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Now they have to face the Seahawks and the Packers along with the Saints.

Its very possible the saints are going to suck this year.
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And @chi cowboys always suck this year won't be any different.  Redskins have a tough schedule ahead of them but their d is tight.  Giants still gonna win it.

If I were to bet on the NFC East, I would pick the Giants.  But I always pick the Giants to win the conference (because I hate the cowboys,) and of course I'm often wrong.  WFT kinda shot themselves in the foot by winning the conference last year.  By doing so they added two tough games to their schedule.  Now they have to face the Seahawks and the Packers along with the Saints.

The Cowboys have Dak back, and Dak is far better than anything ya'll got over in New York.  The cowboys have some solid wide receivers, running backs etc.  Defense may be a bit suspect, but still.

Lol, a bit suspect?  Dak is actually a good QB, I'll give him that, but he won't line up as a linebacker, lol.  Dallas often has a great offense, at least they're productive in yards and points.  The only trouble is they're always playing catch-up.  I still think the Giants take the East, but I'm not willing to bet on that.  Tongue

I think WFT has a better chance than Dallas, honestly.


They aren't going to trade anything for a 1 year Jimmy rental though, San Fran will want to much.  And any multi-year deal kind of kills the whole point of drafting Mac 1st by burying him as the 3rd qb.  There's teams that will want Jimmy, Denver might be a good landing spot.  Or Carolina if Sam Darnold starts out terrible.

You never know.  Garoppolo would fit the Pats offense a lot better than Newton, and if Belichick want's Mac on the bench for a couple of years I could see him trying to make the deal.  I agree that the 9ers will want a hefty sum to recoup some of the draft stock they gave up to get Trey, so that might be the deciding factor.
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I think Darrell Henderson just got screwed with Sony Michel Trade.  I was planning on grabbing both, thought Michel wouldn't get traded until 6th week but this threw a wrench in a few of my value players I was gonna try to snipe.

This backfield was giving me some anxiety before Cam Akers went down but it doesn't as much anymore even with Sony Michel being picked up.  I still think the job is going to be Henderson's and lets face facts here too..Sony Michel is not good.  There is a reason the Pats were willing to trade him away.  Just my 2.

This will be interesting to see pan out. If I was in a league that was drafting right now I would grab him as a flyer but either way its a gamble with high payoff potential if henderson goes down. It should be fun to see how this pans out.
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I think Darrell Henderson just got screwed with Sony Michel Trade.  I was planning on grabbing both, thought Michel wouldn't get traded until 6th week but this threw a wrench in a few of my value players I was gonna try to snipe.

This backfield was giving me some anxiety before Cam Akers went down but it doesn't as much anymore even with Sony Michel being picked up.  I still think the job is going to be Henderson's and lets face facts here too..Sony Michel is not good.  There is a reason the Pats were willing to trade him away.  Just my 2.


I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol.  

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy

Agreed, they might also not reach the playoffs with Mac Jones. However, the trade deadline is on November. If the 49ers should resolve that they make Trey Lance their permanent no.1 quarterback before the deadline, is there a chance that Bill Belichick might try to get Jimmy Garoppolo?

No way not after taking Mac with the 1 this year and cam sitting there.  Jimmy isn't a huge upgrade.  Now if Aaron Rodgers becomes available that's a whole different story.  

And @chi cowboys always suck this year won't be any different.  Redskins have a tough schedule ahead of them but their d is tight.  Giants still gonna win it.  And Jan 2nd is a lock for the giants.  Will be the ff superbowl week too.  Might just need to take Danny dimes with my first pick in the draft! Lol

Lol you are off your rocker Sir Wheelz.  There is not a chance in hell that the Giants will finish in first place in that division.  The Cowboys have Dak back, and Dak is far better than anything ya'll got over in New York.  The cowboys have some solid wide receivers, running backs etc.  Defense may be a bit suspect, but still.  I also thing the WFT will be very solid..as you said their D is legit but so should be their offense. Fitzmagic is solid, their running back Gibson is a stud, some good WRs etc.  I am willing to make a side bet with you if you'd like sir?? Smiley

Don't threaten me with a good time.  Throw me some odds and I'm down.  If you want to be the house I will give you a bit of an edge against the current odds.  Straight up it makes no sense on my part will just pile on at current odds with the book.  Now if you want to bet straight up on the January 2nd game, I'm down.  Let's bet on the toilet bowl!

And Dallas always has a great offense yet they don't do squat year in and year out.  Dak is over rated.  He had probably the best o line in the league one year.  Look at what zeke did second half of last year with a crap line.  Nadda.  We both know rbs and qbs can be drastically change with line play.

How do we make that bet, I have to give you like a win or two or something?  I am certainly up for making it though of course. I also agree with Dak, he is a bit overrated but still, it's not like he sucks.
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I think we should just refer to him as "Covid Cam", sorta like Typhoid Mary. Smiley
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Is Cam Newton unvaccinated? It appears then that this has made Bill Belichick’s decision much easier hehe. I predict that we might see Cam Newton play on week 1, lose that game and Belichick will decide to let Mac Jones play week 2.

@wheelz1200. Who has the higher chance to take the Patriots to the playoffs? Cam Newton or Mac Jones?



New England Patriots QB Cam Newton returned to practice Thursday after sitting out the NFL's five-day entry cadence under COVID-19 protocols, giving him three days to prepare for the club's preseason finale on Sunday against the New York Giants.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick has had little to say on Newton's situation, instead standing on a statement the club released that explained the quarterback's absence as a "misunderstanding" of the league's protocols regarding COVID-19 testing done away from team facilities. Only unvaccinated players are subject to the five-day re-entry policy.
"He didn't go against team rules," Belichick said of Newton, per NFL Network's Mike Giardi, adding, "All the QBs will get work today."

Belichick has been mum about who will start between Newton and rookie Mac Jones, who has been impressive in training camp, and reiterated Thursday he doesn't have a timetable for naming a Week 1 starter. He did acknowledge Tuesday, however, that Jones had a big opportunity in Newton's absence. He apparently took advantage of it in joint practices with the Giants, while Newton's contact with the Patriots for five days was relegated to virtual participation in meetings.


Source https://www.nfl.com/news/cam-newton-back-at-patriots-practice-after-five-day-absence-mac-jones
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Since it's already draft snz, i have a quick hypothetical question. How would you treat unvaccinated players (that you know of) in this year's drafts? Are you willing to pass on a player just because he is not vaccinated and hence poses a higher risk of contracting rona and thus missing time/messing up with your team?



All things being equal I'd definitely grab the vaxxed player but I don't think not being vaxxed is enough of a detriment to move them down on my list. But if I already don't really like them then thats just added risk and I'd grab an alternative thats rated lower in lieu.


ngl he was also on my radar, i wonder if Henderson's thumb injury (they say it's nothing serious) has anything to do with the trade or the Rams just adding depth to their RB position?

It looks like depth to me but now we might have a fight for starting position or a timeshare.
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I think Darrell Henderson just got screwed with Sony Michel Trade.  I was planning on grabbing both, thought Michel wouldn't get traded until 6th week but this threw a wrench in a few of my value players I was gonna try to snipe.

ngl he was also on my radar, i wonder if Henderson's thumb injury (they say it's nothing serious) has anything to do with the trade or the Rams just adding depth to their RB position?

Since it's already draft snz, i have a quick hypothetical question. How would you treat unvaccinated players (that you know of) in this year's drafts? Are you willing to pass on a player just because he is not vaccinated and hence poses a higher risk of contracting rona and thus missing time/messing up with your team?

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I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol.  

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy

Agreed, they might also not reach the playoffs with Mac Jones. However, the trade deadline is on November. If the 49ers should resolve that they make Trey Lance their permanent no.1 quarterback before the deadline, is there a chance that Bill Belichick might try to get Jimmy Garoppolo?

No way not after taking Mac with the 1 this year and cam sitting there.  Jimmy isn't a huge upgrade.  Now if Aaron Rodgers becomes available that's a whole different story.  

However, if Bill Belichick had the choice of only Cam Newton, Mac Jones or get Jimmy Garoppolo, who among these quarterbacks could be the most possible to bring the Patriots to the playoffs? Certainly this would be the return of Jimmy Garoppolo, I reckon.

They aren't going to trade anything for a 1 year Jimmy rental though, San Fran will want to much.  And any multi-year deal kind of kills the whole point of drafting Mac 1st by burying him as the 3rd qb.  There's teams that will want Jimmy, Denver might be a good landing spot.  Or Carolina if Sam Darnold starts out terrible.
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I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol.  

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy

Agreed, they might also not reach the playoffs with Mac Jones. However, the trade deadline is on November. If the 49ers should resolve that they make Trey Lance their permanent no.1 quarterback before the deadline, is there a chance that Bill Belichick might try to get Jimmy Garoppolo?

No way not after taking Mac with the 1 this year and cam sitting there.  Jimmy isn't a huge upgrade.  Now if Aaron Rodgers becomes available that's a whole different story.  

And @chi cowboys always suck this year won't be any different.  Redskins have a tough schedule ahead of them but their d is tight.  Giants still gonna win it.  And Jan 2nd is a lock for the giants.  Will be the ff superbowl week too.  Might just need to take Danny dimes with my first pick in the draft! Lol

Lol you are off your rocker Sir Wheelz.  There is not a chance in hell that the Giants will finish in first place in that division.  The Cowboys have Dak back, and Dak is far better than anything ya'll got over in New York.  The cowboys have some solid wide receivers, running backs etc.  Defense may be a bit suspect, but still.  I also thing the WFT will be very solid..as you said their D is legit but so should be their offense. Fitzmagic is solid, their running back Gibson is a stud, some good WRs etc.  I am willing to make a side bet with you if you'd like sir?? Smiley

Don't threaten me with a good time.  Throw me some odds and I'm down.  If you want to be the house I will give you a bit of an edge against the current odds.  Straight up it makes no sense on my part will just pile on at current odds with the book.  Now if you want to bet straight up on the January 2nd game, I'm down.  Let's bet on the toilet bowl!

And Dallas always has a great offense yet they don't do squat year in and year out.  Dak is over rated.  He had probably the best o line in the league one year.  Look at what zeke did second half of last year with a crap line.  Nadda.  We both know rbs and qbs can be drastically change with line play.
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Interesting thoughts lately, been reading but no time to sit down and comment.

I think Darrell Henderson just got screwed with Sony Michel Trade.  I was planning on grabbing both, thought Michel wouldn't get traded until 6th week but this threw a wrench in a few of my value players I was gonna try to snipe.

Well back to research when I get the time! Smiley

TLDW (too long didn't write):
No Giants won't win division and no Pats will never get Garrapoloo again! Cheesy
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I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol.  

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy

Agreed, they might also not reach the playoffs with Mac Jones. However, the trade deadline is on November. If the 49ers should resolve that they make Trey Lance their permanent no.1 quarterback before the deadline, is there a chance that Bill Belichick might try to get Jimmy Garoppolo?

No way not after taking Mac with the 1 this year and cam sitting there.  Jimmy isn't a huge upgrade.  Now if Aaron Rodgers becomes available that's a whole different story.  

And @chi cowboys always suck this year won't be any different.  Redskins have a tough schedule ahead of them but their d is tight.  Giants still gonna win it.  And Jan 2nd is a lock for the giants.  Will be the ff superbowl week too.  Might just need to take Danny dimes with my first pick in the draft! Lol

Lol you are off your rocker Sir Wheelz.  There is not a chance in hell that the Giants will finish in first place in that division.  The Cowboys have Dak back, and Dak is far better than anything ya'll got over in New York.  The cowboys have some solid wide receivers, running backs etc.  Defense may be a bit suspect, but still.  I also thing the WFT will be very solid..as you said their D is legit but so should be their offense. Fitzmagic is solid, their running back Gibson is a stud, some good WRs etc.  I am willing to make a side bet with you if you'd like sir?? Smiley
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I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol.  

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy

Agreed, they might also not reach the playoffs with Mac Jones. However, the trade deadline is on November. If the 49ers should resolve that they make Trey Lance their permanent no.1 quarterback before the deadline, is there a chance that Bill Belichick might try to get Jimmy Garoppolo?

No way not after taking Mac with the 1 this year and cam sitting there.  Jimmy isn't a huge upgrade.  Now if Aaron Rodgers becomes available that's a whole different story.  

However, if Bill Belichick had the choice of only Cam Newton, Mac Jones or get Jimmy Garoppolo, who among these quarterbacks could be the most possible to bring the Patriots to the playoffs? Certainly this would be the return of Jimmy Garoppolo, I reckon.
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Yeah I am not sure I see the Patriots making the playoffs this year ( just as I didn't last year and even made a few bucks off of my buddy who thought Hoodie would lead them to the playoffs without Brady).  I personally just don't think Belichick is as good of a coach as Tom Brady has made him look for the past two decades. He struggles to draft good offense and does stupid stuff like giving the Falcons a second rounder for mohamed sanu the other year.  I'm not saying he's not great, because he is, I just don't think he's as great as people give him credit for.
The chances the Patriots makes the playoffs are low, the AFC East is the Bills division for the foreseeable future, the Jets will be better with Wilson, they will not make the playoffs this year but now they have the potential to be on the race if they can draft correctly during the next years, I know that is a big if since we are talking about the Jets but it is a possibility, and the Dolphins will depend on how year 2 Tua looks like, if anything I am glad they picked Tua and not Herbert as I would despise the idea of facing that dude twice for at least a decade.
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I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol.  

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy

Agreed, they might also not reach the playoffs with Mac Jones. However, the trade deadline is on November. If the 49ers should resolve that they make Trey Lance their permanent no.1 quarterback before the deadline, is there a chance that Bill Belichick might try to get Jimmy Garoppolo?

No way not after taking Mac with the 1 this year and cam sitting there.  Jimmy isn't a huge upgrade.  Now if Aaron Rodgers becomes available that's a whole different story.  

And @chi cowboys always suck this year won't be any different.  Redskins have a tough schedule ahead of them but their d is tight.  Giants still gonna win it.  And Jan 2nd is a lock for the giants.  Will be the ff superbowl week too.  Might just need to take Danny dimes with my first pick in the draft! Lol
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I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol. 

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy

Agreed, they might also not reach the playoffs with Mac Jones. However, the trade deadline is on November. If the 49ers should resolve that they make Trey Lance their permanent no.1 quarterback before the deadline, is there a chance that Bill Belichick might try to get Jimmy Garoppolo?

Yeah I am not sure I see the Patriots making the playoffs this year ( just as I didn't last year and even made a few bucks off of my buddy who thought Hoodie would lead them to the playoffs without Brady).  I personally just don't think Belichick is as good of a coach as Tom Brady has made him look for the past two decades. He struggles to draft good offense and does stupid stuff like giving the Falcons a second rounder for mohamed sanu the other year.  I'm not saying he's not great, because he is, I just don't think he's as great as people give him credit for.
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I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol. 

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy

Agreed, they might also not reach the playoffs with Mac Jones. However, the trade deadline is on November. If the 49ers should resolve that they make Trey Lance their permanent no.1 quarterback before the deadline, is there a chance that Bill Belichick might try to get Jimmy Garoppolo?
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Trubisky lighting it up against his former team and Justin Fields nearly getting murdered in the fourth quarter, not a good day for Bears fan. Fields seems to be okay though, but that hit in the head was terrible. 👀

Give me more meaningless preseason games, please!  Grin  

Trying to extend my winning streak with Ravens ml + Steelers ml, Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin are guys that care about wins regardless if its preseason or regular season. If BAL wins tonight, it will be their 19th straight, matching Vince Lombardi's Green Bay Packers team from the 1960s, who also had 19.

Try being a Bears fan.  That being said this was preseason and preseason doesn't mean much at all.  One of the biggest mistakes I used to make in Fantasy Football was taking preseason too seriously and judging some players by how well they played, or didn't play during preseason.  That has almost always come back to bite me in the butt.  During yesterdays game my Bears sure did look like shit, but they were also missing a bunch of starting players.  Let me make this very clear, Mitchell Trubisky is TERRIBLE.  The Bears however are going to miss cornerback Kyle Fuller big time, and releasing him was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen.  I HATE the Bears ownership, and this is just yet another reason why.  I dream that they will sell the team some day to someone whom actually has half a clue what they are doing.

Being a Giants fan I'm rooting for them to lose every game this year sorry chi!  Yeah that hit on fields was a tough one to watch.  Thought the kid was gonna die out there.  And agreed, mitch is terrible.  He is a good backup quarterback.  He will be a professional clipboard holder for 10 years probably.  Not a bad gig if you think about it lol.

I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol.  

Yeah Trubisky sucks.  His problem is his intelligence.  He has all the skills to be a very good QB, but the problem is he is dumber than a box of rocks. And heck no..back-up qb's have the second best job in the world outside of Kickers..no CTE for kickers

I threw a nice chunk on them winning the NFL Least division.  I will bet they hit 9 wins this year.  Their secondary is sick.  Line is a year older and they upped their revving corps.  Danny year 3 which is a make or break year.  I know I'm a Homer chi but 9 wins and the division it is.  And will STILL pick #1 in next year's draft  Grin

9 Wins  Cheesy  The only way that the Giants win 9 games this year is if hell freezes over, and despite climate change messing up our earth pretty badly, I just do not see it.  However you're right the NFC Least is not the best division.  That said, I think the Cowboys and the Washington Football team will both be sizably better than the Giants, well, at least the Cowboys.  I do like the WFT as a bit of a dark horse this year.
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Trubisky lighting it up against his former team and Justin Fields nearly getting murdered in the fourth quarter, not a good day for Bears fan. Fields seems to be okay though, but that hit in the head was terrible. 👀

Give me more meaningless preseason games, please!  Grin  

Trying to extend my winning streak with Ravens ml + Steelers ml, Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin are guys that care about wins regardless if its preseason or regular season. If BAL wins tonight, it will be their 19th straight, matching Vince Lombardi's Green Bay Packers team from the 1960s, who also had 19.

Try being a Bears fan.  That being said this was preseason and preseason doesn't mean much at all.  One of the biggest mistakes I used to make in Fantasy Football was taking preseason too seriously and judging some players by how well they played, or didn't play during preseason.  That has almost always come back to bite me in the butt.  During yesterdays game my Bears sure did look like shit, but they were also missing a bunch of starting players.  Let me make this very clear, Mitchell Trubisky is TERRIBLE.  The Bears however are going to miss cornerback Kyle Fuller big time, and releasing him was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen.  I HATE the Bears ownership, and this is just yet another reason why.  I dream that they will sell the team some day to someone whom actually has half a clue what they are doing.

Being a Giants fan I'm rooting for them to lose every game this year sorry chi!  Yeah that hit on fields was a tough one to watch.  Thought the kid was gonna die out there.  And agreed, mitch is terrible.  He is a good backup quarterback.  He will be a professional clipboard holder for 10 years probably.  Not a bad gig if you think about it lol.

I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol.  

Yeah Trubisky sucks.  His problem is his intelligence.  He has all the skills to be a very good QB, but the problem is he is dumber than a box of rocks. And heck no..back-up qb's have the second best job in the world outside of Kickers..no CTE for kickers

I threw a nice chunk on them winning the NFL Least division.  I will bet they hit 9 wins this year.  Their secondary is sick.  Line is a year older and they upped their revving corps.  Danny year 3 which is a make or break year.  I know I'm a Homer chi but 9 wins and the division it is.  And will STILL pick #1 in next year's draft  Grin
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I think the best outlet for Fantasy news is Fantasy Pros ( https://www.fantasypros.com/ ).  They've got a great website with tons of good information, they've got a pretty good podcast that I will listen to from time to time and they've also got a Discord group that I will hop in and out of from time to time.  For me personally they are the best resource overall.  Sites like Rotoworld used to be my favorite but they've since fallen off a bit.

I've always like their tools and especially the player comparison and Expert Consensus but I've found their recommendation youtube vids to be on the poor side and not very insightful at all and I'd actually go on to say if you did what they recommend you will have zero chance of winning a competitive league.

I used to love yahoo answers for Fantasy opinions as they were damn spot on and I used to spend alot of time on there giving free advice and lineup recommendations but of course it didn't generate cashflow for Verizon so it got the axe.

Thanks for the reply. Smiley


I think the Bears will suck this year tbh.  We will certainly be a bit better than the Giants however that is for sure..not that that is saying very much lol.  Outside of Saquon Barkley the Giants are going to be very, very, very BAD lol. 

If Cam stays in we will be fighting for the bottom right there with you! Cheesy
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