next.
.. nice braces by the way,
im guessing your publicist advised you to correct your teeth before proper public appearances in the near future

i have been watching elwar for years and seen he was always riding the exhaust trails of big money. trying to seek millions in investments with no real big returns.
seeking double figure millions to buy a boat so 15 people can ave meetings on to discuss next campaign
and even with investments coming in he just used like $30k(doesnt look like 150k costs) for a small pod that he only visits for youtube segments just for promoting..

sorry i just dont see elwar as a true figure head for 'freeing' the planet of corrupt government control of citizens. he is a secret capitalist in libertarian sheepskin

Libertarian and capitalist are literally the same thing. There is no other system which honors the 'live and let live' rule.
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
first official seastead under that name.

The idea(s) conveyed by written words may be slanderous.

1.
Defamation is an area of law that provides a civil remedy when someone's words end up causing harm to your reputation or your livelihood. Libel is a written or published defamatory statement, while slander is a spoken defamatory statement.

2. there are other sea steads that have been around for decades.
cough 'sealand 1967' cough hundreds of oilrigs

however the pod built by someone else and just used as an occassional holiday hut by elwar does not define the term seastead
it had no water cleaning, no way to grow food, no sanitation system.. it definetly was not made for long term liviing

even under the definition that elwar proposed in many investment pitches it failed to be described as such
and in the definition of what he believes he is being accused of doing and denying he done such shows how he doesnt want to define it as a seastead

it might be worth you really checking things before replying.. because the more you post the more revealing your lack of knowedge becomes
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Poor Elwar. Isn't even here to defend himself, and all you want to do is slander him. Don't you feel ashamed?

i have spoken to elwar and he very well knows how i feel about his actions.
maybe you should probably learn more about him and then maybe you will not be defending him like an auto-fan just because you seen him on youtube

by the way written words are not slander.

I have spoken to Elwar. He knows how I feel about his actions. Learning more about him doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he did the first official seastead under that name.

The idea(s) conveyed by written words may be slanderous.

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legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
Poor Elwar. Isn't even here to defend himself, and all you want to do is slander him. Don't you feel ashamed?

i have spoken to elwar and he very well knows how i feel about his actions.
maybe you should probably learn more about him and then maybe you will not be defending him like an auto-fan just because you seen him on youtube

by the way written words are not slander.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Hearsay...

... or do you have the court docs where he was convicted.

Everybody makes mistakes, even you.

What goes around comes around.

It seems that Elwar won't be doing a lot real fast. If you don't like him, don't go to Anarchapulco.

one thing you keep fooling yourself over is that punishment only belongs in the court room.
you think the answer to everything is to go to trial. yet the foolish thing is you have no clue of all the processes involved to even get to a trial court.

try it one day, try to piss off someone in a bar with your foolish rhetoric. enjoy the hospital bill.
oh and you would be the one with the harassment record if you think you can make a claim. because knowing how you interact with people. the judge will take the side of the person defending themselves against your harassment

in short. think before you speak. or in this forums concern, research before you post

Poor Elwar. Isn't even here to defend himself, and all you want to do is slander him. Don't you feel ashamed?

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legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
Hearsay...

... or do you have the court docs where he was convicted.

Everybody makes mistakes, even you.

What goes around comes around.

It seems that Elwar won't be doing a lot real fast. If you don't like him, don't go to Anarchapulco.

one thing you keep fooling yourself over is that punishment only belongs in the court room.
you think the answer to everything is to go to trial. yet the foolish thing is you have no clue of all the processes involved to even get to a trial court.

try it one day, try to piss off someone in a bar with your foolish rhetoric. enjoy the hospital bill.
oh and you would be the one with the harassment record if you think you can make a claim. because knowing how you interact with people. the judge will take the side of the person defending themselves against your harassment

in short. think before you speak. or in this forums concern, research before you post
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Hearsay...

... or do you have the court docs where he was convicted.

Everybody makes mistakes, even you.

What goes around comes around.

It seems that Elwar won't be doing a lot real fast. If you don't like him, don't go to Anarchapulco.

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legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
If Elwar can get stuff for free, all the more power to him... just so long as he doesn't take advantage of someone. People had reasons for giving him what they gave him for free.

and the whole point is he has taken advantage of people
people were promised citizenships and homes to live in.
all they got was a video of a pod he stayed in a few times while also going to tahiti to ride jetski's while he was supposedly 'having business meetings'

try to look at all his actions over the last few years. dont just be an auto-fan because he featured on youtube and auto-believe his account.
RESEARCH
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
How in the world dense are you? Living for free and getting rich is what everybody wants... except you, apparently. The only reason people don't try to do this very much is that they are trapped on land. Government regs won't let them.

Since there aren't any clear boundaries in the distant ocean, why not live free out there, living off the fish that you can catch? And if you can make a few bucks by showing others how to do it, why not? Elwar simply wasn't careful enough to go out farther.

nothing in live is free even in a currencyless society. it takes time and effort to do things.
elwar however didnt want to do the hard work he wanted someone else to build the pod someone else set it up, so that he can just holiday there a few evenings a week making videos and then try getting money for nothing. then when crap hits the fan. finger point and blame others

Oh, man. No wonder. You think nothing in life is free. You do have arms and legs, don't you?

Think about somebody who has lost an arm or a leg. How much does it cost to get a new one? If it's a cheap one, it doesn't really work very well. If it's an expensive one, it never is as good as the original. And just how much did it cost you to get the originals? Essentially nothing, except the little bit of exercise that you had to do to make them grow.

But let's say you are more like Stephen Hawking. You still got what you got essentially for free.

If Elwar can get stuff for free, all the more power to him... just so long as he doesn't take advantage of someone. People had reasons for giving him what they gave him for free.

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legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
How in the world dense are you? Living for free and getting rich is what everybody wants... except you, apparently. The only reason people don't try to do this very much is that they are trapped on land. Government regs won't let them.

Since there aren't any clear boundaries in the distant ocean, why not live free out there, living off the fish that you can catch? And if you can make a few bucks by showing others how to do it, why not? Elwar simply wasn't careful enough to go out farther.

nothing in live is free even in a currencyless society. it takes time and effort to do things.
elwar however didnt want to do the hard work he wanted someone else to build the pod someone else set it up, so that he can just holiday there a few evenings a week making videos and then try getting money for nothing. then when crap hits the fan. finger point and blame others
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
ok this badecker vs franky1 bit about grammar etc.. can we stop now?

i ignore punctuation and such too. its my style in forums. ignore me if it bothers anyone.

now as for Elwar and the seastead.. sure mistakes were made. if mistakes we NOT made then they were not trying hard enough. But he is doing what many others would not, which is not giving up the dream when setbacks occurred. learn, try again. thats how we win.

and i see Elwar out there pushing boundaries in a technology that could solve many of our problems while we are stuck on this rock. not many here can say that (not including coin devs etc of course).

yes there are still many problems with seasteads, and they wont get solved by ignoring them. but at least someone is trying.. not just Elwar of course but he seems most visable because of the "Thailand invasion."

Elwar, best of luck with your dreams. already youve accomplished more than most of us can even dream of.

elwars dream was not to be a seasteader, his dream was to live for free(no cost) and to get rich. yes his main income platform was seasteading but even he couldnt live 24/7 in the middle of the ocean all year

as for seasteadin themselves as noted a few pages ago. even they have not learned their lessons by still pushing the "12mile" number. the elwar drama should have made them atleast be within of a 25+mile number to be spouting out about

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as you can see although 0 is above 12mile  territory line if those in 0 started to do their own citizenship and want to set up their own colony/country/democracy/political system. the 12 mile of the 0 overlaps the 12 mile of the mainland
and thats the issue

but hell elwar ran off and finger pointed the blame of the project at other people and pretended he was not seasteading..
shows how not so pioneering he is after all.

but he certainly enjoyed the profits from his adventures

How in the world dense are you? Living for free and getting rich is what everybody wants... except you, apparently. The only reason people don't try to do this very much is that they are trapped on land. Government regs won't let them.

Since there aren't any clear boundaries in the distant ocean, why not live free out there, living off the fish that you can catch? And if you can make a few bucks by showing others how to do it, why not? Elwar simply wasn't careful enough to go out farther.

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legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
ok this badecker vs franky1 bit about grammar etc.. can we stop now?

i ignore punctuation and such too. its my style in forums. ignore me if it bothers anyone.

now as for Elwar and the seastead.. sure mistakes were made. if mistakes we NOT made then they were not trying hard enough. But he is doing what many others would not, which is not giving up the dream when setbacks occurred. learn, try again. thats how we win.

and i see Elwar out there pushing boundaries in a technology that could solve many of our problems while we are stuck on this rock. not many here can say that (not including coin devs etc of course).

yes there are still many problems with seasteads, and they wont get solved by ignoring them. but at least someone is trying.. not just Elwar of course but he seems most visable because of the "Thailand invasion."

Elwar, best of luck with your dreams. already youve accomplished more than most of us can even dream of.

elwars dream was not to be a seasteader, his dream was to live for free(no cost) and to get rich. yes his main income platform was seasteading but even he couldnt live 24/7 in the middle of the ocean all year

as for seasteadin themselves as noted a few pages ago. even they have not learned their lessons by still pushing the "12mile" number. the elwar drama should have made them atleast be within of a 25+mile number to be spouting out about

__| _ 0 _ |___
    \ ____/
as you can see although 0 is above 12mile  territory line if those in 0 started to do their own citizenship and want to set up their own colony/country/democracy/political system. the 12 mile of the 0 overlaps the 12 mile of the mainland
and thats the issue

but hell elwar ran off and finger pointed the blame of the project at other people and pretended he was not seasteading..
shows how not so pioneering he is after all.

but he certainly enjoyed the profits from his adventures
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 3614
what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
ok this badecker vs franky1 bit about grammar etc.. can we stop now?

i ignore punctuation and such too. its my style in forums. ignore me if it bothers anyone.

now as for Elwar and the seastead.. sure mistakes were made. if mistakes we NOT made then they were not trying hard enough. But he is doing what many others would not, which is not giving up the dream when setbacks occurred. learn, try again. thats how we win.

and i see Elwar out there pushing boundaries in a technology that could solve many of our problems while we are stuck on this rock. not many here can say that (not including coin devs etc of course).

yes there are still many problems with seasteads, and they wont get solved by ignoring them. but at least someone is trying.. not just Elwar of course but he seems most visable because of the "Thailand invasion."

Elwar, best of luck with your dreams. already youve accomplished more than most of us can even dream of.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
your rebuttles are boring. its your posts not my intestines you should concern yourself with.

try doing some research next time and stop just becoming an auto-fan because you see someone on youtube

It's your intestines, not my rebuttals you should be concerning yourself with. Try googling "Death begins in the Colon." As for research, I have been informing you about it for quite sometime. If you would take time to check it out, it might even strengthen your intestinal fortitude.

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legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
your rebuttles are boring. its your posts not my intestines you should concern yourself with.

try doing some research next time and stop just becoming an auto-fan because you see someone on youtube
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
^^^ Often people become tired from working. In your case (the yawn), it's from intestinal disorders. Elwar shows what freedom is all about. You barely have enough intestinal fortitude to yawn.

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legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
another boring reply from badecker.
(yawn)
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Nobody knows what is really in the heart of another person until he acts. I'm not going to say that parking a seastead next to Thailand was wise. But we don't know that Elwar did it with hostile intent. And, we don't know that he did it with anything other than what he said and showed, to live free and promote a business of making seasteads.

If his plan was to popularize himself, so what? Lots of people do this kind of thing. It's a dog-eat-dog world in the world of business. Even you are popularizing yourself by being the guy who doesn't use proper punctuation and grammar. So, nobody can tell what you are really saying... a built-in disclaimer.

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seems the only thing you can knitpick about me is my grammar. ok i fully understand the limits of your rebuttles
but that just has more to say about you then me

elwars actions have been visible for yours. its called research. i know you prefer to be told what to think rather than do some actual research. but again thats something only you have to deal with.

as for elwars actions he is not trying to promote businesses that are actually going to flourish. he just loves the whole kickstarter money grab promotions and the excitement, which people that do ico's love so much.. while they later run off

elwars morals are not on the same path as his words or actions. making it obvious he is not interested in the underlying concept/purpose of certain projects. he justs wants to ride the viral buzz of new famed projects for the money grabs

elwars morals are obviously lacking due to the fact that one month promotes himself as the guy making a seastead and wants to offer birth certification to the seastead. then when in trouble point fingers and say other people were the ones that done it and he was just a volunteer guest

but if you want to get personal about me, havnt you learned already even through your lenses of grammar nazism that i just dont care. my content is what matters not the presentation

many people can understand what i say. infact smart people can understand this total grammar nazi crime:
1f 40u c4n r34d 7h15 th3n 40u d0n7 n33d 70 83 4 9r4mm4r n4z1

by the way a phones autocorrect grammar check is not a talent. its a reliance on services that watch what your write

Thanks for the warnings about Elwar. Did you force anyone to follow your warnings? No? Good! We still have freedom.

Did you get that? You still have freedom to use poor grammar and punctuation. What it means is that I might have been wrong about your Elwar warnings. Maybe you meant something else entirely, and it wasn't apparent because of your poor grammar and punctuation, etc. If this is the case, please pardon me.

Btw, since you are so into poor punctuation and grammar, maybe you don't really understand anything you read, especially if it has good grammar and punctuation. So, maybe you were really inviting us to join Elwar's programs. Who can really tell?

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legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
Nobody knows what is really in the heart of another person until he acts. I'm not going to say that parking a seastead next to Thailand was wise. But we don't know that Elwar did it with hostile intent. And, we don't know that he did it with anything other than what he said and showed, to live free and promote a business of making seasteads.

If his plan was to popularize himself, so what? Lots of people do this kind of thing. It's a dog-eat-dog world in the world of business. Even you are popularizing yourself by being the guy who doesn't use proper punctuation and grammar. So, nobody can tell what you are really saying... a built-in disclaimer.

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seems the only thing you can knitpick about me is my grammar. ok i fully understand the limits of your rebuttles
but that just has more to say about you then me

elwars actions have been visible for yours. its called research. i know you prefer to be told what to think rather than do some actual research. but again thats something only you have to deal with.

as for elwars actions he is not trying to promote businesses that are actually going to flourish. he just loves the whole kickstarter money grab promotions and the excitement, which people that do ico's love so much.. while they later run off

elwars morals are not on the same path as his words or actions. making it obvious he is not interested in the underlying concept/purpose of certain projects. he justs wants to ride the viral buzz of new famed projects for the money grabs

elwars morals are obviously lacking due to the fact that one month promotes himself as the guy making a seastead and wants to offer birth certification to the seastead. then when in trouble point fingers and say other people were the ones that done it and he was just a volunteer guest

but if you want to get personal about me, havnt you learned already even through your lenses of grammar nazism that i just dont care. my content is what matters not the presentation

many people can understand what i say. infact smart people can understand this total grammar nazi crime:
1f 40u c4n r34d 7h15 th3n 40u d0n7 n33d 70 83 4 9r4mm4r n4z1

by the way a phones autocorrect grammar check is not a talent. its a reliance on services that watch what your write
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