Topic: The bASIC Refund Tracking Thread - page 15. (Read 41031 times)

Pretty easy to lookup.  If someone claims to be "xyz LLC/INC" it might be a good idea to look it up.  If the company doesn't exist and the operator is willing to lie about something that trivial well it should be a warning.

Here is an example:
https://sccefile.scc.virginia.gov/S3901032

Smells like SCAM to me, johnthedong. But thanks.

I did it. No extortion attempts or violence here.

It appears my posts are being deleted. I'd like to know who done it and why??

Could it be Theymos covering for Cablepair? It wouldn't be novel nor unprecedented...

I'd venture to estimate that well over 80% of all "LLC" websites are not in fact so. Sadly, it is still easier and cheaper to publish your authored HTML than it is to file LLC paperwork with the State.

I have searched the NYS business registry and exhausted my list of Tom Van Ripper's business entities - none, and I mean NONE, are listed with the State of New York. Without an LLC, Tom's customers can come after his personal belongings.

Common Sense Computers / CNY Sensible PC were just some of the "legit" business entities Tom ran at one time or another in his local community.

I called the number listed at BTCFPGA (https://www.btcfpga.com/index.php?route=information/contact) and got a voicemail message from Common Sense Computers, also not listed at the NYS business registry or really anywhere on Google.

I'm considering contacting NY State dept of consumer affairs. (https://www.dos.ny.gov/consumerprotection/form/complaintform.asp).

I knew of the "Pirate@40" scam but had to familiarize myself with the Trendon Shavers story.

You make a good point.. but it's obvious nobody has done anything material, save research and phone calls.

EDIT: and apparently there is one major difference between Tom and Trendon: one tried to run a legitimate business (selling consumer product) whereas the other was a pure under-the-table scammer (BTC ponzi), the latter is stealthier under regulatory radar.

http://appext20.dos.ny.gov/corp_public/CORPSEARCH.ENTITY_SEARCH_ENTRY?p_entity_name=BTCFPGA&p_name_type=A&p_search_type=CONTAINS

yha i saw ll c on website i mean actual link to its legitamcy like state website that has it list as a bisness

I did no such thing, name caller!! I simply suggested that one could, if they truly wanted to get his attention. You must have missed where I intentionally said I was not affected and don't wish anyone harm.

The website has been changed and I don't have a screenshot of the old website.  They used to have "BTCFPGA LLC" posted at several locations before it was changed to "CAN-ELECTRIC". 

[1/28/2013 2:56:36 AM] dmcurser: no the first order tom said wouldnt go thur and two do on bitcoin asci which he also could never get to work thats was where you came in to gety on of the order proccesed
[1/28/2013 2:57:18 AM] David Carlson: ok - well since you were giving me two order IDs and asking for refunds, I'm just trying to understand...
[1/28/2013 2:57:58 AM] David Carlson: seemed like you wanted two refunds
[1/28/2013 2:58:20 AM] David Carlson: tell you what
[1/28/2013 2:58:57 AM] David Carlson: seems sketchy to me, but I'll put you on the list for a $1069 refund in BTC, or else you can have Tom send you an MMQ
[1/28/2013 2:59:37 AM] dmcurser: yes that is fine as i still need both id to be taken care of in the end which is why i listed both
[1/28/2013 3:00:07 AM] dmcurser: the contest that i won was for  mmq and a 100 btc bar
[1/28/2013 3:00:11 AM] dmcurser: he sent mmq
[1/28/2013 3:00:20 AM] dmcurser: never sent bar said he didnt have time
[1/28/2013 3:01:00 AM] dmcurser: i said of forgo that and adde me to list for asci which at the time i over paid by like 3 btc but what the hell i was getting an asci
[1/28/2013 3:01:11 AM] dmcurser: he couldnt get cridt to work on btcfpga
[1/28/2013 3:01:58 AM] dmcurser: said he would do on bitcoin asci then he stoped talking to me about it and then you steped in and got the order complete and thats where it stands with the orders
[1/28/2013 3:02:27 AM] David Carlson: ok - I didn't even know what a btc bar was

rest of the logs yes i will once again addmit i was angry and i wantred a mother fucking eye

I do have the old BTCFPGA/BitcoinASIC forum backed up minutes after it was locked down...

Personally, I think Dave helped more than he baited people along.. however, re-reading some of his posts on the old forum (now erased and still locked down).. I can see that he was really in the "dark".. but really how far in the "dark" could be up for debate..

From Dave / BTCFPGA Forum:


^ Tom's famous 2 week radio silence after some questionable render pics.

He's working...why? Something I can help you with?

Because then you become scamming piece of shit yourself by doing so.

i like eye for an eye why cant the btc community fuck over a scammer for a change.

Ah the old eye for an eye defence or two wrongs make a right take your pick..

the sac wheres creativex
and where is this llc plz post link to this.



and to mine i only did mine out of anger if you feel that deserve a scammer tag ill accept it for finaly being the one thats tired of being scamed and wanted to get over on the scammer so sorry.

Still no reply to my email to the real Can Electric.  If I don't get a reply within the next 24 hours, I will phone them.  There is literally no proof right now of them having bought anything from Tom.  The weird initial post announcing the "sale" implied that the new owner had not bought any debt and that Tom would still be responsible for refunds.

And y'all can dox Tom if you want but I'd like to remind you that you ordered your hardware from an LLC, not an individual, and that doxxing Trendon Shavers and his family didn't get anyone back a single Bitcoin.