Topic: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 - page 42. (Read 49710 times)

I could argue that someone not "playing the waivers" is using less of it up, so they are more deserving of getting that next spot in the order.  Why should someone be rewarded for playing poorly? They could be picking up and dropping players like crazy AND get preferential treatment on the waiver wire...I'm not a fan of this personally. 

That Hall of Fame game sure was boring, can't wait for the real season to kick off!

1) Spot lockup deadline

3 weeks is good!

If we go with Sunday (September 3rd), then the deadline should be August 13th. 3 weeks is decent since we need to determine the draft order and give everyone time to mock draft.

2) date of draft day

Sunday, September 3rd

3) Any Veto's on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?

No. Allow both to join the league.

4) Keep me as Commish?

Yes.

5) Keep DW as treasurer?

Yes.

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?

League rules don't need much changing, my only issue is with the waiver order. I believe that the default setting "reverse standing" is a better option since "continual rolling" can be in a way exploited, with higher seeds receiving top priority as long as they play the waiver passively. Reverse standing will also improve league competitiveness by providing a much-needed boost to teams with bad records mid-through the season.

Welcome back suchmoon!


Me as well... I'm a fan of consistency.

So today was the pre-preseason game, Jets vs. Browns. I only watched the recap but I noticed that Greg Zuerlein put the first six points on the board... See? Kickers are important!

Not totally surprising that Rogers sat on the sidelines for the whole game. Will be interesting to see how he does this year. And I never thought I'd say this, but I missed Chris Collinsworth's voice.

Next games are on the 10th: Texans vs. Pats and Vikings vs. Seahawks

Fine.


Any day is fine, preferably evening hours UTC but doesn't really matter that much.


No. I mean yes. No veto. Yes to them joining.


Yes.


Yes.


Yes. I vote for no rule changes though

I am good with whatever everyone votes. I'm the new guy so I i'll make it easy for everyone. Regarding draft day, What time zone is the start time and when is the start time? I'm in the EST timezone and pay attention to UTC as well since I have the forum set on that timezone.

I'm in. Sorry haven't been much active recently, trying this newfangled thing called vacation like 12 hours at a time until work texts me at 4am so I'm kinda cranky but definitely looking forward to crushing you all in FF.

1) Spot lockup deadline: 2 or 3 weeks

2) date of draft day: Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, but Wednesday is too late.

3) Vote on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league? Yes

4) Keep Hueristic as Commish? Yes

5) Keep DireWolfM14 as treasurer? Abstain

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?: Yes

Voting tally: If I missed anyone let me know

1) Spot lockup deadline

3 weeks prior to draft day.

Yes:
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
hueristic
bbc.reporter Agreed, but 2 weeks before is also okay.

2) date of draft day
bbc.reporter Sat or Sunday
Hueristic Sat or Sunday
ChiBitCTy Sunday
nutildah sat or sun

3) Vote on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?
 Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

4) Keep Hueristic as Commish?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

5) Keep DireWolfM14 as treasurer?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter


Points to debate after we finish the above, once again if I missed one let me know:

South Park:
1) Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?
2) About the second league, I am in, now we just have to wait to see if there is enough interest on it.

DireWolfM14:
1. What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

morvillz7z:
1. replace kicker with a flex spot
2. switch from continual rolling waivers to reverse standings

yahoo62278:
What is the buy-in and who/where are we sending it? I see .0025 mentioned but I want to be sure.

nutildah
Payout structure
how many teams we have advancing to the playoffs


*Just noticed I havn't heard from Suchmoon but was pretty sure they had mentioned they would be in so I think I auto locked them up.
I pm'd and am waiting on a reply.

lol.  I'm in a league where they force us to have 2 kickers.  It's the dumbest league ever but I play in it because my best friend from HS asked me to co-manage it with him years ago, and it's a way for us to stay in touch and what not. Anyways I keep trying to get them to change the rules but they won't budge. I named my team "2 kickers 1 league" ..they weren't amused  (hopefully you get the joke there)



EDIT:  Everyone enjoy the Hall of Fame game tonight...first game of the season, even if it's preseason it's still NFL football!

1) Agreed, but 2 weeks before is also okay.

2) Okay with me. We do not want our commissioner lost in a casino without internet on draft day heheheheee.

3) No veto.

4) Yes.

5) Yes.

6) This thread is always open, no choice but to vote yes hehe.



In any case, sharing this old article about football being a combat sport. Some of you might like it.



As I said earlier, football is basically simulated war, but with a ball. The offensive line and defensive line is the main war front. The line is arguably the most important part of a football game, protecting the quarterback, giving the running back and full backs room to run, and more.

The quarterback is your general. He commands the players, making the most important plays with the ball. He delegates to the wide receivers, tight end, running backs, blocking assignments from all positions, play calling, audible, and all. Running backs, receivers, and tight ends are your skill players. For the most part, they’re responsible for scoring in a variety of ways.

Defense is the same boat. An defensive line is the front. The linebackers are the generals. Secondary protects the endzone. All have similar goals to the offense, just the opposite.

Read in full https://mymmanews.com/is-american-football-a-combat-sport-yes-it-is/

Get rid of the kicker? The kicker is a fantasy football institution since time immemorial. Getting rid of the kicker is like asking Catholics to give up rosary beads.




I'm in agreement with all this. A couple other things we'll also need to decide on is what the payout structure will be for the winner(s) and how many teams we have advancing to the playoffs. If hhampuz is out we'll need to find another player or cut one and go back down to 10... 11 teams is too weird. Personally I hope he stays in.

I'm good with pretty much everything laid out in those questions.  I think we should draft on a Sunday. I can make most Saturdays work, but Sundays I think are the best days for most people. 

I also think we should start with making any league changes before we get all 12 players locked up, no big deal not having that.  I say we start with getting rid of the kicker position.  I can't remember what else I though we should consider changing besides that, will have to review the leagues rules from last year. thx



I agree with you that sticking with Yahoo makes the most sense (though Sleeper is really growing on me and I believe is either the best or will be the best fantasy app before long).  I also agree with .0025BTC being a good amount as the buy in.
[/quote]I'm super curious to see how this Jets team does this season. Adding Aaron Rodgers, probably picking up Dalvin Cook, and a top 5 defense I can see them winning 10-11 games this season.

When are we planning on doing the draft?
[/quote]

The Jets should bet quite good and fun to watch.  Still not sure if they are adding Dalvin Cook.  If they don't, they obviously think that Breece Hall is good to go, which would be great news for them as he's better than Cook and of course much younger.

Cool now that you checked in I think we are ready to start voting.

Roll call.

suchmoon, IN

nutildah, IN

bbc.reporter, IN

South Park, IN

wheelz1200, IN

DireWolfM14, IN

morvillz7z, IN

Hampus, Undecided

ChiBitCTy, IN

Hueristic, IN

yahoo62278, Added

seek3r added


So first thing we need to decide is deadline for keeping a spot locked up.

1) Spot lockup deadline

I vote 3 weeks prior to draft day.

2) date of draft day

I vote Sat or Sun before kickoff thursday.
I tend to goto casino friday nights.

3) Any Veto's on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?

I'm guessing this is a non issue but I want it to be fair and impartial.
I vote allow both unequivocally.

4) Keep me as Commish?

I vote yes unless someone else wants it and then I may change my vote.

5) Keep DW as treasurer?

I vote yes as he has done a stellar job the last 2 years.

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?

I'm unsure but I would lean yes as we can still get a majority vote without having everyone locked in.


Thats all I can think off of the top of my head that we need to address before the league for 2023 can be cemented and we can start discussing rules.


Also anyone intested in a second league we can start a list now and choose a comish and format.

Thanks for reminding me, Hueristic.

I would love to participate in this year. Maybe I need some help at the beginning because its my first Fantasy League but that are my only concerns right now.
In one of our posts you already mentioned some points that would be interesting for me aswell: Buyin, Start, 2nd league?!?!

Lets goo!!!!

We had a tie last year, remember the guy that died on the field from the Bills that collided with Higgins?



LOL, I think we will probably all agree 2 or even 3 places will be good this year.




AFA a Deadline for locking up last years position I'm going to throw out 3 weeks before the season starts as it should give us 2 weeks to get another player if someone cannot commit and 1 week buffer for the draft.

Also if someone cannot commit we can still have them on the list if their circumstances change before we lock in a new player.

I agree with @DireWolfM14 on having 2 payouts. If I remember correctly, everything went to the winner last year. This season we have 2 more recruits. Their entry fees can go to my opponent as 2nd prize after the final.

thx for mentioning the email system worked fine, first time I tried it.



Lol, I'm trying to forget that year.


Works for me but I think Sunday the 3rd should be on the table as well.


Not normally but if you have something you want to do for them just ask.
AFA a separate thread IIRC last year we decided to stay in this thread but I can put it on the vote list if you want.

Ok so lets do a roll call here and see whats what.

suchmoon, IN

nutildah, IN

bbc.reporter, IN

South Park, IN

wheelz1200, IN

DireWolfM14, IN

morvillz7z, IN

Hampus, Undecided

ChiBitCTy, IN

Hueristic, IN

yahoo62278, Added

seek3r waiting on confirmation, pm'd

^^^-- If this list is incorrect let me know so I can update as we need this in stone before we vote for rules and settings.




Looks like first point of order is what deadline for locking up a slot.


Also we need to deciding draft date, IIRC we drafted the Sunday before week 1 last year?


Points to debate after we decide the final roster:

South Park:
1) Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?
2) About the second league, I am in, now we just have to wait to see if there is enough interest on it.

DireWolfM14:
1. What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

morvillz7z:
1. replace kicker with a flex spot
2. switch from continual rolling waivers to reverse standings

yahoo62278:
What is the buy-in and who/where are we sending it? I see .0025 mentioned but I want to be sure.



If I missed a point then let me know so I can add it, also if anyone wants to add a point then just quote the current points and add yours to the bottom and that way none will get lost as we progress and the last quoted one should be the most updated.

I'm super curious to see how this Jets team does this season. Adding Aaron Rodgers, probably picking up Dalvin Cook, and a top 5 defense I can see them winning 10-11 games this season.

When are we planning on doing the draft?

Two days away from the very first preseason game!  They call it the "Hall of Fame Game".  Thursday at 7pm Chicago time.  Jets versus the Browns which would be a REALLY good game if all the starters actually played.  Since the pre-season is now only 3 games instead of 4, they may actually play starters in this game.  We sha'll see.


I agree with you that sticking with Yahoo makes the most sense (though Sleeper is really growing on me and I believe is either the best or will be the best fantasy app before long).  I also agree with .0025BTC being a good amount as the buy in.