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hero member
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it is working now and all good

but i am getting 29.39 ghash is there a way to get more out of it?

temp is 55

If your heatsink to chip contact is good then try this.  If the heatsink contact is bad then the chips will stay slow.

Get a fan blowing onto the mosfets,  The core temp should rise to 70c and the hash rate will rise. 

 32Gh without mosfet cooling to 35Gh with mosfet cooling is the minimum I would be looking for.


If the mosfets on the power control get too hot, it will throttle the board.


before having the fan on it was 55 now after adding the fan to blow on the mosfet the temp went up to 68 but my hash increased

i put a fan now it is hashing at 35gh does that mean my heatsink contact is bad?

 35Gh is ok, it means your power side was running too hot.

What is the temperature reported from your miner?  If it is around 70c then its reasonable.

A bit more cooling on the mosfets will probably raise the temp to 70c  and gain you another 1Gh, check on the error rate though. If the error rate goes up too much, then all you are doing is wasting power.

Are you using an evo 212 cooler?

Possibly the better cooler would be a GPU type, It will cool the chips and be wide enough to cool the power module as well.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
it is working now and all good

but i am getting 29.39 ghash is there a way to get more out of it?

temp is 55

If your heatsink to chip contact is good then try this.  If the heatsink contact is bad then the chips will stay slow.

Get a fan blowing onto the mosfets,  The core temp should rise to 70c and the hash rate will rise. 

 32Gh without mosfet cooling to 35Gh with mosfet cooling is the minimum I would be looking for.


If the mosfets on the power control get too hot, it will throttle the board.


before having the fan on it was 55 now after adding the fan to blow on the mosfet the temp went up to 68 but my hash increased

i put a fan now it is hashing at 35gh does that mean my heatsink contact is bad?

 35Gh is ok, it means your power side was running too hot.

What is the temperature reported from your miner?  If it is around 70c then its reasonable.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
it is working now and all good

but i am getting 29.39 ghash is there a way to get more out of it?

temp is 55

If your heatsink to chip contact is good then try this.  If the heatsink contact is bad then the chips will stay slow.

Get a fan blowing onto the mosfets,  The core temp should rise to 70c and the hash rate will rise. 

 32Gh without mosfet cooling to 35Gh with mosfet cooling is the minimum I would be looking for.


If the mosfets on the power control get too hot, it will throttle the board.


i put a fan now it is hashing at 35gh does that mean my heatsink contact is bad?

 35Gh is ok, it means your power side was running too hot.

What is the temperature reported from your miner?  If it is around 70c then its reasonable.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
it is working now and all good

but i am getting 29.39 ghash is there a way to get more out of it?

temp is 55

If your heatsink to chip contact is good then try this.  If the heatsink contact is bad then the chips will stay slow.

Get a fan blowing onto the mosfets,  The core temp should rise to 70c and the hash rate will rise. 

 32Gh without mosfet cooling to 35Gh with mosfet cooling is the minimum I would be looking for.


If the mosfets on the power control get too hot, it will throttle the board.


i put a fan now it is hashing at 35gh does that mean my heatsink contact is bad?
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
it is working now and all good

but i am getting 29.39 ghash is there a way to get more out of it?

temp is 55

If your heatsink to chip contact is good then try this.  If the heatsink contact is bad then the chips will stay slow.

Get a fan blowing onto the mosfets,  The core temp should rise to 70c and the hash rate will rise. 

 32Gh without mosfet cooling to 35Gh with mosfet cooling is the minimum I would be looking for.


If the mosfets on the power control get too hot, it will throttle the board.
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Activity: 168
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Can the prices for end users be lowered enough to make it more enticing?  I know there are some required costs like manufacturing, etc...
Depends on volume, but probably not. A lot of it will depend on what kind of price you can get for the ASICs themselves, as at list price they're more than everything else combined. For our part of it, an order of 100 boards is enough that it takes you out of the very expense realm you pay for runs of 10-20 or so for prototypes and the ludicrously expensive cost of doing a few, but it's not nearly enough to get down to even the costs we saw in our first batch (which was 3x larger than our second batch).
How do we convey our interest in a round 3?
legendary
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Merit: 1004
Mine work ok with cgminer 3.8.2
Hash 33gh
And 37gh each of my boards
sr. member
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Where's the best place to get inexpensive stick on heat sinks for the components other than the ASIC chips?
legendary
Activity: 1148
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it is working now and all good

but i am getting 29.39 ghash is there a way to get more out of it?

temp is 55
full member
Activity: 198
Merit: 100
just received my chilli i connected it to my raspberrypi and i am gettting failed to send queue message and retry in 1 second

it is detected and temp is 30 degrees

any ideas?

Thanks
If you are using cgminer, you need version 3.6.0 or higher.  I'm having good luck with 3.7.2 and I did have some problem with 3.8.1. 
legendary
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evo 212
legendary
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i got it working on bfgminer on windows but it is only getting 22gh
Yeah, then it's likely poor contact with the heatsink. What are you using?
legendary
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i got it working on bfgminer on windows but it is only getting 22gh
legendary
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what do i need to get it going on windows till i figure it out on raspi?
Plug in the USB cable, then plug in the PCIe power.
Windows will find the Bitforce SHA256 SC device, then install the drivers for it (a serial convertor and serial comm port, I believe). Once it does that, follow the instructions from the cgminer readme.
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On windows, the direct USB support requires the installation of a WinUSB
driver (NOT the ftdi_sio driver), and attach it to the chosen USB device.
When configuring your device, plug it in and wait for windows to attempt to
install a driver on its own. It may think it has succeeded or failed but wait
for it to finish regardless. This is NOT the driver you want installed. At this
point you need to associate your device with the WinUSB driver. The easiest
way to do this is to use the zadig utility which you must right click on and
run as administrator. Then once you plug in your device you can choose the
"list all devices" from the "option" menu and you should be able to see the
device as something like: "BitFORCE SHA256 SC". Choose the install or replace
driver option and select WinUSB. You can either google for zadig or download
it from the cgminer directory in the DOWNLOADS link above.

When you first switch a device over to WinUSB with zadig and it shows that
correctly on the left of the zadig window, but it still gives permission
errors, you may need to unplug the USB miner and then plug it back in. Some
users may need to reboot at this point.
At that point you should just be able to start cgminer and go.
sr. member
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Team Heritage Motorsports
Failed to send queue is related to poor contact (overheating). Redo your heatsink
legendary
Activity: 1148
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what do i need to get it going on windows till i figure it out on raspi?

legendary
Activity: 1274
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just received my chilli i connected it to my raspberrypi and i am gettting failed to send queue message and retry in 1 second

it is detected and temp is 30 degrees

any ideas?

Thanks
I'll let ChipGeek answer this one. I have a Pi in a drawer somewhere, but I've never taken it out. My understanding is that they should just fire up (we used them in our test setup), but I'm not sure on that one.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
just received my chilli i connected it to my raspberrypi and i am gettting failed to send queue message and retry in 1 second

it is detected and temp is 30 degrees

any ideas?

Thanks
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legendary
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Hello Mr. Teal,

you told in the past there was a problem with the board by mounting the asics.
What was the problem exactly? I understood the most of the tin-soldering-balls of the asic has to been flooded the holes completly or over the strip-lines?
I've only the photo in my mind which you post here. It looks a little bit there or the mask was not printed to the asic chip area to stop flooding the tin-solder over the whole strip line. In this case there is only a little bit missing of tin-solder.

I want to prevent me from this problem so maybe compensate the situation by a little bit soldering paste filled to the holes ?

Another question, as I understood in this discussions was not only the cooling of the chips is essential, also the cooling of the power chips is very essential. So it looks to me it must not be a big EVE 212 cooler needed only. Maybe a smaller is good, too but I should check that the power chips get there own heatsinks.
I plan to glue a heatsing on top and a big heatsink plate on the back for the power chip area.

I've now ordered two of the most more cheap Scythe Setsugen Rev. 2 Grafikkartenkühler VGA
https://www.google.de/images?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Scythe+Setsugen+Rev.+2+Grafikkartenk%C3%BChler+VGA&gbv=1&sei=fjSHUuX_EMLItQam-oHACg&hl=de&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ei=gDSHUr5_jcGzBsGUgOgK&ved=0CDIQsAQ
which could be buy in germany from < 22 € and plan to mount them in a way the air flow will be go through the top heatsinks of the power chips.
The heatsink itself is know to handle ~ 200 W which should be enough to cool the asics.
On the back I want to mount a heatsink as bfl did this with the little singles.

I hope it will work ;-)

But in fact, can anybod give me the mechanical dimension from the board and the holes so I can prepare/check my 19 Inch server rack case for mounting some of them? I would like to bring the case in a air conditioned server room which is only possible if I mount them in a server case as I allready did this with my knc miners ;-)
I want to calculate how much asics I can mount in one case. I think 5 should been possible but I need
clarify that.

Cheers...

Well, the pads for the ASICs are that they are what are called solder mask defined pads. The pads are holes in the solder mask, and when they go through the lead-free solder bath that creates the tinned pads. When they did this process the first time, the board house had a couple issues with the flux not getting into the holes in the mask, so the pads didn't tin properly. The staff there fixed it by manually tinning them, but that left the issues with unlevelness.
We sent that back and they fixed the problem, so the boards you get shouldn't have any issues. Even on the ones we had with some mask issues we had no problems with bridging, but the ones you will get had no missing mask.

That cooler looks like it will work, though I can't tell for sure without knowing the dimension of the contact plate. For safety it should be about 35mm square.
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