The difference between science and religion - page 4.

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Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.

We have multiple religions all around the world which proves many countries are not accepting other religious people, Is that their religion taught them?

Anyone who really loves God will treat any other human equally!

However, treating other humans as equals should be in the fact that they are human. Other than that, treat them according to what they do.

Everybody knows that if science actually saves, that it is only a tiny bit, and for a very short extended time-period. But right religion saves eternally.

This shows that believers in science have the wrong religion.

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So in your eyes Christianity is not a good religion. The bible don't teach that at all. It even gives guidelines on how often and how hard you can beat your slaves.
(And According to the bible, holding slaves are not wrong)

One of the reasons why Christianity is a good religion is, it attempts to get rid of slavery in a right way. What is the right way? It is by allowing people to freely become slaves if they want, and then to limit how harshly masters treat slaves. In other words, freedom yet protection.

Jesus said, "By their fruits you will know them." So, you treat bad people with love, but you be careful to not be hurt by them at the same time. Your evil protests against the Bible show that you are dangerous. Yet, out of love I am trying to show you the right path. At the same time, I don't open myself up to you in ways that you can hurt me with.

Some people use science for what it is meant to be used for... the technical aspects that step in the direction of engineering. Others - more or less useless scientists - try to predict all kinds of things from science, usually things that are way too complex for simple scientist science to predict. They are the ones who turn science into a religion, and they want to make themselves the high priests of their religion.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 19, 2019, 01:21:26 PM

Quote from: semobo on December 19, 2019, 12:54:01 PM

Quote from: Negotiation on December 19, 2019, 12:28:49 PM

Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.

We have multiple religions all around the world which proves many countries are not accepting other religious people, Is that their religion taught them?

Anyone who really loves God will treat any other human equally!

However, treating other humans as equals should be in the fact that they are human. Other than that, treat them according to what they do.

Everybody knows that if science actually saves, that it is only a tiny bit, and for a very short extended time-period. But right religion saves eternally.

This shows that believers in science have the wrong religion.

Cool

So in your eyes Christianity is not a good religion. The bible don't teach that at all. It even gives guidelines on how often and how hard you can beat your slaves.
(And According to the bible, holding slaves are not wrong)

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Quote from: BADecker on December 19, 2019, 01:21:26 PM

Quote from: semobo on December 19, 2019, 12:54:01 PM

Quote from: Negotiation on December 19, 2019, 12:28:49 PM

Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.

We have multiple religions all around the world which proves many countries are not accepting other religious people, Is that their religion taught them?

Anyone who really loves God will treat any other human equally!

However, treating other humans as equals should be in the fact that they are human. Other than that, treat them according to what they do.

Everybody knows that if science actually saves, that it is only a tiny bit, and for a very short extended time-period. But right religion saves eternally.

This shows that believers in science have the wrong religion.

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When we don't know anything about the person who wearing hijabs we still consider them as someone like terrorist. Roll Eyes

Science helps us to what to do's and don't,maybe the same thing was done by religions before centuries without knowing actual reasons.

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Quote from: semobo on December 19, 2019, 12:54:01 PM

Quote from: Negotiation on December 19, 2019, 12:28:49 PM

Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.

We have multiple religions all around the world which proves many countries are not accepting other religious people, Is that their religion taught them?

Anyone who really loves God will treat any other human equally!

However, treating other humans as equals should be in the fact that they are human. Other than that, treat them according to what they do.

Everybody knows that if science actually saves, that it is only a tiny bit, and for a very short extended time-period. But right religion saves eternally.

This shows that believers in science have the wrong religion.

Cool

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Quote from: Negotiation on December 19, 2019, 12:28:49 PM

Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.

We have multiple religions all around the world which proves many countries are not accepting other religious people, Is that their religion taught them?

Anyone who really loves God will treat any other human equally!

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Religion is the belief in supernatural power and science is the one that controls the course of our modern technology and our daily life. An external one and an attorney Science may change over time but religion is not reversible. Science helps us in social development and religion helps to solve social problems on the way to society Religion sustains the existence of our society.

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Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

Science is based on belief that the evidence is showing us a fact, or not.

True religion is based on eye witness events written down.

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Still 90% of this world is unexplored so we can't trust the things because its not yet proven by science. Cheesy

But everything has science even it was not discovered yet but soon it will be prove by science. Science can prove about physical that can touch but about the past and the happenings that would happen it would never determined because a science was only a proven from the world that only they found.

It means we are not most developed species right? we have things which is not known to our knowledge in our daily life.

For example science has no answer for these three small questions of our daily life.

1.Why we dream?
2.Why ice is slippery?
3.How bicycle works?

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Quote from: Moloch on August 21, 2018, 10:18:05 AM

If you took all the religions in the world and destroyed them, in 1000 years there would be entirely new religions, completely different from the old religions...

If you took all the science in the world and destroyed it... in 1000 years there would be EXACTLY THE SAME SCIENCE

Mathematics is not something invented by humans, it is discovered by humans... mathematics is the same in any language, on any planet... 1 + 1 = 2 is a provable concept and does not change based on societal norms or which deities they currently worship

Newton and Leibniz are credited with the co-discovery of calculus... they did not invent it, they both discovered it at the same time... math/science is universal, religion is not

Most of the things in religion can be explained by science but science cannot be explained by religion. As a graduate in engineering, I feel science backs everything that exists in universe & even form bases for any religion. Science is supported by facts, while religion is formed by faiths and beliefs ( Which at times are very subjective).

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Quote from: semobo on December 09, 2019, 10:23:49 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 08, 2019, 04:36:19 PM

Quote from: Anonaneadone on December 08, 2019, 12:19:08 PM

Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

Science is based on belief that the evidence is showing us a fact, or not.

True religion is based on eye witness events written down.

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Still 90% of this world is unexplored so we can't trust the things because its not yet proven by science. Cheesy

But everything has science even it was not discovered yet but soon it will be prove by science. Science can prove about physical that can touch but about the past and the happenings that would happen it would never determined because a science was only a proven from the world that only they found.

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A collection of facts and annecdots doesnt make a science. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BADecker on December 08, 2019, 04:36:19 PM

Quote from: Anonaneadone on December 08, 2019, 12:19:08 PM

Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

Science is based on belief that the evidence is showing us a fact, or not.

True religion is based on eye witness events written down.

Cool

Still 90% of this world is unexplored so we can't trust the things because its not yet proven by science. Cheesy

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Quote from: Anonaneadone on December 08, 2019, 12:19:08 PM

Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

Science is based on belief that the evidence is showing us a fact, or not.

True religion is based on eye witness events written down.

Cool

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Science is base on fact and there's such a evidence to prove that this thing happens or not. Religion is base only in our hearts in our beliefs

Science is like a law. Religion is like a theory for me. Even though there are theories in science. We must both balance the belief to become a good person and the truth so you can live normally. Balance both science and religion.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 22, 2018, 12:06:37 PM

1 + 1 = 2 is absolutely provable, and has been done so many times. Silly word play about things being different doesn't change a mathematical proof.

Perhaps you should take your own advice to learn about things before talking about them.

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Yes.

1 + 1 = 2 is not provable. After all, any "1" that you try to add to another "1" is slightly different than the other "1." The difference might only be in the location in space that it exists. Or it might be that the first "1" came first in the equation, but the second "1" came second. This makes them different... like trying to add apples and oranges.

So, 1 + 1 always equals 1 + 1. They never equal 2.

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Even in the pure logical/ abstract sense, even basic integer arithmetic has been shown to be unproveable formally.

The first incompleteness theorem states that no consistent system of axioms whose theorems can be listed by an effective procedure (i.e., an algorithm) is capable of proving all truths about the arithmetic of natural numbers. For any such consistent formal system, there will always be statements about natural numbers that are true, but that are unprovable within the system. The second incompleteness theorem, an extension of the first, shows that the system cannot demonstrate its own consistency.

After numbers are an abstraction that comes along with the idea of atom or monad but we still have to find a physical atom or monad that fit the abstraction.

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Quote from: suresh sanjaya on January 04, 2019, 10:49:05 PM

Everything in the universe can be gather to the science.as i think religion also one kind of a science.unfortunately when we say science we think only about provable things.no unprovable things also have science.so we can't rejected any things "this can't prove so this is not science".religion also science everything can't prove but humans not ask to prove them,they believe it.it not harmful to anyone.humans believe religion,it not harmful to anyone and make a better world so for what try to prove everythings?there are no differents in between science and religion.

Also you can have different meaning to "proof", you can have formal proof like in logic, or experimental proof.

But experimental proof is still poor man science, as shown by masters of rationalism like socrate or descartes.

Science is more about formal proof and axiomatic reasonning, and even this is brittle viewed in the lense of godbel theorem.

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Quote from: IadixDev on December 07, 2019, 01:49:14 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 22, 2018, 12:06:37 PM

1 + 1 = 2 is absolutely provable, and has been done so many times. Silly word play about things being different doesn't change a mathematical proof.

Perhaps you should take your own advice to learn about things before talking about them.

Try godbel theorem Grin

Yes.

1 + 1 = 2 is not provable. After all, any "1" that you try to add to another "1" is slightly different than the other "1." The difference might only be in the location in space that it exists. Or it might be that the first "1" came first in the equation, but the second "1" came second. This makes them different... like trying to add apples and oranges.

So, 1 + 1 always equals 1 + 1. They never equal 2.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 22, 2018, 12:06:37 PM

1 + 1 = 2 is absolutely provable, and has been done so many times. Silly word play about things being different doesn't change a mathematical proof.

Perhaps you should take your own advice to learn about things before talking about them.

Try godel theorem Grin

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Quote from: Martha_Ferris on August 22, 2018, 01:39:46 AM

You forget so easily how much religion has added to the world too. In fact, the truth is I doubt there will be any science today without religion. Most of the knowledge we have come to be exposed to now was sponsored by institutions religion set up. So, stop throwing baseless claims around. Some of what is called science today will not be around in some years. The likes of the evolution theory and Big Bang theory are concepts I'm certain will die out. Christianity for example has lasted more than 2000 years. On what basis then do you say that it won't be around in the next 1000 years?

Religion hasn't contributed to the world at all in fact it made people dumb and many times put the progress of the modern era into halt. Religions is the collection of lies we're many of its verses are a contradiction of each other and even depicts murder and shows dictatorship of god and how god allows murder, rape, genocide, racism and incest.
Science has made the world for the better and save countless lives by researching and creating medicine to counter diseases like pneumonia and prevent newborns into getting caught with viruses that makes a baby abnormal.

Wow! You just described faith in the religion of modern medicine!

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Quote from: Martha_Ferris on August 22, 2018, 01:39:46 AM

You forget so easily how much religion has added to the world too. In fact, the truth is I doubt there will be any science today without religion. Most of the knowledge we have come to be exposed to now was sponsored by institutions religion set up. So, stop throwing baseless claims around. Some of what is called science today will not be around in some years. The likes of the evolution theory and Big Bang theory are concepts I'm certain will die out. Christianity for example has lasted more than 2000 years. On what basis then do you say that it won't be around in the next 1000 years?

Religion hasn't contributed to the world at all in fact it made people dumb and many times put the progress of the modern era into halt. Religions is the collection of lies we're many of its verses are a contradiction of each other and even depicts murder and shows dictatorship of god and how god allows murder, rape, genocide, racism and incest.
Science has made the world for the better and save countless lives by researching and creating medicine to counter diseases like pneumonia and prevent newborns into getting caught with viruses that makes a baby abnormal.

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