JaredR26, oh god man you really pinned me down, Wow you refuted my arguments completely!
Just a couple of questions because I think I have been doing it wrong my whole life, you know being a software engineer and all (I don't brag my background, If I do I would be a shitty one, I am just a bad one):
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all claims that Ukyo is lying about the problem need to stop *RIGHT FUCKING NOW.* That would include Bitcoin developers like Luke-jr or Gavin, or anyone else who can prove what they are claiming.
I am sorry isn't this a double sided argument? I mean since the technology is "new" and have a "scaling" issue, Shouldn't you stop to defend Ukyo "*RIGHT FUCKING NOW.*" unless you can reproduce his claimed error?
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Ukyo is under no obligation to do things the way you want., He IS under obligation to
properly respond and adhere to the consequences of his actions. The
demands section is merely the norm and de facto for how would other professionals handle it when "shit hit the fan".
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First of all, Ukyo is not under any obligation to do things your way
, Unlike you I actually read the other guy's arguement before responding to it, This point was just mentioned in the previous point, I hate redundancy it makes the code ugly, I cannot imagine codes you write....
It sounds like his wallets may have thousands to tens of thousands of addresses/private keys, which might well break Electrum the same way. Even simply exporting all of these addresses would be a difficult proposition, and exporting/importing is necessary for libbitcoin as well.
Oh god and all the time I thought experiments could prove a result but it was all about how it "sounds"
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4. Demands and ETA -
Ukyo is not dealing with a simple physical labor problem. Software problems are complex and unpredictable. He can't give an ETA for how long it would take to solve the problem because he can't possibly know. Again, anyone who is an experienced software developer can step in here and tell me I am wrong, but they won't. The entire software industry is habitually late delivering despite best efforts(and crunch time) to avoid it.
I know right! you are absolutely right! All software project managers are insane to give an ETA! projects and mile stones don't have ETAs, It is just happy go lucky agile programming all day, If the Debian or Gnome project only knew that they might have been more productive.....
5. Fractional reserve claim -
This claim is completely unsubstantiated. The "word going around" does not represent reality nor is it a fact, and therefore it is not something you can make a demand. If you're going to make that accusation, you need proof. The burden of proof is on you buddy, not him.
Discuss the argument buddy, no faeces throwing please:
Facts are facts and they state that Ukyo closed Bitfunder because there are not enough funds to pursue legalizing state of bitfunder, Ukyo delayed the dividents of G.ASICMINER-PT for a whole week claiming he needed Friedcat to tell him the amount for the divs per share, a very easy argument to defeat which is knowing that amount just a few hours after the dividents is very easy from TAT, Jutarul, The online list and forum posts. Seeking consistency from several users from the public addresses and ASICMINER div transaction is very very easy. Which leads to the very simple conclusion that Ukyo basically did not have the funds and needed longer time to accumulate them.
This makes it very easy to reach the conclusion that the error on WeExchange happens simply because the wallet on the bitcoind daemon server DOES NOT have enough funds to create such transactions, recently it sometimes had it and sometimes did not, But now it is simply an empty wallet.
Aaaaand
And the fact that your demand is for a signed message from an address with the coin shows that you clearly have no grasp of this problem, and are in no position to be making a scam accusation. He can't sign from an address with the coin because no single address has the coin. If a single address did have the coin, bitcoind wouldn't be choking. Bitcoin is choking because the coin has been fractioned out over thousands(or tens of thousands) of addresses. Sure, if you want, I'm sure he could spend a week generating the 10,000 signatures necessary to account for all the coin. And you could spend a week verifying all of those. But I think everyone else here would rather he just continue working on the problem at hand.
Ok tell me if I got this wrong, Every single Bitcoin is identical to the other Bitcoin, to the satoshi level they are all equal.
If I did not get that wrong may I ask why did you assume I wanted him to sign these exact Bitcoins?
The signature would just prove that "yes I am Ukyo and I can cover this amount and here is the proof", This would break the arguments of not having enough funds.
6. Disabling withdraw from Weexchange
While this isn't a bad idea, it doesn't really solve anything. They can't withdraw now but they at least have a process to get a slow withdrawal started. Under your way they still couldn't withdraw, but now have no process to get one started. Doesn't seem to gain much.
Hey software-engineer-san,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation, When time is infinite (no ETA), You cannot use "Slow" or "Fast".
Wow so that explains when Amazon had a bug where I can buy but never get my stuff yet my money is subtracted from my account, silly me for asking them an ETA to solve the problem...... of course if they have this problem happening to everyone it is very silly to ask them to stop the buying feature as well
And lastly, Lophie you are in no position personally to be making scam accusations. Firstly, you clearly don't have a grasp on the technical problems Ukyo has described, else you would not have demanded a signed message and made yourself look stupid. Secondly, I've caught you lying publically at least twice, so you should have left this scam accusation to someone with a clean record. Someone not approaching problems the way YOU demand does not make them a scammer.
mmmmm, I actually do, The request for a signed message is explained above again maybe this time would understand (Yeah I get that in meetings too sometimes they just have to repeat what they just said even though I can read it over and over in the text in front of me)
Ouch so I lied publicly twice (at least), so my record is not clean
, oh I have to return the money I stole first before posting it is not like I lied because I was ashamed of pulling out of an auction because I had a life crisis or anything.....
Disclaimer: I enjoy being shut down by a nice counter argument but I find faeces throwing rather disgusting and unprofessional
