Topic: The 94% Con by Jon Montroll - page 35. (Read 85034 times)

2013-11-17 Withdraw   9.08146630 BTC Processing

Just transferred my last coins out of WeEx/BitFunder:
Total: 12.12316075

Please either add a username or a transaction ID these are just amounts and there is no way for Ukyo to even find them unless there is the coincidence that there is no other withdrawals with the same exact amounts.

Date    2013-11-07 18:10:50
Transaction ID    pr5svxyA2suAqcjWs3VLfxlev1642Ene
Type    Withdraw
Debit    15.70391641 BTC
Credit    
Fee    0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction    
Status    Processing

These are mine so far:

2013-11-17 18:54:08   Withdraw   1.32756000 BTC      Processing
2013-11-07 20:43:38   Withdraw   1.29067248 BTC      Processing

Anyone who made a successful withdraw is welcome to post here too.

i have take a withdraw 2 weeks ago ,but is not get through  

2013-11-05 05:57:33   BTC   5.00000000   5.00000000   Withdraw   Processing
2013-11-05 05:58:38   BTC   1.86780000   1.86780000   Withdraw   Processing
2013-11-16 03:02:06   BTC   0.10000000   0.10000000   Withdraw   Processing

Username   WeExchange ID                                 Amount                Time Stamp
 
-               rXenKgF6L2NgRps9Ii5MoqQLb10XocQi    3.00000000 BTC     2013-11-14 01:30:05   
-               ln8HUFVb4Uoc8RE4NYBtWXyYqj0bH3II   5.00000000 BTC     2013-11-14 01:31:15         
-               c4odba5unVx0OnFXQF0HktHnoP4uuakN  1.62805841 BTC     2013-11-14 01:31:46   

Username   WeExchange ID                                                  Amount                                Time Stamp

Falko0815  DkcQSadTbyuqcuOD2R4a2UqB0zvnGPZW                    13.3                                        2013-10-28 12:36:12

My BTC is still stuck in WeExchange. Will post some details later.

Username	WeExchange ID	Amount	Time Stamp
jimmydorry	XXw7oIRTNImdQ3T2JeO4BNvBjEUFTFAg	2.28360144 BTC	2013-11-13 18:18:59

I assume the WeExchange ID is the WeExchange transaction ID.

Username          WeExchange ID                                 Amount                  Time Stamp
marcox     tWu1D0EccouQUAaphm1ZZzFTSdP8DWVs    0.89445361         2013-11-06 05:27:03
marcox     H8IXDh2Hs8qIMAXf8kM855ZQoGFRhZJA       2.60710030         2013-11-07 18:29:44
marcox     lzku8uFDzD5DcvooGGRnlB2celktFkPu           2.47134580         2013-11-10 19:25:03

Ukyo, PLZ. I still trust you.

If you may share the above info (You can leave WeExchange username out), I will add it to the list.

I accidentally deposited 0.3 BTC (https://blockchain.info/address/1LN99wLNnNdqEh2ADyEvWVYViTtcrfHBvC) today and immediately withdrew once the payment cleared.    This was 3 hours ago and I'm still waiting...

I add my requests too, I trusted Ukyo but I'm loosing my faith day by day he keeps to remain vague about this issue. Avoid blocking withdrawals from weexchange seems odd, too.

Username          WeExchange ID                                 Amount                  Time Stamp
Pompolus     uIIxCevq18AuQe1i2jTftijKq6Fj03cf            5.49994209BTC   2013-11-02
Pompolus     GlWNK4426syVhELe97ew7K62gOmqtfD3     5.00000000BTC    2013-11-02


stucked since november 2nd, 17 days and counting

Latest News:: Ukyo Ran To Cyprus!
THE BITCOINS ARE NO LONGER THERE, OUR BITCOINS ARE LOST! Ukyo LEFT TO CYPRUS BUT HIS FAMILY ARE STILL IN TEXAS. GET YOUR PITCHFORKS AND GO TO TEXAS. WE WILL POST HIS HOME ADDRESS PUBLICLY HERE TOMORROW! PLUS HIS PERSONAL CELLPHONE NUMBER

What happened::

     Ukyo is the operator of WeExchange.co. Recently trying to withdraw anything from the exchange would result into an error message "Could not connect to 2nd stage server." and thus getting the bitcoins stuck in WeExchange. throughout the past several weeks Ukyo was active and communicative regarding this issue and indeed manually he processed many stuck withdrawal requests.

In the very recent couple of days the error occurrences jumped from unlikely, likely, most likely and currently it is definitely! Currently every single withdrawal from WeExchange results into a "Could not connect to 2nd stage server." error.

This SCAM accusation thread is actually the last straw before a full blown scam accusation and finger pointing, it tries to explain the impatience with Ukyo and why, currently, it is more likely that Ukyo simply does not have the funds at all! In the worst case scenario we hope to get Ukyo a Scammer tag simply because he is not taking the means of tagging himself "I am not a scammer!". His arguements along with ours are to be listed and discussed below after the general information of the SCAM template.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ukyo-35121

Reference Link: (Current list of locked funds)

Amount Scammed (Currently): Simply millions        

Payment Method: BTC deposit

Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/address/126xgFue6fgkmCqNCY6ypaqzzk78NPPwEZ, But  actually unless Ukyo admit owning these addressess' private keys, this is not a sufficient proof.

The Argument:

     After pressing Ukyo to give an explanation regarding the error he claims that the server hosting bitcoind daemon fails to comply with the RPC command that is made by WeExchange server to withdraw some bitcoins to a users' given btc address and amount. He claims to be seeking help around to solve this problem. He claims that the trigger of this problem is the accumulation of a large number of private keys held by that bitcoind daemon. In the recent past of a few weeks this problem occurs (occasionally) and now it always occurs for every single withdrawal request. He claims that he tried to add more resources and changing the host systems with no different results

    I personally proposed the following: I proposed Ukyo change the software backend to libbitcoin which can handle larger amounts of private keys held due to its design. I also proposed he uses Electrum 1.9 connecting to nodes using Tor (with writing some RPC wrappings). More importantly I urged Ukyo to STOP the withdrawal functionality due to the instability of the automation system, and currently the system is completely not working.

    Facts are facts and they state that Ukyo closed Bitfunder because there are not enough funds to pursue legalizing state of bitfunder,  Ukyo delayed the dividents of G.ASICMINER-PT for a whole week claiming he needed Friedcat to tell him the amount for the divs per share, a very easy argument to defeat which is knowing that amount just a few hours after the dividents is very easy from TAT, Jutarul, The online list and forum posts. Seeking consistency from several users from the public addresses and ASICMINER div transaction is very very easy. Which leads to the very simple conclusion that  Ukyo basically did not have the funds and needed longer time to accumulate them.

This makes it very easy to reach the conclusion that the error on WeExchange happens simply because the wallet on the bitcoind daemon server DOES NOT have enough funds to create such transactions, recently it sometimes had it and sometimes did not, But now it is simply an empty wallet.

In the next sections we have "demands" which we believe it will ease our minds regarding this (very-obvious-to-us) conclusion and assuring or Ukyo's seriousness and truthfulness regarding his claims and intentions to fix the problem. In the next couple of days -if not responded to by Ukyo- We are willing to post a dead line before seeking a scammer tag on his username and pursuing legal actions on his person. We believe it is only fair in case of his utmost ignorance to our dilemmas and suspicions.


PM/Chat Logs:

Additional Notes:

Demands:

• ETA:
       Ukyo so far avoid posting any ETA for either solving the problem or processing a certain withdrawal request. We are asking for a solid well defined ETA for each transaction to be processed.
  
  
• Proof of funds:
       The word going around is that Ukyo has gone fractional and that he does not have the funds to process all pending withdrawal requests. A signed message from an address he owns (msg:WeExchange transaction ID) with enough funds will shatter this rumour. We reached a place where asking for this is necessary.
  
  
• Disabling withdraw feature off WeExchange (or at least posting a warning):
       Wither Ukyo like it or not he DOES NOT have a working automatic system for withdrawals. He MUST either disable withdraw feature off WeExchange or at least post a warning.