Topic: The cure for Covid-19 is right here. - page 7. (Read 3111 times)

^^^ Lol.

The NIH finally approves Ivermectin for Covid, and doctors around the world are using HCQ successfully for Covid, and franky1 still tries to explain how Ivermectin and HCQ can't work for Covid.

Gotta love you, franky1, Lol .



EDIT: Say, franky1. Have you ever considered visiting with your shrink to see if he/she can cure you of your I-know Syndrome? Lol.

medications should be used for a purpose. not used by pillmill clinics as daily supplements.

ivermectin and HCQ turn off the immune response. which is bad when done at the wrong time
idiots like badecker continually want to pretend he cares about natural health and using the natural immune response. but is clearly then advertising people switch off their immune response. and then need to take even more meds/supplements to then counter the meds..

hospitals only want to use immune surpressents only when the immune response is in overdrive.

to me that shows hospitals are being more responsible than badeckers influencers advice.

in the forum there are many medical experts and experienced people but badecker seems to be someone and the only someone pushing a pharma profiteering scheme. while pretending he is opposed to pharma profiteering.

badecker. i know you flip flop and contradict yourself and even debunk yourself.
but do you actually look at what you write and check what you write or are you on some auto-pilot just repeating influencer scripts
i asked subtly this question to you many times before. but lets just get a straight answer from you.

do you even bother to think about what you write. or just repeat some other persons opinion thinking its then not our fault if the details are not right, because your not the original source, thus feeling you dont need to validate claims you repeat

The NIH approved Ivermectin for Covid. But the CDC agreed to take the wording off their site that says that vaccines don't cause autism. Then they did it, following through with their agreement they made in court, pushed by ICAN (https://www.icandecide.org/), because they couldn't come up with any proof that vaccines are safe regarding autism. Then the CDC reversed their stance, and put the wording up on their site again. ICAN is in the process of suing again.

The point? Will the NIH remove their Ivermectin approval for Covid?

EDIT: When will the NIH approve hydroxychloroquine? After all, HCQ is even more effective than Ivermectin.


'Miraculous' ivermectin approved for use in the US for the treatment of COVID-19

Clinical trial using a cocktail of low cost, readily available therapies (MATH+) given to various stage hospitalized Covid-19 patients.
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https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MATH-plus-Rationale-Journal-of-Intensive-Care-Medicine-Dec2020.pdf
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Page 14 look at the result outcomes

and since them 'in lab' reports. 7+ months ago . they actually done some in human trials. and guess what
swallowing medication does not work the same way as putting medication directly onto the targetted cells

again i said it before swallowing a pill that goes into your diestive system does not get to the lungs thte same way/have the same effects.

again if smart pillmill salemen were actually smart they would be advertising inhaler based meds

iver-hcq dont work as antivirals on lungs...the immuno surpressent parts of the medication work but the antiviral part did not.
they actually done tests on people and seen no noticable viral load changes between the trial and placebo/control group

they did however see the immune response symptoms change.
again surpressing the immune system can be dangerous if done at the wrong time.

so when badecker was talking about a friend of his that took him to a grocery store and showed him some amimal/vetinary medication that contains the substances was badecker advertising people should by and use them in home situation before things got serious. meaning at the incubation period. which is dangerous because you need your immune system at its fullest at that stage

the viral load changes show no noticable differences
the 'symtoms' improvement showed a change from 11 to 9 days. but what needs to be emphasised is that those symtoms were immuno reaction symtoms
in short they switched off/dampened the immune response

so the real funny thing is when badecker and tash were for 9 months saying natural immune response is all thats needed. strengthen immune response naturally to cure it... now they are advertising pill mill promoters that want to dampen the immune response via pharma products.

tash and badecker should really check what they are re-scripting to learn which people gain most from the scripts

Antiparasitic drug Ivermectin kills coronavirus in 48 hours
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200406/Antiparasitic-drug-Ivermectin-kills-coronavirus-in-48-hours.aspx

From June 02, 2020
Hydroxychloroquine for Coronavirus: The Urgent Need for a Moratorium on Prescriptions

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343%2820%2930445-9/fulltext
No, of course media says Trump telling everyone to drink bleach.....

You still don't get it, do you. It's kinda like this...

If a doctor grabbed a patient who was very sick with Covid/flu/pneumonia, and fed him proper amounts of HCQ + zinc, and then held his head under water until he drowned, is HCQ + zinc going to keep him alive? Intubation often kills people with Covid/flu/pneumonia symptoms. Killing them doesn't make them alive. Essentially nobody adds HCQ + zinc to intubated people.

In addition, why do you ignore all the studies and incidences that show that the vaccine is killing people, and harming others. After all, when you break down the literature that talks about the vaccines, you find that the talk is deceptive. What the talk really says is that the vaccines that seem to help 10% people in the studies, really harmed 15 times as many people in other ways. And the studies didn't even include more than a handful of the results compared with the total number who were studied.

The experience of many doctors is that HCQ + zinc benefits nearly 100% of users, without any side affect greater than those that have been there for the last 65 years that the FDA and WHO have been approving HCQ as the safest drug in the world.

Hey, but thanks again for advertising for HCQ + zinc as a method to cure Covid easily and cheaply. When are you going to start advertising for Ivermectin, Budesonide, MMS, and other things that work to heal people, as well?



EDIT: I apologize if the detail with which I write, is too much for you to handle mentally.

funny how your claims come from conspiracy and news MEDIA. and not from science reports.

science reports show that when they gave it to people with covid there was no difference in the viral load comparisons between ivermectin patients and non ivermectin patients in the minor/mild symptom groups
meaning it does not work on the lung infected virus.

however because invermectin is a antiparasite AND immunosurpressent. then yes if a virus, then triggers a full body immuno response OVERREACTION that gets severe,, then ivermectin can dampen the immuno response thats gone too far..

the issue though. is take it too early and your immune response needed to fight the virus wont kick in. meaning the virus incubation can be extended and cause more damage to your lungs

meaning if there were 3 people that were going to develop severe covid and die anyway.. if you go back in time.. to then treat them
if A took ivermectin like a supplement daily before even getting covid. he will still get covid. but would then not have the immuno symptoms. so the virus would just continue to incubate.
no fever. no loss of taste.smell
and finally A would get lack of breath, a nasty blood clotty thick mucus cough, and need hospitalisation. then be intubated and die

if B got covid and took ivermectin when he starts getting immuno reaction symptoms. those symptoms would cool off and maybe 50/50 he waited long enough for his immune system to have stopped the incubating virus.. he should get the fever and lose of smell. and tiredness and breathlesness so would need hospitalisation and intubation. but may live. but thats needed unknown timing for best time to take it.

if B got covid and then waited for immuno over reactions after the initial symptoms/hospitalisation then it can cool off the immuno symptoms. and again hopefully the underlying covid infection has passed the incubation period. so could survive

one thing is clear.. using it as a early preventer will not help. it will harm
timing it for the best time when the immuno reponses needs to be surpressed is critical.
you want your immune system to fight the virus. but then not go on to later fight you.

so dont think of it as a preventer. dont think of it as a cure. it has no function on the virus
dont use it too early because you need your immune system to function fully at the right time to fight covid
it can work on your immune response. but again for emphasis. dont take it randomly. because you need your immune system to fight the underlying virus. it should only be used when the lung damage is not the issue but your immune response crisis is the problem

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Literally just a couple of post up there is a whole punch o things listed plus there is Ivermectin and mms…..
The only once not able to deal with the situation at hand is the once to stupid and get all info from idiot box aka tel-lie-vision.

I don't think we have covid 19 cure yet because the virus is still here and the whole world is facing the reality thou vaccines are on the way but have not been tested yet.

next funny part is you been saying no one dies due to covid. .. so if we go with your fallacy we then have to ask why are you promoting a treatment for a non death illness, .. yep you hype up it reduces death but have been saying no one dies anyway.. so which flip flop script are you going with this week?

reality is that the death rate of those intubated has a normal varience of 18-26% risk of death rate. and HCQ has not reduced that to 0%
even the frequency of deaths of HQC+ other stuff is still in the same ranges.. so again no discernable difference.

if there was something that can get something from say over 20% to under 7% then that would be worthy.
but when something is 18-26% normally and still 18-26% with medications.. then the medications havnt really found anything significant ..

anyyway
if you think something that had a normal death rate of 18-26% in intubated patients. and still being 18-26% in intubated patients with medicine .. as showing the medicine is 'a cure'
then why do you then say something(vaccine) that can reduce your risk of even getting severe covid to under 5% as not a cure?

It's an article that presents a study, and the direction possible future studies could go. It has all kinds of backup links.

What's a backup link? When you go to the grocery store, the meat department, and you look at the sausage links, there are those that are out front, and those behind them. The ones in back are just as tasty as the ones right out front. They just happen to be in back.

thats not a study.
thats a article talking about possibility of FUTURE RANDOM TRIALS

here is the funny thing. you have acted irrational about treatments that had 3-9months worth of data. saying they are fake.
but when that article talks about a future randomised trial.. you treat that wish as if it was a trial result that proves something.

maybe try to read it.
maybe understand that its not actually a trial. nor atrial result. it is a wishful proposal of future trials.

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so i must ask if you hate treatments that have done extensive trials on thousands of people. why are you now trying to promote a treatment that has not had the same 3-9month of thousands of patients.

oh wait you read conspiracy sites designed to make pillmills money by suckering iiots into promoting their products.

All of a sudden hydroxychloroquine is a treatment for COVID, in new study
Fauci is a liar
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002934320306732

What are you trying to say? That 87-year-olds don't exist elsewhere without the medical? Lol. It's more like the medical is simply making up stories and using good timing... except in the hospitals where they die in droves.

fair play to him. he has found his own way to socially distance.. no family no friends no relationships.. well kind of extreme way to live just to avoid getting viruses and infections that spread.. but if it works for him. who am i to judge

.. im guessing your next point is that your basement dwelling non-hygiene life is your excuse..

well whatever works to keep you away from other people. go for it

Simone gold and many, many other people have observed Covid patients. Why and How? The world is full of Covid. The CPR tests say so, or don't you believe them suddenly? So, if you live in a big city, you have observed Covid patients walking around all over the place... even though nobody knew that most of them were Covid patients, and still don't if they haven'y gotten the PCR test.

Simone Gold might be selling HCQ, but if she is, that's great! Just like most doctors don't sell their drugs for nothing, she should get paid for her work.

Supplement sales are good practice when they works, like HCQ + zinc do.

You can find records of many peoples around the world, both from the past and present, who live near or over 100. I'm not talking about flukes. These are groups of people, or even whole nations in some cases. Take a look at Iran's Amou Haji - https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/world-news-how-long-can-you-go-without-a-shower-for-irans-amou-haji-its-67-years-counting/371253 ... 87 years old and hasn't bathed for 66 years. A fluke you say? Science can make all kinds of excuses about him, but they don't know. So, how is it that they suddenly are the ones who increased the age of people? If they did, it was by accident.

C'mon, franky1. Dig yourself in deeper. The Covid scam is falling apart.

Light therapy promises complete elimination of cancer cells with no side effects

simone gold and all your other friends have not observed covid patients. they just find a non life risking drug for pennies and sell it for dollars. this game of homeopathy and supplement sales are not good health practice. its capitalist enrichment practice.

as for live expectancy..
pre modern healthcare average lifespan was under 40 now with modern healthcare its over 80. which shows modern medicine does work.

Standard franky1 know-it-all time.

Has the medical even come close to finding a way/drug to let people leive 200 or 300 years? You can talk all you want about what works and doesn't work, but look at the facts listed in the links I showed.

Nobody needs science to show something. All you need is observation as to what happens when. Science wouldn't even be interested in parasite drugs being used on Covid and cancer if they hadn't accidentally seen the results, first. It isn't the scientific application of the drugs that produces the results. Rather, it's the application, period.

However, thanks for your silly blab. It's like advertising, even though you mean it to be adverse advertising. When people get out there and start looking at how easy it is for them to try self-cures, and that even the medical is interest in those cures (even though they say, don't self-cure), that we are all becoming a little bit like the doctors and researchers want to be, when we self-cure. So, thanks for the promotion.

Look at the bottom line. The medical can't get the job done because they are too slow, and don't work with the observations.