Topic: The difference between science and religion - page 2. (Read 6610 times)

You have a lot of faith to believe that Evolution is and that Big Bang might be, real... especially since there isn't and can't be any proof for either.

Thank you for your time. I enjoy talking to a religious zealot.

As you believe that facts like Evolution or scientific theories like the Big Bang are hypothesis, I'll stop arguing with you and follow this advice:

Don't argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Since you are the one who has judged the argument to be moronic, it is you who are the m****.

Trust only indicates a direction for your belief. Give your favorite scientist $10,000 in cash to hold for you. Do it without any kind of way you could get your money back if he were untrustworthy. Then we'll see where your trust is really based.

Some of the most popular scientific theories are ridiculous: Evolution and Big Bang for example. Yet some of the most trustworthy scientists believe in them while ignoring the scientific fact of the existence of God.

That's a moronic argument. I'm not relying on beliefs, but on trust. I've studied enough and tested enough myself so that I have trust that other people are doing proper science, also knowing the disastrous effects it would have in their reputation and how difficult is to con scientists.

Yes, I have tested many scientific claims of science, you don't need to be doing cutting-edge research for that. Yes, there's a degree of trust involved with the rest. No, it's not the same as having a religious belief.

Just accept religion is based on beliefs and science is not. It's ok to recognize how crazy religious people are, at least crazy in that aspect as many religious people are still scientifically minded in other aspects of their lives.

But you don't do the tests. Why not? Maybe you aren't interested in the science religion or any other religion. Or maybe you have some other religion that is more important to you than the science religion.

If you happen to be an integral part in some particular science testing, you might have reason to KNOW the particular science involved. If you aren't part of the test, the best you can do is believe, just like you might with any other religion.

In the beginning parts of the Book of Isaiah in the Bible, Isaiah talks about people making idols out of wood, stone, and metal. They use some of the wood, stone, and metal for the things of life... like wood for a camp fire, or stone to build a house, or metal for parts of chariot wheels. Then they go and use some of it for idols, false gods, false religions. Science is a religion.

Nowadays we use wood, stone, and metal for science idols... idols that we believe in without having done the experiments for ourselves, to see how they work. We simply believe, because we trust some scientist... just like we believe a prophet or priest in some religion.

Behind all the engineering that works is God Who set the physics of the universe in place. Since we don't know much about God just by using His science, we really need to examine the science of Who and What He is so that we can use His science more accurately.

So many ways to differentiate them but for me the major difference is that science deals with the observable (most of the time) while religion deals with unseen forces, spirits and stuff.

In the end for the layman it's pretty much hard to verify both's claims. Not everyone is savvy to scientific knowledge and with religion, well we can't really prove/disprove it.

How did you manage to write so much bs. You don't need to believe in anything scientists say because you can go and test it empirically.

^^^ Blind belief in what scientists say, is just the same as blind belief in religion. Notice that religion has books. Many of these books have real facts behind them.

The Bible is a record that goes back to the Beginning. Studying the people of Ancient Israel who wrote the Bible, shows that these people were meticulous and truthful in what they wrote.

Big Bang Theory destroys itself by stating that the past of the universe was radically different than the present. Yet the theory fails to acknowledge that such differences could easily extend to astronomy basics, time and mathematics, things that the theory is based on.

Since BB is scientifically unknown, and believing it is really faith in scientists, why not have faith in the eye-witness reports of the Bible, which are as credible as court reports?

^Science is not complete,new things are discovered everyday by scientists so what has been told by religion could be true but people should have to differenciate facts from blind beliefs.

There are many differences between science and religion Nothing can be falsified because both are part of our lives Science influences our daily lives and religion is the belief in supernatural power One cannot be mistaken for two things we can improve in life.

Except that few people KNOW if science talks about things that are mostly supported by experiments. Most people believe that other people have done the experiments.


One really good example is evolution. Evolution theory says that mutations happen randomly. But there are only two kinds of random:
1. Pure random, like real, spontaneous miracles;
2. Something that appears random because nobody knows how to follow the progreesion of things that made it happen this way.

If it's pure random, you might as well call it miracles = religion.

If it is standard random, it is only the fact that we don't know because we don't understand how or that it worked in any one instance... because we have never followed the progression.

So, nobody knows that there is any evolution. But science says that there is. So, science is treating evolution the way we treat religion... believing it without having any factual knowledge of it, because nobody has ever seen or recorded the progression of evolution.


Religion is first. Science simply follows in its footsteps.

Dont try to find connection between science and religion as unlike science , religion at times talks about supernatural stuff and things that dont make logical sense. Science talks about things that are mostly supported by experiments , facts and theories. Religion on other hand is about beliefs and at times stories to lead mankind.

like the data scientists who said trump can't win the election including obama.

Science has never been wrong. Scientists do make mistakes.

Science has been wrong in the past about hundreds of thousands of things that they validated in the past. A hundred years from now, everything that science holds dear today may be invalidated by then.

If science is invalidating religion now, it is only showing another thing it is invalidation itself in. See my previous post in this thread.

Science wouldn't exist without religion and the things of religion. Scientists research science because they have religion backing them, and because science is part of their religion.

In the definition of religion at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t, there are these two parts among others:
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:

Certainly scientists practice these two things in their science operations. In fact, they practice them more rigorously and accurately that formal religions practice their operations.

Religion exists through everything that people do.

I wonder why you went to school to study ( things scientists have spent years researching )?

- Why are you driving instead of walking?

- Why do you fly by plane instead of walking?

Science improves our life every day and there is no denying the good that science has brought us. But on the other hand (religion) there is no proof of anything. on the contrary, Every day different religions appear and guess what they have in common? The priest become very rich thanks to believers' money

Religion was around way longer than science. You are doing a trick-twist. Science validates religion that religion is right. It works like this. Back in the 1950s...

Three guys individually stopped at the same hotel at the same time. Each asked for a room. The clerk behind the desk told them that there was only one room left. They could draw straws for it, or they could share it. The guys decided to share it.

The clerk charged them $30 for the room - $10 apiece. They went up to their room.

Later, the clerk felt guilty for charging the guys so much, so he gave the bellboy $5 to return to the guys as a refund. On the way up in the elevator, the bellboy couldn't figure out how to divide $5 evenly between 3 guys, so, he decided to keep $2 as a tip.

The bellboy gave each of the guys a dollar back. This means that each guy paid only $9. Three times nine is $27, plus the $2 that the bellboy kept makes $29. What happened to the 30th dollar?


Science validates that religion is right. You simply twist the final answer.

Notice that people believe stuff that is only called science, but isn't really science. The article, below, shows this. But the truth is greater. People often believe the stuff of science theory to be real when everybody knows that it can be changed on a moment's notice with new science findings. Believing science theory - having faith that it is true - while part of science, is also part of religion. Note the transcript of the video at the linked site.


Episode 353 - The Crisis of Science

Science and religion is somehow connected to one onther but at so many point they have differences.  One is in science to see it to believe.  As long as they didnt see it they do not believe on it.  While in religion even it cannot seen by our naked eyes we still believe on such thing.