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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 01, 2021, 11:49:55 PM

I want to ask this out of curiosity on what you NFL experts think or speculate. Which team would pick up Cam Newton?

My first guess was the Redskins with Ron Rivera because of his success with Newton, however, this rumor was disproved immediately by Rivera. The team to pick Covid Cam might be the Texans?

Jaguars will pick him up in 2027 as a tight end.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 02, 2021, 09:26:48 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 01, 2021, 11:49:55 PM

I want to ask this out of curiosity on what you NFL experts think or speculate. Which team would pick up Cam Newton?

My first guess was the Redskins with Ron Rivera because of his success with Newton, however, this rumor was disproved immediately by Rivera. The team to pick Covid Cam might be the Texans?

Honestly I don't know many teams that would pick up cam right now. He thinks he is a starter so it will be toxic wherever he goes everytime the starting qb throws a pick. What I see happening is when a starting qb goes out with a long term injury mid year the team picking up cam to battle with the backup. That's the only case I can see Cam getting another shot

Yeah I agree though I do think someone will pick him up. Maybe it'll take a little bit of time for someone to sign him, perhaps not until a QB gets hurt and he's desperately needed. He certainly will not be going to the WFT. He's not as good as Fitzpatrick at this point in their careers, not to mention Fitzmagic, a Harvard man, is much more of a leader/less noise and nonsense that comes w/Cam.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 01, 2021, 11:49:55 PM

I want to ask this out of curiosity on what you NFL experts think or speculate. Which team would pick up Cam Newton?

My first guess was the Redskins with Ron Rivera because of his success with Newton, however, this rumor was disproved immediately by Rivera. The team to pick Covid Cam might be the Texans?

Honestly I don't know many teams that would pick up cam right now. He thinks he is a starter so it will be toxic wherever he goes everytime the starting qb throws a pick. What I see happening is when a starting qb goes out with a long term injury mid year the team picking up cam to battle with the backup. That's the only case I can see Cam getting another shot

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 01, 2021, 06:34:22 PM

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on August 29, 2021, 06:46:51 PM

Almost every 49er's coach in history has loved to rotate running backs and full backs situationally. As a result it makes even our best running back a relatively poor choice for FF, in my opinion. Mostert is likely to get the lion's share of snaps, but I predict we'll see a lot of Trey Sermon also.

Yeah I had him and Coleman a few years ago and trying to figure out which one of them (I think there was Breida too) was gonna get the share week to week was impossible! I ended up only playing one if the other 2 were hurt and that worked out well. Same with NE, I will never draft NE RBs.

I am having a really hard time trying to decide how to draft the Niners running back situation. I think Mostert will certainly get the lead duties to start, but lets not forget he's had like 1 good season and bounced from team to team for years. There's a reason the Niners draft Trey Sermon. I am not sure I want anything to do with that backfield but if I do have to draft someone it'll probably be Sermon.

My thought process is, if you can't decide on how they are going to play them leave it alone. That's just me chi, I've whiffed everytime I try nailing down the committee lead. But if I had to guess mostert is your guy.

I hear you, and that is normally exactly what I do. However I had my first draft last night and what did I do.. I drafted Trey Sermon lol. I honestly have very little idea about him and since I don't watch a lot of college football much I get put at a disadvantage when it comes to incoming rookies. I kind of like the pick being that Mostert cant seem to stay healthy. We shall see I suppose!

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I want to ask this out of curiosity on what you NFL experts think or speculate. Which team would pick up Cam Newton?

My first guess was the Redskins with Ron Rivera because of his success with Newton, however, this rumor was disproved immediately by Rivera. The team to pick Covid Cam might be the Texans?

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on September 01, 2021, 09:08:58 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on August 29, 2021, 07:26:28 PM

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on August 29, 2021, 06:46:51 PM

Almost every 49er's coach in history has loved to rotate running backs and full backs situationally. As a result it makes even our best running back a relatively poor choice for FF, in my opinion. Mostert is likely to get the lion's share of snaps, but I predict we'll see a lot of Trey Sermon also.

Yeah I had him and Coleman a few years ago and trying to figure out which one of them (I think there was Breida too) was gonna get the share week to week was impossible! I ended up only playing one if the other 2 were hurt and that worked out well. Same with NE, I will never draft NE RBs.

I am having a really hard time trying to decide how to draft the Niners running back situation. I think Mostert will certainly get the lead duties to start, but lets not forget he's had like 1 good season and bounced from team to team for years. There's a reason the Niners draft Trey Sermon. I am not sure I want anything to do with that backfield but if I do have to draft someone it'll probably be Sermon.

My thought process is, if you can't decide on how they are going to play them leave it alone. That's just me chi, I've whiffed everytime I try nailing down the committee lead. But if I had to guess mostert is your guy.

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Quote from: nutildah on August 31, 2021, 06:25:59 PM

So I was finally doing a bit of draft research and see that ESPN recommends this as the #1 pick:

Draft rank 1.4 and Position Rank 51?

I realize he was out for a lot of last season but what guarantees do people have this guy's gonna be as good as he once was? I'm probably missing something here. Just saying you if you guys want him, probably won't have to talk me out of him.

I have not researched McCaffrey deeply as my assumption is he will be out of the draftboard by the time I am on the clock, however he has been stellar the previous seasons and many assume this is going to keep being the case, I do not remember the injury he suffered as at the time I just thought the Panthers will suck without him and then I thought they will still suck even with him so it was not a big deal to me at the time as I was not into FF.

This is why FF is as much art as it is science as the majority of the top picks have some negatives as well which could reduce their expected performance, Henry is unlikely to maintain his performance, because if he did it will mean that he will break the single season rushing record due to the additional game, Barkley comes from an injury as well, Elliott will depend on Dak remaining healthy or he will face a full box all year and Kamara does not have Brees anymore, but I understand your worries because if you happen to miss on the first pick then you do not get a pick until the end of the second round, and by that time a lot of elite players are gone.

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Quote from: Hueristic on August 29, 2021, 07:26:28 PM

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on August 29, 2021, 06:46:51 PM

Almost every 49er's coach in history has loved to rotate running backs and full backs situationally. As a result it makes even our best running back a relatively poor choice for FF, in my opinion. Mostert is likely to get the lion's share of snaps, but I predict we'll see a lot of Trey Sermon also.

Yeah I had him and Coleman a few years ago and trying to figure out which one of them (I think there was Breida too) was gonna get the share week to week was impossible! I ended up only playing one if the other 2 were hurt and that worked out well. Same with NE, I will never draft NE RBs.

I am having a really hard time trying to decide how to draft the Niners running back situation. I think Mostert will certainly get the lead duties to start, but lets not forget he's had like 1 good season and bounced from team to team for years. There's a reason the Niners draft Trey Sermon. I am not sure I want anything to do with that backfield but if I do have to draft someone it'll probably be Sermon.

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Quote from: nutildah on August 31, 2021, 06:25:59 PM

So I was finally doing a bit of draft research and see that ESPN recommends this as the #1 pick:

Draft rank 1.4 and Position Rank 51?

I realize he was out for a lot of last season but what guarantees do people have this guy's gonna be as good as he once was? I'm probably missing something here. Just saying you if you guys want him, probably won't have to talk me out of him.

McCaffrey is easily the number one pick and I pray that I could get that pick in any of my drafts. It is sure as shit not going to happen because I am cursed, but I can always dream lol. There are never any guarantees for any player, Christian is as good of a duel threat both rushing and catching as it gets in the NFL. He has proven that he deserves to be the number one. The only other player I would consider at #1 in Henry. I like Cook and Kamara too but there are issues with choosing them as #1 IMO.

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I was not very shocked with the update that Covid Cam was replaced by Mac Jones. All the articles I was reading about him said that he was never going to take the Patriots to the playoffs and would be cut by week 4. I reckon next cut will be Andy Dalton or whoever the Bears starting quarterback will be.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on August 31, 2021, 07:13:36 PM

For example, Saquon Barkley's rank is 119, again based on last year's performance. You will be nuts to trade him, or not draft him at 1! Grin

Clearly, if you didn't want Saquon Barkley, you wouldn't have said that -- you would put the poisoned cup in front of you!

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Quote from: nutildah on August 31, 2021, 06:25:59 PM

So I was finally doing a bit of draft research and see that ESPN recommends this as the #1 pick:

Draft rank 1.4 and Position Rank 51?

I realize he was out for a lot of last season but what guarantees do people have this guy's gonna be as good as he once was? I'm probably missing something here. Just saying you if you guys want him, probably won't have to talk me out of him.

Whoever is telling to pick him with your coveted number one pick is playing you!

Don't fall for it! Cheesy

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Quote from: nutildah on August 31, 2021, 06:25:59 PM

So I was finally doing a bit of draft research and see that ESPN recommends this as the #1 pick:
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That position rank 51 you see on his card is solely based on last year's stats, McCaffrey played in 3 games, hence the low rank.

For example, Saquon Barkley's rank is 119, again based on last year's performance. You will be nuts to trade him, or not draft him at 1! Grin

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So I was finally doing a bit of draft research and see that ESPN recommends this as the #1 pick:

Draft rank 1.4 and Position Rank 51?

I realize he was out for a lot of last season but what guarantees do people have this guy's gonna be as good as he once was? I'm probably missing something here. Just saying you if you guys want him, probably won't have to talk me out of him.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on August 31, 2021, 09:40:36 AM

Did they say why he is released?

Afaik, Cam hasn't revealed whether he's vaccinated or not, if you get a positive test for covid, you're going to miss at least 10 days, and close contact was five days or something like that. Belichick is obviously not playing around...if the reason is, of course, that he could miss time during the regular season.

I think this is the main reason why he was let go, regardless of what we think about getting the vaccine or not it is obvious that for the teams having the majority of the players get the vaccine is going to provide a competitive advantage, if Cam was the undisputed starter maybe he could have gotten away with not getting the vaccine but Belichick is not going to accept this for a backup and he decided to cut him.

Quote from: morvillz7z on August 31, 2021, 09:40:36 AM

Wouldn't it be better if they tried to trade him and get something in return, instead of just letting him go for nothing?

I think Cam had a contract for only one year so trading him was not an option as no one will trade for a backup QB.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 31, 2021, 11:31:43 AM

Have you guys had your draft yet? I have my drafts coming up this week on Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday. Just curious if you guys have had it, how it went and kinda curious to see what you guy's teams look like. Also I'd like to ask what guys you all like sleeper wise, dudes who are over-ranked and those who have a lot of value as to where they are being drafted. Obviously may not be a good idea to discuss this until your draft is over Cheesy

Not yet we are going this Friday. And as far as having cam cut nothing worse than having a rookie starting qb and having someone like a disgruntled ex star to fiddle with the locker room. I don't mind the cut. They weren't going to get anything for cam anyway, they know the Pats were on the ledge with him. Cam might have seen his day, playing for bottom teams or backing up a starter on a contending team. Not much room in the NFL for error.

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Have you guys had your draft yet? I have my drafts coming up this week on Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday. Just curious if you guys have had it, how it went and kinda curious to see what you guy's teams look like. Also I'd like to ask what guys you all like sleeper wise, dudes who are over-ranked and those who have a lot of value as to where they are being drafted. Obviously may not be a good idea to discuss this until your draft is over Cheesy

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 31, 2021, 10:00:56 AM

Wow I have to say I am a bit shocked by the news of the Patriots releasing Cam. I did not expect that to happen. I figured they'd at least give Cam the nod to start and if he struggled they could easily just put in the rookie. I personally think this is kind of crazy that they didn't at least keep him for a bit to let the rookie learn/grow or use him as a back up in case they needed to bring him in for whatever reason. Personally I just don't think this was a smart move.

Holy macaroni, that's a surprising move for Belichick. It was pretty obvious that Jones played better during the preseason, but that doesn't always translate to the regular season. I've never been a fan of Cam Newton, but I tend to agree that this was a bad move. I think Mac Jones has the potential to thrive in the Patriots system, he's built for that type of offense, but I also think he would have benefited from a slower approach.

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Wow I have to say I am a bit shocked by the news of the Patriots releasing Cam. I did not expect that to happen. I figured they'd at least give Cam the nod to start and if he struggled they could easily just put in the rookie. I personally think this is kind of crazy that they didn't at least keep him for a bit to let the rookie learn/grow or use him as a back up in case they needed to bring him in for whatever reason. Personally I just don't think this was a smart move.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 31, 2021, 09:27:26 AM

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32119363/sources-new-england-patriots-cut-cam-newton-mac-jones-start

Cam gets cut. Bill going all in on Mac Jones. He is the type of qb that Bill likes, cam didn't really fit the scheme but still aittle surprised. No way they trade for a qb now they are all in one. If they gave up draft capital for a backup after dropping cam that would be the dumbest thing they could do. Should be an interesting year with a bunch of the rookie qbs probably going to start. Could get 4 starting rookie qbs this year.

Covid Cam Cut has a ring to it.

Patriots super spreader event has hit the bricks.

I think he would have made it to game 4 if he had gotten vaxed.

The thing I don't see being mentioned is Hoyer is more than capable and has looked good not to mention he was in the patriot system previously.

Quote from: morvillz7z on August 31, 2021, 09:40:36 AM

Wouldn't it be better if they tried to trade him and get something in return, instead of just letting him go for nothing?

He's toxic no-one wants him.

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